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I like where we stand. Will be interesting to re-evaluate next year (although I don't expect Huff to do much if anything this year - I think he'll be a player next year if Maclin leaves - in which case we'll have a 2nd year player with a year of experience in the system, ready to step in.)LTsharks said:
I had a buddy sent me that link. We can disagree with the talent they selected, but we can't agrue about they way they are handling the business side of things. As mentioned before, they didn't employ a Chris Gocong type of player to do a job for which he has no resume for (or my favs Macho Harris and Casey Matthews!). There may only be a handful of teams in the league ran as good as the Eagles on and off the field right now. All of the guys drafted fit whatever vision Chip has of efficient football. That I will say without a doubt. Did we get a handflul of studs? Ehhh, we'll see. It's year two for the vets transitioning to a new scheme. Now you throw in young guys who all ready have most of the concepts down. I can't wait to see how it all plays out.Amused to Death said:
I couldn't see them taking a S high. Jenkins and Earl Wolff were penciled in as starters to me. Last year was a really deep Safety class. Earl Wolff came at a discount for that very reason. He'd be one of the top safeties in this class. Wolff is a better athlete than Clinton- Dix. It's not even close actually.LTsharks said:
Nice addition to the list!
That's why even though this isn't the flashiest draft for the Eagles it is a draft that follows his plan. They draft players that are made to fit his offense and the 3-4 defensive scheme. They all are hard working and are diligent. Most possess leadership qualities. Are they not on the higher end talent wise, possibly. But neither were some of the Seahawk players that absolutely demolished Denver. Kelly has a plan, that's more than what we can say when Reid was President of Football operations.
I'm actually a little excited about Allen. I want to see what Chip and Co. can get out of him. I'm a fan of huge NT's in a 3-4 and if they can lite a fire under him he could see some decen PT this year behind Logan.
Agree 100%! Can personally see this guy becoming my favorite player. Very excited. Here's something: knowing what we know now about our first two picks, if they were selected first Mathews than Smith, how would we all feel? I bet almost no one would be complaining.
Kiper basically said the same thing on Mike and Mike this morning. He said he felt "on his big board" they reached a little for Smith. However, if they would have grabbed Matthews first, then Smith in the second, it would have been considered a great draft.
I think there would be complaints about taking Matthews that high when Lee was still on the board. But then again, after hearing about the injury may be not so much.
Given that the WR pool was far deeper than the pass rush pool, I think the Birds made the right choice. Smith was less likely to drop than a suitable WR.
If Smith is picked just 7 picks later no one, in any city, says anything because he was projected to go in round 2 and did...
Do you actually think Ha Ha WASN'T one of the '6 players we wanted but were taken" according to Chip??? I think he was definitely on that list.
It may be possible of course, but highly unlikely based on how everything went. The fact that they thought about and tried to trade up, the fact that he said there were 6 players (when looking at the list, I doubt it would have been any of the QB's/Olinemen. Probably a pretty safe bet Ha Ha was on that list even though ya it feels better pretending he wasn't.
Only time will tell of he's great but he wasn't even the first safety taken, that should say enough IMO.
I read or heard somewhere in the recent post-draft hubbub that if Earl Wolff had been in this draft he'd have been the top ranked safety, above ha ha and Pryor. FWIW
Ya I'm really going to be cheering against him now and hope that he isn't good!
Im really looking for Wolfe to bounce back big this year. He had an injury that hampered him for most of the season so we dobt really know what he has. If hes a hige upgrade from last year, that will solve a lot of problems.
Yes I just hope we will be okay at DB this year. Seems the last few years that has been our major need and we haven't really drafted the CB/S position that hard and instead just picked guys up. Probably will be addressed in next year's draft early on.
Sal Pal stated earlier today that the Eagles were definitely targeting Cooks & they had to readjust after Saints jumped up for him.Bigboy10182000 said:
Sounds good.I wouldn't mind addressing it next year with the 32nd overall pick.
Didinger seemed to think that it started falling apart for them at 18 when Pryor went, compounded by the Saints jumping up for Cooks and then Ha Ha going. Then when they slid back, Ford (who he was always high on) and the two CB's go and kind of threw them off. Said he definitely would have gone Bucannon.
I know people arent that high on the Huff pick but I think this guy is going to be a great #3 possible #2. He has the body and ball skills to be a red zone threat. Matthews and Huff will be here in 2 years. Maclin and Cooper will not.
i have no problem with Huff.
They're competing for the job for sure. If Wolff can't beat out Allen by now he probably doesn't have much of a future.
Wolffe and Ertz are two guys that are going to break out this year. Ertz second year in this offense. No Rookie worries. Wolfe no injuries hopefully. Should take a big step up with a steady veteran opposite him.
i'm very high on Ertz value, but don't see those kind of numbers. I think they're actually going to play a matchup game each week where we'll see Ertz, Sproles, Matthews & Huff in those #3 and #4 WR type positions based on who they're going against and how they adjust to our different personnel groups. Celek's blocking (and now underrated receiving ability) will see him hang on to the inline Y position for another year, although I think the "11" group wont' be as heavily used as last year. I expect to see more of 4 split receivers as they try and create more space in the box. Ertz may get some time as the Y but I see his value as being higher when he's used as a H-back / slot option than as a true TE. 55/700/8 is where my money's at. Big change this year in the number of viable RZ targets, apart from Sproles the top 7 or so passing targets should all be good options down there.
I do see them spreading the ball but I think Kelly will look at a defense each week and say, Ertz can beat their LB or slot corner. Foles will then have him as the first option a lot of the time. Doesn't always mean it's going there but I think he will be the main receiving threat this year. Going forward I see Matthews taking that over with Ertz balancing it out. Just my opinion of course.
