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****Official 2014 Chicago Bears Thread **** (1 Viewer)

DaveL said:
RBM said:
God help me for being excited for this game tomorrow. How haven't I learned my lesson at this point?
It's been ages since we played on Thanksgiving, hard not to be excited. Regardless of who we've lost to, who we've beaten, and how we've played...
Was the Dallas debacle the last time?

 
Nothing? No comments yet?

When the Bears lose, posters are quick to bash. When they win..... crickets.
What no comments yet? The Bears win 2 in a row and you can't indulge us with one of your truly insightful observations. :rolleyes:crickets. What part of that 70 yard offensive explosion in the first half was your favorite?

I am not hear to bash the Bears today because it is obvious that they are going to win the Superbowl. After all we did just convincingly take down the mighty Vikings and Bucs who wouldn't even make the playoffs if you combined their win totals.

Cutler = MVP (Obviously)

Trestman = Coach of the Year

Mel Tucker = D Coordinator of the year - I know this isn't an award but they should start one and call it the Mel Tucker award.

What is funny is that I thought the D actually did a good job the last 2 weeks but that offensive genius that we have for a head coach seems to have turned into Terry Shea.
Here me out.

The last 4 games (5 weeks) the Bears lost to the Patriots and the Packers (good chance that's who will be playing in the Super Bowl in February) . During that time, this board had 4+ pages of comments.

Then they win against the Vikings and the Bucs, teams they should beat. And nobody has anything to say.

Must take less energy to #####. :shrug:
You are absolutely right. There also should have been 4+ pages pointing out how they won against teams they should have beaten handily. The bashing they took against the Pats and Pack was deserved IMHO, but fair is fair, we should have bashed them as well for their performance against two weaker teams.
If they didn't like so god awful on offense all season I might be cheering their performances for barely beating weaker teams. It is really hard to get excited about this team because they look completely lost on offense. I think the reason you see so much venom against the Bears this season is because the expectations for the offense were so high. I think it might be more accepted if they lost games and still averaged 28 points a game then what they are doing now. I agree with the point that they might have gotten blown out by 2 teams that are going to the Superbowl but it is still hard to accept that they didn't at least put up a fight and stay with them offensively for a little while. There first half offense has been atrocious and they don't seem to have that killer instinct that good teams have. Of course I will be routing for them to beat the Lions tomorrow and will be pleasantly surprised if they win. They definitely have a shot because Detroit has been struggling. My biggest worry is that the Bears D will cure whatever is ailing the Lions offense and their offense won't be able to keep up.

I never responded to an earlier comment on something I posted where they said they did not want to throw games to get higher draft choices. Some of the teams that continue to pick in the middle seem to languish around .500. A lot of the top tiered talent is obviously taken at the top of the draft and you have a better chance of success unless you have one of the elite general managers who turn later picks into good players. If Emery were an elite GM than I wouldn't care. I think it is too early to grade him but I am not convinced he will be elite - especially since he hired Trestman.over Arians.

 
The Bears mediocrity is what irritates me the most. Rarely in real contention but also rarely in a position for a top pick. Mediocrity at its finest. The Chicago Bears

 
The Bears mediocrity is what irritates me the most. Rarely in real contention but also rarely in a position for a top pick. Mediocrity at its finest. The Chicago Bears
Reminds me of the Wannstedt years, up until the last two. Brutal to know your team is running in place for a 2-3 year stint. Brutal.

 
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I think the bears will pull off the upset today. Detroit has certainly looked the better team this season, but lately they haven't seemed very cohesive. And Stafford has been awful. Granted, they've had a couple tough games in a row, but I think there's more to it than that. The Lions may be slightly better overall, but today the bears will prevail.

 
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I wouldnt really care if they just disbanded the whole damn franchise at this point. Just get rid of them
Hater - you are so quick to criticize them after the loss. What about the positives. They did score 2 TDs in the first quarter and had a lead. If they win their next 4 games they will be 9-7 and have a shot at the 20th pick in the draft.

 
I wouldnt really care if they just disbanded the whole damn franchise at this point. Just get rid of them
Hater - you are so quick to criticize them after the loss. What about the positives. They did score 2 TDs in the first quarter and had a lead. If they win their next 4 games they will be 9-7 and have a shot at the 20th pick in the draft.
I stand corrected. I'm back on the bandwagon!
 
I wouldnt really care if they just disbanded the whole damn franchise at this point. Just get rid of them
Extremely unlikeable group.Forte and Jeffrey are the only two guys I enjoy watching.

Really a bunch of puds on that team. As much as I hated Lovie, the players would bust their ### for him. I don't see that here.
You know, I wanted Lovie gone more than anyone but you have a point. I'm not sure it's Trestman or that we have a team of all new players but these guys don't even look like they enjoy football, except for Allen and Young. The whole demeanor of the team is in tge tank. No one is fighting for each other.
 
flapgreen said:
I think the bears will pull off the upset today. Detroit has certainly looked the better team this season, but lately they haven't seemed very cohesive. And Stafford has been awful. Granted, they've had a couple tough games in a row, but I think there's more to it than that. The Lions may be slightly better overall, but today the bears will prevail.
shut the hell up
hey...he backed off of the SB talk and that they "would" win for sure to "I think they will".

