*** Official 2013 Packers Off Season Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Tony Jabroni]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

He can't be any worse than what we've had as a running game the last X number of years. I don't see how this is anything but a huge plus. Lacy? In the second round? Once supposedly the top back in the draft? C'mon.

If I remember correctly, there was one other guy who kept falling and the Packers finally picked him up. What was his name again?

EXACTLY.

 

[spreagle]

Rodgers will have a stack of chips glued to his shoulder when he shakes hands with Lacy.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

He can't be any worse than what we've had as a running game the last X number of years. I don't see how this is anything but a huge plus. Lacy? In the second round? Once supposedly the top back in the draft? C'mon.

If I remember correctly, there was one other guy who kept falling and the Packers finally picked him up. What was his name again?

EXACTLY.

Exactly? We're equating him with A-Rod just because he was highly rated and fell?I guess we should have drafted Geno Smith too. This is just stupid logic. It's perfectly acceptable to be excited about Lacy - just don't use such idiotic logic to support your view.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Will be fun watching him run late in the season, perhaps at home in late December and January.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

I made a hobby of ripping TT for several years. So many moves seemed maddening to me. Then we won the Super Bowl. I stopped.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Will be fun watching him run late in the season, perhaps at home in late December and January.

Very much hope so. And you're right - TT is a fantastic GM, so he deserves the benefit of the doubt. That said, I still can't stand AJ Hawk continuing to be on the roster......TT seems to have a blind spot for him....

 

[Kleck]

That's why I was glad TT passed on Lacy in the 1st. Great BPA pick. Ted owns it again.

 

[Pipes]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago. When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did. Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

I've watch a bunch of Alabama games. Lacey has good size and vision and usually run hard. Yes he had a great oline in front of him but he was also going against top flight SEC defenses every week. I didn't want him in the first but at the end of the 2nd round I'm completely fine with it. A slightly more athletic Benson isnt the worst thing in the world since he was a top 10 pick and the Pack have a lot less invested in Lacey.For the record who did you want GB to draft in the 2nd?

 

[Pipes]

Will be fun watching him run late in the season, perhaps at home in late December and January.

Very much hope so. And you're right - TT is a fantastic GM, so he deserves the benefit of the doubt. That said, I still can't stand AJ Hawk continuing to be on the roster......TT seems to have a blind spot for him....

This i will agree with you 100 % on. Hawk is far and away my most hated Packer. Guy is great jumping into the pile or tackling guys 10 yards downfield.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago. When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did. Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

I've watch a bunch of Alabama games. Lacey has good size and vision and usually run hard. Yes he had a great oline in front of him but he was also going against top flight SEC defenses every week. I didn't want him in the first but at the end of the 2nd round I'm completely fine with it. A slightly more athletic Benson isnt the worst thing in the world since he was a top 10 pick and the Pack have a lot less invested in Lacey.For the record who did you want GB to draft in the 2nd?

Would have preferred they didn't trade down, instead drafting Brown at LB. Thought that was a better player in the late 2nd.Very much hope to be wrong about Lacy. Wasn't terribly impressed with his moves, but agree he has good vision. Just looks like he's stuck in quicksand when making moves.

 

[Balco]

And I will also say I am hoping I am 100% wrong on Lacy.

I just don't believe his running style translates well to the pros. Guy is going to destroyed with that upright style, and the holes will be a lot smaller so his lack of initial burst is going to hurt him badly. Again, I hope I am wrong, but there is a handful of backs I would want over Lacy.

 

[smackdaddies]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago. When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did. Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

Why? Best running back from thr best college conference? Could be that

 

[sho nuff]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago.

When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did.

Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

And how many guys went ahead of Alfred Morris and Doug Martin?

I think the "x" guys went ahead of him line is a bit overrated.

The reality is...he is actually quite talented...and lands in a good spot.

BTW...slightly more athletic than Cedric Benson is not all that bad (and I think its more than slightly)...Benson has not exactly had a terrible career.

