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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Goals by league -update

EPL - 27

Bundesliga - 27

La Liga - 22

Serie A - 12

Ligue 1 - 11

Primeira Liga - 8

Liga MX - 5

Russian Premier - 5

MLS - 4

Eredivisie - 3

Brasileiro - 3

English Championship - 2

UAE Arabian Gulf League - 2

Turkish Süper Lig - 2

Argentine Primera - 1

Belgian Pro - 1

K League - 1

Honduran Liga Nacional - 1

Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 - 1

Greek Superleague - 1

Scottish Premier League - 1

Croatian Prva Liga - 1

Own goal (La Liga) -1

Own goal (Honduran Liga Nacional) - 1

Own goal (Bundesliga) - 1

Own goal (Ligue 1) - 1

 
Freakanomics new book as a section on PKs - statistically right down the middle is the best place to put the ball.
As an kid playing goalie I argued with my coach that I would rather react to what I see than guess a side. I figured most kids could not place a shot well enough if I took away the space I could cover in the middle.

I suspect that at the professional level you can't consistently do that since putting the ball in the corner is simple enough if you know you have the room to miss a bit inside. I do think that goalies should mix in not guessing though.
At the youth/high school level, I think the best reaction is to look at the direction the shooter's plant foot is pointing towards as they take the shot and go that way. But at the pro level, I see players purposely trick the keeper with their plant foot and go the opposite way. And of course you can always slow roll it after the keeper dives early to a side.

 
Freakanomics new book as a section on PKs - statistically right down the middle is the best place to put the ball.
As an kid playing goalie I argued with my coach that I would rather react to what I see than guess a side. I figured most kids could not place a shot well enough if I took away the space I could cover in the middle.

I suspect that at the professional level you can't consistently do that since putting the ball in the corner is simple enough if you know you have the room to miss a bit inside. I do think that goalies should mix in not guessing though.
The first PK lesson is to watch the shooters plant foot...and to react in that direction as he's kicking....but that probably loses it's meaning at around age 15.
I had two "tricks" - look at the players eyes - they will look where the player wants to kick it usually when he is lining up the kick. The second was rather cheesy, but it worked fairly effectively at lower level competition. I would line up slightly to one side - not enough that it was obvious, but enough that I was clearly not in the middle. Then as the ball was being kicked I was diving to the other side.

 
Freakanomics new book as a section on PKs - statistically right down the middle is the best place to put the ball.
As an kid playing goalie I argued with my coach that I would rather react to what I see than guess a side. I figured most kids could not place a shot well enough if I took away the space I could cover in the middle.

I suspect that at the professional level you can't consistently do that since putting the ball in the corner is simple enough if you know you have the room to miss a bit inside. I do think that goalies should mix in not guessing though.
The first PK lesson is to watch the shooters plant foot...and to react in that direction as he's kicking....but that probably loses it's meaning at around age 15.
You beat me to it.

 
Freakanomics new book as a section on PKs - statistically right down the middle is the best place to put the ball.
So statistically the goalie should just stay put?
Yes and no - the primary reason the chances are better if you kick it down the middle are that at the elite level - keepers will dive to their right 57% of the time, and to their left 41% of the time. Also, by kicking down the middle the kicker has last chance of missing the goal (or hitting the post as we saw yesterday).

 
Freakanomics new book as a section on PKs - statistically right down the middle is the best place to put the ball.
As an kid playing goalie I argued with my coach that I would rather react to what I see than guess a side. I figured most kids could not place a shot well enough if I took away the space I could cover in the middle.

I suspect that at the professional level you can't consistently do that since putting the ball in the corner is simple enough if you know you have the room to miss a bit inside. I do think that goalies should mix in not guessing though.
The first PK lesson is to watch the shooters plant foot...and to react in that direction as he's kicking....but that probably loses it's meaning at around age 15.
Another old strategy was for the GK not to line up dead center but favor one side to encourage the shooter to go that way.

 
Freakanomics new book as a section on PKs - statistically right down the middle is the best place to put the ball.
As an kid playing goalie I argued with my coach that I would rather react to what I see than guess a side. I figured most kids could not place a shot well enough if I took away the space I could cover in the middle.

I suspect that at the professional level you can't consistently do that since putting the ball in the corner is simple enough if you know you have the room to miss a bit inside. I do think that goalies should mix in not guessing though.
The first PK lesson is to watch the shooters plant foot...and to react in that direction as he's kicking....but that probably loses it's meaning at around age 15.
Another old strategy was for the GK not to line up dead center but favor one side to encourage the shooter to go that way.
:oldunsure:

 
Freakanomics new book as a section on PKs - statistically right down the middle is the best place to put the ball.
As an kid playing goalie I argued with my coach that I would rather react to what I see than guess a side. I figured most kids could not place a shot well enough if I took away the space I could cover in the middle.

I suspect that at the professional level you can't consistently do that since putting the ball in the corner is simple enough if you know you have the room to miss a bit inside. I do think that goalies should mix in not guessing though.
The first PK lesson is to watch the shooters plant foot...and to react in that direction as he's kicking....but that probably loses it's meaning at around age 15.
Another old strategy was for the GK not to line up dead center but favor one side to encourage the shooter to go that way.
:oldunsure:
You didn't dream it up yourself, guy.

