*** Official 2010 Philadelphia Eagles Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[unckeyherb]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

 

[vinwinephans]

I'm just curious, if the team doesn't want to unload him, then why not re-up him with a new contract instead of looking to trade him?

IMO, by having all three going into the last year of their contracts, the Eagles gain leverage by demanding top notch price for any of them. Say they want to keep McNabb, if the extend him now, it damages their leverage for moving Kolb.Now they can take the position of playing one against the other to drive the proce up for both. They can tell teams we will take the best deal for either QB and move on with the one we don't trade.So the STL rumor could be real.Or the STL rumor could be false - floated to drive up the price others are offering for McNabb or Kolb.Just my take on it...I won't believe any of it until it happens. This situation is so fluid right now. What I do think is the Eagles are pressing to get whatever move they make done soon, which is why Reid made his comment when he did (right before owners' meeting) and the info is leaking out much more quickly now.By the end of the day, I wouldn't be surprised if the trade is done or another rumor with another team comes out... It's fun to watch it all unfold though.

 

[GoBirds]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

I think it was Kuesillias reading his stat rankings on the radio last night and most were mid-teens among starting QB's. Middle of the pack.

 

[B. Nugget]

But I thought McNabb reportedly won't sign extensions with BUF and OAK.

What's he gonna do? Retire?

It may all be just rumor and fade away like the Seattle stuff a few weeks ago, but I can't help but think that this makes a ton of sense for the Rams. So you give up the #33 pick and what looks to be an over-paid Safety for a older QB...so what? IF you draft Bradford, you already know you can't protect him and you are taking a huge risk putting him behind that OL with his shoulder injury...and tying up huge money.You have a ton of money invested in a RB that gets hit as soon as he takes a hand-off and speed WRs that are basically useless if the QB is on his back within 2 seconds of taking the snap.Why not roll the dice on a vet like McNabb with a contract full of incentives and then pick and choose a future QB later in this draft or in next year's draft to develop. To me, this is like paying for Matt Holiday because it protects your investment in Pujols. Without protection, they can pitch around him and take away his effectiveness. If you don't protect your investment in SJAX, you are just inviting teams to stack the box and he ends up with 1,200 yards and 4 TDs...and your team suffers from lack of redzone opportunities...again.

 

[gonzobill5]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

It's easy to point to '04 as his peak season since that was the year he had the most to work with. I would argue that he was having his best season in 2006 prior to the injury. But, I'd say his prime was somewhere in 2002 - 2006. He's been a good QB the last three years too, no denying that. However, determining if a player is "in his prime" in year N is not done by looking at how he did in year N-1. I'm saying he's on a downward trajectory, and I don't think that is debatable. Around this age, QBs typically experience a big drop in TD percentage and increase in INT percentage. I think we've seen that already from McNabb. His AY/A was strong for him in 2009 after two less than stellar years - but I'd be weary about the effects that DJax had on that.

 

[unckeyherb]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

It's easy to point to '04 as his peak season since that was the year he had the most to work with. I would argue that he was having his best season in 2006 prior to the injury. But, I'd say his prime was somewhere in 2002 - 2006. He's been a good QB the last three years too, no denying that. However, determining if a player is "in his prime" in year N is not done by looking at how he did in year N-1. I'm saying he's on a downward trajectory, and I don't think that is debatable. Around this age, QBs typically experience a big drop in TD percentage and increase in INT percentage. I think we've seen that already from McNabb. His AY/A was strong for him in 2009 after two less than stellar years - but I'd be weary about the effects that DJax had on that.

again, I would disagree here. In his last three years he has been above his career averages in completion percentage (while attempting just under 1500 passes in 44 games), yardage, y/a, TD's and passer rating. Hit ints seem to be in line with his average. What I will give you is that his legs have dropped out, posting the least amount of rushes, yards, ypc and TDs per year each of the last three years.

 

[JetMaxx]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

I think it was Kuesillias reading his stat rankings on the radio last night and most were mid-teens among starting QB's. Middle of the pack.

Fascinating how the McNabb lovers never address this point and the fact that he chokes in the big moments and that he's a poor leader. And yes, he is past his prime. Yet they want to hold onto him like he's gold.

 

[Gold Standard]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

I think it was Kuesillias reading his stat rankings on the radio last night and most were mid-teens among starting QB's. Middle of the pack.