 

[sho nuff]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

He can't be any worse than what we've had as a running game the last X number of years. I don't see how this is anything but a huge plus. Lacy? In the second round? Once supposedly the top back in the draft? C'mon.

If I remember correctly, there was one other guy who kept falling and the Packers finally picked him up. What was his name again?

EXACTLY.

Exactly? We're equating him with A-Rod just because he was highly rated and fell?I guess we should have drafted Geno Smith too. This is just stupid logic. It's perfectly acceptable to be excited about Lacy - just don't use such idiotic logic to support your view.

No more idiotic then 60 guys went ahead of him logic.

 

[sho nuff]

Will be fun watching him run late in the season, perhaps at home in late December and January.

Very much hope so. And you're right - TT is a fantastic GM, so he deserves the benefit of the doubt. That said, I still can't stand AJ Hawk continuing to be on the roster......TT seems to have a blind spot for him....

As do scouts and others who rate him higher than fans do.

 

[sho nuff]

And after that little hipple the Pack looks done for the night after trading out of the 3rd...picked up a 4th and a 5th from Miami (but not even their highest picks in those rounds).

Interesting move there...

 

[MaxThreshold]

Packers have 10 picks tomorrow due to TT trading down. Awesome.

Two in the fourth, three in the fifth, two in the sixth and three in the seventh.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago. When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did. Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

I've watch a bunch of Alabama games. Lacey has good size and vision and usually run hard. Yes he had a great oline in front of him but he was also going against top flight SEC defenses every week. I didn't want him in the first but at the end of the 2nd round I'm completely fine with it. A slightly more athletic Benson isnt the worst thing in the world since he was a top 10 pick and the Pack have a lot less invested in Lacey.For the record who did you want GB to draft in the 2nd?

Would have preferred they didn't trade down, instead drafting Brown at LB. Thought that was a better player in the late 2nd.Very much hope to be wrong about Lacy. Wasn't terribly impressed with his moves, but agree he has good vision. Just looks like he's stuck in quicksand when making moves.

Sorry, Alex, but my sense tells me TT sees something you don't. In this case, I'll take TT over you.

Can't believe you're even questioning TT in the first place. Shame. Shame on you Alex P. Keaton.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

He can't be any worse than what we've had as a running game the last X number of years. I don't see how this is anything but a huge plus. Lacy? In the second round? Once supposedly the top back in the draft? C'mon.

If I remember correctly, there was one other guy who kept falling and the Packers finally picked him up. What was his name again?

EXACTLY.

Exactly? We're equating him with A-Rod just because he was highly rated and fell?I guess we should have drafted Geno Smith too. This is just stupid logic. It's perfectly acceptable to be excited about Lacy - just don't use such idiotic logic to support your view.

No more idiotic then 60 guys went ahead of him logic.

Don't be a moron. You know that was directly addressing the logical gap of saying "he was the top-rated RB at one point."

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago. When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did. Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

I've watch a bunch of Alabama games. Lacey has good size and vision and usually run hard. Yes he had a great oline in front of him but he was also going against top flight SEC defenses every week. I didn't want him in the first but at the end of the 2nd round I'm completely fine with it. A slightly more athletic Benson isnt the worst thing in the world since he was a top 10 pick and the Pack have a lot less invested in Lacey.For the record who did you want GB to draft in the 2nd?

Would have preferred they didn't trade down, instead drafting Brown at LB. Thought that was a better player in the late 2nd.Very much hope to be wrong about Lacy. Wasn't terribly impressed with his moves, but agree he has good vision. Just looks like he's stuck in quicksand when making moves.

Sorry, Alex, but my sense tells me TT sees something you don't. In this case, I'll take TT over you.

Can't believe you're even questioning TT in the first place. Shame. Shame on you Alex P. Keaton.

Well played!! Everyone should take TT's view over mine! (I do too)

 

[Sabertooth]

Packers have 10 picks tomorrow due to TT trading down. Awesome.

Two in the fourth, three in the fifth, two in the sixth and three in the seventh.

Nice. Now he'll add some bodies to that offensive line. What is left out there for talent at this point? Any decent linebackers or wideouts? I still think he takes a pass catcher after losing two stalwarts in Jennings and Driver.

