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*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (1 Viewer)

This is in regards to Michigan going down to IMG Academy for practice during spring break.  Harbaugh invited all the high school coaches to come and watch the practices.  The SEC is unhappy about it, but Tennessee has some bigger issues to deal with.

Bret Bielema

After early meetings & lift tomorrow with our players. Thinking about heading to watch an open practice tomorrow at IMG with the staff.#WPS

2:45 PM - 2 Mar 2016
Mark Dantonio

Want to do lunch? #V4MSU https://twitter.com/BretBielema/status/705132033207455744 …

3:22 PM - 2 Mar 2016
 
Butch Jones
Mind if I join you guys for lunch? @DantonioMark@BretBielema


5:47 PM - 2 Mar 2016
Coach Harbaugh ‏@CoachJim4UM  23m23 minutes ago
Suggestion to my Rocky Top colleague, rather than lunch in Florida you might spend your time and focus attending to your present team.

 
The Commish said:
It's pretty funny that it's against the NCAA rules for them to go down and observe the practices. :lol:
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Here's what I don't get. According to the ESPN article:

 ...this is a quiet period in recruiting, when coaches are not allowed to visit a prospect's school. So no opposing coaches are allowed at IMG Academy, home to many FBS draft prospects and the site of Michigan's weeklong spring practice session.
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How is a week of practices on-campus not considered "visiting" the school?

 
heckmanm said:
Here's what I don't get. According to the ESPN article:

How is a week of practices on-campus not considered "visiting" the school?
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:lmao:   No idea.  If I put on my "NCAA Powers That Be" hat, perhaps "visiting" is going to see and meet with specific students and interact with them?  That's the best I could come up with :shrug:   

 
Some Tenn fans are upset with Herbie for his comments about Michigan (as innocent as they were)

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Just got my tickets for USC / Alabama. 

I prefer to see my teams eviscerated in person. 

I do know Max Brown is a SUBSTANTIAL upgrade at QB as Kessler could not throw the ball for more than 5 yards down field without losing accuracy. He should have objectively gotten the start over Kessler last year but USC was throwing Kessler a bone for what he had to go through.  Wouldn't have been my choice but whatever.  Offense should do OK.

D Line is going to get bowled over. Alabama should just go midshipman on them and run the ball for 400 yards out of the wishbone.

The only way USC wins is being +2 in turnovers, Adore Jackson scores a TD on special teams, Max Brown lives up to his hype, and USC finding a way to control clock substantially better than they have in the last two years.

More likely Alabama wins 31-16. 

:ptts:

 
Long Ball Larry said:
lovie smith to coach Illinois?  Huh.
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Strange on the outside, but it's a coach no one wants at this stage at a program no one wants to go to.

Is there a bigger underperforming program?  7 years of 7 wins or less after the Rose Bowl.  Lovie has nothing but upside anyway.

 
Orange bowl moving from Monday at noon this year to a Friday night. 

Per mcmurphy 

This year’s Orange Bowl - which doesn’t host a semifinal - originally scheduled for noon Jan. 2 moved to Friday night, Dec. 30

 
gump said:
I"m still mostly uninterested in this...seems like a odd thing for the NCAA to ban, but I also don't see a big benefit from it either.
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The social part is why I was following.  It was pretty funny.  I don't know if it would be a significant benefit in the long run, but I do know Michigan got some guys directly from their "tour" last summer.

 
gump said:
I"m still mostly uninterested in this...seems like a odd thing for the NCAA to ban, but I also don't see a big benefit from it either.
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The way this is written, this is a big loss for 1/2 star poor kids.  If smaller school coaches can't go to an Alabama camps to see kids who could never get an offer from Alabama and the kids can't afford to go to other camps, then those are the ones that really lose out.

 
We all knew the NCAA hates kids, but its rare for them to make such a blatant anti-student athlete rule. 

Way to go, NCAA. On the bright side, it helps a bunch of rich adults.

 
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Perhaps a loophole?

Q: SMSB? Over the past ten years, Sound Mind Sound Body has become a very large camp indeed, one featuring dozens of college coaches and four digits worth of athletes. Either the NCAA just bombed that camp hard or maybe there's a loophole. That loophole could be SMSB's charity nature. Coaches have been allowed there because they volunteer their time, IIRC, and the word choice in the ruling is specific:

"Additionally, FBS coaches and noncoaching staff members with responsibilities specific to football may be employed only at their school's camps or clinics."

If SMSB happens as planned then this is a non-ruling easily evaded. Michigan coaches can just go volunteer at the various SMSB-alikes that will proliferate like mushrooms after a rain.

 
LAUNCH said:
The way this is written, this is a big loss for 1/2 star poor kids.  If smaller school coaches can't go to an Alabama camps to see kids who could never get an offer from Alabama and the kids can't afford to go to other camps, then those are the ones that really lose out.
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Maybe by the way it was written, but that doesn't seem realistic.

 
gump said:
These schools were participating?
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They go to bigger schools camps. From that blog article I posted earlier:
 

The new ruling basically says mid-major programs aren't allowed to participate in camps not held on campus. For instance, MAC schools flock to Big Ten camps as say an Ohio State camp generally only has a handful of kids good enough to play for the Buckeyes but several that could play for Ball State, Kent State, Toledo or Western Michigan.