Fascinating how the McNabb lovers never address this point and the fact that he chokes in the big moments and that he's a poor leader. And yes, he is past his prime. Yet they want to hold onto him like he's gold.

He's an atrocious leader!!! When my quaterback upon getting waxed by Dallas in consecutive weeks takes responsibility by throwing our young recievers under a bus, doing a flat out embarassing air guitar routine before the biggest game of the year as to put up some facade that he's loose and ready to go, and then upon getting trounced, tells the press "Well I'm sorry we didn't go 16-0" after 10 years of falling short, you have to be watching something else to want him coming back for the 2010 season as a lame duck QB. Just insane to me.The guy was a great QB here, but even as a lifelong New Yorker, the reason why this guy has drawn the ire from easily 75% of this fanbase is becasue he never brought us a ring. For him not to being home a ring from those early 2000 teams is literally a shame. Now it's time to turn the keys over to someone else.

 

[unckeyherb]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

I think it was Kuesillias reading his stat rankings on the radio last night and most were mid-teens among starting QB's. Middle of the pack.

Fascinating how the McNabb lovers never address this point and the fact that he chokes in the big moments and that he's a poor leader. And yes, he is past his prime. Yet they want to hold onto him like he's gold.

What point needs to be addressed? Give some actual stats, not a summary of something that a Mike Greenburg fill-in said. I pointed to the fact that from a stats standpoint he has improved over the years with 2004 being an outlier of his best-possible with uber-stud personel around him. You say "yes, he is past his prime"; what leads you to say that? The fact that he threw for more yards last year than ever before? That he threw for the third most yards and the second best rating this year? That the team is still making the playoffs year after year? Wait, I know, they don't go all the way and win a championship right? And I assume that thats all on him?Your opinion that he chokes in big moments? I'll give you the super bowl (and I assume you consider Peyton Manning a choker as well?) When else has he, Donovan McNabb been solely responsible for a playoff loss? He's a poor leader? Seriously? For every hugh douglas that says hes not a leader, there is a Chad Lewis that says he is THE leader and the heart of the team.

Whatever. Its not really relevant what I think about him, because I have no impact on anything. I'll be sad to see him go, but I know that from a team perspective, and getting good value for what you have, he needs to go. I am not holding onto him like he's gold as you and Mikey miss seem to like saying.

 

[gonzobill5]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

It's easy to point to '04 as his peak season since that was the year he had the most to work with. I would argue that he was having his best season in 2006 prior to the injury. But, I'd say his prime was somewhere in 2002 - 2006. He's been a good QB the last three years too, no denying that. However, determining if a player is "in his prime" in year N is not done by looking at how he did in year N-1. I'm saying he's on a downward trajectory, and I don't think that is debatable. Around this age, QBs typically experience a big drop in TD percentage and increase in INT percentage. I think we've seen that already from McNabb. His AY/A was strong for him in 2009 after two less than stellar years - but I'd be weary about the effects that DJax had on that.

again, I would disagree here. In his last three years he has been above his career averages in completion percentage (while attempting just under 1500 passes in 44 games), yardage, y/a, TD's and passer rating. Hit ints seem to be in line with his average. What I will give you is that his legs have dropped out, posting the least amount of rushes, yards, ypc and TDs per year each of the last three years.

It looks like you are using his year end stats for those conclusions. Over the last three years, he's played nearly a full slate each year (14.67 games). Over the course of the rest of his career he's only averaged 13. Of course you won't see that his TDs have dropped. His TD% the last three years is 4.3%, it was 5.7% during 2004-2006. Or that his INTs has been heading up for two years in a row (though it is still solid). And I don't think that completion percentage is a stat that is going to drop significantly as a QB ages past his prime until he's WAY past his prime. His AY/A were up last year after being down significantly the previous two. If you think that is a sign that he is still going as strong as ever, ok, I'll accept that. However, I tend to think that number is a bit inflated by all of the big plays.

 

[Lehigh98]

He just texted me: "You'll hear something soon....stay tuned."

Ive known for a week this was coming, but DMAC is all but gone. There will be news shortly on this.

If the Rams rumors were just that, why would your sources tell you something was happening soon?Were they fooled too? Or spreading the rumor? Or something else entirely?