Progress.

 
yoman said:
flapgreen said:
I wouldnt really care if they just disbanded the whole damn franchise at this point. Just get rid of them
Hater - you are so quick to criticize them after the loss. What about the positives. They did score 2 TDs in the first quarter and had a lead. If they win their next 4 games they will be 9-7 and have a shot at the 20th pick in the draft.
:lmao:

 
#Bears: 1 rush in 2nd half. Fewest by a team in a half in 4 years, per @ESPNStatsInfo. #Lions have good run D, but yikes, Marc Trestman.

 
#Bears: 1 rush in 2nd half. Fewest by a team in a half in 4 years, per @ESPNStatsInfo. #Lions have good run D, but yikes, Marc Trestman.
That’s 48 passes and seven runs on the day. No team can win in the NFL that way. ~ Hub
this is really just lazy

if I could go back 8 yrs to reference this game --- it just happens to be a memorable game for me, and I reference it now and again.

at the time, 4 of the patriots' prior 6 games were divisional wins in what is always considered a weak division, so the feeling was that this minny game would be a real challenge that the pats might not be up to --- at minny, against the williams wall, which was a pretty tough d that finished the year with a league best 985 yards given up on the ground at a 2.8 ypc clip. yikes!

through 3 quarters the pats ran the ball about 8 times, threw 38, and rolled into the 4th up 31-7, with that 7 being on a minny punt return td.

that's with ben watson, reche caldwell, doug gabriel, and 35 yr old troy brown running wild downfield. :sadbanana:

if you need a more recent game, we can look at just last week when the pats played this very same detroit team --- through 3 quarters they threw 43x and ran 10 to roll into the 4th up 27-6, eerily similar to the minny game, now that I'm typing it out.

anyway, I'm not in favor of taking forte out of the game to let cutty throw, but to make the blanket statement that it's some kind of poor scheme by an inept coach is pretty lazy and inaccurate hyperbole.

but was it even trestman?

it's been pointed out at least a couple times over the past few weeks that cutler has audibled out of run plays, and chosen pass over run on options more often than trestman would like, killing drives and turning the ball over.

I know you're aware of this as I've copied the blurbs either in here or in the cutler thread, as evidence that cutler is not a good qb, which is something I've been pointing out to people, like yourself, for a number of years.

but people, like yourself, see that rocket laser arm and insist on telling us that their boy could throw a football over that there mountain --- of course, when the offense is ####ed up because they don't run the ball, that must be a turible coach.

that's just lazy.

 
Please read the actual article. The point is that that offense is waaaaaaaay too talented at almost every skill position to be as bad as they are. Refusing to run the ball was only part of the point. And in the article is even a quote from the usually quiet Forte, which sounds like a not-so-subtle shot at the coaching and play calling. There needs to be a change. That's not lazy, it's fact based on how utterly clueless this team looks compared to their talent level - and if the Bear's management doesn't really beleive in their talent, then maybe the change needs to happen higher than head coach.

 
#Bears: 1 rush in 2nd half. Fewest by a team in a half in 4 years, per @ESPNStatsInfo. #Lions have good run D, but yikes, Marc Trestman.
Thats 48 passes and seven runs on the day. No team can win in the NFL that way. ~ Hub
this is really just lazy

if I could go back 8 yrs to reference this game --- it just happens to be a memorable game for me, and I reference it now and again.

at the time, 4 of the patriots' prior 6 games were divisional wins in what is always considered a weak division, so the feeling was that this minny game would be a real challenge that the pats might not be up to --- at minny, against the williams wall, which was a pretty tough d that finished the year with a league best 985 yards given up on the ground at a 2.8 ypc clip. yikes!

through 3 quarters the pats ran the ball about 8 times, threw 38, and rolled into the 4th up 31-7, with that 7 being on a minny punt return td.

that's with ben watson, reche caldwell, doug gabriel, and 35 yr old troy brown running wild downfield. :sadbanana:

if you need a more recent game, we can look at just last week when the pats played this very same detroit team --- through 3 quarters they threw 43x and ran 10 to roll into the 4th up 27-6, eerily similar to the minny game, now that I'm typing it out.

anyway, I'm not in favor of taking forte out of the game to let cutty throw, but to make the blanket statement that it's some kind of poor scheme by an inept coach is pretty lazy and inaccurate hyperbole.

but was it even trestman?

it's been pointed out at least a couple times over the past few weeks that cutler has audibled out of run plays, and chosen pass over run on options more often than trestman would like, killing drives and turning the ball over.

