*** Official 2013 Packers Off Season Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[smackdaddies]

Official Prediction - Pack will draft a dline player in round 1, and draft a second possibly as soon as round 2. Overall this draft will be defensive heavy again, with the pack taking 2 dline, 1 lb and 2 db/s.

Pack will not draft a TE or RB before the 4th round, possibly not any

Pack will take a QB and a WR

Pack will take 1 OL

Packers will trade out of R1 if at all possible

 

[sho nuff]

I agree on most of that...except QB. Might be a year they stick with Harrell as #2 one more time...and let Coleman develop another year (just think they like him enough to not take another QB and lose him...but don't think he is ready to be #2).

Possible in the 7th...but IMO, more likely an undrafted kid brought in as a camp arm that has a possible shot at the PS.

 

[Sabertooth]

Maybe, but Harrell was hurt when they picked him....he shot for the moon and it just didn't work.

I agree on the 2012, Heyward was a great surprise. But he needs to take that next step. I'd love to see a defensive pick in the first round or a trade back.

 

[Packerz]

All I'm hoping for is with at least 2 of the first 3 picks they get some big nasty Lineman. Defense first, then offense

We'll see how it all turns out, but right now I'm happy!

 

[Sabertooth]

Happy. Hopefully he can pass rush.

 

[Balco]

Happy. Hopefully he can pass rush.

Jones can move for a 285 pounder. Excellent pick.

 

[sho nuff]

Nice pick...can never have enough guys on the line.

With Worthy hurt...Neal usually hurt...they need help there and get it with a guy with some moves to get into the backfield.

Way better than taking Lacy there or Teo.

I am also still one who thinks the need for S is overplayed...I think they like what they have in the 3 guys (Richardson, Jennings, and McMillan)

 

[meyerj31]

Love the Jones pick. Man he can move for his size. If he puts on 20 pounds over the next two years and maintains that speed, watch out! I can see him being kryptonite to those read-option QBs. His first step is amazing... disrupt the line and make the QB make a decision faster. Love the pick. Definitely BPA.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I am also still one who thinks the need for S is overplayed...I think they like what they have in the 3 guys (Richardson, Jennings, and McMillan)

Didn't McMillan play every single snap as a rookie? They are clearly committed to him.

There were not any S as good as Smith in this draft. DL and LB ended up being the spots with value dropping as I expected.

 

[Sabertooth]

I hope Te'o slides to them in the second.

 

[werdnoynek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsb5fGAdsK8 - sure it's highlights from a guy named vikingsworld, but they're solid highlights.

I like the pick. Keep hearing the word versatile with Jones and you can see it in the highlights. Like the pick, very excited for the next one.

 

[Balco]

I hope Te'o slides to them in the second.

I hope they stay far away. I would much rather have Arthur Brown or Sio Moore at ILB.

 

[Pipes]

I hope Te'o slides to them in the second.

I hope they stay far away. I would much rather have Arthur Brown or Sio Moore at ILB.

I see Te'o as AJ Hawk 2.0. He's a 2 down LB...no thanks. Love Arthur Brown would love to see him on the Pack.

 

[Pipes]

Nice pick...can never have enough guys on the line.With Worthy hurt...Neal usually hurt...they need help there and get it with a guy with some moves to get into the backfield. Way better than taking Lacy there or Teo.I am also still one who thinks the need for S is overplayed...I think they like what they have in the 3 guys (Richardson, Jennings, and McMillan)

I don't....they are a very soft bunch. They gave up a ton of big runs in part because no one in that secondary knows how to tackle.

 

[sho nuff]

Pipes, on 26 Apr 2013 - 07:22, said:

sho nuff, on 25 Apr 2013 - 22:35, said:Nice pick...can never have enough guys on the line.With Worthy hurt...Neal usually hurt...they need help there and get it with a guy with some moves to get into the backfield.Way better than taking Lacy there or Teo.I am also still one who thinks the need for S is overplayed...I think they like what they have in the 3 guys (Richardson, Jennings, and McMillan)

I don't....they are a very soft bunch. They gave up a ton of big runs in part because no one in that secondary knows how to tackle.

