*** Official 2010 Philadelphia Eagles Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[zadok]

Schefter adding that Philly sent a 5th rounder to Denver and 7th rounder to Detroit.Getting Sims for a 5th and 7th?

Wasn't the 7th from Denver to Detroit?

 

[renesauz]

I'm betting they pounce on PounceyI think Kolb will be used more like Garcia... and the running game will be more of a focus. With a bad OL, that isnt possible which puts too much pressure on Kolb... I think they trade up to get Pouncey.. draft a cornerback with their next pick, then best available of DE/S/LBIt will take a few years to "fix" the defense. Even if we draft 3 defensive players right away, they may not be ready to excel...To me makes more sense to fix the line (especially with a Pouncey type if he is as good as hyped)... draft a few defensive players with the next picksAfter this season, sign a free agent of defense (if one is available), continue to draft on the defensive side.. If Kolb is good, and the line is rebuilt, we should be back in contention in 2011.

If Kolb plays well, this team could contend as soon as this year.

 

[delusional]

Kinda bad when Detroit doesnt want you.

 

[Zoomanji]

Kinda bad when Detroit doesnt want you.

even worse when you immediately upgrade the LB corp of your new team?

 

[SouthJersey]

What's wrong with Sims that we got him for such a bargain basement price? I thought he was pretty good.

 

[delusional]

Kinda bad when Detroit doesnt want you.

even worse when you immediately upgrade the LB corp of your new team?

LMAO. So true. All I know about the guy is he had a grade 2 hamstring tear last season. Has alot of tackles, hardly any sacks and is missing when it comes to coverage.

 

[zadok]

delusional has become troll-usional.

 

[delusional]

delusional has become troll-usional.

Nice edit there. How am I trolling? The guy had a bad hamstring injury last season & has known shoulder problems. His coverage skills are not the greatest. He is a former 9th overall pick from Millen's days. Eagles got him for a 5th round pick? Yes he actually is a marginal upgrade for the Eagles LB core. That just says how bad they were/are. Is this a fix? Not at all but i believe the Eagles will sell it as a perm solution. He is fast ( dunno how fast after the hammy ), undersized & hits hard.Actually he might not even beat out Jordan. Ernie Sims coverage stats:24 x targeted, 22 receptions allowed (91% completion percent allowed), 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 1 PDAkeem Jordan coverage stats:33 x targeted, 24 receptions (72% comp percent), 1 TD, 2 INTs, 1 PD

 

[Jason Wood]

delusional has become troll-usional.

Nice edit there. How am I trolling? The guy had a bad hamstring injury last season & has known shoulder problems. His coverage skills are not the greatest. He is a former 9th overall pick from Millen's days. Eagles got him for a 5th round pick? Yes he actually is a marginal upgrade for the Eagles LB core. That just says how bad they were/are. Is this a fix? Not at all but i believe the Eagles will sell it as a perm solution. He is fast ( dunno how fast after the hammy ), undersized & hits hard.

I think this is a fair assessment in that it certainly fits in the basket of possible outcomes. But we're not committed to him if he's as marginal as you suggest, and even then he's still probably good enough to start for us at WILL this year. Presumably we still draft a LB or two and Sims either proves the critics wrong, and earns an extension as our LT starter or he holds down the fort while we see which one of our rookies/youngsters is equipped to give the job a try in 2011.

 

[delusional]

delusional has become troll-usional.

Nice edit there. How am I trolling? The guy had a bad hamstring injury last season & has known shoulder problems. His coverage skills are not the greatest. He is a former 9th overall pick from Millen's days. Eagles got him for a 5th round pick? Yes he actually is a marginal upgrade for the Eagles LB core. That just says how bad they were/are. Is this a fix? Not at all but i believe the Eagles will sell it as a perm solution. He is fast ( dunno how fast after the hammy ), undersized & hits hard.

I think this is a fair assessment in that it certainly fits in the basket of possible outcomes. But we're not committed to him if he's as marginal as you suggest, and even then he's still probably good enough to start for us at WILL this year. Presumably we still draft a LB or two and Sims either proves the critics wrong, and earns an extension as our LT starter or he holds down the fort while we see which one of our rookies/youngsters is equipped to give the job a try in 2011.