 

[Sabertooth]

I just hope Lacy can help them ice some games. Obviously he doesn't change the passing to score philosophy but it would be helpful to be able to grind the clock like they did back in the Ahman Green days. Lacy being a very good pass protector bodes well for his chances of becoming a true three down back even if he doesn't excel at pass catching.

 

[a_rackowski]

I dont think its too fair to say Lacy doesnt excel at catching the ball. He just wasnt used in that role much.

Id like to see the Packers find a way to get Jessie Williams with one of these 10 picks. While he is likely just a 2 down player, he would be a great eventual replacement for Ryan Pickett, who is still an anchor, but 33.

Packers seemed to love Quessenberry - so I am guessing they find a way to bag him. Also showed alot of interest in Kwame Geathers.

Maybe some competition for Crosby?

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Lacy concerns me for two reasons: 1) he was running behind a dominant line, and the Packers are far from it. 2) even on occassions where the aforementioned OL opened huge holes, Lacy would inevitably get caught 10-15 yards downfield.

That said, if he's healthy & strong enough to pound it for 4+ypc and can improve our short yardage conversions, I'm fine with the pick. As others have said, I was strongly against taking him in the 1st round. At the bottom of the 2nd, I'm ok with it (though a part of me would've preferred -- if the Packers were going to take a RB -- to take one with some more gamebreaking qualities).

 

[Kleck]

I wasn't a fan of taking Lacy in the first. Trading down in the 2nd and still getting him is a different story. TT is the master.

 

[sho nuff]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

He can't be any worse than what we've had as a running game the last X number of years. I don't see how this is anything but a huge plus. Lacy? In the second round? Once supposedly the top back in the draft? C'mon.

If I remember correctly, there was one other guy who kept falling and the Packers finally picked him up. What was his name again?

EXACTLY.

Exactly? We're equating him with A-Rod just because he was highly rated and fell?I guess we should have drafted Geno Smith too. This is just stupid logic. It's perfectly acceptable to be excited about Lacy - just don't use such idiotic logic to support your view.

No more idiotic then 60 guys went ahead of him logic.

Don't be a moron. You know that was directly addressing the logical gap of saying "he was the top-rated RB at one point."

Got it...if we don't agree with you...we are being morons with idiotic logic.

Thanks.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Got it...if we don't agree with you...we are being morons with idiotic logic.

Thanks.

Something like that. Let's get back to talking about how TT is a genius and how the Packers are going to repeat on the strength of this draft.

 

[Pipes]

Lacy concerns me for two reasons: 1) he was running behind a dominant line, and the Packers are far from it. 2) even on occassions where the aforementioned OL opened huge holes, Lacy would inevitably get caught 10-15 yards downfield. That said, if he's healthy & strong enough to pound it for 4+ypc and can improve our short yardage conversions, I'm fine with the pick. As others have said, I was strongly against taking him in the 1st round. At the bottom of the 2nd, I'm ok with it (though a part of me would've preferred -- if the Packers were going to take a RB -- to take one with some more gamebreaking qualities).

To address point 1 he did go up against top flight SEC defenses. It's not like he put up his yards against cupcakes.

 

[Kleck]

Game breaking qualities for the Packers could just be picking up more 3rd and shorts on the ground.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

He can't be any worse than what we've had as a running game the last X number of years. I don't see how this is anything but a huge plus. Lacy? In the second round? Once supposedly the top back in the draft? C'mon.

If I remember correctly, there was one other guy who kept falling and the Packers finally picked him up. What was his name again?

EXACTLY.

Exactly? We're equating him with A-Rod just because he was highly rated and fell?I guess we should have drafted Geno Smith too. This is just stupid logic. It's perfectly acceptable to be excited about Lacy - just don't use such idiotic logic to support your view.

You sound uptight.

 

[werdnoynek]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago.

When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did.

Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

Perhaps because we've seen him play football? Might want to take your own advise. Watch the tape. The tape is why many had him as a top 20 guy. Lacy is a perfect fit for the Packers. We need to establish a power game. He is the back to do it. Lacy is a guy who can come in and produce immediately for us. I have no idea why you continually talk down on this pick. Trust in Ted.

 

[Balco]

Would like one of the ten picks to be Trevardo Williams, OLB UCONN. Very surprised he is still on the board.

 

[Balco]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago. When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did. Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

Perhaps because we've seen him play football? Might want to take your own advise. Watch the tape. The tape is why many had him as a top 20 guy. Lacy is a perfect fit for the Packers. We need to establish a power game. He is the back to do it. Lacy is a guy who can come in and produce immediately for us. I have no idea why you continually talk down on this pick. Trust in Ted.

I have watched the tape. Not just highlights. I see a very good college back who gets dinged a lot, and whose running style doesn't translate well to the pros, I hope I am 100% wrong.

 

[KingPrawn]

Lacy concerns me for two reasons: 1) he was running behind a dominant line, and the Packers are far from it. 2) even on occassions where the aforementioned OL opened huge holes, Lacy would inevitably get caught 10-15 yards downfield.

That said, if he's healthy & strong enough to pound it for 4+ypc and can improve our short yardage conversions, I'm fine with the pick. As others have said, I was strongly against taking him in the 1st round. At the bottom of the 2nd, I'm ok with it (though a part of me would've preferred -- if the Packers were going to take a RB -- to take one with some more gamebreaking qualities).

I guess the same could be said for Trent Richardson last year.

 

[KingPrawn]

It's interesting to watch TT work.

Brings in Cedric Benson right before the draft. Could this have been a red herring to mask their intentions of taking a RB?

Cut Smith and Saine right before the draft. Possibly to make more room on the roster for the many draft picks he was going to trade down for and for rookie free agents. TT also likes his 7th round picks. He sees this as an extension of the rookie free agents. If he drafts them in the 7th he doesn't have to fight for them as free agents.

He's confident in his draft board that there will be a player available that he likes yet if he trades back 6 picks and picks up another draft pick. With both Ball and Lacy still on the board in round 2 good chance one would still be there if he traded back and picked up an extra pick.

Looking forward to Saturday and see what he does with the 10 picks. Still need depth at OL, DL, S, LB. Probably be a WR in the mix as well.

 

[Brides Maids]

Anyone think Luke Marquardt OT has a chance at being drafted by the Packers?

You'd think with his size alone he could have potential. Get him cheap and get him

coached correctly who knows maybe the Packers can get a diamond in the rough.

 

[sho nuff]

Got it...if we don't agree with you...we are being morons with idiotic logic.

Thanks.

Something like that. Let's get back to talking about how TT is a genius and how the Packers are going to repeat on the strength of this draft.

Great...let me find where anyone said anything like this.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I have watched the tape. Not just highlights. I see a very good college back who gets dinged a lot, and whose running style doesn't translate well to the pros, I hope I am 100% wrong.

I see the same thing as Balco. And as noted before, I really hope to be wrong.....as others have pointed out, TT has a great track record, so of course he deserves the benefit of the doubt. But that doesn't mean we all just have to put the homer blinders on and say "wow, amazing pick. TT is a ####### genius!!" Additionally, this continuation of logic that says "many had him as a top-20 guy" at some point becomes silly. The fact is that he was selected at #61. 10 teams passed on him in the 20s, another 10 in the 30s, etc. How many teams really had him as top-20 if he was picked #61?

Likely reality: lots of folks wanted him in the late 20s, so those same folks are ecstatic to get him at #61. I get that.

Balco and I didn't want him in the late 20s and preferred other RBs. Thus we aren't ecstatic to get him at #61. And it's ok that we don't all agree.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

It's interesting to watch TT work.

Brings in Cedric Benson right before the draft. Could this have been a red herring to mask their intentions of taking a RB?

Cut Smith and Saine right before the draft. Possibly to make more room on the roster for the many draft picks he was going to trade down for and for rookie free agents. TT also likes his 7th round picks. He sees this as an extension of the rookie free agents. If he drafts them in the 7th he doesn't have to fight for them as free agents.

