*** Official 2012-13 Hot Stove Thread (3 Viewers)

[Eephus]

He hit .278/.321/.328 for the second half last year.Maybe the machine you had in mind was the digestive system?

I remember a bunch of 4 for 5 games and a long hitting streak. Maybe I misremembered or it came earlier in the year. I didnt check the stats, just going off my poor memory.

I think he had a hot period in July. Had him on my fantasy team at that time, before dropping him.

Revere was a great deep league waiver wire pickup last year. He had a slow start and was sent down briefly but was solid after his return. 36 SB from June 1 is pretty useful.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Who are the journalists we can trust? Is Morosi trustworthy?

Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports heard from a source that the Royals are not in the Anibal Sanchez market.FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reported Wednesday that the Royals had made Sanchez their top free agent choice, but Passan is a Kansas City-based writer and is better connected to the team's brain trust. It seems that the asking price is too high at the moment for the cost-conscious Royals, who may trade for a top starter.

Seems like all these tools are trying so hard to crack the story that they're willing to make stuff up.

 

[Eephus]

Who are the journalists we can trust? Is Morosi trustworthy?

Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports heard from a source that the Royals are not in the Anibal Sanchez market.FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reported Wednesday that the Royals had made Sanchez their top free agent choice, but Passan is a Kansas City-based writer and is better connected to the team's brain trust. It seems that the asking price is too high at the moment for the cost-conscious Royals, who may trade for a top starter.

Seems like all these tools are trying so hard to crack the story that they're willing to make stuff up.

The Royals have committed $38M to Ervin Santana and Jeremy Guthrie. I think they would have been better off devoting their resources toward getting one blue chip FA like Sanchez and take their chances on finding a cheaper replacement level option who could replace Santana or Guthrie.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Rule 5 Results:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21290817/players-chosen-in-major-league-rule-5-draft

 

[Eephus]

Rule 5 Results:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21290817/players-chosen-in-major-league-rule-5-draft

Oakland's acquisition Steven Hill looks like one of the more likely Rule 5 candidates to stick. He's a 27 year old catcher with two cups of coffee with the Cardinals. Hill seems like an archetypal Moneyball bat with above average BB% and good power for a catcher. I doubt there's much upside there but he could be a very cheap backup catcher.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Zack Greinke is married to a Cowboys cheerleader? He seems like he should be married to Dita Von Teese or something.

http://karlafountainblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ez25.jpg

 

[Brady Marino]

Rule 5 Results:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21290817/players-chosen-in-major-league-rule-5-draft

Oakland's acquisition Steven Hill looks like one of the more likely Rule 5 candidates to stick. He's a 27 year old catcher with two cups of coffee with the Cardinals. Hill seems like an archetypal Moneyball bat with above average BB% and good power for a catcher. I doubt there's much upside there but he could be a very cheap backup catcher.

Hill is a better fielding version of Matt LeCroy. He is not exactly Bench behind the plate.

 

[Eephus]

Rule 5 Results:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21290817/players-chosen-in-major-league-rule-5-draft

Oakland's acquisition Steven Hill looks like one of the more likely Rule 5 candidates to stick. He's a 27 year old catcher with two cups of coffee with the Cardinals. Hill seems like an archetypal Moneyball bat with above average BB% and good power for a catcher. I doubt there's much upside there but he could be a very cheap backup catcher.

Hill is a better fielding version of Matt LeCroy. He is not exactly Bench behind the plate.

If he was a high OPS catcher who could field the position, he wouldn't be a 27 year old Rule 5 pick

 

[Brady Marino]

Rule 5 Results:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21290817/players-chosen-in-major-league-rule-5-draft

Oakland's acquisition Steven Hill looks like one of the more likely Rule 5 candidates to stick. He's a 27 year old catcher with two cups of coffee with the Cardinals. Hill seems like an archetypal Moneyball bat with above average BB% and good power for a catcher. I doubt there's much upside there but he could be a very cheap backup catcher.

Hill is a better fielding version of Matt LeCroy. He is not exactly Bench behind the plate.

If he was a high OPS catcher who could field the position, he wouldn't be a 27 year old Rule 5 pick

St. Louis has had a long standing tradition of all-field, no-hit catchers (until Yadi stopped hitting like your usual Molina).

 

[Eephus]

The biggest trades of the Winter Meetings involved Ben Revere, Yunel Escobar and Wilton Lopez.

