** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (1 Viewer)

[GoBirds]

Keep the coach, get rid of the nerd on the power trip. You don't bring Chip in and have the cap guy restrictions what he can do. Let him run his program for a few years and see if it works. After last year's draft it can only get better ha.

Can it? Seems like he has room to draft more Oregon players and first round no shows. Then cut top WRs for no reason or reasonable compensation.

I like Chip the Coach but nothing he's done personnel wise has given me any confidence in his ability to be a GM.

Drafting is the main concern as Roseman did have one very strong draft if he was truly behind it.

Djax was overpaid and his productivity was duplicated by Maclin this year. Everyone loves to focus on his 1 route and stretching the field but at the same time Maclin kept us in a number of games with unbelievable sideline catches on routes you would never see Jackson run.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[Sludge]

Mariota and Kelly are gonna make a great Qb/coach combo in the NFL. Its a shame thats gonna happen in Tampa.

Yeah after these past few weeks, if TB comes calling with his own QB and more power, does he go? Heck 10 wins down there probably gets you a statue.

No, but beating the Iggles in the NFCCG and winning the SB in 2002 did.

2008 eased that pain.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Mariota and Kelly are gonna make a great Qb/coach combo in the NFL. Its a shame thats gonna happen in Tampa.

Yeah after these past few weeks, if TB comes calling with his own QB and more power, does he go? Heck 10 wins down there probably gets you a statue.

No, but beating the Iggles in the NFCCG and winning the SB in 2002 did.

2008 eased that pain.

meh. the pain of the 02 NFCCG will never be eased. Definitely the most devastating Eagles' loss of my lifetime.

 

[Insein]

Keep the coach, get rid of the nerd on the power trip. You don't bring Chip in and have the cap guy restrictions what he can do. Let him run his program for a few years and see if it works. After last year's draft it can only get better ha.

Can it? Seems like he has room to draft more Oregon players and first round no shows. Then cut top WRs for no reason or reasonable compensation.I like Chip the Coach but nothing he's done personnel wise has given me any confidence in his ability to be a GM.

Drafting is the main concern as Roseman did have one very strong draft if he was truly behind it. Djax was overpaid and his productivity was duplicated by Maclin this year. Everyone loves to focus on his 1 route and stretching the field but at the same time Maclin kept us in a number of games with unbelievable sideline catches on routes you would never see Jackson run.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Yes but we could have had both this year and let him walk this offseason. The bottom line is he was still top 10 and we missed the playoffs.

 

[Sludge]

Mariota and Kelly are gonna make a great Qb/coach combo in the NFL. Its a shame thats gonna happen in Tampa.

Yeah after these past few weeks, if TB comes calling with his own QB and more power, does he go? Heck 10 wins down there probably gets you a statue.

No, but beating the Iggles in the NFCCG and winning the SB in 2002 did.

2008 eased that pain.

meh. the pain of the 02 NFCCG will never be eased. Definitely the most devastating Eagles' loss of my lifetime.

Super Bowl's XV and XXXIX were worse.

 

[Awful Waffle]

Eagles just tweeted out :

Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Lurie announces new structural change for the #Eagles: Howie Roseman elevated to Executive VP of Football Ops.

Coach Kelly will oversee player personnel department and lead efforts to hire a new personnel executive, a process that begins immediately.

Thank God.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Hmm, not sure I like that.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Mariota and Kelly are gonna make a great Qb/coach combo in the NFL. Its a shame thats gonna happen in Tampa.

Yeah after these past few weeks, if TB comes calling with his own QB and more power, does he go? Heck 10 wins down there probably gets you a statue.

No, but beating the Iggles in the NFCCG and winning the SB in 2002 did.

2008 eased that pain.

meh. the pain of the 02 NFCCG will never be eased. Definitely the most devastating Eagles' loss of my lifetime.

Super Bowl's XV and XXXIX were worse.

I was 2 at the first Super Bowl, so that is out for me. Pats' Super Bowl is certainly up there, but I really didn't feel great about that game going in. I mean, sure we had a chance, but playing the defending champs was clearly not going to be easy.

In contrast, there was no doubt in my mind that we would beat Tampa and then it started with such a bang that losing was just crushing. Only Super Bowl I could not watch.

 

[Mighty Mice]

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Lurie-Announces-Structural-Change/11b587d7-132f-4f9b-9984-9c361f687675

Lurie Announces Structural Change

Posted 23 minutes ago

By PhiladelphiaEagles.com

Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Lurie today announced a new structural change for the Philadelphia Eagles.

Howie Roseman will be elevated to the role of Executive Vice President of Football Operations and will continue directing contract negotiations, salary cap management and NFL strategic matters, while overseeing the team’s medical staff, equipment staff and more.

Head coach Chip Kelly will now oversee the player personnel department. He will also lead efforts to hire a new personnel executive – a process that will begin immediately.