 

[delusional]

well time to buy a new jersey of whatever team 5 goes to and lol @ eagles

hell i might just get a giants or dallas jersey lol

 

[Lehigh98]

well time to buy a new jersey of whatever team 5 goes to and lol @ eagleshell i might just get a giants or dallas jersey lol

lol

 

[B. Nugget]

well time to buy a new jersey of whatever team 5 goes to and lol @ eagleshell i might just get a giants or dallas jersey lol

lol

The shark move is to buy low on the #4 jersey before they trade McNabb and make Kolb the starter.

 

[delusional]

whats their next move? marty m the head coach in waiting?

 

[GoBirds]

McNabb is still in his prime. He understands that he has a ton of leverage with any team wanting to trade for him, and this will be the last time in his career he has that kind of leverage. I'm sure if the money was huge, he would find a number of teams "attractive" but I also think he very much wants to play for a team he thinks can win now.

I'll say it again, his prime was 4 years ago. He'll turn 35 this year, no way is he still in his prime.

In only 14 games he threw for 3,500 yards (3rd best of his career) for an average of 8 yards per pass (also 3rd best of his career) at 60% completion rate (3rd best), 22 TD's (4th) to 10 Ints (5th Worst of his career) for a passer rating of 92.9 (3rd). keep in mind that statistically speaking, the only years he was better than last year were 2004 (with TO) and the year before last. I assume that the prime year you are reffering to was '04 and you'd be correct. That was the only year he had a QB rating over 100 and the only year he thre for 30+ TDs. He also had one of the greatest WR's in HIS prime to go along for the ride.

Since then he crapped out in 05 due to injury (playing in only 9 games), '06 was not much better (played in 10 games), '07-'09 he has improved across the board.

I'd be hesitant to say that he is not in the prime of his abilities as a QB.

I think it was Kuesillias reading his stat rankings on the radio last night and most were mid-teens among starting QB's. Middle of the pack.

Fascinating how the McNabb lovers never address this point and the fact that he chokes in the big moments and that he's a poor leader. And yes, he is past his prime. Yet they want to hold onto him like he's gold.

While I agree it might be his time, when you look at where the franchise was before him you can't really hate on what the guy has done but so much if you were here through the Richie Kotite era. Sorry for even mentioning his name.

 

[Nagle2998]

Worse case with McNabb would be if he got traded somewhere for one year then in free agency signed with Washington while they groomed a Qb.

 

[scratcher]

The latest reports I'm getting are that the Raiders are the frontrunners. ProFootballTalk is saying the same thing. The Jaguars remain interested, but it seems as if the Raiders are being more aggressive with their offer. I don't have any firm details, but the 8th overall pick in the 2010 draft is being talked about. Jacksonville may try to come up with a counter-offer, but it doesn't seem like they want to get into a bidding war. The Buffalo Bills were the primary focus in yesterday's talks. I don't know what is happening with them. Maybe McNabb refused to sign an extension. Maybe the Bills and Eagles couldn't agree on compensation. I don't have good info on this angle right now. Don't count Buffalo out, but they are no longer in the lead. As for Donovan going to the Raiders...this move makes some sense when you think about it. They have a pair of talented RBs in Darren McFadden and Michael Bush. They have a good TE in Zach Miller. They have 3 talented young WRs - Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy, and Darrius Heyward-Bey. DHB could turn out to be a Sidney Rice type player with McNabb throwing him the ball instead of Bruce Gradkowski or JaMarcus Russell. Also, wearing the Silver and Black doesn't mean much to younger people, but those of us who watched football in the 70s and 80s loved the Raiders. They won games, played a wild brand of football, and were a lot of fun to watch. Being a Raider still means something to people over the age of 30. Since 2003 the organization has fallen on hard times. Adding a Pro Bowl QB might be a great way to change that. I think McNabb might be more open to going to Oakland than many people think. It would give him a great opportunity to prove how good he can be. Kurt Warner solidified himself as a Hall of Fame player by leading the Cardinals to consecutive division titles and the Super Bowl. McNabb could do a similar thing if he could restore the Raiders to glory. Stay tuned.

 

[babydemon90]

I actually think Oakland would be pretty competitive with McNabb

 

[delusional]

Worse case with McNabb would be if he got traded somewhere for one year then in free agency signed with Washington while they groomed a Qb.

eagles trade mcnabb, kolb holds out, vick is the starter

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Worse case with McNabb would be if he got traded somewhere for one year then in free agency signed with Washington while they groomed a Qb.

eagles trade mcnabb, kolb holds out, Garcia is the starter

Fixed.

