**Official** 2015 Washington Redskins Thread YOU LIKE THAT! (1 Viewer)

[Sebowski]

We seriously have some of the dumbest local media memebers in all of sports. This is a snippet of Sheehan defending why Cousins is treated differently than Griffin and deserves to keep playing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/10/21/espn-980-host-blasts-racial-aspect-of-kirk-cousins-coverage-as-disgusting-hate-mongering/

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So Cousins should keep playing because he doesn't say he's the best QB on the team or because he doesn't have marketing slogans? That's what we're resorting to now to defend this guy? "Well at least he doesn't think he's good" is now a defense lol. This is so pathetic.

Where has Cousins backed up anything with his play? Is averaging 1.7 INTs per game backing up your play? What about 3 wins as a starer in your career? Seriously, what do the supporters of him see in him that EVERYONE else is missing?

I have heard more local Redskin radio guys yelling this year than in any other year, by far. I've heard Sheehan yelling repeatedly, I've heard Galdi yelling, I've heard Cooley yelling repeatedly and calling people morons, I've heard Jason Reid yelling. And every one of them was yelling about something connected with their defending Cousins.

The best, the absolute best, was Cooley yesterday after getting tons of online criticism for being such a Cousins fan: "He Is Not My Boyfriend!"

He should just come out and admit it. Cloris Leachman did.

I don't think I've heard so many people defend a player so much and so often. What am I missing on Cousins? He's a poor man's Alex Smith. He's a game manager that isn't accurate and turns the ball over. Yet so many people are convinced we can win with him. Why? Because Mike Shanahan said he could be a top 10 QB? Because he isn't Griffin? What is it that other people see??

It's just that. So much disappointment/frustration/aggravation with RG III that Chad Pennington could be the next man up and he is automatically 10X more liked/defended.

I, myself, refrain from getting down on Cousins just because it is SO refreshing to see this team be so much more competitive than I thought they had any chance at being this year. If I'm not mistaken, I think they actually lead the NFL in time of possession. Can you imagine?

Had to look that up. You are right. We are 30th in yards per play and 28th in points per game though.

 

[MattFancy]

Again, I have no idea if Cousins is the answer here or not, but everyone seems so sure he gives us the "best chance" or what have you. Have we been competitive in games? Sure. Is it all due to Cousins? Maybe, maybe not.

He's towards the top of the league in INTs and INT%. Towards the bottom in YPA and YPC.

Sure our time of possession looks good, but that was when we were controlling the clock with the run game. The run game has fallen off the last 2 weeks and we've lost both games. And ToP is a weird stat. Wasn't it a few years ago where Manning's Colts barely had the ball against the Dolphins? and still managed to win. Controlling the clock means nothing if you can't score points.

Edit: Looking at ToP stats, Skins are #1. Patriots are #24. Pats average 17 more ppg than us. Tells you all you need to know about ToP

 

[Sebowski]

Just saw on twitter that Reed says he's 100% and will play Sunday.

 

[MattFancy]

Just saw on twitter that Reed says he's 100% and will play Sunday.

That should help. Really could use Williams and Steiger back this week.

 

[dhockster]

Since it is never too early to think about the offseason, is there a possibility that Gruden is fired, McCloughan hires someone like Darrell Bevell, and Griffin gets another shot at being the Redskins' QB?

I have no idea when or if his option become guaranteed and under what circumstances. If he can be but during the preseason with no ramifications, there is no reason no to keep him around for training camp. Of course, if he get injured in the preseason, does the injury guarantee still kick in?

Is the Art Briles talk totally dead?

Who knows what's going to happen. If we beat Tampa, we may be back on Code Yellow for a while.

Yeah, it will be Code Yellow until the Patriots run up a fifty spot on the Skins in Foxboro after the bye.

So the Redskins lost to a good Jets team and now they are in Code Red. If they beat Tampa, everyone one will feel good. Maybe they start talking playoffs again. Then they get blown out by the Patriots and we will be talking about who needs to be benched/fired again.

On a side note: I watched a lot of the Giants/Eagles game. Both teams looked pretty bad. The Philly defense looked good. But for the most part, it looked really bad and sloppy.