“We are a good football team and we believe these steps will help make us a great team," said Lurie. "That step - from good to great - is the most difficult one for any organization to make. To do that, sometimes you have to step back and really look hard at where you are today and what you want to become."

Roseman has been with the Eagles for 16 years in a variety of roles - as general manager since 2010.

“Philadelphia is my home and the Eagles are my family. My number one goal is to help bring a championship to this city and that will never change," said Roseman. "I believe this will solidify the trust we have all placed in Coach Kelly."

Kelly, who was hired as the Eagles head coach in 2013, has had two 10-win seasons.

“I am very confident about where we are headed as a team and as an organization. I look forward to continue working with Jeffrey and Howie as well as the personnel department," said Kelly.

“This is not a one-man operation,” added Kelly. “It will truly take a team effort to acquire and develop the best football players and then put the best team on the field each week. It will take all of us working together."

 

[GoBirds]

Chalk one up for coach huh?

 

[unckeyherb]

Hmm. Very skeptical about this

 

[Mighty Mice]

The following is an expanded statement from Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Lurie regarding the structural change announced today:

"Today, we made an important announcement and one upon which I would like to offer further perspective.

In the normal process of evaluating the end of the season, I meet with key executives for thorough discussions and evaluations of all aspects of football operations. During those lengthy meetings this week, we discussed a comprehensive approach on how to seamlessly integrate the personnel and coaching departments in order to maximize every facet of the process.

Working with Chip (Kelly), Howie (Roseman) and Don (Smolenski) we came up with what we believe will be a more thorough and thoughtful model that would best be overseen by Chip. It’s most important that we find players that match what our coaches are seeking.

"This new approach goes even further than we have in the past starting with Day One of the scouting process. This is part of an all-encompassing vision that takes you from the scouting process all the way to on-field performance.

"Howie, Chip and Don are all united in their desire to win. Together, we decided this approach was the best course of action for the Philadelphia Eagles.

"You have heard me say many times that I want strong leaders who feel free to express their opinions. And that is what happened here. Chip will now lead this process going forward with the continued full support of Howie, Don and myself.

"Chip will not be doing this work by himself, obviously. He has been charged with recruiting and hiring a new personnel executive that will report directly to him and together we will move forward with this new, highly integrated approach.

"When I said – after the Giants game – that Howie was returning as general manager next season, I meant that. But after carefully listening and reflecting on the lengthy discussions that I had with our senior team, I changed my mind.

"I have a very good relationship with Chip that continues to grow stronger and stronger. When we spoke, he was thoughtful, thorough and professional. There were no demands, no threats - quite the contrary - he was passionate, engaged and articulated a dynamic and clear vision on how this fully integrated approach will work. We look forward to seeing it come to life over time.

"Let me also stress that Howie will continue to play a vital role in our operation. He has been elevated to the role of Executive Vice President of Football Operations and received a contract extension."

"In closing, we have looked hard at where we are today and what we want to become. We are all united in our desire to win for this city."

-----------

For better or for worse... Chip's show now more than ever

 

[Insein]

No more excuses Chip. All on you.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

No shot Chip goes. Maybe he gets a raise but he isn't going anywhere. Gamble leaves and Oregon goes to a championship game and now we're trading our coach There's a better chance of him going to Washington and cutting Desean again.

I'm fine with it. If you're paying Chip this much let him handle it much like Belichek does in NE. So if I'm understanding this right if we're to believe Gamble was forced out it would have been Chip who ousted him, right?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

No more excuses Chip. All on you.

Yep and if you're going to take all the blame this is the way you want it. I'm a Howie fan and I just hope he sticks around through all of this.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

FYI:

@JasonLaCanfora: Howie Roseman's extension runs through the end of this decade from what I hear. Jeffrey Lurie was adamant about keeping him in Philly

 

[GoBirds]

No more excuses Chip. All on you.

Yep and if you're going to take all the blame this is the way you want it. I'm a Howie fan and I just hope he sticks around through all of this.

It's like the fat tuna said, if you want me to cook the meal I need to pick the groceries....or whatever his old ### said. Alright Chip, cook the f ING meal!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@lawlornfl: in 2001 Lurie sided with Andy Reid over Tom Modrak. A couple of years ago Lurie sided with Reid over Joe Banner. Lurie values a great coach.

 

[Mighty Mice]

No more excuses Chip. All on you.

Yep and if you're going to take all the blame this is the way you want it. I'm a Howie fan and I just hope he sticks around through all of this.

This is where I'm at. Howie is great with the cap and did an outstanding job in the 2012 draft. Very glad he got an extension to stay with the team!

If Chip is gonna coach 'em, and we're gonna run Chip's system... let him pick the players. He will reap the reward and/or shoulder the blame, and I'm fine with that.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Remember when this was a thing?