 

[delusional]

delete that because i am tired of ####### garcias name coming the hell up

OT, whats that footballl stats site that just came out recently?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

delete that because i am tired of ####### garcias name coming the hell upOT, whats that footballl stats site that just came out recently?

huh?

 

[delusional]

delete that because i am tired of ####### garcias name coming the hell upOT, whats that footballl stats site that just came out recently?

huh?

referring to profootballfocus

 

[theglorydays]

The latest reports I'm getting are that the Raiders are the frontrunners. ProFootballTalk is saying the same thing. The Jaguars remain interested, but it seems as if the Raiders are being more aggressive with their offer. I don't have any firm details, but the 8th overall pick in the 2010 draft is being talked about. Jacksonville may try to come up with a counter-offer, but it doesn't seem like they want to get into a bidding war.

The Buffalo Bills were the primary focus in yesterday's talks. I don't know what is happening with them. Maybe McNabb refused to sign an extension. Maybe the Bills and Eagles couldn't agree on compensation. I don't have good info on this angle right now. Don't count Buffalo out, but they are no longer in the lead.

As for Donovan going to the Raiders...this move makes some sense when you think about it. They have a pair of talented RBs in Darren McFadden and Michael Bush. They have a good TE in Zach Miller. They have 3 talented young WRs - Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy, and Darrius Heyward-Bey. DHB could turn out to be a Sidney Rice type player with McNabb throwing him the ball instead of Bruce Gradkowski or JaMarcus Russell.

Also, wearing the Silver and Black doesn't mean much to younger people, but those of us who watched football in the 70s and 80s loved the Raiders. They won games, played a wild brand of football, and were a lot of fun to watch. Being a Raider still means something to people over the age of 30. Since 2003 the organization has fallen on hard times. Adding a Pro Bowl QB might be a great way to change that.

I think McNabb might be more open to going to Oakland than many people think. It would give him a great opportunity to prove how good he can be. Kurt Warner solidified himself as a Hall of Fame player by leading the Cardinals to consecutive division titles and the Super Bowl. McNabb could do a similar thing if he could restore the Raiders to glory.

Stay tuned.

Oh i found it. http://eaglesblitz.blogspot.com/2010/03/oakland-in-lead.htmlHas this guy been pretty accurate in the past?

 

[Gachi]

I would LOVE for McNabb to go to Arizona or Minny. But that would never happen, Ried would be really dumb to let him go anywhere in the NFC, especially quality NFC teams. I just want him to be behind a decent o-line, we all know his injury history.

 

[JetMaxx]

I would LOVE for McNabb to go to Arizona or Minny. But that would never happen, Ried would be really dumb to let him go anywhere in the NFC, especially quality NFC teams. I just want him to be behind a decent o-line, we all know his injury history.

If that happened I would LOVE to meet that team in the playoffs.

 

[scratcher]

Again from Tommy Lawlor

PFT also talked about an AP report that the Eagles were requiring at least a top 42 pick. I don't doubt this is true. PFT focused on the fact that the article involved picks as low as 42. Their conclusion was that the Eagles weren't getting 1st round offers and would have to settle for a 2nd round pick. The actual AP article got the key point right. The Eagles will only accept a pick in the 2nd round if the other teams is also adding veteran players to the deal. There is no way that McNabb is dealt straight up for a 2nd round pick. I'm still hearing that teams are willing to give up 1st round picks. I could be getting bad information, but I trust the sources. Hopefully we'll get a deal done soon and we can find out who really knew what was going on. As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part.

 

[scratcher]

The latest reports I'm getting are that the Raiders are the frontrunners. ProFootballTalk is saying the same thing. The Jaguars remain interested, but it seems as if the Raiders are being more aggressive with their offer. I don't have any firm details, but the 8th overall pick in the 2010 draft is being talked about. Jacksonville may try to come up with a counter-offer, but it doesn't seem like they want to get into a bidding war.

The Buffalo Bills were the primary focus in yesterday's talks. I don't know what is happening with them. Maybe McNabb refused to sign an extension. Maybe the Bills and Eagles couldn't agree on compensation. I don't have good info on this angle right now. Don't count Buffalo out, but they are no longer in the lead.

