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*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (2 Viewers)
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gump
Footballguy
It's basically true...and funny and timely. But it's not like we did anything others didn't from those days. And I don't think many would claim one as bad as the above....our '41 claim is pretty bad....'66 a little iffy...but we got completely screwed in '65 and some think '77 was a shaft...pretty much evens out. But '41 is usually the one people latch on to.Coincidentally, the highly-respected Alabama beat writer Cecil Hurt is lobbying for a removal of '41 from our list...and is getting a lot of support.
GoFishTN
Footballguy
If by those days you mean the 1980s when the sports information director added them in, no, I don't think anyone else was doing that.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
I talked to two Auburn fans about this one, both Auburn grads. One I talked to before the game and she said she'd root for Alabama for SEC pride. The other I talked to after the game and he was in my office bragging about how great the SEC was and marveling at the comments Brian Kelly made during the halftime interview.So two As straight from the horses mouth.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Climax of the season just ended- don't see any problem with vacationing now, recharging the battery, and starting anew next week. Guy just finished working for almost 6 straight months, probably a lot of crazy hours too. Spend some time with the family and start mentally preparing for next season.'gump said:
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Meanwhile Nick Saban is working his ### off.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
What's the logic of the Pac-12 putting it's marquee game of the year on a Thursday night going head to head against the NFL?http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/1/10/3861610/2013-pac-12-football-schedule
MAC_32
Footballguy
Saban is that guy that works 100 hour weeks with no life to create an A+ product. Competitors see his success and demand the same result from their guys, which even if they work 100 hour weeks they may not be able to do. As a college coach I would be looking for the boss that demands your best, but doesn't expect you to work that crazy amount of hours year round to make it happen. Work-life balance.
The Commish
Footballguy
There's a link out there somewhere (can't find it at the moment) applying what is believed to be the logic for all the Alabama "championships" to other schools. I want to say ND had 3-4 more than they do today, Michigan had 4-5. I'm still hunting...it was pretty funny. This is pretty much why I do the "championship" thing. It's all a big joke.
The Commish
Footballguy
During his press conference he said something to the affect of "We'll enjoy it for 2 days then start working on next year". I'd shoot myself if my job demanded that of me. Screw looking for a different job.
Slider6
Footballguy
There is a recruiting quiet period during the holidays, so the coaches can't travel or anything to see kids. They can only call. Then right after the BCSNC game there is a dead period while all of the coaches are at the coaches convention. Being in bowl games doesn't put a coach at a loss in recruiting.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Yep. No issue with a coach wanting to do it as long as he's successful doing it. Expecting it? I'd look for work elsewhere. I would expect a coach to work long hours from late July until early September and very long hours from early September until season's end, but at that point if he needs a few days - enjoy, see you in a few days. If he wants to wait until recruiting season is over, same deal. During the offseason, work hard when you're not on vacation (however many days that is) and obviously need to be around for spring practices and other meaningful events.These guys don't need to be well compensated slaves to be successful, some may think it but it's not the case...some (most?) places anyway. Can't expect every employer to be reasonable.
The Pac-12 title game is on a Saturday.
Exactly. I was watching a Spurrier interview the other night about how he can't wait for recruiting to be over so he can enjoy golf season and hit the beaches.
http://www.garnetandblackattack.com/2013/1/4/3837726/steve-spurrier-likes-to-grind-but-only-in-moderation
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Okay, but that says nothing about how much coverage they can get.
Stoops actually cancelled junior visits to hit the trail for this class.How did Saban lose several weeks of recruiting focus to his competition? They were all playing in bowl games last week.
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Premier
Footballguy
Right. Nobody cares about that one.
Slider6
Footballguy
I believe the dead period ended at midnight. I think the convention was earlier this week.
Slider6
Footballguy
Read the long article that was posted after you asked for a link. In it they say the policies cost something like 50K per 1M. So, how many families have the money to put into a policy for $10's of millions? Willis would have been a Top 3 pick and he only had a $2.5M policy.
gump
Footballguy
There was extra work put into BCS Champ prep reportedly, plus the extra 6+ days (with most rivals being over 6). I just saw where Saban said he was behind now on recruiting...but again not everyone has his schedule. I was assuming every BCS Champ coach would fall behind to some degree.
As I said, that says nothing about how much coverage they can get.