@JasonLaCanfora: Back at Oregon people have heard how upset Chip Kelly is and how he wants out of Philly w/3yrs left on his deal, can he rattle enuff chains?

Dude is a hack.

 

[Amused to Death]

Remember when this was a thing?

@JasonLaCanfora: Back at Oregon people have heard how upset Chip Kelly is and how he wants out of Philly w/3yrs left on his deal, can he rattle enuff chains?

Dude is a hack.

If you didn't hear it this afternoon,Sal Pal was on the Fanatic and had some comments for LaCanfora's "reporting". Specifically that tweet.

 

[JaxBill]

Did we ever figure out who pushed for Marcus Smith?

Chip treated him like a red-headed stepchild.

Gamble left the team but supposedly wasn't for him.

Heard different stories that it was either the DC or Howie.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Did we ever figure out who pushed for Marcus Smith?

Chip treated him like a red-headed stepchild.

Gamble left the team but supposedly wasn't for him.

Heard different stories that it was either the DC or Howie.

Drafting players was supposed to be a combination of Gamble, Howie and Chip.

I don't understand the DC or Howie part....

 

[Capella]

Mariota and Kelly are gonna make a great Qb/coach combo in the NFL. Its a shame thats gonna happen in Tampa.

Yeah after these past few weeks, if TB comes calling with his own QB and more power, does he go? Heck 10 wins down there probably gets you a statue.

No, but beating the Iggles in the NFCCG and winning the SB in 2002 did.

2008 eased that pain.

2004 added more to it

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

No more excuses Chip. All on you.

For better or for worse. Yep.

 

[Awful Waffle]

I think the coach is more important than the GM. But, the 2012 draft was all Howie (reportedly) and that was a terrific draft. Got a stud defensive linemen, potential star ILB, good slot corner (who might be good outside but we'll never know), rotational edge rusher, QB who's shown serious promise (and unbelievable awfulness), and Bryce Brown got flipped for a 3rd or 4th round pick. And now the guy who's making personnel decisions wanted to take Taylor Hart (a guy who didn't dress all season) in the 3rd round. But I hope it works out. After all, Pete Carroll runs the show in Seattle and they're doing okay. They've had some picks that made everyone laugh. Remember the reaction when Bruce Irvin was a 1st round pick? They've got Super Bowl rings because of Pete Carroll and the way he built his team. We have to trust Chip to do the same.

I'm all in on Chip Kelly. I hope he leads us to the promised land.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@CSNPhilly: Jeffrey Lurie had no choice but to put Chip Kelly in charge of perssonel, writes @RoobCSN: http://t.co/rUt9T2ghMb #EaglesTalk

Eagles owner Jeff Lurie had no choice. He did the only thing he could possibly do in the long-term interest of the team hes owned for more than 20 years.

He demoted the one person in the organization hes closest to.

The Eagles are calling general manager Howie Rosemans new role a promotion (see story). But lets be honest. They gave him a contract extension and a fancy corporate title, but in reality, Lurie wiped Roseman of his key general manager duties five days after telling reporters Roseman would absolutely return in 2015 as the Eagles general manager.

By doing so, Lurie found a way to restore some much-needed health and sanity to the Eagles teetering front office and retain head coach Chip Kelly, who has led the team to consecutive 10-6 seasons after replacing Andy Reid.

To put Luries relationship with Roseman in perspective, keep in mind that Lurie sided with Roseman when Roseman and Joe Banner were locked in a power struggle a few years ago. And Lurie and Banner were boyhood friends. Lurie hired Banner one day after buying the Eagles.

In the years since, he has promoted Roseman every opportunity possible and kept Roseman on the personnel side while losing valuable execs like Tom Heckert, Jason Licht, Ryan Grigson and just a couple days ago Tom Gamble, Kellys hand-picked personnel guy.

Roseman is a good man whos worked tirelessly to study personnel and learn how to select players, but his strength is and has always been contracts, salary cap, money.

And it took a furious Kelly following Gambles dismissal for Lurie to finally realize that the fractured front office was limiting the Eagles success.

Despite his intense loyalty to Roseman, he knew deep down that a front office with good people being forced out on a regular basis, one with a general manager alienating people around him, simply was not going to lead to the championships hes been chasing for two decades.

So this time, instead of keeping Roseman happy and eliminating whoever his latest rival was, Lurie took powerful action.

Necessary action.

Five days ago, when Lurie was asked after the Eagles-Giants game in the visiting locker room at MetLife Stadium whether Roseman would return as GM, he laughed and shook his head and said, Is that a real question?

When told it was, he replied, Absolutely.

But the model wasnt working.

The Eagles havent found a Pro Bowl defensive player in the first four rounds of the draft since Lito Sheppard in 2002. They havent drafted any Pro Bowl defensive player since Trent Cole in 2005.

Only twice in 10 years since the Super Bowl season in 2004 have the Eagles won a playoff game 2006 and 2008. The last playoff win came against the Giants six years ago.