Philly's defense was great after the first drive, and the special teams were good. Philly's offense would have been just fine if Bradford didn't keep turning it over. They moved the ball pretty much all night. It was an ugly game to watch.

God, I can't believe the Eagles have lost two straight to the Redskins.

 

[fatness]

I don't think I've heard so many people defend a player so much and so often. What am I missing on Cousins? He's a poor man's Alex Smith. He's a game manager that isn't accurate and turns the ball over. Yet so many people are convinced we can win with him. Why? Because Mike Shanahan said he could be a top 10 QB? Because he isn't Griffin? What is it that other people see??

That's exactly why --- because he's not Robert Griffin. And honestly, if Griffin hadn't had such a sensational first year, if he hadn't been left in the Seattle game by Shanahan when he was clearly hurt, --- if those things hadn't happened the level of dislike for Griffin wouldn't be nearly what it is and the support for Cousins wouldn't be nearly what it is.

 

[fatness]

Just saw on twitter that Reed says he's 100% and will play Sunday.

So that means he's getting close to 50%?

 

[fatness]

More details of how clownish the Zorn years were: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13939970/clinton-portis-says-washington-redskins-became-divided-jim-zorn-religion

Portis, during his weekly appearance on ESPN980, said Zorn, who coached the Redskins in 2008-09 before being fired, divided the locker room between "Christians and ballplayers."

"So if you didn't believe in what he believed in, if you weren't Antwaan Randle El, if you weren't the guys who sat and prayed with him and did everything the way they thought your life should be, you kind of got, 'Well, you're not doing right' speeches directed toward you," Portis said.

Former Redskins tight end Chris Cooley, a co-host on the show in which Portis appeared, said on the air that his ex-teammate wasn't wrong. Cooley, however, said Zorn did not do it with intent or by saying, "I want Christians."

"But he sold his pitch," Cooley said. "His sales pitch was: 'Believe in and have faith in my program.' And it was basically a sales pitch to a Christian team. It wasn't, 'We're going to be smart. We're going to adapt. We're going to make sense.'

"Literally any time there was anything that came up on offense that was, 'Hmm, this doesn't make any sense, Jim. Why are we doing this?' [The answer] was, 'This was how Bill Walsh did it.' Much like saying, 'Go to the Bible and read it.' It was the West Coast Bible that he sold over and over and over again."

I do enjoy Portis on radio. His view often doesn't match that of others, and that's pretty refreshing around here.

 

[fatness]

So how many yards rushing will Doug Martin get this week?

 

[dgreen]

How many times in threads did we ask why ARE continued to return punts? It just made absolutely no sense. Nobody had an answer that made any sense to me. Not saying what Portis said has totally convinced me that's the answer, but it may be the best explanation to date.

 

[Sebowski]

So how many yards rushing will Doug Martin get this week?

43. We are going to stuff the run, frustrate Winston, and win the ####### game.

 

[dgreen]

Who is favored? I could see anything from Tampa -2 to Washington -3.

 

[Sebowski]

Who is favored? I could see anything from Tampa -2 to Washington -3.

I'm seeing Skins -3 1/2

 

[Arodin]

We seriously have some of the dumbest local media memebers in all of sports. This is a snippet of Sheehan defending why Cousins is treated differently than Griffin and deserves to keep playing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/10/21/espn-980-host-blasts-racial-aspect-of-kirk-cousins-coverage-as-disgusting-hate-mongering/

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So Cousins should keep playing because he doesn't say he's the best QB on the team or because he doesn't have marketing slogans? That's what we're resorting to now to defend this guy? "Well at least he doesn't think he's good" is now a defense lol. This is so pathetic.

Where has Cousins backed up anything with his play? Is averaging 1.7 INTs per game backing up your play? What about 3 wins as a starer in your career? Seriously, what do the supporters of him see in him that EVERYONE else is missing?

I have heard more local Redskin radio guys yelling this year than in any other year, by far. I've heard Sheehan yelling repeatedly, I've heard Galdi yelling, I've heard Cooley yelling repeatedly and calling people morons, I've heard Jason Reid yelling. And every one of them was yelling about something connected with their defending Cousins.