Thing is, is he really good enough for WLB? Coverage stats alone show Jordan > Sims. From what I am reading the guy can not get to the QB at all. He has 1 INT & 2.5 sacks in his CAREER. This trade seems to be nothing more then competition/bodies. Personally I don't like it too much, I would have rather have used that 5th to package together and trade up. But thats just me.

 

[zadok]

Nice edit there.

I made it nicer than it was...

How am I trolling?

IMHO, you've been trolling for months. The trade talk surrounding McNabb was all an invention of the media, etc?

 

[delusional]

Nice edit there.

I made it nicer than it was...

How am I trolling?

IMHO, you've been trolling for months. The trade talk surrounding McNabb was all an invention of the media, etc?

I seen the edit too, it said delusional = troll. I see so having an opinion that differs from your view is trolling. Way to go off topic too, we are talking about the Sims trade. If you have a problem with me then put me on ignore, i could care less.

 

[Saint]

I like the trade. Sims for a 5th... when you think about it we gain an experienced LB (granted he needs work, but then again so would anyone we would have drafted), and are able to address other concerns with our 1st and 2nd pick...

Nice move by the Birds!!!! Maybe it's just me, but I am extremely hyped about this year. I have been a Kolb supporter since he was drafted and with the offensive weapons, I really don't think we take any step backwards this year at all. When does the season start already?!?! I am suffering withdrawal!

 

[JetMaxx]

delusional has become troll-usional.

Nice edit there. How am I trolling? The guy had a bad hamstring injury last season & has known shoulder problems. His coverage skills are not the greatest. He is a former 9th overall pick from Millen's days. Eagles got him for a 5th round pick? Yes he actually is a marginal upgrade for the Eagles LB core. That just says how bad they were/are. Is this a fix? Not at all but i believe the Eagles will sell it as a perm solution. He is fast ( dunno how fast after the hammy ), undersized & hits hard.

I think this is a fair assessment in that it certainly fits in the basket of possible outcomes. But we're not committed to him if he's as marginal as you suggest, and even then he's still probably good enough to start for us at WILL this year. Presumably we still draft a LB or two and Sims either proves the critics wrong, and earns an extension as our LT starter or he holds down the fort while we see which one of our rookies/youngsters is equipped to give the job a try in 2011.

Can't go wrong by giving up a 5th for Sims for all of the reasons you mentioned. Nice trade.

 

[Fire the Fat Man]

So the Lions need all the talent they can get and they let Sims go? That doesn't bode well for the Eagles if the Lions don't even want him anymore.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

So the Lions need all the talent they can get and they let Sims go? That doesn't bode well for the Eagles if the Lions don't even want him anymore.

You're right, never in the history of the NFL has someone improved their game when they changed teams (in this case, to a much better team).

 

[Fire the Fat Man]

So the Lions need all the talent they can get and they let Sims go? That doesn't bode well for the Eagles if the Lions don't even want him anymore.

You're right, never in the history of the NFL has someone improved their game when they changed teams (in this case, to a much better team).

He can't cover, russ the passer, play good in run support. Doesn't matter which team he is on. Akeem Jordan is better than Sims in pass coverage.

 

[CiscoKid]

So the Lions need all the talent they can get and they let Sims go? That doesn't bode well for the Eagles if the Lions don't even want him anymore.

You're right, never in the history of the NFL has someone improved their game when they changed teams (in this case, to a much better team).

I really like this trade - it gives us a lot of flexibility in the draft.Sims has shown flashes in Detroit. A 5th rounder isn't much to gamble for a guy who was taken 9th overall in 2005, was a team captain, and is still only 25 years old. He's also in a contact year so he's going to be motivated, although if he shows something I'm sure we'll look to lock him up long term. Great move overall.

 

[Chunky Soup]

So the Lions need all the talent they can get and they let Sims go? That doesn't bode well for the Eagles if the Lions don't even want him anymore.

Interesting. I never heard of Randy Moss either.

 

[Snotbubbles]

So the Lions need all the talent they can get and they let Sims go? That doesn't bode well for the Eagles if the Lions don't even want him anymore.