And after meeting with Kelly over the past few days, Lurie changed his mind. Something had to change, and it had to be Howie. That had to be incredibly difficult for Lurie to accept and act on, but he did what he did for the long-term health of the franchise.

The Eagles have a better chance to reach a Super Bowl today than they did yesterday.

After 12 years in personnel and five years as general manager, Roseman as of Friday evening now holds the title executive vice president of football operations. According to the Eagles, hell continue to be in charge of salary cap and contracts and NFL strategic matters and also oversee the training and equipment staff.

And if you dont think this is a demotion, how would you like to go from picking players in the draft and signing free agents to overseeing the equipment staff?

Kelly keeps the title of head coach but like Andy Reid a decade ago, he will oversee the player personnel department, the team said in a release. His first duty will be to hire a new personnel executive, presumably a general manager.

Its an incredible amount of power for a guy whos been in the NFL for a few days less than two years and hasnt won a playoff game. But Lurie believes Kelly was a special hire, a special football mind, and hes banking his franchise on it.

It was clear the status quo wasnt working. Lurie could have kept Roseman and maybe found a way to keep Kelly for another year, and the Eagles might have won 10 more games and maybe made the playoffs.

But he knew that wasnt a model to win a title.

Ten years ago, the Eagles were in the Super Bowl. With a healthy front office consisting of Lurie, team president Joe Banner, general manager Tom Heckert and head coach Andy Reid, the Eagles went 59-21 from 2000 through 2004 the fifth-best record over a five-year span in NFL history.

I asked Lurie that week how important it was for a successful team to have a healthy front office with guys who like each other, respect each other and work well together.

The way Andy, Joe and Tom work together and the job they've done is a huge part of the success we've had," Lurie said that day at the team hotel in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida. "There's just such a great sense of, 'We're all in this together,' and when you have that, you eliminate all the negativity that you find so often with the people running football teams.

"Joe, Andy and Tom are just very low-ego guys that recognize that, as a group, you can accomplish more than you can as individuals who are more concerned with self-promotion and personal agendas.

"When you're not concerned with who gets the credit, you don't expend any wasted energy. You're just focused on doing the right thing for the organization and the rest is irrelevant.

Banner, Reid and Heckert are all long gone. And so is the remarkable success the Eagles experienced in the first half of the 2000s.

Since the Super Bowl season, the Eagles have won just three postseason games in 10 years. Only twice from 2005 through 2014 did they advance to the second round of the playoffs.

Lurie had to do something strong, something dramatic, or the Eagles were fated to continue as a second-tier team. Winning more than they lost but ultimately achieving nothing.

If Kelly is the brilliant football mind Lurie believes he is, this was the only way out.

A resounding loss for Roseman, a tremendous victory for Kelly and an elegant resolution for Lurie.

It couldnt have been easy, but Lurie had no choice. None.

 

[JetMaxx]

Kelly has 2 years to reach the Super Bowl or he's gone

 

[ShaHBucks]

Thanks Sanchez!

 

[Mighty Mice]

@CSNPhilly: Jeffrey Lurie had no choice but to put Chip Kelly in charge of perssonel, writes @RoobCSN: http://t.co/rUt9T2ghMb #EaglesTalk

Eagles owner Jeff Lurie had no choice. He did the only thing he could possibly do in the long-term interest of the team hes owned for more than 20 years.

He demoted the one person in the organization hes closest to.

The Eagles are calling general manager Howie Rosemans new role a promotion (see story). But lets be honest. They gave him a contract extension and a fancy corporate title, but in reality, Lurie wiped Roseman of his key general manager duties five days after telling reporters Roseman would absolutely return in 2015 as the Eagles general manager.

By doing so, Lurie found a way to restore some much-needed health and sanity to the Eagles teetering front office and retain head coach Chip Kelly, who has led the team to consecutive 10-6 seasons after replacing Andy Reid.

To put Luries relationship with Roseman in perspective, keep in mind that Lurie sided with Roseman when Roseman and Joe Banner were locked in a power struggle a few years ago. And Lurie and Banner were boyhood friends. Lurie hired Banner one day after buying the Eagles.

In the years since, he has promoted Roseman every opportunity possible and kept Roseman on the personnel side while losing valuable execs like Tom Heckert, Jason Licht, Ryan Grigson and just a couple days ago Tom Gamble, Kellys hand-picked personnel guy.

Roseman is a good man whos worked tirelessly to study personnel and learn how to select players, but his strength is and has always been contracts, salary cap, money.

And it took a furious Kelly following Gambles dismissal for Lurie to finally realize that the fractured front office was limiting the Eagles success.

Despite his intense loyalty to Roseman, he knew deep down that a front office with good people being forced out on a regular basis, one with a general manager alienating people around him, simply was not going to lead to the championships hes been chasing for two decades.