 
Robben admitted to diving to the Dutch media. :lmao:
Christo and Mario Kart's heads just exploded.
Not talking about the one at the end
That really doesn't make it any better.
Other than the fact that we still know you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
I love how you think you're the former manager of the Peru soccer team. :lmao:

Soccer's not that complicated, Carlos.

 
Robben admitted to diving to the Dutch media. :lmao:
Christo and Mario Kart's heads just exploded.
Not talking about the one at the end
That really doesn't make it any better.
Other than the fact that we still know you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
I love how you think you're the former manager of the Peru soccer team. :lmao:

Soccer's not that complicated, Carlos.
Yet it would seem so from reading your posts.

 
85-year-old Brazilian fan swaps unused 1950 final ticket for 2014 one
In a World Cup of charming human interest stories, this might just be the clincher.
85-year-old Joedir Belmont had a ticket for the 1950 World Cup final in Brazil but, for a number of reasons, he was unable to attend one of the most famous games in the history of the sport.

A few months ago he sent a letter to FIFA explaining that he had an unused ticket in his possession after hearing a football museum was due to open. On Friday, he handed it over to FIFA Secretary General Jerome Valcke and was rewarded for his generosity with tickets to this year’s final for him and two of his children.

Belmont will be hoping Brazil can make it all the way and not blow it on the day like they did last time. He might not make another one in 64 years time.
http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/06/85-year-old-brazilian-fan-swaps-unused-1950-final-ticket-for-2014-one/

 
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Why did the Greek HC leave the field?
He got tossed
Wow, why?
After the final whistle he came out and gave the ref an earful and continued to do so while the ref was trying to get the PK process going. Finally the ref had enough and sent him off. He stuck around and discussed PK strategy with his staff until a FIFA admin came to take him away. My guess is that he would have been suspended for the next match had Greece won and the team will get a hefty fine for him not leaving in a timely fashion.

 
Why did the Greek HC leave the field?
He got tossed
Wow, why?
After the final whistle he came out and gave the ref an earful and continued to do so while the ref was trying to get the PK process going. Finally the ref had enough and sent him off. He stuck around and discussed PK strategy with his staff until a FIFA admin came to take him away. My guess is that he would have been suspended for the next match had Greece won and the team will get a hefty fine for him not leaving in a timely fashion.
He timed it perfectly--his contract runs out in the next day or two. Would have been interesting to see the story unfold if Greece had advanced.

 
Well, that was an entertaining.

Also, gotta note the textbook penalty kicks taken. Even the miss was a good shot.

 
Can someone explain something that happened in the Mexico-Netherlands game. It's 1-1 in stoppage time, 6 minutes of extra time was to be played, Mexico commits a foul in the box around 91:17. After everything that happens, the Dutch score, and the ball is put back in play, the clock is near 94:11. The clock continues to run and the whistle blows near the 96:30 mark. At the very minimum shouldn't the clock go until 98:50?

And if it's normal to blow the whistle where they did, around 96:30, why the hell did the Mexican players complain enough to get a yellow card, stand in front of the guy taking the PK, and send in a substitute? All wasted tons of time when they needed it so desperately.

 
Can someone explain something that happened in the Mexico-Netherlands game. It's 1-1 in stoppage time, 6 minutes of extra time was to be played, Mexico commits a foul in the box around 91:17. After everything that happens, the Dutch score, and the ball is put back in play, the clock is near 94:11. The clock continues to run and the whistle blows near the 96:30 mark. At the very minimum shouldn't the clock go until 98:50?

And if it's normal to blow the whistle where they did, around 96:30, why the hell did the Mexican players complain enough to get a yellow card, stand in front of the guy taking the PK, and send in a substitute? All wasted tons of time when they needed it so desperately.
It's an inexact aspect of the game, something that doesn't work well with us. But the way I look at it, it's not "our" game and we haven't earned a right yet to be the voice of change, despite our cultural inclination to do so.

 
I'm sorta with Z, though instead of a running clock, American football could function quite well without a clock at all. Just have a play count instead, the clock is an unnecessary complication.

 
The Z Machine said:
El Floppo said:
QuizGuy66 said:
The Z Machine said:
Arguably surpassed Mexico in Concacaf, but Mexico brings it in the world cup.
If by "it" you mean round of sixteen exits - then yes.-QG
:wub: :bye: mesko
Still not really understanding the hate. If it's a rivalry thing, I get that. But it seems to run deeper than that for you.
I've been to a few US v Mexico games in my life. Mexican fans ruin a good team by being raging #######s en masse. The #### I've seen first hand, let alone heard about happening in Mexico gives me all the reason in the world have a lifetime of distaste and disgust for that team... even if I can admit to respecting how they play.

 
Why did the Greek HC leave the field?
He got tossed
Wow, why?
After the final whistle he came out and gave the ref an earful and continued to do so while the ref was trying to get the PK process going. Finally the ref had enough and sent him off. He stuck around and discussed PK strategy with his staff until a FIFA admin came to take him away. My guess is that he would have been suspended for the next match had Greece won and the team will get a hefty fine for him not leaving in a timely fashion.
Thanks. Appreciate the info

 

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