Interesting. I never heard of Randy Moss either.

Didn't Moss play for the Vikings?

 

[Bushead]

So the Lions need all the talent they can get and they let Sims go? That doesn't bode well for the Eagles if the Lions don't even want him anymore.

Interesting. I never heard of Randy Moss either.

Didn't Moss play for the Vikings?

probably comparing Oakland to Detroit and Oakland sending Moss to NE?

 

[Domination]

Sims instantly adds speed and athleticism to the defense. His pass coverage might be suspect, but he is a big hitter and has a nose for the ball. Great move by the Eagles.

BTW Sims vs. Jordan

Jordan (35 games)

127 tackles, 21 assists

1 SACK, 2 FR

2 INT, 6 PD

Sims (59 games)

282 tackles, 139 assists

2.5 Sacks, 4 FF, 2 FR

1 INT, 5 PD

Sims will be given more opportunities to rush the QB in this defense, and I expect his speed to attribute to more sacks. He might not have have great cover skills, and probably never will. But the guy clearly knows where to be in order to make plays. I think he will be a great player for the Eagles this year, and wont be at all surprised if he is around for a few after that .

 

[Domination]

On another note...the draft.

Would I be the only one disappointed if they move back in the draft? I know that this is a deep draft, but we are already loaded with picks. The more I look into it, I am not sure that the guys we wold be targeting at #24 will get there. (Wilson, Thomas, Pouncey, etc) I am not saying that we should mortgage our draft to move up for one guy, but I think it will be necessary in order to attain the players that we are targeting, and I think the idea of moving back and taking the next tier of guys would be a mistake.

 

[zadok]

On another note...the draft.Would I be the only one disappointed if they move back in the draft? I know that this is a deep draft, but we are already loaded with picks. The more I look into it, I am not sure that the guys we wold be targeting at #24 will get there. (Wilson, Thomas, Pouncey, etc) I am not saying that we should mortgage our draft to move up for one guy, but I think it will be necessary in order to attain the players that we are targeting, and I think the idea of moving back and taking the next tier of guys would be a mistake.

Agreed. There is no way we are drafting 10 players.This trade today really opens things up.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I was just wondering if delusional had become BuddyKnuckles 2.0 with all the negativity.

 

[unckeyherb]

On another note...the draft.Would I be the only one disappointed if they move back in the draft? I know that this is a deep draft, but we are already loaded with picks. The more I look into it, I am not sure that the guys we wold be targeting at #24 will get there. (Wilson, Thomas, Pouncey, etc) I am not saying that we should mortgage our draft to move up for one guy, but I think it will be necessary in order to attain the players that we are targeting, and I think the idea of moving back and taking the next tier of guys would be a mistake.

Yeah, I'm not for 'mortgaging the draft' for one guy either. However, I'd be pretty stoked if they packaged picks to move up and grab Berry (doubtful) or Pierre-Paul (more possible, but again doubtful). I definitely don't see them trading down this year, but you never know with them. I hope they don't

 

[Gold Standard]

On another note...the draft.Would I be the only one disappointed if they move back in the draft? I know that this is a deep draft, but we are already loaded with picks. The more I look into it, I am not sure that the guys we wold be targeting at #24 will get there. (Wilson, Thomas, Pouncey, etc) I am not saying that we should mortgage our draft to move up for one guy, but I think it will be necessary in order to attain the players that we are targeting, and I think the idea of moving back and taking the next tier of guys would be a mistake.

Yeah, I'm not for 'mortgaging the draft' for one guy either. However, I'd be pretty stoked if they packaged picks to move up and grab Berry (doubtful) or Pierre-Paul (more possible, but again doubtful). I definitely don't see them trading down this year, but you never know with them. I hope they don't

If you listen to the WIP heads they all would be shocked if they stand pat at 24. They're really salivating over Berry and Thomas apparently, but other than DH's hotline into the NovaCare Center, who knows. You would think adding all these picks in the past few weeks would add merit to it.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

delusional has become troll-usional.