Giving up on a guy after less than a full year on the field in McMillan?Richardson has not even played yet.And even Jennings is still young.Again...I think the coaches are a bit more patient than we are as fans.

 

[meyerj31]

Nice pick...can never have enough guys on the line.With Worthy hurt...Neal usually hurt...they need help there and get it with a guy with some moves to get into the backfield. Way better than taking Lacy there or Teo.I am also still one who thinks the need for S is overplayed...I think they like what they have in the 3 guys (Richardson, Jennings, and McMillan)

I don't....they are a very soft bunch. They gave up a ton of big runs in part because no one in that secondary knows how to tackle.

The secondary is young, but very talented. Let them develop. The beat writers think the secondary is the strongest part of the team (besides QB).

 

[tdmills]

Really like GB's pick. Pickett isn't going to last forever. Front 3 of Worthy/Raji/Jones could be pretty good

 

[sho nuff]

I think the mix will look more like LB, OL, RB, WR, and possibly TE (in no particular order) before we see a safety drafted this year.

 

[Sabertooth]

Just keep adding defense Ted. And Mike Glennon at some point.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Really like GB's pick. Pickett isn't going to last forever. Front 3 of Worthy/Raji/Jones could be pretty good

Maybe some day, but according to McGinn, Worthy is unlikely to play this season. He also said Pickett and Raji showed up for workouts last week "badly out of shape."

 

[beef]

I hope Te'o slides to them in the second.

I hope they stay far away. I would much rather have Arthur Brown or Sio Moore at ILB.

I see Te'o as AJ Hawk 2.0. He's a 2 down LB...no thanks. Love Arthur Brown would love to see him on the Pack.

i prefer brown to te'o too

 

[Pipes]

Pipes, on 26 Apr 2013 - 07:22, said:

sho nuff, on 25 Apr 2013 - 22:35, said:Nice pick...can never have enough guys on the line.With Worthy hurt...Neal usually hurt...they need help there and get it with a guy with some moves to get into the backfield.Way better than taking Lacy there or Teo.I am also still one who thinks the need for S is overplayed...I think they like what they have in the 3 guys (Richardson, Jennings, and McMillan)

I don't....they are a very soft bunch. They gave up a ton of big runs in part because no one in that secondary knows how to tackle.

Giving up on a guy after less than a full year on the field in McMillan?Richardson has not even played yet.And even Jennings is still young.Again...I think the coaches are a bit more patient than we are as fans.

Just not a big fan. I think those guys are good in coverage it's their tackling that concerns me. They have no big hitters, no intimidators in their secondary at all and that concerns me. Especially with other physical defenses in the NFC...teams like the 49ers and Seahawks bring an intimidation factor the Packers don't.

Alot of people blame the demise of the defense on the loss of Cullen Jenkins. I don't to me ever since Nick Collins went down this defense has went into the toilet. I'd love to see McMillan or MD Jennings step up I really hope they do.

 

[sho nuff]

Really like GB's pick. Pickett isn't going to last forever. Front 3 of Worthy/Raji/Jones could be pretty good

Maybe some day, but according to McGinn, Worthy is unlikely to play this season. He also said Pickett and Raji showed up for workouts last week "badly out of shape."

Fat guys showing up out of shape in April does not worry too much.

 

[Sabertooth]

The decline of Woodson, loss of Collins, and Hawk never really growing into a top lineback have hurt them. I think this defense will be strong in 2 more years. It's the waiting game that sucks.

 

[tdmills]

The decline of Woodson, loss of Collins, and Hawk never really growing into a top lineback have hurt them. I think this defense will be strong in 2 more years. It's the waiting game that sucks.

They've patched up the D and at some point it fell through. Sam Shields shouldn't be a starting CB, Tramon didn't live up to the playoff run, Walden/Bishop/Jones/Perry haven't been healthy/played well enough. Harrell/Neal/Worthy haven't lived up to the draft position. It's a combination of a lot of stuff, but at this point I like GB's front 7 more than the back 4. I think the front 3 is intact. Matthews/hawk/bishop/perry can be solid with a good line in front of them. But I would like GB to get another CB(assuming Heyward stays at nickel).

With that said, how long before people worry about offense?

-With the money spent on Matthews/soon to be on Rodgers and probably on Raji + TT MO, free agency isn't going to help.