So this time, instead of keeping Roseman happy and eliminating whoever his latest rival was, Lurie took powerful action.

Necessary action.

Five days ago, when Lurie was asked after the Eagles-Giants game in the visiting locker room at MetLife Stadium whether Roseman would return as GM, he laughed and shook his head and said, Is that a real question?

When told it was, he replied, Absolutely.

But the model wasnt working.

The Eagles havent found a Pro Bowl defensive player in the first four rounds of the draft since Lito Sheppard in 2002. They havent drafted any Pro Bowl defensive player since Trent Cole in 2005.

Only twice in 10 years since the Super Bowl season in 2004 have the Eagles won a playoff game 2006 and 2008. The last playoff win came against the Giants six years ago.

And after meeting with Kelly over the past few days, Lurie changed his mind. Something had to change, and it had to be Howie. That had to be incredibly difficult for Lurie to accept and act on, but he did what he did for the long-term health of the franchise.

The Eagles have a better chance to reach a Super Bowl today than they did yesterday.

After 12 years in personnel and five years as general manager, Roseman as of Friday evening now holds the title executive vice president of football operations. According to the Eagles, hell continue to be in charge of salary cap and contracts and NFL strategic matters and also oversee the training and equipment staff.

And if you dont think this is a demotion, how would you like to go from picking players in the draft and signing free agents to overseeing the equipment staff?

Kelly keeps the title of head coach but like Andy Reid a decade ago, he will oversee the player personnel department, the team said in a release. His first duty will be to hire a new personnel executive, presumably a general manager.

Its an incredible amount of power for a guy whos been in the NFL for a few days less than two years and hasnt won a playoff game. But Lurie believes Kelly was a special hire, a special football mind, and hes banking his franchise on it.

It was clear the status quo wasnt working. Lurie could have kept Roseman and maybe found a way to keep Kelly for another year, and the Eagles might have won 10 more games and maybe made the playoffs.

But he knew that wasnt a model to win a title.

Ten years ago, the Eagles were in the Super Bowl. With a healthy front office consisting of Lurie, team president Joe Banner, general manager Tom Heckert and head coach Andy Reid, the Eagles went 59-21 from 2000 through 2004 the fifth-best record over a five-year span in NFL history.

I asked Lurie that week how important it was for a successful team to have a healthy front office with guys who like each other, respect each other and work well together.

The way Andy, Joe and Tom work together and the job they've done is a huge part of the success we've had," Lurie said that day at the team hotel in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida. "There's just such a great sense of, 'We're all in this together,' and when you have that, you eliminate all the negativity that you find so often with the people running football teams.

"Joe, Andy and Tom are just very low-ego guys that recognize that, as a group, you can accomplish more than you can as individuals who are more concerned with self-promotion and personal agendas.

"When you're not concerned with who gets the credit, you don't expend any wasted energy. You're just focused on doing the right thing for the organization and the rest is irrelevant.

Banner, Reid and Heckert are all long gone. And so is the remarkable success the Eagles experienced in the first half of the 2000s.

Since the Super Bowl season, the Eagles have won just three postseason games in 10 years. Only twice from 2005 through 2014 did they advance to the second round of the playoffs.

Lurie had to do something strong, something dramatic, or the Eagles were fated to continue as a second-tier team. Winning more than they lost but ultimately achieving nothing.

If Kelly is the brilliant football mind Lurie believes he is, this was the only way out.

A resounding loss for Roseman, a tremendous victory for Kelly and an elegant resolution for Lurie.

It couldnt have been easy, but Lurie had no choice. None.

Nice read. Agreed!

 

[babydemon90]

Did we ever figure out who pushed for Marcus Smith?

Chip treated him like a red-headed stepchild.

Gamble left the team but supposedly wasn't for him.

Heard different stories that it was either the DC or Howie.

Wondering about this now. Maybe this was never a Chip pick? I'm game, let's let him have his say and his program, and see what we can do. As long as we don't give away 3 1sts for Mariota of course.

 

[Billy Bats]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/15/9f/43/159f4383cf3bb643668ee4b52de9f92f.jpg

 

[Billy Bats]

Did we ever figure out who pushed for Marcus Smith?

Chip treated him like a red-headed stepchild.

Gamble left the team but supposedly wasn't for him.

Heard different stories that it was either the DC or Howie.

Wondering about this now. Maybe this was never a Chip pick? I'm game, let's let him have his say and his program, and see what we can do. As long as we don't give away 3 1sts for Mariota of course.

This seems a lot more likely tonight than it did yesterday.

 

[Insein]

Did we ever figure out who pushed for Marcus Smith?

Chip treated him like a red-headed stepchild.

Gamble left the team but supposedly wasn't for him.

Heard different stories that it was either the DC or Howie.

Wondering about this now. Maybe this was never a Chip pick? I'm game, let's let him have his say and his program, and see what we can do. As long as we don't give away 3 1sts for Mariota of course.