Nice edit there. How am I trolling? The guy had a bad hamstring injury last season & has known shoulder problems. His coverage skills are not the greatest. He is a former 9th overall pick from Millen's days. Eagles got him for a 5th round pick? Yes he actually is a marginal upgrade for the Eagles LB core. That just says how bad they were/are. Is this a fix? Not at all but i believe the Eagles will sell it as a perm solution. He is fast ( dunno how fast after the hammy ), undersized & hits hard.

I think this is a fair assessment in that it certainly fits in the basket of possible outcomes. But we're not committed to him if he's as marginal as you suggest, and even then he's still probably good enough to start for us at WILL this year. Presumably we still draft a LB or two and Sims either proves the critics wrong, and earns an extension as our LT starter or he holds down the fort while we see which one of our rookies/youngsters is equipped to give the job a try in 2011.

Thing is, is he really good enough for WLB? Coverage stats alone show Jordan > Sims. From what I am reading the guy can not get to the QB at all. He has 1 INT & 2.5 sacks in his CAREER. This trade seems to be nothing more then competition/bodies. Personally I don't like it too much, I would have rather have used that 5th to package together and trade up. But thats just me.

At what point (If any) do you factor in defensive schemes? Just curious.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So the Lions need all the talent they can get and they let Sims go? That doesn't bode well for the Eagles if the Lions don't even want him anymore.

That's if you value the opinions of the ones letting them go. I don't look at much Detroit does as smart.

 

[bweiser]

meh. i guess giving up a 5th for a body is OK at a position we need them. i would have rather given up a 4th for morrison i think and i probably think signing bulluck would have been the best move. probably.

i'll be honest: i'm torn on sims 'statistics.' part of me thinks he's a tackling machine because that is what the numbers say. part of me wants to say, 'well, teams think he sucks, so they attack him, which leads to a lot of tackles.' and where are those tackles? are they coming near the LOS, or 5-6 yards down field? if they're exploiting him, he's a weakness. is there a site that charts missed tackles like they do with drops or targets for WRs?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

meh. i guess giving up a 5th for a body is OK at a position we need them. i would have rather given up a 4th for morrison i think and i probably think signing bulluck would have been the best move. probably.i'll be honest: i'm torn on sims 'statistics.' part of me thinks he's a tackling machine because that is what the numbers say. part of me wants to say, 'well, teams think he sucks, so they attack him, which leads to a lot of tackles.' and where are those tackles? are they coming near the LOS, or 5-6 yards down field? if they're exploiting him, he's a weakness. is there a site that charts missed tackles like they do with drops or targets for WRs?

FYI Kirk Morrison is KING of the 5-6 yard downfield tackle. I like Simms' talent and I'm interested to see what he can do in our scheme. The 5th round guy picked in that spot more then likely wouldn't make the team or end up being the next Jeremy Bloom. I'm not expecting Simms to be a star but the potential is there and he's only 25.

 

[bweiser]

meh. i guess giving up a 5th for a body is OK at a position we need them. i would have rather given up a 4th for morrison i think and i probably think signing bulluck would have been the best move. probably.i'll be honest: i'm torn on sims 'statistics.' part of me thinks he's a tackling machine because that is what the numbers say. part of me wants to say, 'well, teams think he sucks, so they attack him, which leads to a lot of tackles.' and where are those tackles? are they coming near the LOS, or 5-6 yards down field? if they're exploiting him, he's a weakness. is there a site that charts missed tackles like they do with drops or targets for WRs?

FYI Kirk Morrison is KING of the 5-6 yard downfield tackle. I like Simms' talent and I'm interested to see what he can do in our scheme. The 5th round guy picked in that spot more then likely wouldn't make the team or end up being the next Jeremy Bloom. I'm not expecting Simms to be a star but the potential is there and he's only 25.

yeah, i know the raiders are down on morrison, too. i've just seen more of morrison than sims - i can't remember the last time i watched a lions game.

 

[ReggieHammond]

delusional has become troll-usional.

