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*** Official 2012 San Diego Chargers **** (1 Viewer)

Now if they would just put the damn lightning bolts back where they belong! :angry:

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I'm not much of a uniform guy but I agree with you. The "1" and "7" also looks terrible on the "not good" link. Of course, my opinion is in the minority since I think the darker the blue the better. I also like the Bengals uniform and most people hate those.
 
Biggest game of the season this week.

I think SD has a great shot in this game, they are favorites but just barely. It it were being played on a neutral field den would be favored and I really don't understand that. People seem desperate to announce Manning is back but I'd love to see his QB rating when den is within a TD of their opponent. The donkeys were down 27-7 in the 4th quarter vs ATL, 31-11 in the 4th quarter at home to HOU, and 31-7 very late in the 3rd quarter vs NE. Seems to me most of Mannings production has come after the donk's are 3 scores down or in a home game vs the hapless raiders where they kept passing despite being up by several scores.

Manning is 36yo and 2-3 with den. He's replacing a 25yo Tebow that was 7-4 in regular season starts last year with a playoff victory.

 
Biggest game of the season this week.

I think SD has a great shot in this game, they are favorites but just barely. It it were being played on a neutral field den would be favored and I really don't understand that. People seem desperate to announce Manning is back but I'd love to see his QB rating when den is within a TD of their opponent. The donkeys were down 27-7 in the 4th quarter vs ATL, 31-11 in the 4th quarter at home to HOU, and 31-7 very late in the 3rd quarter vs NE. Seems to me most of Mannings production has come after the donk's are 3 scores down or in a home game vs the hapless raiders where they kept passing despite being up by several scores.

Manning is 36yo and 2-3 with den. He's replacing a 25yo Tebow that was 7-4 in regular season starts last year with a playoff victory.
On the bolded, Manning's QB rating this season when Denver is behind by 1-8 points is 128.6. :mellow:
 
Now if they would just put the damn lightning bolts back where they belong! :angry:

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I'm not much of a uniform guy but I agree with you. The "1" and "7" also looks terrible on the "not good" link. Of course, my opinion is in the minority since I think the darker the blue the better. I also like the Bengals uniform and most people hate those.
I like the old school numbers too, but I can see why they changed them to look more lightning-bolty.However, sideways lightning bolts looks ridiculous.

 
Biggest game of the season this week.

I think SD has a great shot in this game, they are favorites but just barely. It it were being played on a neutral field den would be favored and I really don't understand that. People seem desperate to announce Manning is back but I'd love to see his QB rating when den is within a TD of their opponent. The donkeys were down 27-7 in the 4th quarter vs ATL, 31-11 in the 4th quarter at home to HOU, and 31-7 very late in the 3rd quarter vs NE. Seems to me most of Mannings production has come after the donk's are 3 scores down or in a home game vs the hapless raiders where they kept passing despite being up by several scores.

Manning is 36yo and 2-3 with den. He's replacing a 25yo Tebow that was 7-4 in regular season starts last year with a playoff victory.
On the bolded, Manning's QB rating this season when Denver is behind by 1-8 points is 128.6. :mellow:
Wow, thanks for finding that stat!(I have no idea where to even look)That's shocking... I wonder how they keep falling behind by 3 TD's if that's the case. Very odd. It has seemed to me they get completely buried and then when the defenses, understandably, loosen up Manning brings them back(sort of) and the story of the game is den fell just short when in reality most of the game den wasn't really in the game.

Thanks again for following that up.

 
Biggest game of the season this week.

I think SD has a great shot in this game, they are favorites but just barely. It it were being played on a neutral field den would be favored and I really don't understand that. People seem desperate to announce Manning is back but I'd love to see his QB rating when den is within a TD of their opponent. The donkeys were down 27-7 in the 4th quarter vs ATL, 31-11 in the 4th quarter at home to HOU, and 31-7 very late in the 3rd quarter vs NE. Seems to me most of Mannings production has come after the donk's are 3 scores down or in a home game vs the hapless raiders where they kept passing despite being up by several scores.

Manning is 36yo and 2-3 with den. He's replacing a 25yo Tebow that was 7-4 in regular season starts last year with a playoff victory.
On the bolded, Manning's QB rating this season when Denver is behind by 1-8 points is 128.6. :mellow:
Wow, thanks for finding that stat!(I have no idea where to even look)That's shocking... I wonder how they keep falling behind by 3 TD's if that's the case. Very odd. It has seemed to me they get completely buried and then when the defenses, understandably, loosen up Manning brings them back(sort of) and the story of the game is den fell just short when in reality most of the game den wasn't really in the game.