The best, the absolute best, was Cooley yesterday after getting tons of online criticism for being such a Cousins fan: "He Is Not My Boyfriend!"

He should just come out and admit it. Cloris Leachman did.

I don't think I've heard so many people defend a player so much and so often. What am I missing on Cousins? He's a poor man's Alex Smith. He's a game manager that isn't accurate and turns the ball over. Yet so many people are convinced we can win with him. Why? Because Mike Shanahan said he could be a top 10 QB? Because he isn't Griffin? What is it that other people see??

Poor man's Alex Smith is generous...poor man's Rex Grossman seems more in line with his play on the field...

 

[fatness]

How many times in threads did we ask why ARE continued to return punts? It just made absolutely no sense. Nobody had an answer that made any sense to me. Not saying what Portis said has totally convinced me that's the answer, but it may be the best explanation to date.

It's probably the explanation for a number of things. There was a swinging gate in Deuteronomy after all.

Thall shalt stay medium.

 

[fatness]

So how many yards rushing will Doug Martin get this week?

43. We are going to stuff the run, frustrate Winston, and win the ####### game.

I don't know if you read the link I posted earlier about the problems with the run defense, but they've got a long ways to go to stuff the run. Their edge guys keep getting caught inside, and their d-line isn't keeping o-linemen off the LB's.

I hope you're right, though. I think Martin will have over 90 yards.

 

[fatness]

Trent Williams and Jordan Reed won't know if they're playing until close to game time. They sure could use them. Their passing game has been squashed. They have the lowest yards/attempt in the league.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

It's tough not to get excited about what this offense will/could do with both Desean and Reed healthy. Imagine if we completed just one 40+ yard pass per game, which seems to be realistic with Desean on the field. Imagine how much that loosens up a defense, pulls them back from the LOS...and imagine how much one quick-strike scoring drive per game, at the least, could help this team overall.

Leading the league in TOP and length of scoring drive sounds impressive and along the lines of what we want until you really think about it and realize that it's partially a bad thing--the only time we can score is when we put together this long, massive drive because we don't have a downfield threat or anyone that can score quickly. So it's the only way we score and kinda skews the numbers a bit.

This team needs Reed healthy, but it needs Desean healthy even more.

 

[MattFancy]

It's tough not to get excited about what this offense will/could do with both Desean and Reed healthy. Imagine if we completed just one 40+ yard pass per game, which seems to be realistic with Desean on the field. Imagine how much that loosens up a defense, pulls them back from the LOS...and imagine how much one quick-strike scoring drive per game, at the least, could help this team overall.

Leading the league in TOP and length of scoring drive sounds impressive and along the lines of what we want until you really think about it and realize that it's partially a bad thing--the only time we can score is when we put together this long, massive drive because we don't have a downfield threat or anyone that can score quickly. So it's the only way we score and kinda skews the numbers a bit.

This team needs Reed healthy, but it needs Desean healthy even more.

The thing is, we have someone who can stretch the field, Rashad Ross. The problem is Cousins can't get the ball downfield. It was a page or so back, but there was a link to a b/r article that charted Cousins' throws this season. The vast majority of them are 5yds or shorter. When he does take shots downfield, he hasn't hit many of them. Jackson could help, but I don't know if Kirk can be accurate enough to get the ball to him.

 

[fatness]

The thing is, we have someone who can stretch the field, Rashad Ross. The problem is Cousins can't get the ball downfield. It was a page or so back, but there was a link to a b/r article that charted Cousins' throws this season. The vast majority of them are 5yds or shorter. When he does take shots downfield, he hasn't hit many of them. Jackson could help, but I don't know if Kirk can be accurate enough to get the ball to him.

Here's the chart of his passes: http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/002/245/201/2439650ce5977e600e67dfd5f69d00f5_original.jpg?1445288214

From this article, which is pretty good: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2580572-jay-grudens-commitment-to-kirk-cousins-will-get-him-fired

Like ConnSkins said, it would be great to see some deeper passes each game. Throw 5-6 bombs, complete 2-3, and it'll loosen up the whole defense. It's hard to see Cousins completing deep passes though.