As for Donovan going to the Raiders...this move makes some sense when you think about it. They have a pair of talented RBs in Darren McFadden and Michael Bush. They have a good TE in Zach Miller. They have 3 talented young WRs - Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy, and Darrius Heyward-Bey. DHB could turn out to be a Sidney Rice type player with McNabb throwing him the ball instead of Bruce Gradkowski or JaMarcus Russell.

Also, wearing the Silver and Black doesn't mean much to younger people, but those of us who watched football in the 70s and 80s loved the Raiders. They won games, played a wild brand of football, and were a lot of fun to watch. Being a Raider still means something to people over the age of 30. Since 2003 the organization has fallen on hard times. Adding a Pro Bowl QB might be a great way to change that.

I think McNabb might be more open to going to Oakland than many people think. It would give him a great opportunity to prove how good he can be. Kurt Warner solidified himself as a Hall of Fame player by leading the Cardinals to consecutive division titles and the Super Bowl. McNabb could do a similar thing if he could restore the Raiders to glory.

Stay tuned.

Oh i found it. http://eaglesblitz.blogspot.com/2010/03/oakland-in-lead.htmlHas this guy been pretty accurate in the past?

He's been pretty good and he's never afraid to say he doesnt know something instead of just throwing out rumors.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I just did some homework on McNabb, trying to quantify why Eagles fans are so vehemently opposed to him sticking around, and why so many non-Philly fans question them.

It basically comes down to fantasy football vs. NFL football. McNabb puts up great stats but fails to win clutch games. FF fans don't really care about wins - they just want the production, which is what most fans see. Under Reid, that's what you get in a pass-happy offense - big numbers.

I used some P-F-R data to look at all the QBs that have 50+ starts since 1999. Sorry to redirect you elsewhere, but that's where I can post the full table:

Link

The bottom line of that table just shows how non-clutch McNabb is, and that's why so many want him gone. He's had ample chances and I think the time is right to ship him out, and I am a fan of McNabb. He's done quite a bit for the Eagles since he's been here, but it is time to turn the page.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I just did some homework on McNabb, trying to quantify why Eagles fans are so vehemently opposed to him sticking around, and why so many non-Philly fans question them.

It basically comes down to fantasy football vs. NFL football. McNabb puts up great stats but fails to win clutch games. FF fans don't really care about wins - they just want the production, which is what most fans see. Under Reid, that's what you get in a pass-happy offense - big numbers.

I used some P-F-R data to look at all the QBs that have 50+ starts since 1999. Sorry to redirect you elsewhere, but that's where I can post the full table:

Link

The bottom line of that table just shows how non-clutch McNabb is, and that's why so many want him gone. He's had ample chances and I think the time is right to ship him out, and I am a fan of McNabb. He's done quite a bit for the Eagles since he's been here, but it is time to turn the page.

Kurt Warner is 4th from the bottom. Cardinals fans must be ecstatic he's finally out of the picture. Amirite?

 

[CentralPA]

I just did some homework on McNabb, trying to quantify why Eagles fans are so vehemently opposed to him sticking around, and why so many non-Philly fans question them.

It basically comes down to fantasy football vs. NFL football. McNabb puts up great stats but fails to win clutch games. FF fans don't really care about wins - they just want the production, which is what most fans see. Under Reid, that's what you get in a pass-happy offense - big numbers.

I used some P-F-R data to look at all the QBs that have 50+ starts since 1999. Sorry to redirect you elsewhere, but that's where I can post the full table:

Link

The bottom line of that table just shows how non-clutch McNabb is, and that's why so many want him gone. He's had ample chances and I think the time is right to ship him out, and I am a fan of McNabb. He's done quite a bit for the Eagles since he's been here, but it is time to turn the page.

And that's why most non-philly or people outside Philadelphia don't see why there is a large group Philly fans that just want a change. McNabb is not clutch, he can put up the numbers of a top 5 QB but he can't win the big game, whether be his fault or the fault of team play.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I just did some homework on McNabb, trying to quantify why Eagles fans are so vehemently opposed to him sticking around, and why so many non-Philly fans question them.

It basically comes down to fantasy football vs. NFL football. McNabb puts up great stats but fails to win clutch games. FF fans don't really care about wins - they just want the production, which is what most fans see. Under Reid, that's what you get in a pass-happy offense - big numbers.