This seems a lot more likely tonight than it did yesterday.

The problem with that scenario is that if it fails, we'll be left holding the bill while he heads back to college.

 

[renesauz]

I'm feeling very uneasy about this situation.

me too. The speculations out there are very disturbing

 

[Hankmoody]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/15/9f/43/159f4383cf3bb643668ee4b52de9f92f.jpg

That's outstanding.

 

[jon007]

Wow I really can't believe the lack of faith from some of the responses above. This is huge guys. Basically what this all means is that Chip has done enough to earn the trust of the organization. The Eagles would have been idiots to cut loose a college coach with unproven approach with this much power right off the bat. And to say that this is a similar deal to what Andy had is big. Hold on to your nutsacks boys because this offseason might be painful.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

The last 48 hours reads like something right out of Game of Thrones or Macbeth.

 

[gchip]

I like the move overall.

Chip runs the team so he can build it as he see fits. I think he really needs to find a sharp assistant-GM who can challenge him when needed. Also, this move insulates Howie from whatever happens with Chip. Lurie definitely wants Howie around no matter what.

All in all, a bit of neat manuevring by Lurie.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Wow I really can't believe the lack of faith from some of the responses above. This is huge guys. Basically what this all means is that Chip has done enough to earn the trust of the organization. The Eagles would have been idiots to cut loose a college coach with unproven approach with this much power right off the bat. And to say that this is a similar deal to what Andy had is big. Hold on to your nutsacks boys because this offseason might be painful.

Who are we supposed to have faith in? The Eagles have been very good under Lurie, sure, but still not elite. He runs a good organization, but Andy was a big part of that as well. Seems like a lot of political maneuvering and it is still unclear whether we have the right setup to get the right personnel in. Time will tell. I believe in Chip overall, I just don't know why anyone would feel particularly good about these changes. Seems like Howie was moved to a different position somewhat against his will, Gamble may or may not have been forced out, and Kelly is now in a position that he has never held before. It may work, but right now, there is a lot of change and a lot of unknowns. That is not necessarily what I want for a team that should be poised to make the next jump.

 

[sporthenry]

I like the move overall.

Chip runs the team so he can build it as he see fits. I think he really needs to find a sharp assistant-GM who can challenge him when needed. Also, this move insulates Howie from whatever happens with Chip. Lurie definitely wants Howie around no matter what.

All in all, a bit of neat manuevring by Lurie.

Yeah, seems like this is setting up to have Howie go back to GM in a few years if the Chip experiment fails. I just don't understand the Gamble move. Obviously we aren't behind the scenes but seems like the guy was good and if Chip won this power struggle, why did they fire Gamble? Maybe it was a compromise as both sides didn't get what they want but in the process, it seems like the Eagles lost a capable front office guy.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Listening to Ray and Glen on drive home from work. Couple points: no coach recently has had that much power and won it all. Bellichick had Scott Paoli when the Pats last won a SB. Since BB assumed all power--no titles (of course two tremendous catches prevented that). Reid got worse when he assumed all the power. First thing he does in KC--admits he had too much and goes back to just concentrating on coaching.

A very scary scenario was discussed and I know it's sensational but I trust Ray more than anyone in Philly--what if Kelly, now that he has all the power mortgages the next several years to get Mariota? If it works--great but if not, Kelly goes back to college and the team is hamstrung for years.

Scary scenario. Hopefully just the stuff of radio ratings...

 

[Mighty Mice]

OK Howie, manage the cap: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/12/11/7376451/nfl-salary-cap-nflpa-2015

Numbers may be off here, as the NFLPA is arguing the cap should rise (tied to revenues, and revenue is UP)

Here is how the 2015 cap breaks down for each team, projected at $140 million:

Team Cap Space

Oakland Raiders $53,351,162

Jacksonville Jaguars $43,542,172

New York Jets $41,415,680

Cleveland Browns $38,181,890

Seattle Seahawks $34,391,030

Tennessee Titans $33,296,652

Indianapolis Colts $31,724,674

Denver Broncos $31,113,668

Tampa Bay Buccaneers $31,093,495

Chicago Bears $30,970,313

Cincinnati Bengals $29,940,910

Atlanta Falcons $26,836,029

San Diego Chargers $26,223,487

Green Bay Packers $17,784,036

Buffalo Bills $17,365,927

New York Giants $17,343,332

Detroit Lions $16,962,243

Washington $15,759,322

Houston Texans $11,072,218

Carolina Panthers $10,815,777

Minnesota Vikings $9,852,564

St. Louis Rams $5,395,253

Philadelphia Eagles $4,508,844

Pittsburgh Steelers $4,425,765

Baltimore Ravens $3,295,483

Dallas Cowboys $2,297,645

Kansas City Chiefs $1,745,325

New England Patriots $1,589,619

Miami Dolphins -$2,611,177

San Francisco 49ers -$9,087,358

Arizona Cardinals -$9,843,495

New Orleans Saints -$20,010,991

So, $4.5M to start with but certainly there will be cuts. Who's on the block? Here's a cap view for the 2015 team: http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles

Jumping off the page to me are:

1. Casey - $4M saved if cut, $0 in dead money

2. Cole - $8.4M saved if cut, $3.2M in dead money (Cole already talking about restructuring, wants to stay)

3. McCoy - $7.5M saved if cut, $4.4M in dead money (Restructuring? Was mentioned, and he played coy)

4. Carey Williams - $6.5M saved if cut, $1.66M in dead money

5. Celek - $4.8M saved if cut, $0 in dead money

Chip targeted Casey, loves Celek...hard to read if his 'personnel decision making power' allows Roseman to do anything, or if the team feels it wise. Celek is an excellent blocker and had a good 2014. IMO Casey contributed little to nothing for his $4M and that money can be used elsewhere. Cole and McCoy restructure freeing up more. I'd like to see Williams cut or dealt as well.

Be interesting to see the 'new look' front office navigate this offseason.

 

[gchip]

Listening to Ray and Glen on drive home from work. Couple points: no coach recently has had that much power and won it all. Bellichick had Scott Paoli when the Pats last won a SB. Since BB assumed all power--no titles (of course two tremendous catches prevented that). Reid got worse when he assumed all the power. First thing he does in KC--admits he had too much and goes back to just concentrating on coaching.

A very scary scenario was discussed and I know it's sensational but I trust Ray more than anyone in Philly--what if Kelly, now that he has all the power mortgages the next several years to get Mariota? If it works--great but if not, Kelly goes back to college and the team is hamstrung for years.

Scary scenario. Hopefully just the stuff of radio ratings...

From my understanding, Pete Carroll has more power. He's effectively the EVP of Football, GM & HC in Seattle. Schneider just runs the day to day of GM paperwork.

Just mentioning it as a data point.

 

[Billy Bats]

Ed Marynowitz?

Chip Kellys search for a a new personnel executive is underway.

Ed Marynowitz has emerged as a serious candidate, according to Pro Football Talk. Marynowitz is currently the Eagles assistant director of player personnel.

Prior to joining the Eagles in 2012, he worked as the director of player personnel for the University of Alabama, playing a key role in the program's recruiting efforts. He was a scouting assistant for the Dolphins before that, working alongside Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland.

The Media, Pa. native played quarterback for LaSalle University.

Marynowitz is considered one of the up-and-comers in the organization.

"Chip will not be doing this himself, obviously," said Jeffrey Lurie, upon handing full personnel authority over to Kelly. "He has been charged with recruiting and hiring a new personnel executive that will report directly to him and together we will move forward with this new, highly-integrated approach."

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/01/03/report-maryonwitz-emerges-serious-candidate/

 

[MAC_32]

OK Howie, manage the cap: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/12/11/7376451/nfl-salary-cap-nflpa-2015Numbers may be off here, as the NFLPA is arguing the cap should rise (tied to revenues, and revenue is UP)Here is how the 2015 cap breaks down for each team, projected at $140 million:Team Cap SpaceOakland Raiders $53,351,162Jacksonville Jaguars $43,542,172New York Jets $41,415,680Cleveland Browns $38,181,890Seattle Seahawks $34,391,030Tennessee Titans $33,296,652Indianapolis Colts $31,724,674Denver Broncos $31,113,668Tampa Bay Buccaneers $31,093,495Chicago Bears $30,970,313Cincinnati Bengals $29,940,910Atlanta Falcons $26,836,029San Diego Chargers $26,223,487Green Bay Packers $17,784,036Buffalo Bills $17,365,927New York Giants $17,343,332Detroit Lions $16,962,243Washington $15,759,322Houston Texans $11,072,218Carolina Panthers $10,815,777Minnesota Vikings $9,852,564St. Louis Rams $5,395,253Philadelphia Eagles $4,508,844Pittsburgh Steelers $4,425,765Baltimore Ravens $3,295,483Dallas Cowboys $2,297,645Kansas City Chiefs $1,745,325New England Patriots $1,589,619Miami Dolphins -$2,611,177San Francisco 49ers -$9,087,358Arizona Cardinals -$9,843,495New Orleans Saints -$20,010,991So, $4.5M to start with but certainly there will be cuts. Who's on the block? Here's a cap view for the 2015 team: http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eaglesJumping off the page to me are:1. Casey - $4M saved if cut, $0 in dead money2. Cole - $8.4M saved if cut, $3.2M in dead money (Cole already talking about restructuring, wants to stay)3. McCoy - $7.5M saved if cut, $4.4M in dead money (Restructuring? Was mentioned, and he played coy)4. Carey Williams - $6.5M saved if cut, $1.66M in dead money5. Celek - $4.8M saved if cut, $0 in dead moneyChip targeted Casey, loves Celek...hard to read if his 'personnel decision making power' allows Roseman to do anything, or if the team feels it wise. Celek is an excellent blocker and had a good 2014. IMO Casey contributed little to nothing for his $4M and that money can be used elsewhere. Cole and McCoy restructure freeing up more. I'd like to see Williams cut or dealt as well.Be interesting to see the 'new look' front office navigate this offseason.