RB- it's a problem spot, even if it's not a priority on the offense

TE- if they let finley walk after the season, I don't think Williams can fill his shoes

OL- RG/RTis solid if Sitton/Bulaga can stay healthy. But LT/LG/C is average at best. Will Sherrod ever get on the field? Will Newhouse/Lang/EDS improve?

WR- Jennings/Driver just left. James Jones is an UFA after the season and Jordy Nelson is an UFA after 2014 season. Plus in 2 years Nelson will be 29 like Greg Jennings and most likely won't be back. That will leave them with Cobb.

QB- Need to get a solid backup if Harrell/Coleman(I like Coleman) don't develop. Remember Rodgers has taken a ton of sacks the past few years and they've been lucky he hasn't missed much time.

 

[sho nuff]

Sam Shields shouldn't be a starting CB? How do you figure?.

And you may be the only person on this earth who would like their front 7 more than their back 4. (and Id typically call it a back 5 since they play nickel so much).

Tramon has struggled since his injury as far as tackling...but can still cover.

Shields started slow and came on strong at the end of the year becoming their best cover guy on the outside.

Hayward was solid as a slot/nickel corner.

Burnett is ok...not thrilled there.

Other safety spot needs a little work for sure...but Im not one who thinks its as dire as others as I have said before.

But up front.

They are settled really at 2 spots. As far as really settled.

Matthews and Raji (and even Raji needs to earn the money he really wants).

Perry needs to show he is worth it...mix in Dezman Moses and its at least an ok rotation.

ILB is full of question marks. Bishop coming back from injury, Hawk is solid but unspectacular, Jones and Francois in the middle still have more to prove.

Pickett getting on in age...Worthy hurt...Neal is usually hurt. Now a rookie added in should help out...and if they get anything out of Jolly that he once had would be nice...but not counting on that as long as he was out of football.

 

[strykerpks]

@packers - #Packers have signed QB Aaron Rodgers to a contract extension. RT if you're excited

ETA - strange timing but, ok

 

[sho nuff]

Busy day for TT.

 

[strykerpks]

@AdamSchefter - Packers QB Aaron Rodgers now will become the new highest paid player in NFL history

@adbrandt - Intersting that the Packers lock up @AaronRodgers12 on the anniversary of him being passed on by 23 teams

 

[Pipes]

The decline of Woodson, loss of Collins, and Hawk never really growing into a top lineback have hurt them. I think this defense will be strong in 2 more years. It's the waiting game that sucks.

They've patched up the D and at some point it fell through. Sam Shields shouldn't be a starting CB, Tramon didn't live up to the playoff run, Walden/Bishop/Jones/Perry haven't been healthy/played well enough. Harrell/Neal/Worthy haven't lived up to the draft position. It's a combination of a lot of stuff, but at this point I like GB's front 7 more than the back 4. I think the front 3 is intact. Matthews/hawk/bishop/perry can be solid with a good line in front of them. But I would like GB to get another CB(assuming Heyward stays at nickel). With that said, how long before people worry about offense?-With the money spent on Matthews/soon to be on Rodgers and probably on Raji + TT MO, free agency isn't going to help. RB- it's a problem spot, even if it's not a priority on the offenseTE- if they let finley walk after the season, I don't think Williams can fill his shoesOL- RG/RTis solid if Sitton/Bulaga can stay healthy. But LT/LG/C is average at best. Will Sherrod ever get on the field? Will Newhouse/Lang/EDS improve?WR- Jennings/Driver just left. James Jones is an UFA after the season and Jordy Nelson is an UFA after 2014 season. Plus in 2 years Nelson will be 29 like Greg Jennings and most likely won't be back. That will leave them with Cobb. QB- Need to get a solid backup if Harrell/Coleman(I like Coleman) don't develop. Remember Rodgers has taken a ton of sacks the past few years and they've been lucky he hasn't missed much time.

I'd like to see them snag a RB in the 2nd. Even the slightest threat of a running game opens things up for the entire offense. Unless of course Cyprien or Brown happens to fall to them. To me they can address TE next year as they still have Finley for one more year and he was decent the 2nd half of last year. Online is always a concern however this group isnt as bad as some make them out to be considering they have no RBs and a QB that doesn't like to throw the ball away. WR if someone falls to them great and QB doesn't matter to me as they are screwed anyway if Rodgers goes down.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Christmas time tonight folks! Can't wait!