More meh than Joe Blanton

 

[shadyridr]

Eephus, how do u know so much about baseball? You're my hero

 

[Eephus]

Eephus, how do u know so much about baseball? You're my hero

I looked up the stuff on Steven Hill. I was curious why Beane picked a 90 year old actor in the rule 5 draft.Mr Phoenix has at least seen him play.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Zack Greinke is married to a Cowboys cheerleader? He seems like he should be married to Dita Von Teese or something.http://karlafountainblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ez25.jpg

Either that or someone with a unit.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Rule 5 Results:http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21290817/players-chosen-in-major-league-rule-5-draft

Oakland's acquisition Steven Hill looks like one of the more likely Rule 5 candidates to stick. He's a 27 year old catcher with two cups of coffee with the Cardinals. Hill seems like an archetypal Moneyball bat with above average BB% and good power for a catcher. I doubt there's much upside there but he could be a very cheap backup catcher.

Hill is a better fielding version of Matt LeCroy. He is not exactly Bench behind the plate.

If he was a high OPS catcher who could field the position, he wouldn't be a 27 year old Rule 5 pick

They've got an awful lot of control left over Norris and Kotteras, but maybe this paves the way to dangle one of them in a deal for an SS?The power is intriguing, though.

 

[Brady Marino]

Eephus, how do u know so much about baseball? You're my hero

I looked up the stuff on Steven Hill. I was curious why Beane picked a 90 year old actor in the rule 5 draft.Mr Phoenix has at least seen him play.

I wondered why Hill didn't at least get a chance to be a C/1B guy who can come off the bench and hit with pop. Then I rememebered the last backup catchers the Cards have had are Jason LaRue, Gerald Laird, and Tony Cruz. Between the three, they struggle to hit over .200 and get the ball out of the infield. No room for a backup that can actually look competent with a baseball bat.

 

[MAC_32]

Who are the journalists we can trust? Is Morosi trustworthy?

Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports heard from a source that the Royals are not in the Anibal Sanchez market.FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reported Wednesday that the Royals had made Sanchez their top free agent choice, but Passan is a Kansas City-based writer and is better connected to the team's brain trust. It seems that the asking price is too high at the moment for the cost-conscious Royals, who may trade for a top starter.

Seems like all these tools are trying so hard to crack the story that they're willing to make stuff up.

The Royals have committed $38M to Ervin Santana and Jeremy Guthrie. I think they would have been better off devoting their resources toward getting one blue chip FA like Sanchez and take their chances on finding a cheaper replacement level option who could replace Santana or Guthrie.

Royals being the Royals.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Did you see my Neifi post? Run that through the translator link I posted.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Did you see my Neifi post? Run that through the translator link I posted.

:NEIFI!:

 

[guru_007]

The Royals have committed $38M to Ervin Santana and Jeremy Guthrie. I think they would have been better off devoting their resources toward getting one blue chip FA like Sanchez and take their chances on finding a cheaper replacement level option who could replace Santana or Guthrie.

maybe they did Just because a guy is a free agent doesn't necessarily mean he wants to sign with any team that approaches him. And while they are on the books for this 38m, the Santana deal is only one year - maybe Sanchez is looking for at least a 3-4 year deal with a team he feels can contend right now at more money? Free agent pitchers are a pretty huge crap shoot imho. You really have to trust that the gm of the team is doing his due diligence on each player.And while most of us in this thread/forum are probably more knowledgeable than the casual fan....and we seem to see glimmers of hope that the Royals are a team on the come with a strong base of young talent....this is still a team that finished at 72-90 last year, and hasn't made the playoffs since 1985. Sometimes it's a hard sell to lure a more attractive free agent player on a team that probably isn't on the short list of playoff hopefulls next year.Lots of rumors swirling about KC trying to trade for a top notch starter, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[MAC_32]

The Royals have committed $38M to Ervin Santana and Jeremy Guthrie. I think they would have been better off devoting their resources toward getting one blue chip FA like Sanchez and take their chances on finding a cheaper replacement level option who could replace Santana or Guthrie.

maybe they did Just because a guy is a free agent doesn't necessarily mean he wants to sign with any team that approaches him. And while they are on the books for this 38m, the Santana deal is only one year - maybe Sanchez is looking for at least a 3-4 year deal with a team he feels can contend right now at more money? Free agent pitchers are a pretty huge crap shoot imho. You really have to trust that the gm of the team is doing his due diligence on each player.And while most of us in this thread/forum are probably more knowledgeable than the casual fan....and we seem to see glimmers of hope that the Royals are a team on the come with a strong base of young talent....this is still a team that finished at 72-90 last year, and hasn't made the playoffs since 1985. Sometimes it's a hard sell to lure a more attractive free agent player on a team that probably isn't on the short list of playoff hopefulls next year.Lots of rumors swirling about KC trying to trade for a top notch starter, I'll believe it when I see it.

Sanchez is demanding 6/90, and if your choices are over paying for Sanchez or over paying for both Guthrie and Santana the play here is Sanchez. Guthrie and Santana are such Francouer and Mike Jacobs type of moves.

 

[Billy Bats]

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammoIf you don't believe the multi-team Upton trade talk, Wednesday night a Rangers official called an Astros officisl and said, "we got Upton."