If a Washington receiver is open 30 yards down the field, 3 things can happen:

1. Cousins throws a pass within an 8 yard radius of him.

2. Griffin waits for the receiver to stay open for 10 yards and is sacked.

3. McCoy throws the ball 22 yards.

 

[dhockster]

The thing is, we have someone who can stretch the field, Rashad Ross. The problem is Cousins can't get the ball downfield. It was a page or so back, but there was a link to a b/r article that charted Cousins' throws this season. The vast majority of them are 5yds or shorter. When he does take shots downfield, he hasn't hit many of them. Jackson could help, but I don't know if Kirk can be accurate enough to get the ball to him.

Here's the chart of his passes: http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/002/245/201/2439650ce5977e600e67dfd5f69d00f5_original.jpg?1445288214

From this article, which is pretty good: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2580572-jay-grudens-commitment-to-kirk-cousins-will-get-him-fired

Like ConnSkins said, it would be great to see some deeper passes each game. Throw 5-6 bombs, complete 2-3, and it'll loosen up the whole defense. It's hard to see Cousins completing deep passes though.

If a Washington receiver is open 30 yards down the field, 3 things can happen:

1. Cousins throws a pass within an 8 yard radius of him.

2. Griffin waits for the receiver to stay open for 10 yards and is sacked.

3. McCoy throws the ball 22 yards.

I laughed at 3.

 

[fatness]

Pretty good article on the running game from Mark Bullock. The main problems are bad blocking and bad coaching (not sticking with it, not calling plays that worked) according to him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/10/21/a-closer-look-at-why-the-redskins-run-game-is-struggling/

 

[MattFancy]

Pretty good article on the running game from Mark Bullock. The main problems are bad blocking and bad coaching (not sticking with it, not calling plays that worked) according to him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/10/21/a-closer-look-at-why-the-redskins-run-game-is-struggling/

Gruden has a habit of getting away from the running game unless it's working perfectly. Did it numerous times last season. The injuries to the OL have definitely hurt the running game. But Gruden doesn't help the cause by going away from it. We've lead at the half in 5 of the 6 games so far.

In the Dolphins game, in which we never we down by more than 7 points at any point of the game, we ran the ball 10 times in the 2nd half. We had 25 running plays in the 1st half.

Against the Falcons, another game we were in the whole way and leading going into the 4th quarter, we ran the ball 10 times in the 2nd half, out of 23 total running plays.

Those were 2 games that we were very much in it in the 2nd half and got away from the run. Same old story.

 

[Sebowski]

The thing is, we have someone who can stretch the field, Rashad Ross. The problem is Cousins can't get the ball downfield. It was a page or so back, but there was a link to a b/r article that charted Cousins' throws this season. The vast majority of them are 5yds or shorter. When he does take shots downfield, he hasn't hit many of them. Jackson could help, but I don't know if Kirk can be accurate enough to get the ball to him.

Here's the chart of his passes: http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/002/245/201/2439650ce5977e600e67dfd5f69d00f5_original.jpg?1445288214

From this article, which is pretty good: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2580572-jay-grudens-commitment-to-kirk-cousins-will-get-him-fired

Like ConnSkins said, it would be great to see some deeper passes each game. Throw 5-6 bombs, complete 2-3, and it'll loosen up the whole defense. It's hard to see Cousins completing deep passes though.

If a Washington receiver is open 30 yards down the field, 3 things can happen:

1. Cousins throws a pass within an 8 yard radius of him.

2. Griffin waits for the receiver to stay open for 10 yards and is sacked.

3. McCoy throws the ball 22 yards.

DJax hurt his hamstring trying to turn it up to catch up to an overthrown ball. Which is annoying on a couple levels.

 

[MattFancy]

Jay Gruden’s loyalty to Kirk Cousins is costing Washington wins

 

[thayman]

Jay Gruden’s loyalty to Kirk Cousins is costing Washington wins

Fixed.

 

[MikeApf]

The thing is, we have someone who can stretch the field, Rashad Ross. The problem is Cousins can't get the ball downfield. It was a page or so back, but there was a link to a b/r article that charted Cousins' throws this season. The vast majority of them are 5yds or shorter. When he does take shots downfield, he hasn't hit many of them. Jackson could help, but I don't know if Kirk can be accurate enough to get the ball to him.