I might be off on this, but it was a dead period and you are only allowed a certain amount of calls/contacts per week, right?
gump
Footballguy
I don't know....he may have been referring to recruit film work, eval, etc. He is going thru some other things too like helping juniors determine if they are leaving early and negotiating with coaches to stay or finding replacements. It just seems like you could wait 4 weeks until after NSD. Or course then spring prep needs to start. My head hurts.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
BigJohn
Footballguy
So, he ends up where he was going to go from the start... <_<ETA: the interview had nothing to do with him leaving. It's just the excuse he's going to use.
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SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Max I believe is 3 million. According to the article I posted. I guess if someone was had the money and was willing to purchase a very expensive policy the sky would be the limit on coverage. Sam Bradford's father sells insurance and was pretty informative about the whole process.
You should go back and re-read your article:
The Commish
Footballguy
From a "championship" perspective....Bo's quote in my sig pretty much sums up my thoughts. That we are having discussion like this solidifies those thoughts.
cheese
Footballguy
When Dantonio took over he basically started over with recruiting, erased all the old offers, and took all his own guys and nobody even cared then. This year, it seems to be a big deal that Tuberville didn't want a few of the kids that Butch had committed. Is this uncommon for new coaches? Since our other recent hires did the same thing, I had assumed it was normal.Bottom line is Tuberville should be able to get a higher level of recruit than Jones/UC had coming in (he already has in several cases) and it's not surprising some of the kids are bitter about it.
BigJohn
Footballguy
I'm guessing the non-contact to make these kids aware is the rub. If he had let them know when he first started, I doubt it becomes an issue.
The Commish
Footballguy
Not sure it's that he doesn't want the kids and would rather his own. I doubt anyone has a problem with that. It's being the doosh and just ignoring them. Not even extending himself to tell them he's going a different direction.'cheese said:
The Commish
Footballguy
cheese
Footballguy
It's pretty obvious he is stalling because he isn't sure how many of the previous recruits he needs to stick around or which ones are the best ones. There is also a dead period involved. The kids have basically been told if they want to move on due to the timing, go for it. The kids with limited options are angry at him, but they would have been no matter how he handled getting rid of them.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yeah that is a #### move. An early signing period would prevent these kids from getting screwed at the last minute. On the other hand does the kid want to be stuck at Cincinnati with a new coach that doesn't want him?'BigJohn said:
The Commish
Footballguy
I guess it's degree of badness...yes, it's bad, but not as bad as flat out ignoring
I know when Hoke took over at Michigan, he did his best to keep the existing class in tact. Some of those guys (who are now leaving through attrition) had no spot in Hoke's long term plan, but he kept them and made do. Now, with him bringing his own guys on and them seeing less playing time because of scheme/ability, they are leaving. I don't know what the best answer is...there probably isn't one, but I don't think there is a worse answer than just ignoring kids all together.
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UCLA has fired three coaches in the last ten years or so. The most recent hire, Jim Mora, went from his introductory press conference to a room and immediately picked up the phone with the recruiting coordinator and contacted every single UCLA commit and recruit on UCLA's radar simply to introduce himself and open the lines of communication. He also announced the hiring of a couple stud recruiters and they were off and running. That staff took the position that they would honor all scholarship offers of committed players to Neuheisel. However, they pissed off some recruits because they told them they didn't see them fitting into their plans and getting much PT at UCLA, but that they were welcome to still come to UCLA and compete (it's only a month and half until signing day...where will I go?). But that's what happens when there's a regime change.You don't have to say anything about whether you want them or not. Make a decision as to your staff's policy (we honor committed players' offers or we don't, necessarily) and let them know where they stand at that point or just introduce yourself and work your ### off to watch tape on the guys and then let them know later. Either way, just pick up the phone.
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
I agree with this.'BigJohn said:
Seriously, though, it looks like it was a decision that was made by the Pac-12 with a HUGE amount of input by ESPN. ESPN and the Pac-12 selected the Thursday dates and then plugged in the games they wanted. It sounds like they were trying to avoid showdowns with big SEC matchups on Saturdays to attract more college football fan eyeballs. Because, let's face it, more people will be watching LSU-Alabama on Saturday than Oregon-Stanford, and putting that game up against that LSU-Alabama is a losing proposition at this point. At least this way, you might get a lot of the eyeballs that will also be watching the LSU-Alabama on Saturday by moving it to Thursday.Or maybe the NFL will crush them, too. But, just judging by this board alone, there are a lot of NFL fans that are not college fans and vice versa. So, who knows.'Ramblin Wreck said:
