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drdgreenlove
Footballguy
Hi DerangedHermit
Unconfirmed rumors that McNabb will be dealt to the Rams for their 2nd round pick... any news for us?
thanks
Unconfirmed rumors that McNabb will be dealt to the Rams for their 2nd round pick... any news for us?
thanks
bighandsray
Footballguy
A lot of trade chatter from the Owners Meeting about QB trades so here is my prediction/plan for the next month.
Trade McNabb to San Fran. Seems like the best fit of any team. 5 would likely sign extension with up and coming team like SF.
Deal goes: SF gets McNabb and 1.24 Eagles get 1.17 and 2.17.
Eagles draft Earl Thomas 1.17-Safety problem solved for 10yrs.
pick 2.17 look at DE Wooten or Griffen or CB. Looks like Sheldon is on the way out.
pick 2.24 best LB maybe AJ Edds or DE/CB.
pick 3.5 OL or QB
pick 3.24 OL or QB
DH, what's your boy saying?
Trade McNabb to San Fran. Seems like the best fit of any team. 5 would likely sign extension with up and coming team like SF.
Deal goes: SF gets McNabb and 1.24 Eagles get 1.17 and 2.17.
Eagles draft Earl Thomas 1.17-Safety problem solved for 10yrs.
pick 2.17 look at DE Wooten or Griffen or CB. Looks like Sheldon is on the way out.
pick 2.24 best LB maybe AJ Edds or DE/CB.
pick 3.5 OL or QB
pick 3.24 OL or QB
DH, what's your boy saying?
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I haven't spoken to him far a while, but if you read my comments a few pages back, that's what they were offered by SEA. I personally think it would take another pick as 'sweetner' to get a deal done.Edit: Here's what I wrote a few weeks ago
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
Appreciate the update but there are reports floating around they have lowered their demands. A second round pick may get it done.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Again, the 'sweetner' comment was my opinion only as I haven't spoken to my buddy in a while. You may well be right.Amused to Death said:
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I've been trying to get a hold of my buddy, but he isn't answering. Nothing via text eoither. Something has to be going down, he usually at least text's me something.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
He just texted me: "You'll hear something soon....stay tuned."
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Not from Sal Pal evidently, he knows nothing.
Ive known for a week this was coming, but DMAC is all but gone. But I'm not telling anything that hasn't been known by most in here anyway since lots of us have reliable contacts with the team. I am excited as a fan of KK that we get to see what this young offense gets to do now, but it sure makes me struggle having to wish well for the Eagles. DANG!
There will be news shortly on this.
There will be news shortly on this.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
If it's really Kolb's time I'll root for him like a maniac. But I've got massive doubts that he'll ever be someone that takes us far. I hope he proves me wrong in a hurry.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Rumor is the 33rd pick and Atogwe for McNabb. That sounds good to me.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
What else could you want here?
TCFF
Footballguy
Wow I hope this is true.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
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x2!!! PICKLE!!!
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Talks seem done tonight. I talked to my buddy and he is almost certain McNabb is gone before the draft. He can't get into more specifics but he really thinks 5 is all but gone. As I've said before, he is primarily on the draft side of things (you'll remember I told you guys last year they were targeting Maclin), and they're starting to look at guys 'that might be available in the early second'.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I don't believe any rumors until they happen because there are just to many this time of year and I'm sure there will be atleast 10 McNabb ones before he is dealt but if that was the trade why don't you like it. I'm a McNabb guy but I think 33 alone is a good trade for a 34 year old Qb on his last year let alone getting a good FS back.
bighandsray
Footballguy
CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT
My take is that the Rams possibly are not interested in McNabb. This rumor is being floated to up the price. Arizona and San Fran both seem to have interest. So Reid calls Spags and says do me a favor and go along with me on this, after all we did hand you Brandon Gibson. So now Az and SF are scared that who ever gets McNabb is favored for the division, even if the Rams get him. So AZ and SF up the price. All of this of course is the best possible situation for the Eagles, as they would probably end up with one of San Fran's 1st rounders.
My take is that the Rams possibly are not interested in McNabb. This rumor is being floated to up the price. Arizona and San Fran both seem to have interest. So Reid calls Spags and says do me a favor and go along with me on this, after all we did hand you Brandon Gibson. So now Az and SF are scared that who ever gets McNabb is favored for the division, even if the Rams get him. So AZ and SF up the price. All of this of course is the best possible situation for the Eagles, as they would probably end up with one of San Fran's 1st rounders.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Why would Spags want to pi$$ off his Safety?
bighandsray
Footballguy
Did Spags put his safeties name out there?My theory is more of wild train of thought that popped into my head, that I thought would make for interesting conversation. Nothing more.
Zoomanji
Footballguy
FantasyMan
Footballguy
Really?
Jason Wood
Zoo York
BTW...if Atogwe was such a stud, why did the Rams -- a team starved for defense -- place the LOWEST tender on him? In an uncapped year with very few marquee free agents, Atogwe should've been flooded with offers by teams because the compensation would've been minimal. Yet, here he is, unsigned.
Atogwe hasnt signed his tender and thus cannot be traded.
JaxBill
Footballguy
According to the following blog entry, the next level up would have required 110% increase over 2009 money and he made 6.3 Mil last year. There is also conjecture that it would have required the Rams to guarantee that money.http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/...f-atogwe-tender
Atogwe might not be worth THAT kind of money but he's a definite upgrade over any of the Eagles' current safeties.
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
from espn_nfcwest
Eagles have 395 draft-value points in third round alone. Bears have 352 in entire draft. Bears' entire draft worth same as 55th pick.
Eagles have 395 draft-value points in third round alone. Bears have 352 in entire draft. Bears' entire draft worth same as 55th pick.
Slider
Footballguy
What's he gonna do? Retire?
dhockster
Footballguy
No, but if BUF and OAK know they can't sign McNabb to an extension before they trade for him, then they won't trade for him.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
No, but teams aren't going to give up what the Eagles are asking for to rent a guy for a year. McNabb, even if Buffalo or Oakland called his bluff, would absolutely have a host of teams ready to sign him as a free agent in 2011.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Wouldn't this host of teams pretty much be the same teams that are looking to trade for a QB now? Let's be honest, McNabb will sign with what ever team he is traded to if the money is right. He played his college ball in the Buffalo area and is pretty much a legend up there. If any town is going to embrace and love McNabb its going to be Buffalo.Jason Wood said:
Wouldn't this host of teams pretty much be the same teams that are looking to trade for a QB now? Let's be honest, McNabb will sign with what ever team he is traded to if the money is right. He played his college ball in the Buffalo area and is pretty much a legend up there. If any town is going to embrace and love McNabb its going to be Buffalo.
I said all along Buffalo seems to make the most sense he played near there and they need attendance maybe with a good Qb they wont have to play in Canada plus I don't think they are bad as others do. Same thing with the Jags though they need attendance help and maybe McNabb would help with that and they wouldn't have to draft Tebow.
I said all along Buffalo seems to make the most sense he played near there and they need attendance maybe with a good Qb they wont have to play in Canada plus I don't think they are bad as others do. Same thing with the Jags though they need attendance help and maybe McNabb would help with that and they wouldn't have to draft Tebow.
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
He's from Chicago, works out in ARI in the offseason, and went to college at Syracuse. (Go Orange!) If I were in 5's camp, I would not be thrilled about OAK. I could live with BUF or JAX but neither are ideal. Unless he brings up the $$$/extension and forces their hand, the Eagles may not get value and PHI just ends up keeping him. Moreover, if they find a partner, he may not work out an extension and again, PHI ends up keeping him. I think the best thing for him and PHI is to turn the page. However, the situation is unique in that you have a rock-solid starting QB in his prime years. He has a 4-year window, IMO, and given the dearth at QB today, teams will have to OVERPAY the Eagles.
gonzobill5
Footballguy
Probably true about the willingness to part with a high draft pick for a rental player - but I'd have to believe that a team (like Ariz or Jax) is better off renting McNabb for a year than throwing a 3 or 4 year contract extension with a big signing bonus his way. I think there is very little chance McNabb is still an effective QB three years down the road, and disagree that there would be a host of teams lining up for him as a free agent in 2011, assuming he'll want to be paid like a top tier starter with a multi-year deal. A few people have suggested that QBs peak in their 30s...most data I've seen suggests that QBs peak 26-28. I've seen no reason to believe that McNabb is any different.Jason Wood said:
JaxBill
Footballguy
A bunch of JagGator fans would be hugely upset if trading for McNabb meant no Tebow. In their eyes, 15 > 5.Plus, McNabb hasn't exactly played well in his visits to Jacksonville.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Living in Orlando, I agree that a majority of Jags fans would rather have Tebow. Why not both? Tebow needs 2-3 years (IMO) to develop. McNabb carries them until them. And a great point about McNabb's history @ JAX. Jacksonville's heat/humidity doesn't seem to jive with 5. I remember a game there in 2003 where he carried the team on his back all day long, and by the 4th was gassed and upchucking under center. And, of course, the super bowl was there also!
gonzobill5
Footballguy
I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
He'll turn 34 this year, but I can't say you're not right that 34 is probably not "in his prime." Consider my comment a bit of an overstatement. But he still would be viewed as someone capable of playing 3+ years for a team; and would want a contract that reflects that IMHO.
Gold Standard
Footballguy
I'm just curious, if the team doesn't want to unload him, then why not re-up him with a new contract instead of looking to trade him? Since we all know the answer to that, what the hell is the point of another year of McNabb with an ending contract, when you have a 25 year old groomed for this system. For the life of me I can't understand any Eagle fan that doesn't want to turn the page on the McNabb era. For all the great things he did for the franchise, he never took us to the promised land, and I personally would rather puke in my mouth than see another lame 9-7, 10-6 playoff run with him under center. The defense is at least two years away from being taken seriously.He's a goner, no way this organization wants him, and no one is telling me there's no market out there for a QB of his caliber. Wether this Ram talk is a smokescreen, he's not making it to Lehigh, and I couldn't be more thrilled.Which is why he's not getting traded. BTW, for every "insider" on either side of this debate, there's another "insider" who says differently. Len P from ESPN in his latest column (I would quote it but it's Insider so I don't feel right about that) says that a very high ranking senior official within the Eagles organization said that all the trade talk is noise and said that "the odds are pretty good he isn't going anywhere, it's just all talk."You guys who think the Eagles are going to get a 1st or even a 2nd round pick for McNabb are nuts.Too much WIP melts your brains
CentralPA
Footballguy
He's very much in the twilight of his prime but he is still a very good QB. Any team that picks him up that has at least a few offense weapons he will make better. A fresh start for both sides I think would end up being benefical but it's a risk for the Eagles. They know what they have in McNabb and kolb may fall flat on his face. just really don't know what to think about all of this now.
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