Here's the chart of his passes: http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/002/245/201/2439650ce5977e600e67dfd5f69d00f5_original.jpg?1445288214

From this article, which is pretty good: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2580572-jay-grudens-commitment-to-kirk-cousins-will-get-him-fired

Like ConnSkins said, it would be great to see some deeper passes each game. Throw 5-6 bombs, complete 2-3, and it'll loosen up the whole defense. It's hard to see Cousins completing deep passes though.

If a Washington receiver is open 30 yards down the field, 3 things can happen:

1. Cousins throws a pass which is intercepted.

2. Griffin waits for the receiver to stay open for 10 yards and is sacked.

3. McCoy throws the ball 22 yards.

There, I fixed that for you.

 

[MikeApf]

Sunday forecast for Washington, DC

http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/l/USDC0001:1:US

Cloudy with a chance of rain showers. High 62 degrees F.

Wind E at 5 to 10 mph

Chance of rain 60%

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Do you guys see how windy it's going to be? Plus, we have to deal with clouds pre-snap as well. That totally sucks.

 

[MattFancy]

Sunday forecast for Washington, DC

http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/l/USDC0001:1:US

Cloudy with a chance of rain showers. High 62 degrees F.

Wind E at 5 to 10 mph

Chance of rain 60%

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Do you guys see how windy it's going to be? Plus, we have to deal with clouds pre-snap as well. That totally sucks.

There isn't a QB in the league that can overcome all that. Maybe the league will move the game up or back based on the forecast.

 

[Sebowski]

Sunday forecast for Washington, DC

http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/l/USDC0001:1:US

Cloudy with a chance of rain showers. High 62 degrees F.

Wind E at 5 to 10 mph

Chance of rain 60%

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Do you guys see how windy it's going to be? Plus, we have to deal with clouds pre-snap as well. That totally sucks.

Thanks for posting. Literally about to pack for a trip out there and am going to the game. Need to dust off my 1992 Redskins Starter rain jacket and throw it in the suitcase. Thank god my mom always bought me #### that was way too big.

 

[MattFancy]

Ryan Clark: Jay Gruden should have protected RGIII the way he’s protecting Kirk Cousins

Good to see a former teammate of both weigh in.

 

[MikeApf]

Sunday forecast for Washington, DC

http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/l/USDC0001:1:US

Cloudy with a chance of rain showers. High 62 degrees F.

Wind E at 5 to 10 mph

Chance of rain 60%

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Do you guys see how windy it's going to be? Plus, we have to deal with clouds pre-snap as well. That totally sucks.

Thanks for posting. Literally about to pack for a trip out there and am going to the game. Need to dust off my 1992 Redskins Starter rain jacket and throw it in the suitcase. Thank god my mom always bought me #### that was way too big.

Cool. At least you picked a game we have a good shot to win!

 

[MikeApf]

Kirk Cousins on outside criticism: I watch HGTV, not ESPN

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/22/kirk-cousins-on-outside-criticism-i-watch-hgtv-not-espn/

Seriously, the jokes write themselves.

 

[dgreen]

Leading the league in TOP and length of scoring drive sounds impressive and along the lines of what we want until you really think about it and realize that it's partially a bad thing--the only time we can score is when we put together this long, massive drive because we don't have a downfield threat or anyone that can score quickly. So it's the only way we score and kinda skews the numbers a bit.

Cousins' TD passes this season have been from the following distances: 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 7. EXPLOSIVE!

Oh, and we previously discussed his lack of running. Here are his five runs:

1) A QB sneak on 4th and 1 for a 1st down against Atlanta.

2) A 3rd an 1 run up the middle for 1 yard against the Jets. A sneak, too? Or was it a scramble? I don't remember.

3) A 1st and 10 run against Miami for no gain and he fumbled out of bounds. I think this was a scramble.

4) The fumbled snap against Philly where he picked it up and backed his way into the endzone.

5) A kneel down, I think to end the first half against Miami.

 

[dgreen]

Sunday forecast for Washington, DC

http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/l/USDC0001:1:US

Cloudy with a chance of rain showers. High 62 degrees F.

