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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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Spartans Rule
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That ending ruined my day. Really wanted to see Ivory Coast get out of group for once. And there's nobody I'd less like to see move on than Greece.
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Updated
Confederation Records So Far*: W-D-L (points per game)
South America: 12-1-3 (2.3)
Africa: 3-2-7 (0.9)
UEFA: 8-5-9 (1.3)
Concacaf: 5-3-2 (1.8)
Asia: 0-3-7 (0.3)
Confederation Records So Far*: W-D-L (points per game)
South America: 12-1-3 (2.3)
Africa: 3-2-7 (0.9)
UEFA: 8-5-9 (1.3)
Concacaf: 5-3-2 (1.8)
Asia: 0-3-7 (0.3)
The Gator
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No matter what happens in later games, the US will now finish ahead of Italy, Spain, England, Croatia, Cameroon, Australia, Bosnia, Japan, Ivory Coast and at least one of Portugal/Ghana.
B Maverick
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http://msn.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/luis-suarez-bite-wins-5600-for-bettor-062414
Not everyone was mad at Luis Suarez for biting Giorgio Chiellini during Uruguay's World Cup match against Italy on Tuesday.
One Norwegian man won $5,600 thanks to Suarez's habit of sinking his teeth into his opponents.
According to Afterposten, Norway's largest newspaper, Thomas Syversen took a chance on the 175-to-1 odds that Suarez would bite someone during the match.
"This is probably the sickest game I've handed in, not to mention the sickest game I've won," Syversen told Afterposten (the quote was then translated).
Sick, indeed.
Not everyone was mad at Luis Suarez for biting Giorgio Chiellini during Uruguay's World Cup match against Italy on Tuesday.
One Norwegian man won $5,600 thanks to Suarez's habit of sinking his teeth into his opponents.
According to Afterposten, Norway's largest newspaper, Thomas Syversen took a chance on the 175-to-1 odds that Suarez would bite someone during the match.
"This is probably the sickest game I've handed in, not to mention the sickest game I've won," Syversen told Afterposten (the quote was then translated).
Sick, indeed.
Eephus
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The Gator
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I did not expect Asia to be any where near this bad. Since the WC expanded to 32 teams, I am unsure any region (ignoring Oceania) has gone through a WC with 0 wins.
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I have been watching the WC in depth since TNT was butchering the broadcasts back in 1990.
This has been with out a doubt the best group stage games ever and it might not be close,
Lots of goals, lots of late goals, come backs, heart wrenching plays, an idiot biting people, we got it all.
Dinsy Ejotuz
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NewlyRetired
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one thing is clear.
If you were not a troll/basher and were generally interested in giving the sport a chance, and you still found you did not like it after watching any non Iran-Nigeria game, then it is safe to say you are likely never to enjoy the sport. It rarely comes better than this at the international level.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Goals by league -update
EPL - 23
Bundesliga - 21
La Liga - 17
Serie A - 11
Ligue 1 - 9
Primeira Liga - 6
Liga MX - 5
MLS - 4
Eredivisie - 3
Brasileiro - 3
Russian Premier - 2
English Championship - 1
Argentine Primera - 1
Belgian Pro - 1
K League - 1
Honduran Liga Nacional - 1
UAE Arabian Gulf League - 1
Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 - 1
Turkish Süper Lig - 1
Greek Superleague - 1
Scottish Premier League - 1
Own goal (La Liga) -1
Own goal (Honduran Liga Nacional) - 1
Own goal (Bundesliga) - 1
EPL - 23
Bundesliga - 21
La Liga - 17
Serie A - 11
Ligue 1 - 9
Primeira Liga - 6
Liga MX - 5
MLS - 4
Eredivisie - 3
Brasileiro - 3
Russian Premier - 2
English Championship - 1
Argentine Primera - 1
Belgian Pro - 1
K League - 1
Honduran Liga Nacional - 1
UAE Arabian Gulf League - 1
Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 - 1
Turkish Süper Lig - 1
Greek Superleague - 1
Scottish Premier League - 1
Own goal (La Liga) -1
Own goal (Honduran Liga Nacional) - 1
Own goal (Bundesliga) - 1
El Floppo
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El Floppo
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I don't know if they do it any more but FIFA used to use a countries exact placement in the previous 3 world cups in some of their seeding formulas. They definitely did not treat a team who did not advance with 4 points the same as a team who got blown out in all three games, nor should they.