 

[Mr.Pack]

@AdamSchefter - Packers QB Aaron Rodgers now will become the new highest paid player in NFL history

@adbrandt - Intersting that the Packers lock up @AaronRodgers12 on the anniversary of him being passed on by 23 teams

5 years $110 Million

$40 Million in 2013

$62.5 Million over the first 3 years

 

[tdmills]

Sam Shields shouldn't be a starting CB? How do you figure?.

And you may be the only person on this earth who would like their front 7 more than their back 4. (and Id typically call it a back 5 since they play nickel so much).

Tramon has struggled since his injury as far as tackling...but can still cover.

Shields started slow and came on strong at the end of the year becoming their best cover guy on the outside.

Hayward was solid as a slot/nickel corner.

Burnett is ok...not thrilled there.

Other safety spot needs a little work for sure...but Im not one who thinks its as dire as others as I have said before.

But up front.

They are settled really at 2 spots. As far as really settled.

Matthews and Raji (and even Raji needs to earn the money he really wants).

Perry needs to show he is worth it...mix in Dezman Moses and its at least an ok rotation.

ILB is full of question marks. Bishop coming back from injury, Hawk is solid but unspectacular, Jones and Francois in the middle still have more to prove.

Pickett getting on in age...Worthy hurt...Neal is usually hurt. Now a rookie added in should help out...and if they get anything out of Jolly that he once had would be nice...but not counting on that as long as he was out of football.

I meant I like the front 7 in the future(next 2-3 years) more than the back 4.

Shields is UFA after season/Tramon is up soon as well. Burnett is average, maybe, and the other safety spot is ???

The front 7 may not be a top unit in the NFL, but I like it's potential more than the secondary.

 

[sho nuff]

I can see that.

They definitely have potential going forward.

For this year...the back 4 are more settled than the front 7.

 

[tdmills]

The decline of Woodson, loss of Collins, and Hawk never really growing into a top lineback have hurt them. I think this defense will be strong in 2 more years. It's the waiting game that sucks.

They've patched up the D and at some point it fell through. Sam Shields shouldn't be a starting CB, Tramon didn't live up to the playoff run, Walden/Bishop/Jones/Perry haven't been healthy/played well enough. Harrell/Neal/Worthy haven't lived up to the draft position. It's a combination of a lot of stuff, but at this point I like GB's front 7 more than the back 4. I think the front 3 is intact. Matthews/hawk/bishop/perry can be solid with a good line in front of them. But I would like GB to get another CB(assuming Heyward stays at nickel). With that said, how long before people worry about offense?-With the money spent on Matthews/soon to be on Rodgers and probably on Raji + TT MO, free agency isn't going to help. RB- it's a problem spot, even if it's not a priority on the offenseTE- if they let finley walk after the season, I don't think Williams can fill his shoesOL- RG/RTis solid if Sitton/Bulaga can stay healthy. But LT/LG/C is average at best. Will Sherrod ever get on the field? Will Newhouse/Lang/EDS improve?WR- Jennings/Driver just left. James Jones is an UFA after the season and Jordy Nelson is an UFA after 2014 season. Plus in 2 years Nelson will be 29 like Greg Jennings and most likely won't be back. That will leave them with Cobb. QB- Need to get a solid backup if Harrell/Coleman(I like Coleman) don't develop. Remember Rodgers has taken a ton of sacks the past few years and they've been lucky he hasn't missed much time.

I'd like to see them snag a RB in the 2nd. Even the slightest threat of a running game opens things up for the entire offense. Unless of course Cyprien or Brown happens to fall to them. To me they can address TE next year as they still have Finley for one more year and he was decent the 2nd half of last year. Online is always a concern however this group isnt as bad as some make them out to be considering they have no RBs and a QB that doesn't like to throw the ball away. WR if someone falls to them great and QB doesn't matter to me as they are screwed anyway if Rodgers goes down.

Cyprien would be a great pick if he fell.

