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I was going by this quote... "Cromartie was traded to the New York Jets on March 4, 2010 for a third-round draft pick in the 2011 NFL Draft that could have turned into a second-round pick depending on Cromartie's performance."... but if they ended up getting Mouton for Cromartie instead of Wright then OOOF, that's even a bigger kick in the nuts.
Unfortunately, I think you're right. There were also some murmurs about being a bad locker room guy(if anyone is keeping score the good locker room guys have been a .500 team and they went 11-5 with the "cancer"), and an emberrassing youtube video but he was in financial straights because of his "family situation". NY gave him a ~$500k advance to deal with it and that seems like one of the best investments that franchise has made in recent history. I would have thought a young, talented player desperate for $ up front would have been a great negotiating position for management.
He's sitting out this week with a sprained foot. He's in a walking boot. Didn't really notice him during the game.
A couple injuries and this team is looking at a top 5 pick. I think we're in for a rough season.
Thanks for the report. From what I read it made it sound like he had trouble disengaging when blocked, which is supposedly one of the reasons he sunk in the draft.
One injury in particular and it will be a top 2 pick imo, and the bodyguard for that guy is Dunlap who was the "anchor" of the 2nd worst OL in the league last season.
If the team isn't at least 2-2 after week 4 (Texans, Eagles, Titans, Cowboys) then I'll be talking about Bridgewater. The division outside of Denver isn't tough but I also don't expect better than 3-3. Outside of the Jaguars, I don't see a team the Chargers will be favored against.
Picking anything other than a LT with the first pick would be a mistake. I'm assuming 3 LT's won't go in the first 4 picks this year again.
I'd go a step further and say that failing to improve the OL would be a mistake... yet we've had two different regimes that obviously disagree with all three of us over the past several years.Just Win Baby said:Beerguzzler said:
Building a line takes a few years IMO. Obviously they wanted a LT this past year, but couldn't acquire one because they went in the first 4 picks. They got a RT though. I expect the LT to come this upcoming year since there is a much more promising group of QB/skill players that should push the LT's down the board.I'd go a step further and say that failing to improve the OL would be a mistake... yet we've had two different regimes that obviously disagree with all three of us over the past several years.Just Win Baby said:Beerguzzler said:
Honestly, I would have paid Bushrod to start every down at LT instead of paying Freeney to be a situational pass rusher. Then I would have signed Eric Winston to the vet minimum with incentives contract to start at RT that he got from AZ. In the draft I would have taken Fluker, but this year I would have played him at RG with the idea of developing him into a RT if he shows he has enough quickness to play T in the NFL. I wouldn't have traded away the 4th round pick to take Te'o so I would have drafted Barrett Jones to backup LG/C/RG with the idea he at least has a chance to push for playing time at LG/C as more than a backup. I would have taken a flyer on a guy like Reid Fragel in the 7th round for depth or at least stash on a developmental squad.What did you expect the current regime to do in 1 off-season?I'd go a step further and say that failing to improve the OL would be a mistake... yet we've had two different regimes that obviously disagree with all three of us over the past several years.Just Win Baby said:Beerguzzler said:
If he's unwilling to pay Winston the vet minimum +incentives and Bushrod as much as Freeney then I don't expect Telesco to spend big dollars, medium dollars, or tiny dollars on any lineman... well, maybe for castoff/backups from phi/pit because those OL's have been dominating.
No, I was thinking 4 wins prior to this, particularly after seeing the 1st preseason game. This just makes it that much more realistic. I don't think Brown is that good, Allen probably isn't ready, Gates is done, Royal isn't that great. They've got no depth anywhere at this point and more injuries will happen.
Maybe, but without Alexander/Floyd I think suddenly Eddie Royal will be counted on for a few wins all by himself. And that's why people are concerned.
I think the starting OL has a chance to be below average, maybe a bit better. I think they'll be better than last year's starting OL (pick any iteration you want). The problems at the skill positions will be exacerbated when the starting OLinemen start getting hurt, because the backups are awful.
Yeah, the backups across the board are pretty terrible not just OL. Just imagine if the unlikely happens and Ryan Mathews gets dinged at some point this year. Woodhead and Brown will the two leading RUNNERS on the team. It's almost as if this team needed to draft more players in the draft instead of trading multiple picks to get one player... hobbling around in a boot.
Honestly, I would have paid Bushrod to start every down at LT instead of paying Freeney to be a situational pass rusher. Then I would have signed Eric Winston to the vet minimum with incentives contract to start at RT that he got from AZ. In the draft I would have taken Fluker, but this year I would have played him at RG with the idea of developing him into a RT if he shows he has enough quickness to play T in the NFL. I wouldn't have traded away the 4th round pick to take Te'o so I would have drafted Barrett Jones to backup LG/C/RG with the idea he at least has a chance to push for playing time at LG/C as more than a backup. I would have taken a flyer on a guy like Reid Fragel in the 7th round for depth or at least stash on a developmental squad.What did you expect the current regime to do in 1 off-season?I'd go a step further and say that failing to improve the OL would be a mistake... yet we've had two different regimes that obviously disagree with all three of us over the past several years.
I wouldn't have ever payed Freeney his ridiculous contract because I wouldn't have entered this season with one pass rusher on the roster. Barnes at just over a million a year would have been a bargain compared to Freeney and the younger Barnes has proven he can actually be effective in a 3-4 defense unlike Freeney.
So imo there's plenty that could have been done in one offseason to fix the OL. The OL I described is so much better than the current version they aren't even in the same ballpark.
Matthews actually looked pretty good, but that was about it from the first team. There were an awful lot of 5 and 7 step drops for a new quick hit offense. And we know what happens then with this line when you take deep drops.
Matthews good. D Line good.
Flukers run blocking last night was at an Elite level. He consistently broke down the DE in running plays. Just look at the TD run. He pushes off his initial block, then takes out Bostic and another dude. It was fantastic. He will have issues in pass protection, but he's already an elite run blocker in the league.
