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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (2 Viewers)
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TheIronSheik
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SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
What happens if someone scores 5?Christo said:
I love the group stage.
:headexplodes:
Jaysus
Good times!
Jayrod
Footballguy
I thought this was the case, and this chart shows it is true......head to head result is not even considered in the tie breakers.Christo said:
I love the group stage.
It also doesn't have a line for Ghana winning 4-2, which would put us out if we don't tie or win.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
sporthenry
Footballguy
H2H would be the tie breaker if Ghana wins and USA loses with the exact same scores.I thought this was the case, and this chart shows it is true......head to head result is not even considered in the tie breakers.Christo said:
I love the group stage.
It also doesn't have a line for Ghana winning 4-2, which would put us out if we don't tie or win.
CBusAlex
Footballguy
Head to head is the third tiebreaker, after goals differential and goals scored. All those random blue spots in the top half show the US winning on the H2H tiebreaker over Ghana.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Not able to watch from work, Lallana and Shaw updates would be hugely appreciated from those who can. TIA.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
gump
Footballguy
The SBJ guy was on satellite a minute ago.
He says that MLS only got a 2% bump in viewers after the '10 Cup.
Based on that, doesn't think MLS gets much from this one either....despite the huge numbers.
Says it's clear become a big EVENT, but it's not a reflection of the sport in this country.
Thoughts?
He says that MLS only got a 2% bump in viewers after the '10 Cup.
Based on that, doesn't think MLS gets much from this one either....despite the huge numbers.
Says it's clear become a big EVENT, but it's not a reflection of the sport in this country.
Thoughts?
The Gator
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
TheIronSheik
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
There's a diversity of opinion over whether growing the sport need be synonous with growing MLS.
With that said MLS is as healthy now as it has ever been.
The Gator
Footballguy
sporthenry
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
damn you AT&T, network issues so I can not watch right now!
Jayrod
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Trying to simplify all that...using the odds at 538...
USA wins or USA draws = 37% chance
USA loses and Portugal/Ghana draw = 18%
USA loses and Portugal or Ghana win, but US still advances = 21%
USA loses and Portugal or Ghana win and US fails to advance = 24%
So we're still better than 50/50 (39/63) with a loss, and even a US loss and winner in the other game leaves it close to 50/50 (21/45).
USA wins or USA draws = 37% chance
USA loses and Portugal/Ghana draw = 18%
USA loses and Portugal or Ghana win, but US still advances = 21%
USA loses and Portugal or Ghana win and US fails to advance = 24%
So we're still better than 50/50 (39/63) with a loss, and even a US loss and winner in the other game leaves it close to 50/50 (21/45).
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JaxBill
Footballguy
MLS teams circa 2010 had far fewer World Cup players on them.
MLS might not get a huge pop but the league's interest was growing at a huge rate anyway.
gump
Footballguy
Was thinking that...but what are the other gauges of growth?
Obviously deals like the ESPN-EPL...but what else is out there?
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Sitting with an Azurri fan club at a local bar. Covertly rooting for Uruguay.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Yeah... MLS is doing *ok*. And I don't really see people jumping into MLS with both feet because of the WC.
But... I do see people similar to the ones in this thread, looking for other Cups to follow (Euro, Copa America) and checking out an EPL/La Liga or Champions League game or three. And then maybe poking around MLS once they've figured out whether they're more interested or not.
El Floppo
Footballguy
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Bumpity for todayOkay time for more scenarios.
Group C: Greece's ugliness might be rewarded yet - that 0-0 result wasn't the worst thing for them. Though it naturally was better for Colombia and Cote D'Ivoire. Japan's inability to capitalize on the man-advantage has them just about cooked. Anyway.
Colombia: Has clinched a spot in the knock out round.
Will finish first with:
1) a win or tie vs Japan
or 2) a loss and a loss or tie by Cote D'Ivoire
or 3) a loss and a win by Cote D'Ivoire where the combined margin of the games is 3 or less.
or 4) a loss and a win by Cote D'Ivoire where the combined margin of games is exactly 4 and Cote D'Ivoire fails to outscore Colombia by 3 or more.
Cote D'Ivoire:
Will finish first with:
1) a win and a loss by Colombia where the combined marging of the games is 5 or more.
or 2) a win and a loss by Colombia where the combined margin of the games is exactly 4 and Cote D'Ivoire outscores Colombia by 3 or more.
Will clinch a spot in the knock out round with:
1) a win
or 2) a tie and a Japan loss or tie
or 3) a tie and a Japan win by exactly 1 and Japan fails to outscore Cote D'Ivoire by 3 or more.
Cote D'Ivoire is out with a loss.
Greece
Will clinch a spot in the knock out round with:
1) a win and a Japan loss or tie
or 2) a win and a Japan win and Greece's margin of victory is at least 3 goals more than Japan's margin of victory
or 3) a win and a Japan win and Greece's margin of victory is exactly 2 goals more than Japans' margin of victory and Greece outscores Japan by at least 2 goals
or 4) a win and a Japan win and Greece's margin of victory is exactly 2 goals more than Japan's margin of victory and Greece outscores Japan by exactly 1 goal and Greece wins the ensuing drawing of lots.
Greece is out with a loss or tie
Japan
Will clinch a spot in the knockout round with:
1) a win by 2 or more goals and a Cote D'Ivoire tie
or 2) a win by exactly 1 and a Cote D'Ivoire tie and Japan outscores Cote D'Ivoire by 3 or more
or 3) a win and a Greece win and Greece's margin of victory is not more than 1 greater than Japan's margin of victory
or 4) a win and a Greece win and Greece's margin of victory is exactly 2 greater than Japan's margin of victory and Greece fails to outscore Japan
or 5) a win and a Greece win and Greece's margin of victory is exactly 2 greater than Japan's margin of victoyr and Greece outscores Japan by exactly 1 goal and Japan wins the ensuing drawing of lots.
Japan is out with a loss or tie.
So there ya go
Pretty simple, eh?
-QG
-QG
El Floppo
Footballguy
getting more tiresome than the actual embellishment, but carry on if you feel you really need to.
Eephus
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I tend to agree with this. If it was more convenient to watch and get invested in, I probably would. I'm not sure how I would go about finding a rooting interest in something like EPL... My initial lean would be New England Revolution given my Boston heritage and a lack of any "local" team here in Memphis... but just don't know if I could bring myself to care as much as I do for a US side in WC match.
Once the US is eliminated, I'll still be able to enjoy the matches due to the extremely high skill level and fan passion... two things that are somewhat absent in MLS matches from what I understand.
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B Maverick
Footballguy
Balotelli booked, missed rd of 16 if they advance... whos surprised?
El Floppo
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
MLS has always played the long game. I think Garber & Co. have to be very pleased with the past two weeks.
Jayrod
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