Wind E at 5 to 10 mph

Chance of rain 60%

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Do you guys see how windy it's going to be? Plus, we have to deal with clouds pre-snap as well. That totally sucks.

Thanks for posting. Literally about to pack for a trip out there and am going to the game. Need to dust off my 1992 Redskins Starter rain jacket and throw it in the suitcase. Thank god my mom always bought me #### that was way too big.

Cool. At least you picked a game we have a good shot to win!

It's Homecoming!

Seriously, we keep scheduling "Homecoming" for games like this and pretty sure we keep losing them. "Hey, Tampa, we think you suck so much that we're making you our Homecoming game - you know, that thing that no other professional team does."

 

[fatness]

Jay Gruden’s loyalty to Kirk Cousins is costing Washington wins

"Cousins does not push the ball downfield with any accuracy. Of his 228 pass attempts, 19 have traveled more than 20 yards in the air. He's completed just three of those. "

Ouch.

 

[fatness]

Today's injury report: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CR9HoxUWEAAv0Ex.jpg

Injuries seem to be lingering longer and longer.

 

[fatness]

Drew Magary's column is full of humor, foul language, and making fun of the Redskins. http://deadspin.com/the-skins-are-still-one-long-ongoing-con-job-1737617244?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

He really skewers the "Cousins is the best at running this offense" line of thinking. And he really doesn't like Dan Snyder, or the Snyder-owned media.

Kirk Cousins is starting against Tampa Bay on Sunday and, if he continues being Kirk Cousins, he will likely end up throwing two picks and then finally be benched by head coach and wind analyst Jay Gruden. And when that happens, Gruden’s career in Washington will be all but over. For any head coach, your career is over the second you agree to take Dan Snyder’s money. But even following in the footsteps of comical failures like Steve Spurrier and Jim Zorn and the Shanahii, Gruden stands out as a particularly amusing test dummy because…

1. He was hired specifically to revive Robert Griffin III’s career.
2. He turned on RG3 almost immediately and openly murdered him in a postgame presser after losing to these same Bucs.
3. He all but telegraphed to the front office that he didn’t want Griffin on the team anymore, but the front office tried to make the marriage work for another year anyway, forcing Gruden to start RG3 in the preseason, during which Gruden left RG3 in games too long with a #### O-line and watched him get concussed.
4. He finally got management to agree to stick with his boy Cousins for a full season…
5. Only now we know that Cousins is ####ty and Gruden’s “offense” doesn’t seem to be much of an offense at all.
6. And now Gruden may have no choice but to put a spent Griffin back into the lineup anyway.

 

[fatness]

What does a 1992 Redskins Starter rain jacket look like? We can pick out Sebowski on TV.

 

[MikeApf]

What does a 1992 Redskins Starter rain jacket look like? We can pick out Sebowski on TV.

Maybe he can show up with a big sign that simply says, "Fatness."

Unfortunately, Dan Snyder probably doesn't allow signs in the stadium anymore and besides folks would be wondering why Sebowski was calling out Albert Haynesworth.

 

[fatness]

What does a 1992 Redskins Starter rain jacket look like? We can pick out Sebowski on TV.

Maybe he can show up with a big sign that simply says, "Fatness."

Unfortunately, Dan Snyder probably doesn't allow signs in the stadium anymore and besides folks would be wondering why Sebowski was calling out Albert Haynesworth.

Gruden's pretty touchy about being called fat so they wouldn't allow that sign. How about a sign that says "I'm The Best At Running This Offense"?

Or "It's Windy. Put Me In"

 

[thayman]

Ryan Clark: Jay Gruden should have protected RGIII the way he’s protecting Kirk Cousins

Good to see a former teammate of both weigh in.

Gruden's pressers are weird. He'd be so much better off if he wouldn't volunteer so much info after a loss. Last year it wasn't only his criticism of Griffin, he was so quick to throw any/every player under the bus right after the game and a big reason why they gave up on him last year.

 

[hammerva]

Oh Redskins fans you never disappoint me in your delusions:

https://www.change.org/p/daniel-snyder-reinstate-robert-griffin-iii-and-change-the-redskins-culture-immediately?recruiter=90205183&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink

yes I am sure that all of the problems are because Super Bob isn't the starting QB.