He's confident in his draft board that there will be a player available that he likes yet if he trades back 6 picks and picks up another draft pick. With both Ball and Lacy still on the board in round 2 good chance one would still be there if he traded back and picked up an extra pick.

Looking forward to Saturday and see what he does with the 10 picks. Still need depth at OL, DL, S, LB. Probably be a WR in the mix as well.

This is the part of watching TT that is so awesome. Unlike a lot of GMs, he compares talent both across drafts (other years), as well as round-by-round in the current draft. He has a structure for evaluating and comparing talent-tiers that is probably only equaled by the Patriots, maybe the Steelers and Giants too. While I'm not a personal fan of the Lacy pick, it took cajones (and good evaluation/analysis) to trade back and roll the dice, knowing Lacy or Ball were likely to reach pick #61. Fun to watch him work.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Got it...if we don't agree with you...we are being morons with idiotic logic.

Thanks.

Something like that. Let's get back to talking about how TT is a genius and how the Packers are going to repeat on the strength of this draft.

Great...let me find where anyone said anything like this.

It's wishful thinking on my part. He IS a genius - those are my words - and it would be nice if we could start talking about the Packers getting another trophy. Screw the Niners and Seahawks - we have the best QB in the league and lots of talent around him. IF.....Lacy is a quality starting RB, our offense will be dangerous. I'm just trying to be an optimist about the season when pretty much everyone nationally is Kaepernick and R Wilson's balls.

 

[sho nuff]

I agree...lets get another one...going to keep being tough in the NFC altogether (not just from those out West).

I think Lacy adds something they don't have...a tough runner in between the tackles who still has a bit of speed. Harris to be more of the COP guy...and hopefully Green as well.

Let them be on those guy's balls...while we still have the best QB in the league to keep them always around the top.

Oh, and kudos to the cap guys working that deal out...on the surface...making him the highest paid player ever was structured quite nicely for the Packers...locking him up for 5 more years after this contract.

 

[Sabertooth]

I dont think its too fair to say Lacy doesnt excel at catching the ball. He just wasnt used in that role much.

Id like to see the Packers find a way to get Jessie Williams with one of these 10 picks. While he is likely just a 2 down player, he would be a great eventual replacement for Ryan Pickett, who is still an anchor, but 33.

Packers seemed to love Quessenberry - so I am guessing they find a way to bag him. Also showed alot of interest in Kwame Geathers.

Maybe some competition for Crosby?

That was kind of my point - Lacy won't be used much as a pass catcher in Green Bay either. But he's a very good pass protector. The Packers don't exactly dink and dunk on third downs. They rifle it 25 yards downfield.

 

[Sabertooth]

Got it...if we don't agree with you...we are being morons with idiotic logic.

Thanks.

Something like that. Let's get back to talking about how TT is a genius and how the Packers are going to repeat on the strength of this draft.

Great...let me find where anyone said anything like this.

It's wishful thinking on my part. He IS a genius - those are my words - and it would be nice if we could start talking about the Packers getting another trophy. Screw the Niners and Seahawks - we have the best QB in the league and lots of talent around him. IF.....Lacy is a quality starting RB, our offense will be dangerous. I'm just trying to be an optimist about the season when pretty much everyone nationally is Kaepernick and R Wilson's balls.

Offense is plenty dangerous with Ryan Grant and Dejaun Harris. It's the defense that sucked last year. I think Lacy might be able to help there by giving the Packers a grinder. I really like the Datone Jones pick too. I think they add 3 or 4 more defensive guys today.

 

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It's interesting to watch TT work.

Brings in Cedric Benson right before the draft. Could this have been a red herring to mask their intentions of taking a RB?

Cut Smith and Saine right before the draft. Possibly to make more room on the roster for the many draft picks he was going to trade down for and for rookie free agents. TT also likes his 7th round picks. He sees this as an extension of the rookie free agents. If he drafts them in the 7th he doesn't have to fight for them as free agents.