The US has every right to be proud of how they played even if they don't advance while there are some other countries that should not be feeling good at all IMO.
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El Floppo
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they don't seem to be generating a lot of discussion, but these updates are VERY cool to see, Ted- thanks!
And that's not far from where I'd put MLS worldwide, so something seems to be about right there.
Spartans Rule
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I don't know either, but Samaras, currently a free agent, played for Celtic last year. I assume his goals just don't count in that list.
El Floppo
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I think Ted is likely using who ever they played for last (which makes sense) and not who they are currently signed with, else Villa might have gone under MLS instead of La Liga as I think Ted correctly put him.
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The Gator
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I enjoy reading them too.
We got a blast of own goals early but none since. I think someone (Chet?) bet the under of 3.5 on own goals. That is still alive.
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Thanks to everyone who said Samaras. That must be the player.
Spartans Rule
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In that case SPL should have 2. And I didn't realize that was a hand-compiled list. Ted's doing some awesome work then.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
FIFA has gone away from this for at least the last 2 World Cups (maybe 3 even) and just use the FIFA World Rankings published about a month before the final draw. But this is FIFA. They have been known to changed the rules of the game late if it would so suit them. Given that the next World Cup is in Europe and the poor showing that that continent has had this World Cup (and the fact that you can expect a large number of the teams that have made the knock-out round this time to return - probably 4 if not 5 CONMEBOL, potentially 3 CONCACAF, I can't fathom that they would go back to the old way using weighted results from previous World Cups in the formula. Europe wouldn't stand for it.
-QG
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sporthenry
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The Gator
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I am an idiot. I was thinking of the red card in the Italy game.Probably the game deciding one....
The Gator
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You're not, just a lot of games to keep up with gbI am an idiot. I was thinking of the red card in the Italy game.Probably the game deciding one....
Not an idiot - poorly worded question - but yes, the Greek penalty kick,I am an idiot. I was thinking of the red card in the Italy game.Probably the game deciding one....
Eephus
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The group games will be heavily weighted in the next FIFA rankings. Paradoxically, the rankings are probably their most accurate immediately following the tournament (except for the non-qualifiers) and less accurate towards the end of the four year cycle when they're actually used for something meaningful.
Dinsy Ejotuz
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Just brutal for a Liverpool fan. He's a genius on the field and obviously carried the team to the CL again after several years out. But he's also a complete POS and it's basically impossible to cheer for the guy now.
Pains me to say, but I hope they offload him for what they can get at this point.
The Gator
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The FIFA rankings are actually pretty straight forward - they are weighted for 4 years current year = 100% - and WC finals have the highest importance - 4
The federations you play are each weighted slightly differently - Euro and CONMEBOL teams are weighted 1, CONCACAF 0.88, AFC and CAF = .86, and Oceania = .85. When teams from different federations play, the coefficient is averaged - so a win against a Euro team is worth more than a win against an AFC team.
Here are the rankings with a little tool that allows you to see how many points they have accumulated since the last ranking.
The federations you play are each weighted slightly differently - Euro and CONMEBOL teams are weighted 1, CONCACAF 0.88, AFC and CAF = .86, and Oceania = .85. When teams from different federations play, the coefficient is averaged - so a win against a Euro team is worth more than a win against an AFC team.
Here are the rankings with a little tool that allows you to see how many points they have accumulated since the last ranking.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
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Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
That's pretty much how I'm doing it, with the exception of players on loan where the loan ran out. In those cases, I've been giving those goals to whichever league owns the player's contract.
For example, EPL got Joel Campbell's goals even though he was loaned to Olympiacos last year.
Dinsy Ejotuz
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Arbitrage opportunity on Suarez moving... one book has it 11/10 he leaves, one has it 5/4 he goes. Will close soon I'm sure, but a thousand on both bets would net you 100 or 250 -- can't lose.
ETA: Heh. Took about 90 seconds for someone to eliminate that.
ETA: Heh. Took about 90 seconds for someone to eliminate that.
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