Thanks again for following that up.
I meant to link it. ESPN player pages have split stats, and that's where I got it.
 
Manning is 36yo and 2-3 with den. He's replacing a 25yo Tebow that was 7-4 in regular season starts last year with a playoff victory.
That is a distorted way of looking at it. Two of the three losses so far have been to Houston and Atlanta (two 5-0 teams), and the other was to New England, who will likely win 12 games, give or take. The Broncos are better than their 2-3 record.
 
Huge game tonight......having a nervous feeling it may not end well especially if they can't get some real good pressure on Manning

 
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The play calling was abysmal. I am not sure they ever threw on first down. It was hand the ball to Matthews facing a 7 or 8 man front. Then when he got his 1-4 yards, against an opponent who had figured that out, half the time they'd hand it to him again. Then, on third and long, they'd bring in Brown and think about throwing a pass. When Rivers threw short passes, he was pretty effective. The long ones, not so much.

 
Want to find the root of the Chargers’ recent troubles? Start at the top

By Doug Farrar | Shutdown Corner Link

Many will blame head coach Norv Turner for the San Diego Chargers' Monday night collapse against the Denver Broncos, and that's fair enough. Some will blame quarterback Philip Rivers, and that's more than fair. When you throw four interceptions and give up two fumbles, and three of those picks come in the fourth quarter, it makes your opponent's rebound from a 24-point deficit, as the Denver Broncos engineered in their 35-24 win, that much easier. An equal share of blame could be set at the feet of the Chargers' defense, which makes sense -- no team scores 35 unanswered points in a second half, though it certainly looked at times like the Broncos were the only team on the field.

But if you want the root cause of the Chargers' decline, both in this game and over the last few years, you need look no further than the desk of Executive Vice-President and general manager A.J. Smith. Under Smith, who's been in charge of personnel for the team since 2003, the Chargers haven't made the playoffs since 2009, and the records have receded every year -- from 13-3 in 2009, to 9-7 in 2010, to 8-8 in 2011. San Diego stands at 3-3 after their loss to the Broncos, and they don't look like a team that will finish this year with a .500 record or better.

The answer to the obvious question -- why has this happened? -- can be found with just a cursory look at Smith's track record in the last few seasons. His last few drafts have provided little in terms of long-term elite talent, he's alienated many of the team's best free agents and veterans, and the inexplicable arrogance (it's only confidence if it works) in the face of his own questionable decisions defies logic at times.

When asked to explain the second-round choice of Michigan linebacker Jonas Mouton in the 2011 NFL Draft despite the fact that most people had Mouton with a third-day grade, Smith was typically succinct.

"I'm told I can't find one person who thought the linebacker we took in the second round wasn't a fifth- or sixth-round guy," he told Nick Canepa of the San Diego Union-Tribune. "Well, I've found one guy. Me. He's a second rounder here."

Sadly, Mouton had his first season wiped out by a shoulder injury, but he still hasn't started a single NFL game. Smith's frequent trade-ups in the draft so decimated the team's depth that in 2010, the Chargers posted the worst special teams DVOA (Football Outsiders' efficiency metric) since the 2000 Buffalo Bills. Special teams is about more than punters, kickers, and returners -- often, it's the best indicator of the talent residing on the bottom third of your roster.

In many ways, Smith's last few years with the Chargers seem similar to the decline and fall of the recent Indianapolis Colts empire. Like Smith, former Colts team president Bill Polian had a justified and legitimate reputation in the league based on the brilliant personnel work he'd done in the past. But a series of bad drafts, and the ultimate ideal that the man up top was more important than most of the guys on the field, set the Colts on the wrong path and closed their window before it had to be. The loss of Peyton Manning to injury was a killer, but the alarming lack of depth on the roster Polian had built really led to the Colts' demise. The 2008 New England Patriots went 11-5 without Tom Brady; the 2011 Colts went 2-14 without Manning.

Now, ask yourself -- how would the 2012 Chargers do without Rivers? The second half of this game showed us to a great degree. Another question -- where did Smith get his formerly impressive personnel acumen? With Polian, as the two men worked together to build the Buffalo Bills teams that went to four straight Super Bowls in the early 1990s.