I know you're aware of this as I've copied the blurbs either in here or in the cutler thread, as evidence that cutler is not a good qb, which is something I've been pointing out to people, like yourself, for a number of years.

but people, like yourself, see that rocket laser arm and insist on telling us that their boy could throw a football over that there mountain --- of course, when the offense is ####ed up because they don't run the ball, that must be a turible coach.

that's just lazy.
Do what
 
Please read the actual article. The point is that that offense is waaaaaaaay too talented at almost every skill position to be as bad as they are. Refusing to run the ball was only part of the point. And in the article is even a quote from the usually quiet Forte, which sounds like a not-so-subtle shot at the coaching and play calling. There needs to be a change. That's not lazy, it's fact based on how utterly clueless this team looks compared to their talent level - and if the Bear's management doesn't really beleive in their talent, then maybe the change needs to happen higher than head coach.
the rb wanted to run the ball more?

hey -- isn't qb considered a skill position?

at least on most teams it is

 
Please read the actual article. The point is that that offense is waaaaaaaay too talented at almost every skill position to be as bad as they are. Refusing to run the ball was only part of the point. And in the article is even a quote from the usually quiet Forte, which sounds like a not-so-subtle shot at the coaching and play calling. There needs to be a change. That's not lazy, it's fact based on how utterly clueless this team looks compared to their talent level - and if the Bear's management doesn't really beleive in their talent, then maybe the change needs to happen higher than head coach.
the rb wanted to run the ball more?

hey -- isn't qb considered a skill position?

at least on most teams it is
You still haven't actually read the article, have you? It addresses the Cutler situation (and basically suggests what I said in my final sentence) about the Bears BELIEVING (wrongly?) that Cutler IS talented (and the article sites the fact that he did go to a Pro Bowl before he got to Sack City).

Forte didn't say he wanted to run the ball more he said "we've got a lot of talent, but talent only gets you so far." - that is hardly saying "gimme da damn ball" - it's saying the coaches aren't putting the talent in position to win - either through faulty scheme or bad play calling...or both. It's fairly obvious what Forte meant - I don't understand why you refuse to read the article linked then comment on it and pretend you know what it said. :confused:

 
Briggs on IR. Hate to see it end like this. Has been a great Bear for a lot of years.
:goodposting: Ugly ending but man was he good in his prime. All over the field.
Seeing Briggs, Urlacher, Hester, and Tillman all go within a couple years of each other is tough, especially with no real guys to take their place. All-time great Bears.
 
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The Bears will indeed begin to run it more, but so will the Cowboys. I think Dallas won;t trust Romo after his performance against the Bears last year and will run it a lot, and effectively. Especially at the GL. The Bears will stay in it for a while but will abandon the run when they fall behind (by halftime?).

 
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the game thursday is really winnable for a number of reasons... but it will require a commitment to run and mix in play action and vertical passing (please stop the alshon WR screen crap even if it worked once last week)

 
So the question is basically which QB is going to lose the game first? As a Bears fan living in the DFW area I'm not looking forward to the game or aftermath.

 
This stinks! Not because they keep getting blown out, but rather, because real hope is a long way off.

It would be very unlike the Bears to fire Trestman with the remaining years on his contract. Mel will, consequently, be the sacrifice. Since Trestman will then be a head coach "on thin ice", no real good D-Coordinator or other coaches will want to come here (at least none that have had past success or are up and comers). So a re-tred or project will be the stop gap. Then, in 2-3 years, Trestman and Emery get canned (or not renewed), and this cycle repeats. This is the same nonsense that happened with Lovie towards the end of his tenure. Too bad the Bears management continues to make the same mistakes over-and-over ... And, over.

The Bears president, Phillips, has to retire from the Player/Personel side and just focus on the accounting matters. There must be a complete housekeeping here and the inserting of a NFL Player/Personnel Co-President before we can really build the franchise Chicago deserves.

 
This stinks! Not because they keep getting blown out, but rather, because real hope is a long way off.

It would be very unlike the Bears to fire Trestman with the remaining years on his contract. Mel will, consequently, be the sacrifice. Since Trestman will then be a head coach "on thin ice", no real good D-Coordinator or other coaches will want to come here (at least none that have had past success or are up and comers). So a re-tred or project will be the stop gap. Then, in 2-3 years, Trestman and Emery get canned (or not renewed), and this cycle repeats. This is the same nonsense that happened with Lovie towards the end of his tenure. Too bad the Bears management continues to make the same mistakes over-and-over ... And, over.

The Bears president, Phillips, has to retire from the Player/Personel side and just focus on the accounting matters. There must be a complete housekeeping here and the inserting of a NFL Player/Personnel Co-President before we can really build the franchise Chicago deserves.
I meant at the end of the year. I agree, no one will get canned before then.

 
Rather than trotting Trestman and offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer out to wiggle out of questions and to say it's disrespectful to say his team isn't playing as hard as it can, why not someone's feet to the fire as a sign that the organization takes fielding a God-awful football team week after week seriously and is willing to do something about it.
This is what we've been saying all along. Even if it's symbolic.

 

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