Given the db situation it's gotta be hard to part with Cary, but he seemed like too much of a problem to deal with again. From a distance anyway. Axe him and a tight end then use that money to sign one wave two corner and a wave three corner then draft one sometime in the top 100. Get Cole and Shady to restructure then use that money to fix ss then draft a developmental guy day three. Probably can only get two of ol, wr, and pass rush with the rest of the day one and day two picks. Try to find a developmental qb prospect day three then whatever. Gonna be thin at several positions, but given the cap they will be no matter what they do.This is all assuming Foles is back and Sanchez is not.

 

[Insein]

OK Howie, manage the cap: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/12/11/7376451/nfl-salary-cap-nflpa-2015

Numbers may be off here, as the NFLPA is arguing the cap should rise (tied to revenues, and revenue is UP)

Here is how the 2015 cap breaks down for each team, projected at $140 million:

Team Cap Space

Oakland Raiders $53,351,162

Jacksonville Jaguars $43,542,172

New York Jets $41,415,680

Cleveland Browns $38,181,890

Seattle Seahawks $34,391,030

Tennessee Titans $33,296,652

Indianapolis Colts $31,724,674

Denver Broncos $31,113,668

Tampa Bay Buccaneers $31,093,495

Chicago Bears $30,970,313

Cincinnati Bengals $29,940,910

Atlanta Falcons $26,836,029

San Diego Chargers $26,223,487

Green Bay Packers $17,784,036

Buffalo Bills $17,365,927

New York Giants $17,343,332

Detroit Lions $16,962,243

Washington $15,759,322

Houston Texans $11,072,218

Carolina Panthers $10,815,777

Minnesota Vikings $9,852,564

St. Louis Rams $5,395,253

Philadelphia Eagles $4,508,844

Pittsburgh Steelers $4,425,765

Baltimore Ravens $3,295,483

Dallas Cowboys $2,297,645

Kansas City Chiefs $1,745,325

New England Patriots $1,589,619

Miami Dolphins -$2,611,177

San Francisco 49ers -$9,087,358

Arizona Cardinals -$9,843,495

New Orleans Saints -$20,010,991

So, $4.5M to start with but certainly there will be cuts. Who's on the block? Here's a cap view for the 2015 team: http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/philadelphia-eagles

Jumping off the page to me are:

1. Casey - $4M saved if cut, $0 in dead money

2. Cole - $8.4M saved if cut, $3.2M in dead money (Cole already talking about restructuring, wants to stay)

3. McCoy - $7.5M saved if cut, $4.4M in dead money (Restructuring? Was mentioned, and he played coy)

4. Carey Williams - $6.5M saved if cut, $1.66M in dead money

5. Celek - $4.8M saved if cut, $0 in dead money

Chip targeted Casey, loves Celek...hard to read if his 'personnel decision making power' allows Roseman to do anything, or if the team feels it wise. Celek is an excellent blocker and had a good 2014. IMO Casey contributed little to nothing for his $4M and that money can be used elsewhere. Cole and McCoy restructure freeing up more. I'd like to see Williams cut or dealt as well.

Be interesting to see the 'new look' front office navigate this offseason.

Not sure where they're getting $4.5. Eaglescap.com has it currently at $20.6mil.

 

[Grahamburn]

Mariota and Kelly are gonna make a great Qb/coach combo in the NFL. Its a shame thats gonna happen in Tampa.

Yeah after these past few weeks, if TB comes calling with his own QB and more power, does he go? Heck 10 wins down there probably gets you a statue.

27-10. So cold that day.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Mariota and Kelly are gonna make a great Qb/coach combo in the NFL. Its a shame thats gonna happen in Tampa.

Yeah after these past few weeks, if TB comes calling with his own QB and more power, does he go? Heck 10 wins down there probably gets you a statue.

27-10. So cold that day.

It was under 40 degrees!!!!!! Defied the laws of physics.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Mariota and Kelly are gonna make a great Qb/coach combo in the NFL. Its a shame thats gonna happen in Tampa.

Yeah after these past few weeks, if TB comes calling with his own QB and more power, does he go? Heck 10 wins down there probably gets you a statue.

27-10. So cold that day.

It was under 40 degrees!!!!!! Defied the laws of physics.

I was there. Feeling the collective hurt of 60+ thousand people was right up there with catching the ex-old lady with another man.