Not sure what that means, but maybe they're close to a blockbuster.

 

[guru_007]

Sanchez is demanding 6/90, and if your choices are over paying for Sanchez or over paying for both Guthrie and Santana the play here is Sanchez. Guthrie and Santana are such Francouer and Mike Jacobs type of moves.

I didn't realize you were Sanchez's agent, and had intimate knowledge of his demands to the Royals management.I'll also disagree with you that 6 years at 90 million is better than 1 year and 3 year deals to guys who should get you 180-200 reasonable innings. It seems long term deals always work out best of the club, especially when pitchers are involved.

 

[Bogart]

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammoIf you don't believe the multi-team Upton trade talk, Wednesday night a Rangers official called an Astros officisl and said, "we got Upton."

Not sure what that means, but maybe they're close to a blockbuster.

Maybe they were just talking about Kate throwing out the first pitch Opening Day.

 

[Billy Bats]

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammoIf you don't believe the multi-team Upton trade talk, Wednesday night a Rangers official called an Astros officisl and said, "we got Upton."

Not sure what that means, but maybe they're close to a blockbuster.

Maybe they were just talking about Kate throwing out the first pitch Opening Day.

Only if she did it in a bikini.

 

[MAC_32]

Sanchez is demanding 6/90, and if your choices are over paying for Sanchez or over paying for both Guthrie and Santana the play here is Sanchez. Guthrie and Santana are such Francouer and Mike Jacobs type of moves.

I didn't realize you were Sanchez's agent, and had intimate knowledge of his demands to the Royals management.I'll also disagree with you that 6 years at 90 million is better than 1 year and 3 year deals to guys who should get you 180-200 reasonable innings. It seems long term deals always work out best of the club, especially when pitchers are involved.

It's widely reported these are his contract demands.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammoIf you don't believe the multi-team Upton trade talk, Wednesday night a Rangers official called an Astros officisl and said, "we got Upton."

Not sure what that means, but maybe they're close to a blockbuster.

The Rangers are now calling the Astros to talk smack?

 

[Bogart]

Peter Gammons ‏@pgammoIf you don't believe the multi-team Upton trade talk, Wednesday night a Rangers official called an Astros officisl and said, "we got Upton."

Not sure what that means, but maybe they're close to a blockbuster.

The Rangers are now calling the Astros to talk smack?

I'm going to bet the term "official" might be stretched a bit. Could very well have been the Texas Season Ticket salesman talking to the Houston Promotion Manager to discuss Nolan Ryan bobble-head dates.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Ludwick back to the Reds

B McCarthy to the DBacks

 

[Eephus]

Ludwick back to the RedsB McCarthy to the DBacks

Arizona has a lot of SP depth. Corbin, Skaggs and (when he returns) Hudson are all on the outside. May lend more credence to the rumors that Bauer is available at the right price.

 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

Ludwick back to the RedsB McCarthy to the DBacks

Nuts. There had been chatter about the Twins being in the market for McCarthy and the contract with Arizona seems like something they could easily afford. I'm sure they would have had to add more as the D-Backs are in a better position to win then MN is.They're just saving their cash for Greinke.

 

[MAC_32]

Ludwick back to the RedsB McCarthy to the DBacks

Arizona has a lot of SP depth. Corbin, Skaggs and (when he returns) Hudson are all on the outside. May lend more credence to the rumors that Bauer is available at the right price.

Smells like at least one of those young arms is gone, otherwise they're not signing McCarthy. Whether that arm goes now, March, or July. We'll see.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Ludwick back to the Reds

B McCarthy to the DBacks

Arizona has a lot of SP depth. Corbin, Skaggs and (when he returns) Hudson are all on the outside. May lend more credence to the rumors that Bauer is available at the right price.

Smells like at least one of those young arms is gone, otherwise they're not signing McCarthy. Whether that arm goes now, March, or July. We'll see.

Yeah that's what I thought when I read he signed there. They have a ton of depth and are trying to trade Upton when they should probably be trying to trade for Upton.

 

[shadyridr]

McCarthy is a really really good pitcher. Just injury prone. Great signing

 

[RnR]

McCarthy is a really really good pitcher. Just injury prone. Great signing

We'll see. There's that whole "Brain surgery because he got hit in the head by a line drive" thing to get over.

 

[Eephus]

McCarthy is a really really good pitcher. Just injury prone. Great signing

We'll see. There's that whole "Brain surgery because he got hit in the head by a line drive" thing to get over.

Flyball pitcher in a HR friendly park is another concern. I think he can still be successful w/ Arizona if he can stay healthy, but the latter isn't a given.

 

[Billy Bats]

Michael Young expected to accept trade to Phillies today.

 

[Bogart]

Michael Young expected to accept trade to Phillies today.

Complete profession. Good guy. Got some negative pub when Andrus first came up, but in the end has been a complete team guy.I will be rooting for him to succeed.