Which RBs do you think fit GB's scheme? I like Zac Stacy as a late round RB that could do great things in GB

 

[Statcruncher]

Congrats on signing Rodgers long term. He's an amazing QB and I hate to see him play the Bears. I was hoping his pricetag might hobble GB a little but the way the front office has managed salaries and developed talent instead of overpaying in FA it looks like it's going to be manageable.

Speaking for Bears fans everywhere, it's not fair we've had to suffer through 16 years of Favre and now 12 years of Rodgers.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Congrats on signing Rodgers long term. He's an amazing QB and I hate to see him play the Bears. I was hoping his pricetag might hobble GB a little but the way the front office has managed salaries and developed talent instead of overpaying in FA it looks like it's going to be manageable.

Speaking for Bears fans everywhere, it's not fair we've had to suffer through 16 years of Favre and now 12 years of Rodgers.

*Snicker*

 

[Pipes]

Love the Lacey pick....bout time they brought in a legit back.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Love the Lacey pick....bout time they brought in a legit back.

Very hard not to take Lacy at that spot. A bit like Rodgers falling to 24. Hope it pans out similarly!

 

[Balco]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

 

[sho nuff]

Love the Lacy pick there...hard to pass on that talent late in the 2nd

 

[Pipes]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

Totally agree. Lacy isn't a good fit for the offense, lacks agility/ability to make people miss, doesn't appear to be a great receiving back. He reminds me of a slightly more athletic Ced Benson.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

 

[Balco]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

I agree. If they wanted a back, I would have preferred a better one. I also don't think they needed to go rb that early. There were some solid ILB's available. Bishop is coming off injury, and Hawk is horrid. Would have been nice to have Artur Brown or Sio Moore.

 

[Pipes]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

 

[Pipes]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

I agree. If they wanted a back, I would have preferred a better one. I also don't think they needed to go rb that early. There were some solid ILB's available. Bishop is coming off injury, and Hawk is horrid. Would have been nice to have Artur Brown or Sio Moore.

I would've like Brown but Lacy will be just fine and plus for some reason the powers in charge like Hawk. I don't understand it but they do.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

He can't be any worse than what we've had as a running game the last X number of years. I don't see how this is anything but a huge plus. Lacy? In the second round? Once supposedly the top back in the draft? C'mon.

If I remember correctly, there was one other guy who kept falling and the Packers finally picked him up. What was his name again?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

I'm not a fan of Lacy. Watch the tape - it is irrelevant if he was at one point rated as the top RB in the draft -- the reality is, he was passed by 60 times, and 3 RBs were drafted in front of him. So it really is irrelevant how he was supposedly viewed 2 months ago.

When I watch Lacy, at best he looks like a slightly more athletic Ced Benson. And it's probably worse than that, because IMO Lacy runs more upright than Benson ever did.

Why are you so excited about this pick? Because you've heard of him before?

 

[meyerj31]

Not a fan of the Lacy pick at all. SHould have stayed put and taken Arthur Brown. Or taken Sio Moore after they traded down.

I disagree. It's about time the Packers got serious about their running game.

Then they should have drafted someone talented.

Can't believe the negativity here. GB gets, according to many NFL scouts, the top back in the draft at the end of the 2nd round and people are upset? Makes no sense to me. This at a position they've basically ignored since Thompson has been GM. I guess there is no pleasing some people.

He can't be any worse than what we've had as a running game the last X number of years. I don't see how this is anything but a huge plus. Lacy? In the second round? Once supposedly the top back in the draft? C'mon.

If I remember correctly, there was one other guy who kept falling and the Packers finally picked him up. What was his name again?

This is a fair comment but with Arthur Brown still on the board I think I would have rather had him, too. Get rid of Hawk and have a potentially phenomenal defense in a year or two. The secondary is going to be lights out and Matthews/Perry/Jones/Raji already there... Brown would have been sick.

Rodgers is always going to score enough points, even when he doesn't have a line or a RB. QBs make the skill position players. So I'd like to pair with him a lights out defense.

But Lacy sliding that far ... they got him cheap. Hopefully he does well. It's not like the Packers were the only ones with him rated low... didn't four other RBs go off the board before him? There seems to be a consensus that he isn't as the media advertised.