Like Polian, Smith used to have the personnel equivalent of a 95-mile-per-hour fastball with movement. And like Polian at the end, there's an increasing sense that Smith is trying to get by with junk these days.

"Well, that's obviously as tough as it gets," a disheveled Turner said after the game. "Right now, we're not able to put together a complete game. At halftime, we talked about the things we had to do in the second half -- who you're playing against, and their style of offense. You know they're going to make some plays. Obviously, the mistakes we made with the ball just added to their energy. The group we have together in the locker room -- they haven't been together for a long time, but they're a resilient group. A lot of people will say, 'How will these guys respond from this?' or 'These guys can't respond from this,' but I have a lot of faith in this group.

"There's a lot of things we have to get fixed before we can play a complete game. And if someone wants to look around and make this about somebody, make it about me. I've got a lot of faith in the guys playing for us."

 
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'Gr00vus said:
So, can we blow this thing up yet?
Dont think the Spanos have a choice now, another come from ahead defeat, its not working the team has regressed and so has the franchise QB, who cant get out of his own way.
I can't believe Clary is still the starting right tackle. He was responsible for Rivers getting hit, fumbling and having the entire game turn around. And ultimately that's on Smith for continuing to ignore doing anything proactive about the offensive line for years, wasting the bulk of Rivers's prime. He needs to go and Norv needs to go with him.
 
'tommyGunZ said:
Step away from the ledge folks. The sun will come out, tomorrow.
How many years do we have to keep buying this story?
this will be the 3rd year in a row of missing the playoffs. time to clean house, start over and dare I say draft the QB of the future?
Obviously, I'm a big Rivers fan, so I'm biased. That said, while Rivers isn't playing well, QB is far down the priority list. Rivers is not so old that they can't rebuild around him.They need to overhaul the offensive line and they need upgrades at CB. The WR corps also looks pretty weak, but having just invested in Brown, Floyd, Meachem, and Royal, it's hard to see them doing much there.

IMO they should spend every draft pick next year on OLs and DBs.

 
'tommyGunZ said:
Step away from the ledge folks. The sun will come out, tomorrow.
How many years do we have to keep buying this story?
this will be the 3rd year in a row of missing the playoffs. time to clean house, start over and dare I say draft the QB of the future?
Obviously, I'm a big Rivers fan, so I'm biased. That said, while Rivers isn't playing well, QB is far down the priority list. Rivers is not so old that they can't rebuild around him.They need to overhaul the offensive line and they need upgrades at CB. The WR corps also looks pretty weak, but having just invested in Brown, Floyd, Meachem, and Royal, it's hard to see them doing much there.

IMO they should spend every draft pick next year on OLs and DBs.
JWB, he seems to have lost "it". His deep ball just dont have it anymore. While I understand that QB isnt a priority and they wont be drafting high enough to get an impact guy, the time is coming to address the spot.

 
'tommyGunZ said:
Step away from the ledge folks. The sun will come out, tomorrow.
How many years do we have to keep buying this story?
this will be the 3rd year in a row of missing the playoffs. time to clean house, start over and dare I say draft the QB of the future?
Obviously, I'm a big Rivers fan, so I'm biased. That said, while Rivers isn't playing well, QB is far down the priority list. Rivers is not so old that they can't rebuild around him.They need to overhaul the offensive line and they need upgrades at CB. The WR corps also looks pretty weak, but having just invested in Brown, Floyd, Meachem, and Royal, it's hard to see them doing much there.

IMO they should spend every draft pick next year on OLs and DBs.
JWB, he seems to have lost "it". His deep ball just dont have it anymore. While I understand that QB isnt a priority and they wont be drafting high enough to get an impact guy, the time is coming to address the spot.
Again, I realize I am biased in favor of Rivers, but I'd rank the Chargers problems in this order:1. A.J. Smith

2. Norv Turner

3. OL

4. Injuries (Gaither, Mathews, Gates, Vincent Brown)

5. CB

6. WR

7. Pass rush

8. Rivers

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One might argue the order here, but the simple fact is that all of these are significant problems. When your GM, head coach, entire offense except the RBs, and entire pass defense are all performing poorly, and with some key injuries on top of that, I don't see how you can really say QB is enough of a problem that it's time to expend resources on it.