I used some P-F-R data to look at all the QBs that have 50+ starts since 1999. Sorry to redirect you elsewhere, but that's where I can post the full table:

Link

The bottom line of that table just shows how non-clutch McNabb is, and that's why so many want him gone. He's had ample chances and I think the time is right to ship him out, and I am a fan of McNabb. He's done quite a bit for the Eagles since he's been here, but it is time to turn the page.

Kurt Warner is 4th from the bottom. Cardinals fans must be ecstatic he's finally out of the picture. Amirite?

Quick on the trigger, aren't we?

Now, this study is far from perfect. There are some names at both extremes that are head-scratchers. Drew Brees and Kurt Warner near the bottom? Jake Delhomme and Vinny Testaverde in the Top 3? Well, keep in mind what is not listed here are the number of possible comebacks that each quarterback had in his career. I'm sure that Testaverde had a ton of games where the only he was going to win at all would have been a comeback. On the other hand, Brees and Warner were often on teams that were blowing the opposition out most weeks, which did not afford either of them many chances (although Warner has had some nice postseason comeback games). Both quarterbacks do, however, possess the hardware that McNabb lacks – at least one Lombardi trophy. That is ultimately the judge of all quarterbacks, like it or not – and so far McNabb is also at the bottom of that list as well.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Quick on the trigger, aren't we?

Now, this study is far from perfect. There are some names at both extremes that are head-scratchers. Drew Brees and Kurt Warner near the bottom? Jake Delhomme and Vinny Testaverde in the Top 3? Well, keep in mind what is not listed here are the number of possible comebacks that each quarterback had in his career. I'm sure that Testaverde had a ton of games where the only he was going to win at all would have been a comeback. On the other hand, Brees and Warner were often on teams that were blowing the opposition out most weeks, which did not afford either of them many chances (although Warner has had some nice postseason comeback games). Both quarterbacks do, however, possess the hardware that McNabb lacks – at least one Lombardi trophy. That is ultimately the judge of all quarterbacks, like it or not – and so far McNabb is also at the bottom of that list as well.

The Eagles blow out teams too. They won a lot of games with McNabb throwing the ball. Nice try, but I don't think this means he is a less clutch QB than the only guy drafted ahead of him - Tim Couch - for the very same reasons you have for Brees and Warner. Their game plan for the whole Reid era has been get an early lead, blitz heavily, grow the lead.

 

[gonzobill5]

I don't think 4QCBs or GWDs are meaningful statistics for a whole boatload of reasons.

The reason this Eagles fan wants them to move on is:

1. This team is not built to win in 2010. McNabb won't be the same player by the time the rest of the team is in place.

2. I don't see the point of carrying 3 QBs when you have other needs.

3. I think that Kolb has the qualities to succeed in this offense.

It has nothing to do with some deep seeded hatred of McNabb. There was a time when he was my favorite player in the league. Assuming he doesn't become a Redskin, I'll probably continue to root for him.

 

[Jason Wood]

Take a look at that list of QBs and where they rank. Then throw that "analysis" out the door. C'mon Jeff...Tim Couch? Jay Fiedler?

If it looks like a buck and smells like a buck, it ain't a duck.

 

[Yenrub]

Take a look at that list of QBs and where they rank. Then throw that "analysis" out the door. C'mon Jeff...Tim Couch? Jay Fiedler? If it looks like a buck and smells like a buck, it ain't a duck.

How many of those guys listed above him on that list would you want to be the QB of your team at any point in their career instead of McNabbTestaverde, Tim Couch, Garrard, Fiedler, Kitna, Aaron Brooks, Griese are all ahead of McNabb on that list

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Take a look at that list of QBs and where they rank. Then throw that "analysis" out the door. C'mon Jeff...Tim Couch? Jay Fiedler? If it looks like a buck and smells like a buck, it ain't a duck.

How many of those guys listed above him on that list would you want to be the QB of your team at any point in their career instead of McNabbTestaverde, Tim Couch, Garrard, Fiedler, Kitna, Aaron Brooks, Griese are all ahead of McNabb on that list

OK, okay - fair points. I was just trying to look for an answer to why so many non-Philly fans love 5 and Philly fans want to ditch him. It was worth a try.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Oakland Raiders are willing to part with CB Nnamdi Asomugha in a possible deal for Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb, but the Eagles have been reluctant.

WOW, I take Nnamdi and run

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Take a look at that list of QBs and where they rank. Then throw that "analysis" out the door. C'mon Jeff...Tim Couch? Jay Fiedler? If it looks like a buck and smells like a buck, it ain't a duck.

Fair enough Jason....so what's your stance today? McNabb for what pick / player(s) is acceptable?You wouldn't take a good DB and #33?

 

[CentralPA]

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Oakland Raiders are willing to part with CB Nnamdi Asomugha in a possible deal for Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb, but the Eagles have been reluctant.WOW, I take Nnamdi and run

Wow, i'd take that in a heartbeat, they could trade either Samuels or Brown for draft picks. The secondary would be stacked if they fixed the safety position.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Oakland Raiders are willing to part with CB Nnamdi Asomugha in a possible deal for Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb, but the Eagles have been reluctant.WOW, I take Nnamdi and run

Wow, i'd take that in a heartbeat, they could trade either Samuels or Brown for draft picks. The secondary would be stacked if they fixed the safety position.

Adam_Schefter: "Remember: Asomugha's contract is a burden. It has one year, $16 million left and strong provisions preventing him from being franchised."

 

[CentralPA]

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Oakland Raiders are willing to part with CB Nnamdi Asomugha in a possible deal for Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb, but the Eagles have been reluctant.WOW, I take Nnamdi and run

Wow, i'd take that in a heartbeat, they could trade either Samuels or Brown for draft picks. The secondary would be stacked if they fixed the safety position.

Adam_Schefter: "Remember: Asomugha's contract is a burden. It has one year, $16 million left and strong provisions preventing him from being franchised."

I would have to think it would be a sign and trade deal for the Eagles. They have plenty of money to work with after dumping alot of salary so far.

 

[Jason Wood]

The "rumor" was actually that Oakland wanted McNabb AND Asante for Asomugha. Which is absurd.

 

[CentralPA]

The "rumor" was actually that Oakland wanted McNabb AND Asante for Asomugha. Which is absurd.

If that's the proposed deal then Al Davis might not be as senile as we thought. They (the Eagles) would never accept but it shows that Al Davis still has a very dim perception of value still.

 

[scratcher]

The "rumor" was actually that Oakland wanted McNabb AND Asante for Asomugha. Which is absurd.

If that's the proposed deal then Al Davis might not be as senile as we thought. They (the Eagles) would never accept but it shows that Al Davis still has a very dim perception of value still.

I think the current rumor is McNabb for Asomugha straight up. This is a no-brainer.

 

[delusional]

I was under the impression mcnabb has a clause they can deny a trade to certain teams?

Only way I see McNabb going to Oakland is if Oakland gets Aso to restructure his contract & another pick is thrown into the mix FOM Oakland.

I also think this Oakland talk could be a ploy by the Eagles to get SF to step up to the table.

 

[Mile High]

I don't think 4QCBs or GWDs are meaningful statistics for a whole boatload of reasons. The reason this Eagles fan wants them to move on is:1. This team is not built to win in 2010. McNabb won't be the same player by the time the rest of the team is in place.2. I don't see the point of carrying 3 QBs when you have other needs.3. I think that Kolb has the qualities to succeed in this offense. It has nothing to do with some deep seeded hatred of McNabb. There was a time when he was my favorite player in the league. Assuming he doesn't become a Redskin, I'll probably continue to root for him.

Don't follow the Eagles, but if the Eagles are rebuilding then it makes sense to move on and get what that can

 

[unckeyherb]

The "rumor" was actually that Oakland wanted McNabb AND Asante for Asomugha. Which is absurd.

If that's the proposed deal then Al Davis might not be as senile as we thought. They (the Eagles) would never accept but it shows that Al Davis still has a very dim perception of value still.

I think the current rumor is McNabb for Asomugha straight up. This is a no-brainer.

I thought I had heard Nnamdi and a second for McNabb and Asante. I think I would jump all over that. If it was McNabb for Nnamdi straight up, yeah, I'd probably jump all over that as well.

 

[Billy Bats]

National talking heads are actually saying if we trade 5 we're trading away a chance at a Super Bowl next season.

Are these guys ####### serious????

This team, as of right now, couldn't win with Football Jesus behind center.