 

[MattFancy]

Ryan Clark: Jay Gruden should have protected RGIII the way he’s protecting Kirk Cousins

Good to see a former teammate of both weigh in.

Gruden's pressers are weird. He'd be so much better off if he wouldn't volunteer so much info after a loss. Last year it wasn't only his criticism of Griffin, he was so quick to throw any/every player under the bus right after the game and a big reason why they gave up on him last year.

Yup I remember he was bashing Hatcher early last season. He just continues to show he isn't HC material. I'll be extremely disappointed if he is back next year

 

[Sebowski]

Oh Redskins fans you never disappoint me in your delusions:

https://www.change.org/p/daniel-snyder-reinstate-robert-griffin-iii-and-change-the-redskins-culture-immediately?recruiter=90205183&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink

yes I am sure that all of the problems are because Super Bob isn't the starting QB.

Did you mean to post that in the comments section of that site, or are you just being an idiot?

 

[thayman]

Ryan Clark: Jay Gruden should have protected RGIII the way he’s protecting Kirk Cousins

Good to see a former teammate of both weigh in.

Gruden's pressers are weird. He'd be so much better off if he wouldn't volunteer so much info after a loss. Last year it wasn't only his criticism of Griffin, he was so quick to throw any/every player under the bus right after the game and a big reason why they gave up on him last year.

Yup I remember he was bashing Hatcher early last season. He just continues to show he isn't HC material. I'll be extremely disappointed if he is back next year

Good thing is it doesn't seem like Gruden will be able to survive this year. Normally that transition frustrates me, but with Scot McCloughan I'm interested to see who he'd pick.

 

[Marvelous]

I think Gruden has grown a lot in what he reveals to the press. Last year, it was ridiculous what he said to the media. Some thought it was honest and refreshing. I personally believe the less said, the better.

 

[Marvelous]

We seriously have some of the dumbest local media memebers in all of sports. This is a snippet of Sheehan defending why Cousins is treated differently than Griffin and deserves to keep playing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/10/21/espn-980-host-blasts-racial-aspect-of-kirk-cousins-coverage-as-disgusting-hate-mongering/

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So Cousins should keep playing because he doesn't say he's the best QB on the team or because he doesn't have marketing slogans? That's what we're resorting to now to defend this guy? "Well at least he doesn't think he's good" is now a defense lol. This is so pathetic.

Where has Cousins backed up anything with his play? Is averaging 1.7 INTs per game backing up your play? What about 3 wins as a starer in your career? Seriously, what do the supporters of him see in him that EVERYONE else is missing?

I have heard more local Redskin radio guys yelling this year than in any other year, by far. I've heard Sheehan yelling repeatedly, I've heard Galdi yelling, I've heard Cooley yelling repeatedly and calling people morons, I've heard Jason Reid yelling. And every one of them was yelling about something connected with their defending Cousins.

The best, the absolute best, was Cooley yesterday after getting tons of online criticism for being such a Cousins fan: "He Is Not My Boyfriend!"

He should just come out and admit it. Cloris Leachman did.

I don't think I've heard so many people defend a player so much and so often. What am I missing on Cousins? He's a poor man's Alex Smith. He's a game manager that isn't accurate and turns the ball over. Yet so many people are convinced we can win with him. Why? Because Mike Shanahan said he could be a top 10 QB? Because he isn't Griffin? What is it that other people see??

Poor man's Alex Smith is generous...poor man's Rex Grossman seems more in line with his play on the field...

I am now remembering the good old days when Rex Grossman was QB. Much better than what we are getting now.

 

[thayman]

I think Gruden has grown a lot in what he reveals to the press. Last year, it was ridiculous what he said to the media. Some thought it was honest and refreshing. I personally believe the less said, the better.

I don't mind talking, he was so quick to just pass the buck last year. This year he seems like he's taking extra time to defend the QB he picked because it reflects directly on him, comes across as very disingenuous.

 

[fatness]

I am now remembering the good old days when Rex Grossman was QB. Much better than what we are getting now.

Today's discussion question: Is Kirk Cousins more like Rex Grossman or John Beck?