Worst case, even if Rivers needs to be replaced, it would be better to try to fix the other problem areas first so a new QB can walk into a situation with a better chance to succeed.

 
Do you consider trading Rivers at this point? I don't think they're going to win a Super Bowl with him.
whose a contender that needs a QB? Arizona? Buffalo? (buddy nix!!!) Philadelphia?
Right now I guess AZ would be the logical partner. But at the point you're thinking about dealing Rivers, you don't have to rush in to anything, you could wait until the offseason as well. Also at the point you're trading Rivers, you're not really concerned with who's going to play QB right now - you're basically saying you're starting over and your next franchise QB isn't on the roster yet. If you bring in a new GM and a new coaching staff, I think I'd give them leeway to deal Rivers if the think they can get a good haul in return. The likelihood of actually finding someone to give you a good enough haul - :shrug: .
 
Can't believe how quickly some of you folks are turning on Philip. Guy is 30, and has 6-8 good years left, since his quick release and cerebral approach means he can play into his late 30s.

At halftime last night, the Bolts looked extremely strong and on the way to 4-2, with a 2 game lead in the AFC West, in an extremely weak AFC. A poor half and you guys are ready to deal Rivers?

Insane.

 
Can't believe how quickly some of you folks are turning on Philip. Guy is 30, and has 6-8 good years left, since his quick release and cerebral approach means he can play into his late 30s.At halftime last night, the Bolts looked extremely strong and on the way to 4-2, with a 2 game lead in the AFC West, in an extremely weak AFC. A poor half and you guys are ready to deal Rivers?Insane.
I think Rivers is still pretty good. I just think this team needs a new start, they're not going anywhere as currently run and constructed, and I think Rivers might benefit from a change of scenery. Seems like if you're going to actually rebuild (instead of this nebulous drifting the Chargers have been doing for the last 3 or so years), Rivers would be an asset that could get you jump started on that if that's the direction you're going. Then again maybe a regime change would do the trick for him. Norv certainly seems clueless as to how to help Rivers out given the personnel problems they've got. The 2nd half of last night was a litany of idiotic play calls. It's like once the Broncos adjusted to take Gates away, Norv was all out of ideas. Hard for Rivers to succeed in a situation like that - and he's not helping himself much either with some of the decisions he's making.
 
'tommyGunZ said:
Can't believe how quickly some of you folks are turning on Philip. Guy is 30, and has 6-8 good years left, since his quick release and cerebral approach means he can play into his late 30s.At halftime last night, the Bolts looked extremely strong and on the way to 4-2, with a 2 game lead in the AFC West, in an extremely weak AFC. A poor half and you guys are ready to deal Rivers?Insane.
How did that game turn out? Also, it bears repeating that, except for the drive at the end of the half that made it 24-0, the SD offense didn't do much the first half either. In two games against good teams this year, Atlanta and Denver, the Chargers offense has not looked good. I am not saying the Chargers should ditch Rivers, but the guy is clearly not the QB he used to be. That is obvious to most. From 2008-2010, he threw 92 touchdowns and 33 interceptions, leading the league in YPA all three seasons. But since the start of 2011, he has thrown 37 touchdowns and 29 interceptions, with his YPA way down (he is 22nd this year, currently). Not saying things beyond his control aren't a factor, but there has been a clear drop-off in his play, and the eyeball test shows that quite clearly as well.
 
'tommyGunZ said:
Can't believe how quickly some of you folks are turning on Philip. Guy is 30, and has 6-8 good years left, since his quick release and cerebral approach means he can play into his late 30s.At halftime last night, the Bolts looked extremely strong and on the way to 4-2, with a 2 game lead in the AFC West, in an extremely weak AFC. A poor half and you guys are ready to deal Rivers?Insane.
then what happened tommy???Rivers has regressed, big time. He cannot keep making these stupid mental mistakes. he just cant, no team can over come 6 turnovers.
 
Very disappointing defeat, mostly because of Rivers and Turner. I would have thought Turner would have concentrated on the run game since he got away from it in NO and it burned him.

If they had been beaten by a better team that would be one thing but this bronco squad is just as mediocre as SD and there is no excuse to losing in the fashion they did. I guess somebody has to win this division and since none of the AFC West team are going to win games outside the division(4-11 vs the rest of the league) these games within the division are twice as important. The only teams the AFC West has beaten are PIT(2-3), TEN(2-4), and NO(1-4) so I'm not even sure if it matters at this point.