Nice edit there. How am I trolling? The guy had a bad hamstring injury last season & has known shoulder problems. His coverage skills are not the greatest. He is a former 9th overall pick from Millen's days. Eagles got him for a 5th round pick? Yes he actually is a marginal upgrade for the Eagles LB core. That just says how bad they were/are. Is this a fix? Not at all but i believe the Eagles will sell it as a perm solution. He is fast ( dunno how fast after the hammy ), undersized & hits hard.Actually he might not even beat out Jordan. Ernie Sims coverage stats:24 x targeted, 22 receptions allowed (91% completion percent allowed), 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 1 PDAkeem Jordan coverage stats:33 x targeted, 24 receptions (72% comp percent), 1 TD, 2 INTs, 1 PD

Gotta say I was thinking a similar thing to Zadok after I read your initial post, whatever this team does you seem to be straight in here putting a negative spin on it. Comparing those coverage stats is pretty pointless IMO, too many differences in their respective situations to glean much from their stats. Detroit has been such a basket case for so long I doubt many players there have been playing up to their potential.Really what's not to like about a giving up a 5th rounder for a young guy who was highly regarded coming out of college that could potentially give the team a decent upgrade?

 

[CaptainHook]

LB stats are utterly worthless please stop citing them. if someone has some gametape though id love to see it.

 

[delusional]

delusional has become troll-usional.

Nice edit there. How am I trolling? The guy had a bad hamstring injury last season & has known shoulder problems. His coverage skills are not the greatest. He is a former 9th overall pick from Millen's days. Eagles got him for a 5th round pick? Yes he actually is a marginal upgrade for the Eagles LB core. That just says how bad they were/are. Is this a fix? Not at all but i believe the Eagles will sell it as a perm solution. He is fast ( dunno how fast after the hammy ), undersized & hits hard.

I think this is a fair assessment in that it certainly fits in the basket of possible outcomes. But we're not committed to him if he's as marginal as you suggest, and even then he's still probably good enough to start for us at WILL this year. Presumably we still draft a LB or two and Sims either proves the critics wrong, and earns an extension as our LT starter or he holds down the fort while we see which one of our rookies/youngsters is equipped to give the job a try in 2011.

Thing is, is he really good enough for WLB? Coverage stats alone show Jordan > Sims. From what I am reading the guy can not get to the QB at all. He has 1 INT & 2.5 sacks in his CAREER. This trade seems to be nothing more then competition/bodies. Personally I don't like it too much, I would have rather have used that 5th to package together and trade up. But thats just me.

At what point (If any) do you factor in defensive schemes? Just curious.

Well what scheme are the eagles exactly running next season? Thats something you have to think too. I am sure there are going to be tweaks to it considering McDermott & Jauron will have a fresh start together.As for his tackles in an above post, i believe alot were downfield from behind tackles.Whats not to like? Eh i can see the Eagles selling this to the fan base as the answer at WLB when it isnt. Thats what I don't like. I am more worried about what they are going to do at SAM then anything because that was a bigger hole. Jordan is too small to play that role.I still think Jordan will beat out Sims for he WLB if that is the only competition going into camp. We will see what happens though, draft can change alot of things.lmao negativity? maybe it comes off that way but I seen the eagles hype train on players in the past that amounted to zlich so i am looking at it from outside the box, if it is negative then it happens.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Well what scheme are the eagles exactly running next season? Thats something you have to think too. I am sure there are going to be tweaks to it considering McDermott & Jauron will have a fresh start together.

So we can at least agree that the Eagles will not be running a Tampa 2 D and that we'll actually use a SAM and WILL, right. Detroit's scheme (or lack of) is entirely different then ours regardless of the tweaks. Detroit didn't even use a SAM and WILL. As I've said prior to this, I don't expect him to be a star but he has the potential and is just 25 years old.

 

[phillyfan72]

I was just wondering if delusional had become BuddyKnuckles 2.0 with all the negativity.

I was thinking the same thing Jeff. Not one positive thing to say. Must be a WIP follower.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I was just wondering if delusional had become BuddyKnuckles 2.0 with all the negativity.

I was thinking the same thing Jeff. Not one positive thing to say. Must be a WIP follower.

Hey, I'm all for keeping it real and being critical at times, but consistently negative isn't a great way to go. No one should be 100% on the bandwagon on every move either - but there's a large range between Howard Eskin and Dave Spadaro....