 

[scoobus]

Young to Philly!

 

[scoobus]

Michael Young expected to accept trade to Phillies today.

Complete profession. Good guy. Got some negative pub when Andrus first came up, but in the end has been a complete team guy.I will be rooting for him to succeed.

I agree he's a good team guy, but I soured on him big time when that whole Andrus thing happened. And then he pretty much did the same thing when we signed Beltre. Add in the fact that he has no glove, no speed, and now no bat (although it wouldn't surprise me if he rebounded somewhat next year), and I am more than happy to see him gone. Wish we could've sent Ron Washington with him.

 

[Eephus]

Michael Young expected to accept trade to Phillies today.

Complete profession. Good guy. Got some negative pub when Andrus first came up, but in the end has been a complete team guy.I will be rooting for him to succeed.

I agree he's a good team guy, but I soured on him big time when that whole Andrus thing happened. And then he pretty much did the same thing when we signed Beltre. Add in the fact that he has no glove, no speed, and now no bat (although it wouldn't surprise me if he rebounded somewhat next year), and I am more than happy to see him gone. Wish we could've sent Ron Washington with him.

Advanced fielding metrics have Young as a negative glove at 3B during his last two full seasons there (2009-2010).

 

[scoobus]

Michael Young expected to accept trade to Phillies today.

Complete profession. Good guy. Got some negative pub when Andrus first came up, but in the end has been a complete team guy.I will be rooting for him to succeed.

I agree he's a good team guy, but I soured on him big time when that whole Andrus thing happened. And then he pretty much did the same thing when we signed Beltre. Add in the fact that he has no glove, no speed, and now no bat (although it wouldn't surprise me if he rebounded somewhat next year), and I am more than happy to see him gone. Wish we could've sent Ron Washington with him.

Advanced fielding metrics have Young as a negative glove at 3B during his last two full seasons there (2009-2010).

Calling Young a negative glove at 3B puts it kindly how bad he is over there. Absolutely 0 range. On a hard it ball, it's pretty much move your body out of the way, close your eyes, and take a blind stab at the ball.

 

[shadyridr]

McCarthy is a really really good pitcher. Just injury prone. Great signing

We'll see. There's that whole "Brain surgery because he got hit in the head by a line drive" thing to get over.

Flyball pitcher in a HR friendly park is another concern. I think he can still be successful w/ Arizona if he can stay healthy, but the latter isn't a given.

Agreed for fantasy purposes I'd stay away. Maybe not a great fit for the team. I just think hes a very good, underrated pitcher.

 

[Billy Bats]

Grienke's about to get 26m/year from the Dodges.

 

[the moops]

Grienke's about to get 26m/year from the Dodges.

6 year, 147 million.Dodgers now have the largest payroll in the history of baseball.

 

[Balco]

Grienke's about to get 26m/year from the Dodges.

6 year, 147 million.Dodgers now have the largest payroll in the history of baseball.

Yikes. Never been a fan of giving that type of contract to a pitcher.If everyone stays healthy, Dodgers are going to be stacked. Health is a big if, though.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Dodgers = Dream Team?

The Dodger thread on this board must be going crazy right now. Oh....whoops.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Lots of expectations with that kind of payroll. Grienke worth a lot, market decided to give him enough to buy the MLS.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Michael Young expected to accept trade to Phillies today.

Complete profession. Good guy. Got some negative pub when Andrus first came up, but in the end has been a complete team guy.I will be rooting for him to succeed.

I agree he's a good team guy, but I soured on him big time when that whole Andrus thing happened. And then he pretty much did the same thing when we signed Beltre. Add in the fact that he has no glove, no speed, and now no bat (although it wouldn't surprise me if he rebounded somewhat next year), and I am more than happy to see him gone. Wish we could've sent Ron Washington with him.

Advanced fielding metrics have Young as a negative glove at 3B during his last two full seasons there (2009-2010).

Calling Young a negative glove at 3B puts it kindly how bad he is over there. Absolutely 0 range. On a hard it ball, it's pretty much move your body out of the way, close your eyes, and take a blind stab at the ball.

With that said, they can put Ruff in at LF everyday.

 

[shadyridr]

Didnt think id see the day another team had a higher payroll than the yanks. Also dodgers have highest payroll in history of sports. Even soccer

 

[Dr. Awesome]

If the Dodgers don't sign Ryu they're expected to make a push for Anibal Sanchez. Kershaw, Greinke, Billingsley, Beckett, Lilly, Capuano, Harang, and Ryu or Sanchez?

While Greinke did not get a no trade clause, he can opt out of the contract at the end of any season in which he gets traded. He can also opt out of the deal after 3 years no matter what.

Rangers and Blue Jays now looking into acquiring Dickey. Seeing a knuckleballer pitch in Texas would be interesting to watch.