I'm with tommy, there are plenty of things to fix on this team before you get to the QB position. I certainly wouldn't trade the SD QB situation for any other in the division. I've been a Norv defender for a long time but his stubborn refusal to run the ball is now almost as frustrating as AJ's stubborn refusal to acquire any offensive linemen year after year.

 
Buh Bye Nate, thanks for sucking when it mattered most.
They're doing him a favor - this team is circling the bowl. Then again ...
"I envisioned myself ...helping kick the team into playoffs, having a great playoffs and going to the Super Bowl."
... maybe his release was related to recreational drug use.Surprised they couldn't patch his leg up with the stickum.
 
Buh Bye Nate, thanks for sucking when it mattered most.
They're doing him a favor - this team is circling the bowl. Then again ...
"I envisioned myself ...helping kick the team into playoffs, having a great playoffs and going to the Super Bowl."
... maybe his release was related to recreational drug use.Surprised they couldn't patch his leg up with the stickum.
So now the eli for rivers trade is pretty much, eli for rivers? God you suck AJ smith
 
So now the eli for rivers trade is pretty much, eli for rivers? God you suck AJ smith
Eli refused to play for the franchise. There's plenty of decisions you can blame AJ for, making that trade is not one of them. People tend to forget that when SD was a SB contender Merriman was a defensive MVP candidate. That trade was one of the biggest reasons they got as far as the AFC championship game. If Tomlinson/Rivers would have been healthy for that game... who knows? The Patriots may have been upset one game earlier.
 
Buh Bye Nate, thanks for sucking when it mattered most.
They're doing him a favor - this team is circling the bowl. Then again ...
"I envisioned myself ...helping kick the team into playoffs, having a great playoffs and going to the Super Bowl."
... maybe his release was related to recreational drug use.Surprised they couldn't patch his leg up with the stickum.
So now the eli for rivers trade is pretty much, eli for rivers? God you suck AJ smith
Merriman's great seasons don't stop counting just because they're in the past. Otherwise, the Herschel Walker trade to the Vikings would have to be considered a total wash at this point.
 
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Buh Bye Nate, thanks for sucking when it mattered most.
They're doing him a favor - this team is circling the bowl. Then again ...
"I envisioned myself ...helping kick the team into playoffs, having a great playoffs and going to the Super Bowl."
... maybe his release was related to recreational drug use.Surprised they couldn't patch his leg up with the stickum.
So now the eli for rivers trade is pretty much, eli for rivers? God you suck AJ smith
Merriman's great seasons don't stop counting just because they're in the past. Otherwise, the Herschel Walker trade to the Vikings would have to be considered a total wash at this point.
the guy was a cheater, was nothing without the juice. True he had some great seasons but he scrubbed out badly, the all pro kicker that couldnt make a clutch kick to save his life just got cut. Sproles, Vjax, Brees, Norv, not addressing the Oline, AJ's issues go on and on. he's had enough chances.
 
the guy was a cheater, was nothing without the juice. True he had some great seasons but he scrubbed out badly, the all pro kicker that couldnt make a clutch kick to save his life just got cut.

Sproles, Vjax, Brees, Norv, not addressing the Oline, AJ's issues go on and on. he's had enough chances.
That's bull #### spewed by ignorant fans, and there's no shortage of those, and you know it. It's right up there with "Remember that game where they sat Gates and that knocked them out of the playoffs!". Stupid statements made by stupid people. You are a better poster than that.I agree with you, AJ has had plenty of opportunities to fix the line and has chosen not to even try. I guess we disagree in that Sproles, Vjax and Brees wouldn't have helped the blocking one bit imo and that's the glaring component this team has lacked for a few years now, blocking. Put Rivers behind a good OL with 600+ attempts every season and everyone would be asking how on earth AJ let Rivers get away.

 
the guy was a cheater, was nothing without the juice. True he had some great seasons but he scrubbed out badly, the all pro kicker that couldnt make a clutch kick to save his life just got cut.