He's confident in his draft board that there will be a player available that he likes yet if he trades back 6 picks and picks up another draft pick. With both Ball and Lacy still on the board in round 2 good chance one would still be there if he traded back and picked up an extra pick.

Looking forward to Saturday and see what he does with the 10 picks. Still need depth at OL, DL, S, LB. Probably be a WR in the mix as well.

This is the part of watching TT that is so awesome. Unlike a lot of GMs, he compares talent both across drafts (other years), as well as round-by-round in the current draft. He has a structure for evaluating and comparing talent-tiers that is probably only equaled by the Patriots, maybe the Steelers and Giants too. While I'm not a personal fan of the Lacy pick, it took cajones (and good evaluation/analysis) to trade back and roll the dice, knowing Lacy or Ball were likely to reach pick #61. Fun to watch him work.

I think the Packers and Giants are the best. New England for all their press is actually sliding backwards. Steelers too. Hoodie has made a lot of picks, but the team isn't as good as the Moss days. Not even close.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Lacy concerns me for two reasons: 1) he was running behind a dominant line, and the Packers are far from it. 2) even on occassions where the aforementioned OL opened huge holes, Lacy would inevitably get caught 10-15 yards downfield.

That said, if he's healthy & strong enough to pound it for 4+ypc and can improve our short yardage conversions, I'm fine with the pick. As others have said, I was strongly against taking him in the 1st round. At the bottom of the 2nd, I'm ok with it (though a part of me would've preferred -- if the Packers were going to take a RB -- to take one with some more gamebreaking qualities).

I guess the same could be said for Trent Richardson last year.

Yes Richardson had a very good rookie year. But projecting Richardson's success in Cleveland to Lacy's success in Green Bay is a fairly substantial leap of faith.

How was Richardson's college production compared to Lacy's?

And how is the Browns offensive line compared to the Packers offensive line?

But as I mentioned before -- if the Lacy pick means more short yardage conversions and a more consistent (if plodding) run game, that's an improvement over what the Packers have had for the past couple years.

 

[sho nuff]

Wondering how this all shapes up the backfield now.

I think first we will see Lacy/Harris as the 1-2 punch. Lacy is not going to be a 20-25 carry guy. THinking more 15 with possibly 20 if he is going well.

IMO, Green will remain since I think they still believe in his potential.

Starks could be out...

And my thought, and likely an unpopular one...if they can bring Benson back for another year...very cheap...why not do it? Insurance for Lacy if he gets hurt to be that physical back....and a veteran who did well running between the tackles to keep working with the young guys and especially the rookie.

 

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Got it...if we don't agree with you...we are being morons with idiotic logic.

Thanks.

Something like that. Let's get back to talking about how TT is a genius and how the Packers are going to repeat on the strength of this draft.

Great...let me find where anyone said anything like this.

It's wishful thinking on my part. He IS a genius - those are my words - and it would be nice if we could start talking about the Packers getting another trophy. Screw the Niners and Seahawks - we have the best QB in the league and lots of talent around him. IF.....Lacy is a quality starting RB, our offense will be dangerous. I'm just trying to be an optimist about the season when pretty much everyone nationally is Kaepernick and R Wilson's balls.

We may have the best QB but we do not have a team that can beat the 49ers, even at Lambeau. Wish it were otherwise. I was at that playoff game. We got crushed for the second time in a season.

 

[MaxThreshold]

This is hilarious.

Christian Ponder tweeting back and forth to his wife about Rodgers new deal.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Wondering how this all shapes up the backfield now.

I think first we will see Lacy/Harris as the 1-2 punch. Lacy is not going to be a 20-25 carry guy. THinking more 15 with possibly 20 if he is going well.

IMO, Green will remain since I think they still believe in his potential.

Starks could be out...

And my thought, and likely an unpopular one...if they can bring Benson back for another year...very cheap...why not do it? Insurance for Lacy if he gets hurt to be that physical back....and a veteran who did well running between the tackles to keep working with the young guys and especially the rookie.

Really can't picture them bringing back Benson. That was all just a TT smokescreen. Starks should be gone....Green should stick.