Two MAC coaches told 247Sports they weren't sure how this rule affects them. One said "shocking."

 
whoknew said:
They go to bigger schools camps. From that blog article I posted earlier:
 

The new ruling basically says mid-major programs aren't allowed to participate in camps not held on campus. For instance, MAC schools flock to Big Ten camps as say an Ohio State camp generally only has a handful of kids good enough to play for the Buckeyes but several that could play for Ball State, Kent State, Toledo or Western Michigan.

Two MAC coaches told 247Sports they weren't sure how this rule affects them. One said "shocking."
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Then if they have no other ways to scout these kids, no doubt unfair to them.  First time I've heard that angle.  Seems like they could figure out a way to allow that.

 
Tom Servo said:
If Saban questions its effectiveness, why is he crying about it?
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C'mon...he's the 'most vocal' because he's the only one they asked about it and the only one they quoted. And he didn't even speak out against it...just said he didn't understand the upside.

 
Tom Servo said:
If Saban questions its effectiveness, why is he crying about it?
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Not sure he was crying about it.  They've asked several coaches in the ACC and SEC about it and most of them didn't like it.  I think one of the few that didn't have a problem with it and gave a "wish I'd have thought about that" sort of answer was the McElwain.  The rest seemed pretty off put or gave pretty :pokey:  answers...fun times.

 
Now Harbaugh is giving the commencement speech at the Paramus Catholic High School graduation (home of Gary, former home of Peppers). 

 
Let's be honest the SEC doesn't want satellite camps because there is a ton more work and virtually all down side for them as far as recruiting.  I'm sure most coaches and their families, from any conference, are thrilled beyond belief that these are over.  I'm sure that Harbaugh, in some ways, sees the benefit of him coming out looking like the guy who tried to bring football to the masses and the SEC getting pinned as the corrupt masters of the FIFA like NCAA.

 
Mike Leach Weighs In on Satellite Camps

I hadn't read the particulars of the rule change and I hadn't thought about all the mid-major teams who used the camps.  The NCAA really cut off their nose despite their face on this one.  Guess I shouldn't be surprised.  It's tough to find coaches (outside the obvious ones) who were against these things, but all the conferences (except the B1G) came in with a vote against it.  Guess bag men aren't just for kids these days ;)

 
The Commish said:
Mike Leach Weighs In on Satellite Camps

I hadn't read the particulars of the rule change and I hadn't thought about all the mid-major teams who used the camps.  The NCAA really cut off their nose despite their face on this one.  Guess I shouldn't be surprised.  It's tough to find coaches (outside the obvious ones) who were against these things, but all the conferences (except the B1G) came in with a vote against it.  Guess bag men aren't just for kids these days ;)
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Chris Ash (new Rutgers HC) was quoted yesterday saying that if this rule is in place, it should apply to P5 schools only. Let the G5 school coaches work the P5 camps and expose all of those 2* recruits to a much greater pool of coaches who are actually interested in them. 

 
RUSF18 said:
The Commish said:
Mike Leach Weighs In on Satellite Camps

I hadn't read the particulars of the rule change and I hadn't thought about all the mid-major teams who used the camps.  The NCAA really cut off their nose despite their face on this one.  Guess I shouldn't be surprised.  It's tough to find coaches (outside the obvious ones) who were against these things, but all the conferences (except the B1G) came in with a vote against it.  Guess bag men aren't just for kids these days ;)
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Chris Ash (new Rutgers HC) was quoted yesterday saying that if this rule is in place, it should apply to P5 schools only. Let the G5 school coaches work the P5 camps and expose all of those 2* recruits to a much greater pool of coaches who are actually interested in them. 
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That's way to logical....the NCAA will never go for it unless the public beats them over the head with it.

 
Kirby's Law #SEC  FOI requests now 90 business days for UGA.  Plenty of time to hide the bodies.

http://deadspin.com/kirbys-law-will-make-it-harder-to-report-on-georgia-a-1770500372

Georgia Governor Nathan Deal signed into law yesterday legislation that will give state university athletic departments an unprecedented right to delay responding to open records requests.

The law is certainly welcomed by Kirby Smart, under whom the Bulldogs are ramping up spending (and will now be able to keep its spending secret for much longer). Smart visited the State Capitol to discuss the bill with lawmakers for four hours shortly before they passed it, and the chief of staff of one the bill’s co-sponsors said Smart was the prime mover behind the legislation.


“It’s a similar subject that, from what I understand, came to light through Kirby Smart at UGA,” Krause said. “It had to do with football teams or athletic departments that are recruiting people in state of Georgia. They had a (shorter) window where the documents were not yet public, but other states had 90 days.”



Georgia’s lieutenant governor said of the new law, “I hope it brings us a national championship.”

 
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