Sproles, Vjax, Brees, Norv, not addressing the Oline, AJ's issues go on and on. he's had enough chances.
That's bull #### spewed by ignorant fans, and there's no shortage of those, and you know it. It's right up there with "Remember that game where they sat Gates and that knocked them out of the playoffs!". Stupid statements made by stupid people. You are a better poster than that.I agree with you, AJ has had plenty of opportunities to fix the line and has chosen not to even try. I guess we disagree in that Sproles, Vjax and Brees wouldn't have helped the blocking one bit imo and that's the glaring component this team has lacked for a few years now, blocking. Put Rivers behind a good OL with 600+ attempts every season and everyone would be asking how on earth AJ let Rivers get away.
Just mostly venting BB, Im pretty sick of this norv and AJ pony show. two come from ahead defeats leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

Still merriman, while he was dominate wasnt the same after being suspended

 
Will The Chargers Overlook A 1-6 Cleveland Team?October 26, 2012 8:50 AMBy Dave ThomasWhile the San Diego Chargers have had their struggles over the last couple of weeks, it has pretty much been business as usual for the Cleveland Browns.As a team that has never made it to the Super Bowl, the Cleveland Browns this season have pretty much done what people thought they would do — lose. With a lone win over division rival Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago, the Browns sit dead last in the AFC North with a mark of 1-6.trent richardson 1 Will The Chargers Overlook A 1 6 Cleveland Team?Credit, Alex Trautwig/Getty ImagesSo, is there any way possible that the Chargers could go into Cleveland this weekend for their 10 a.m. (PT) date with the Browns and actually lose?Yes, that is always a possibility, but the Bolts know that doing just that will have a major impact on their ability to win the AFC West two months from now.While San Diego (3-3) needs a win to right the ship and get a positive taste back in its mouth, Cleveland would probably just be happy to say they beat someone else besides the Bengals.Browns In Familiar Role In AFC NorthComing into the season, there was tempered hope that the Browns might be able to make some noise in the tough AFC North, but through seven weeks, it appears rather obvious that the division going to be a two- or three-team race, at best.Given the excitement of former Alabama star running back Trent Richardson coming out of college a year early and landing in Cleveland’s lap as the number three overall pick last April, hopes were that he could be the offensive piece of the pie to build around. While Richardson has rushed for nearly 348 yards and four TD’s this season, he might miss this game or be limited due to a rib injury.If Richardson does not play, the pressure will be turned up on quarterback Brandon Weeden, who has not exactly lit the NFL on fire through seven games (72.3 passer rating, 10 TD’s, nine INT’s). That being said, the rookie QB has gained praised from the coaching staff recently, especially with his ability to take more command of the offense as the season progresses.“I think that’s leadership, being able to exert himself more, to encourage the other players, but also be willing to get on them a little bit and do it in a way that makes sense and when I say ‘makes sense,’ I mean fits that player’s personality,” Browns coach Pat Shurmur told ClevelandBrowns.com this week. “I’ve seen the interaction he’s had with the receivers. Within his personality, it fits Brandon.”On defense, the Browns will turn to a unit that leads the conference with 10 interceptions and is in the battle for conference supremacy in the sack department (18). Defensive back Buster Skrine leads Cleveland with 49 tackles (43), while linebacker Craig Robertson and defensive back T.J. Ward have been in on 47 and 41 tackles, respectively.Unless both teams decide to not play much defense and light up the scoreboard, look for a low-scoring game, one that could come down to the feet of field goal kickers Nick Novak or Phil Dawson.San Diego leads the all-time series against Cleveland 14-7-1, winning in the last encounter 30-23 in 2009.
 
Just curious how homer fans feel about the San Diego Super Charger DST.

Seems like a lot of favorable matchups ROS:

8 Sun Oct 28 1:00 pm at Cleveland Browns

9 Thu Nov 1 8:20 pm Kansas City Chiefs

10 Sun Nov 11 1:00 pm at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11 Sun Nov 18 4:25 pm at Denver Broncos

12 Sun Nov 25 4:05 pm Baltimore Ravens

13 Sun Dec 2 4:25 pm Cincinnati Bengals

14 Sun Dec 9 1:00 pm at Pittsburgh Steelers

15 Sun Dec 16 4:05 pm Carolina Panthers

16 Sun Dec 23 8:20 pm at New York Jets *

17 Sun Dec 30 4:25 pm Oakland Raiders
Thoughts?
 
'BobbyLayne said:
Just curious how homer fans feel about the San Diego Super Charger DST.

Seems like a lot of favorable matchups ROS:

8 Sun Oct 28 1:00 pm at Cleveland Browns

9 Thu Nov 1 8:20 pm Kansas City Chiefs

10 Sun Nov 11 1:00 pm at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11 Sun Nov 18 4:25 pm at Denver Broncos

12 Sun Nov 25 4:05 pm Baltimore Ravens

13 Sun Dec 2 4:25 pm Cincinnati Bengals

14 Sun Dec 9 1:00 pm at Pittsburgh Steelers

15 Sun Dec 16 4:05 pm Carolina Panthers

16 Sun Dec 23 8:20 pm at New York Jets *

17 Sun Dec 30 4:25 pm Oakland Raiders
Thoughts?
Dont do it.then again I thought Minnesota has been good enough and a "no brainer" this week

 
Richardson is going to run all over this defense tomorrow. :(
Did they move the game because Frankenstorm will the taking a hard left up the Erie Canal?He just might, he's had three straight days of practice, feels better this Friday than last Friday.

Still, they seem middle of the road in the run D department:

McFadden OAK 1 W 22-14 (a) 15-32-0 18 13-86-0 24.8

Reece OAK 1 W 22-14 (a) 1-0-0 2 2-20-0 4.0

Goodson OAK 1 W 22-14 (a) 2-13-0 0 0-0-0 1.3

Johnson TEN 2 W 38-10 (h) 8-17-0 3 2-11-0 4.8

Rodgers ATL 3 L 3-27 (h) 10-32-0 5 5-35-1 17.7

Turner ATL 3 L 3-27 (h) 14-80-1 2 2-1-0 16.1

Snelling ATL 3 L 3-27 (h) 1-3-0 1 1-12-0 2.5

Charles KC 4 W 37-20 (a) 17-92-1 4 3-23-1 22.5

Draughn KC 4 W 37-20 (a) 4-12-0 5 4-34-0 6.6

Gray KC 4 W 37-20 (a) 1-15-0 1 0-0-0 1.5

Thomas NO 5 L 24-31 (a) 9-30-0 2 2-40-0 9.0

Sproles NO 5 L 24-31 (a) 5-9-0 7 5-28-0 8.7

Ingram NO 5 L 24-31 (a) 5-16-0 0 0-0-0 1.6

McGahee DEN 6 L 24-35 (h) 17-56-0 5 4-42-0 13.8

Hillman DEN 6 L 24-35 (h) 2-3-0 0 0-0-0 0.3
They've faced good backs almost every week and haven't been torched by any of them.You guys do realize a good FF DST may OR may not translate into a IRL defense?

 
To summarize, then - and correct me if I'm off base here - the Chargers are around 3rd in the AFC for scoring defense. They are 2nd in the entire NFL for run defense (1 yard behind the Bears), and have given up 2 TDs on the ground through 6 games. Their pass defense is average (19th in yards allowed, and they have allowed 14 TDs), while they have a below average pass rush (10 sacks).

The 2nd half schedule has some great matchups - I'm really liking them at home for that TNF divisonal game - but the consensus is avoid?

Appreciate it guys. I know some in TSP poo poo asking for homer advice in the age of the innerwebs, but the only game I saw was meltdown against the Broncos. Nothing beats hearing from the fans who watch tem every week.

 
Think I mentioned it on another thread, but the DST will continue to be inconsistent unless the offense can stop turning the ball over at the alarming rate that they have. Doesn't matter how good a defense is if they keep giving the opposition short fields and have to keep coming back in after turnovers time and time again. The defense is built around stopping the run, which is why they have been excellent this year in that department (aside from the 40 yarder that Charles had on a ridiculously awesome broken play run). Most die hards are hoping that the return of Shareece Wright will help out the secondary and hopefully replace Cason at CB. At least that's the dream we had in the preseason when he looked like a legit playmaking CB. Anyways....here's hoping the offense stops being complete dog #### this week.

 
How big of a joke is the AFC West right now, wow? Chiefs and Raiders are atrocious. Chargers are the biggest underachievers ever and Denver I guess is pretty good now. Still shocked Norv was brought back for this year. He is absolutely the worst head coach in pro sports.

 
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How big of a joke is the AFC West right now, wow? Chiefs and Raiders are atrocious. Chargers are the biggest underachievers ever and Denver I guess is pretty good now. Still shocked Norv was brought back for this year. He is absolutely the worst head coach in pro sports.
thanks for the update
 

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