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I've watched Ernie Sims his entire career here in Detroit. He's been a disappointment overall because he was drafted so highly (No. 9 overall) but early on he was the best and really the only player we had on defense. He ran hard to the ball, made big hits but for whatever reason found a way to hurt himself on those big hits. As things got even worse on defense these last 2 to 2.5 years, his play has tapered off, been dinged up but I'm not entirely convinced this guy is washed up.

I think with his speed, he could be used effectively for the Eagles on certain blitzes and he moves very well from sideline to sideline. As a Dallas fan, I don't like to see Ernie Sims as an Eagle. He's a good athlete who's never played for a good defense and he may just relish this 2nd chance. I like the trade for Philly.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I've watched Ernie Sims his entire career here in Detroit. He's been a disappointment overall because he was drafted so highly (No. 9 overall) but early on he was the best and really the only player we had on defense. He ran hard to the ball, made big hits but for whatever reason found a way to hurt himself on those big hits. As things got even worse on defense these last 2 to 2.5 years, his play has tapered off, been dinged up but I'm not entirely convinced this guy is washed up.I think with his speed, he could be used effectively for the Eagles on certain blitzes and he moves very well from sideline to sideline. As a Dallas fan, I don't like to see Ernie Sims as an Eagle. He's a good athlete who's never played for a good defense and he may just relish this 2nd chance. I like the trade for Philly.

I think the change of scenery, coaching staff and overall environment will be a positive for Sims. It's a low risk, high reward move for Philly. I like trading a 5th for an NFL veteran with some upside.

 

[CentralPA]

I've watched Ernie Sims his entire career here in Detroit. He's been a disappointment overall because he was drafted so highly (No. 9 overall) but early on he was the best and really the only player we had on defense. He ran hard to the ball, made big hits but for whatever reason found a way to hurt himself on those big hits. As things got even worse on defense these last 2 to 2.5 years, his play has tapered off, been dinged up but I'm not entirely convinced this guy is washed up.I think with his speed, he could be used effectively for the Eagles on certain blitzes and he moves very well from sideline to sideline. As a Dallas fan, I don't like to see Ernie Sims as an Eagle. He's a good athlete who's never played for a good defense and he may just relish this 2nd chance. I like the trade for Philly.

I second that Jeff. We've seen on many occasions where a player who has great talent but stuck on a team that just went no where and knew it. He seems like a good fit for this type of blitz happy defense. Giving up a 5th round draft pick in a draft where the Egales have what.....6 picks in the first 5 rounds with 2 in the 2nd and 2 in the 3rd for a guy who has some major upside and now is on a team that is playoff caliber instead of going no where. I think they gave up little for what could end up being a lot.

 

[Domination]

2 Days before the draft!!

Any inside scoop for us DH?

 

[JaxBill]

So I guess the Eagles will open at home since the Phils are away Week 1 and home the next two weeks?

 

[scratcher]

Pros vs. Joes has apparently healed all wounds between Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens.The new Redskins quarterback has reportedly encouraged his coaching staff to sign T.O., according to ESPN's Ed Werder. It doesn't sound like McNabb will get his wish.(Rick Maese of the Washington Post writes that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan "aren't regularly checking the locker room 'Suggestion Box.'")Despite viewing wide receiver as a "high priority" to upgrade, the Redskins would reportedly rather look elsewhere if possible. Somewhere, Santana Moss is probably hearing about all this and isn't too happy.

McNabb to TO in a redskins uniform will be both strange and scary.

 

[zadok]

Pros vs. Joes has apparently healed all wounds between Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens.The new Redskins quarterback has reportedly encouraged his coaching staff to sign T.O., according to ESPN's Ed Werder. It doesn't sound like McNabb will get his wish.(Rick Maese of the Washington Post writes that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan "aren't regularly checking the locker room 'Suggestion Box.'")Despite viewing wide receiver as a "high priority" to upgrade, the Redskins would reportedly rather look elsewhere if possible. Somewhere, Santana Moss is probably hearing about all this and isn't too happy.

McNabb to TO in a redskins uniform will be both strange and scary.

2004 was 6 years ago. Just sayin.

 

[CiscoKid]

Pros vs. Joes has apparently healed all wounds between Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens.The new Redskins quarterback has reportedly encouraged his coaching staff to sign T.O., according to ESPN's Ed Werder. It doesn't sound like McNabb will get his wish.(Rick Maese of the Washington Post writes that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan "aren't regularly checking the locker room 'Suggestion Box.'")Despite viewing wide receiver as a "high priority" to upgrade, the Redskins would reportedly rather look elsewhere if possible. Somewhere, Santana Moss is probably hearing about all this and isn't too happy.

McNabb to TO in a redskins uniform will be both strange and scary.

2004 was 6 years ago. Just sayin.

The drama would just be unreal if the Skins signed TO...

 

[JetMaxx]

Pros vs. Joes has apparently healed all wounds between Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens.The new Redskins quarterback has reportedly encouraged his coaching staff to sign T.O., according to ESPN's Ed Werder. It doesn't sound like McNabb will get his wish.(Rick Maese of the Washington Post writes that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan "aren't regularly checking the locker room 'Suggestion Box.'")Despite viewing wide receiver as a "high priority" to upgrade, the Redskins would reportedly rather look elsewhere if possible. Somewhere, Santana Moss is probably hearing about all this and isn't too happy.

McNabb to TO in a redskins uniform will be both strange and scary.

That classy leadership from 5 already coming to the fore in DC. Nothing like rallying your new teammates and making them feel good about your presence by asking to bring in someone to replace them.

 

[phillyphan07]

Thing is, is he really good enough for WLB? Coverage stats alone show Jordan > Sims. From what I am reading the guy can not get to the QB at all. He has 1 INT & 2.5 sacks in his CAREER. This trade seems to be nothing more then competition/bodies. Personally I don't like it too much, I would have rather have used that 5th to package together and trade up. But thats just me.

Matt Millen drafted him in the top 10 and he has only caught one pass in the NFL? I'm sooooooo surprised

 

[delusional]

I was just wondering if delusional had become BuddyKnuckles 2.0 with all the negativity.

I was thinking the same thing Jeff. Not one positive thing to say. Must be a WIP follower.

Hey, I'm all for keeping it real and being critical at times, but consistently negative isn't a great way to go. No one should be 100% on the bandwagon on every move either - but there's a large range between Howard Eskin and Dave Spadaro....

I was happy with the Weaver signing. Its not all negative. I just don't feel the need to point out the obvious positives.Hard to believe the draft is 2 days away. Just wait until thursday night. Ill be in here and the skins thread. Should be some good times then Would be interesting to see McNabb to TO again. Guess it shows the whole "beef" between them was blown out of proportion or was more of a TO/FO thing.ps - actually i hate talk radio, about the only time i have the radio on is to listen to the phils

 

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Lawlor's evaluation of Ernie:

Evaluating ErniePosted by Tommy Lawlor at 10:10 AM 11 comments***Ernie Sims6'0, 230born 12/23/84Career Stats56 starts2.5 sacks5 PDs1 INT4 FFs17 TFLsBest season was 2007: 97 solo tackles, 1 sack, 7 TFLs, 3 FFs, 2 PDs, 1 INTGeneral --- Muscular legs. Big butt. Ripped arms. Extremely athletic. Very good COD. Fast, quick, and agile. Closes to the ball really well. Light on his feet, which is good and bad. Helps him to change direction instantly and cover lots of ground, but also means a lineman can send him flying with a good block. Willing to attack lead blockers. Loves to fly upfield and attack. Shows promise as a blitzer. Has a good burst. Has outstanding cover skills. His backpedal looks better than some DBs. Has excellent speed and range. His speed also causes some problems. Overruns plays sometimes. Tackling is sloppy at times because he is out of control and will miss runners. VS DALLAS 2007 --- Pursued well and tackled RB from behind. Got off block of Witten and slowed down Barber on run to his side. Covered Witten on a short crossing route and forced him out of bounds after a gain of 6 yards. Covered TO in the flat and forced Romo to throw elsewhere. Got in on a tackle of Witten by throwing himself on top of a small cluster of players and pulling him down. Tackled Witten after a catch over the middle late in the half. Hustled over in pursuit to force TO out of bounds. Overran Witten in space and missed the tackle. Tackled Witten after short catch over the middle. Hit a pulling linemen and helped to throw off a run play to his side. Came up on a short pass to get in on a tackle of Barber and keep him out of the endzone. Tackled RB after short catch over the middle. Got to the ball in a hurry and limited the gain. VS GB 2007 --- Moved to his right quickly to get in on tackle of RB. Engaged an OL on an inside run, but couldn't get off the block and the RB went right by him. Ryan Grant caught a short pass over the middle and half a second after the ball arrived so did Sims. Floored the RB. Had tight coverage of Grant in the flat and forced the QB to look elsewhere. Made a good tackle of Grant after catch over the middle. Read a middle screen early and played it well. Didn't make the tackle, but impacted the play by staying in the middle and fighting a blocker, which didn't give the RB a clear lane. Got a quick hit on a WR on a catch over the middle. Tackled WR after short catch over the middle. Made a sloppy tackle attempt on a WR over the middle and gave up an extra yard on the play. Jumped a WR on a crossing route and forced Favre to go elsewhere. Took on the block of a TE and forced a run play back to the inside. Did his job, but never shed the block. Good tackle of Grant after RB screen. Got to the ball quickly. Took a good pursuit angle and helped get Grant down on a run to the outside. Was off balance when a throw to WR on crossing route came near him and couldn't make the play. VS TEN 2008 --- Missed a tackle on WR reverse early in the game. Flew out wide to get in on a tackle on WR screen. Helped limit the play to just 5 yards. Attacked a pulling OL and clogged up a running play. Someone else made the tackle, but Sims blew up the play. Had Chris Johnson 1-on-1 on a short route. Stayed close to him and then tackled Chris when the ball did come to him. Limited the play to 5 yards and forced a punt. Took away an outside running lane for Johnson and forced him back to the middle, and other LBs. Flowed to the ball on a run to the right side and got in on a tackle of Johnson. Had tight coverage of Johnson on a pass play and forced Collins to throw the ball elsewhere. SUMMARY --- The Eagles got a really interesting player. Ernie is probably the most athletic LB we've ever had. I don't really have good comparisons for him. We've had undersized LBs over the years (Darrin Smith, Keith Adams, Mark Simoneau, Matt McCoy), but none of them was quite like Ernie. I'm really curious to see how he plays in our system. He was a run and hit guy in Detroit. We use our guys to attack more. He instantly is one of our Nickel LBs. He could be a terrific STer. I'm not sure they'll use him there or not. Ernie plays with reckless abandon. You may want to protect him from himself by keeping him off kick coverage units. As a run defender Ernie will have to adjust to our style of play and our opponents. I'm not sure how he'll do when Madison Hedgecock is the lead blocker on an iso run to that side.I think the Eagles made a smart gamble by going after Sims. If they can get him to improve on shedding blocks he could be a terrific WLB. Sims has the speed and range to make plays all over the field. He has the burst to be a good blitzer. He is a physical hitter and tackler. He is naturally tough and aggressive.This move can't be fully evaluated until we see what Sims does in our system. We also need to see if he can stay healthy. He battled injuries the last 2 seasons and that affected his play. I don't think you can discount the impact that playing in a winning environment will have. During Sims career:record at Detroit 12- 52defense in Pts / Yds2006 30 / 282007 32 / 322008 32 / 322009 32 / 32We had a disappointing season. We won 11 games, but failed to take the division title or win in the postseason. Our defense really struggled. We were 19th in Pts and 12 in Yds allowed. Think about that in comparison to Ernie's NFL experience. He's never played with the talent that we have (Asante Samuel, Trent Cole, Bunk & Patt, Stewart Bradley). Detroit was also dysfunctional and lacked the stability that we have. Ernie couldn't have stepped into a better situation. Let's hope it brings out the best in him. He'll also be in a contract year and that never hurts. We'll talk extension with him after we see what kind of a fit he is.