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**Official** 2015 Washington Redskins Thread YOU LIKE THAT! (1 Viewer)

Keenan Robinson out. Compton gets the start.

I actually have a pretty bad feeling about this game. I think our offense is worse than the Saints defense. Key will be our defense. I don't think it will be the shootout everyone is expecting. I'll go with the super common 18-17 score.
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Welcome to Bizarro World.

I'm actually following the Cowboy and Eagle games right now and checking the effect on division standings. Can't remember the last time I did that.

 
Saints fan from DC here.. it was absolutely comical listening to 106.7 thinking they were going to lose. Our defense is pathetic, not sure why that wasn't obvious.

 
So who is a better OC? This McVay guy or Shanahan?
Hard to compare, since Shanahan has more of a track record.

For now, I'm going to say that Shanahan has shown me more:

1. Offensive success in Houston, Washington (partially), and Atlanta

2. In Washington, he showed he was not a "system guy" by tailoring an offense to the skillset of his QB (Griffin, not Grossman lol). I think that takes something, and I will give him props for that.

3. McVay may be held in this esteem in time but just don't think he has the track record to be compared yet.
New Orleans D blows but I still question if Shanahan was a major problem. He's in ATL and their offense now blows. Cousins is playing better with lesser skill players around him.

 
That was fun, wow. Would be even more fun to shock the Panthers next week. They're undefeated, but have looked vulnerable multiple weeks.

 
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?

Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.

 
GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?

Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
Redskins have faced weak defenses before and not put up 40 offensive points (7 points on defense). So, obviously the Redskins are not going to score 47 points every week -- and likely not again this season. That said, you have to take advantage of bad defenses before you can score against good ones, so give them props for executing and finishing off drives. It's significant progress over last year.

But nice try trying to minimize their accomplishments.

 
GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?

Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
The game wasn't on TV here so I only have the radio broadcast to go by. It seemed to me that the NO defense stunk so bad that everything the Redskins did on offense worked. I don't think the Skins could have committed enough penalties and turnovers to lose this game.

The reason I say the NO defense was horrible was because I heard "Another crushing block by Josh LeRibeus". Josh LeRibeus is just not good, and if he's wiping out defenders with blocks then that defense isn't an NFL-level defense. Nobody on NO seemed able to tackle Matt Jones, who's quite adept at 2-yard runs and getting tackled by the first guy. Crowder sounded like he was wide open all day, and the guy's a 4th round rookie pick with a lot to learn. The Skins offense is improving, but to answer your question I'd say it was horrible NO defense more than anything.

I also don't recall hearing many Redskin offensive mistakes besides Trent Williams's usual false start.

 
GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?

Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
The game wasn't on TV here so I only have the radio broadcast to go by. It seemed to me that the NO defense stunk so bad that everything the Redskins did on offense worked. I don't think the Skins could have committed enough penalties and turnovers to lose this game.

The reason I say the NO defense was horrible was because I heard "Another crushing block by Josh LeRibeus". Josh LeRibeus is just not good, and if he's wiping out defenders with blocks then that defense isn't an NFL-level defense. Nobody on NO seemed able to tackle Matt Jones, who's quite adept at 2-yard runs and getting tackled by the first guy. Crowder sounded like he was wide open all day, and the guy's a 4th round rookie pick with a lot to learn. The Skins offense is improving, but to answer your question I'd say it was horrible NO defense more than anything.

I also don't recall hearing many Redskin offensive mistakes besides Trent Williams's usual false start.
Saw they were on pace for the 2nd most yards allowed ever......2nd to their own 2012 defense.

Crowder is legit.

Good to see the Cowgirls gone, we can agree on that!

 
First of all, I acknowledge that the New Orleans defense was simply awful...and so you have to take the 40+ points with a great of salt...BUT, that said, really nice win for the Redskins. And I don't say really nice win because of the score, but rather from some of the encouraging things I saw:

1. Hustle and good execution: they talked about this on the broadcast, but one thing that really stood out to me was the terrific downfield blocking from lineman, wide receivers and others. This hustle and execution routinely turned small plays into big plays. Go back and watch Jone's 78 yard TD reception...good moves from MJ but GREAT downfield blocking.

2. Solid decision making from Cousins. 4 times this year Cousins has thrown 0 interceptions. 4 times the Redskins have won. He possibly should have had one today on that deflection, but was saved due to a NO penalty (thought the refs were fairly kind to the Skins today). Other than that, it was encouraging to see him throw the ball away in the Redzone to get the field goal instead of throwing the usual INT.

Another fact I read today. Over the last three games, Cousins has thrown 8 TDs vs. 1 interception. Is this a trend or is this a fluke, since two of the defenses were Tampa and New Orleans?

3. Improved third quarter. OK, my play of the game, maybe play of the entire season, was the fourth down stop on NO's first drive of the 3rd quarter. Typical set up: Redskins up first half. Second half starts, NO drives the field, looks like they are going to score. That 4th down stuff when NO had inches to go propelled the team in the 3rd quarter and took the life out of NO. I believe it broke NOs spirit and sealed the game. I believe that's the play of the game and maybe of the season.

4. Putting your foot on the throat. How many times have we seen the Redskins get a lead and then just wilt. Today they stomped on New Orleans and kept their focus four quarters.

I know we beat a team with a weak defense but what you have to understand is that we've played weak teams before and either lost or squeaked out a win. What I saw today was a team that was focusing and executing correctly the whole game.

I still think we're likely a 6 win team but good win this week and something to build on for sure.

 
What I saw today was a team that was focusing and executing correctly the whole game.
That's really all I want from this team this year -- play football correctly. Players will improve over time. Wins will take care of themselves. But they have to play correctly first.

 
What I saw today was a team that was focusing and executing correctly the whole game.
That's really all I want from this team this year -- play football correctly. Players will improve over time. Wins will take care of themselves. But they have to play correctly first.
Exactly. And next week, versus a team that they will almost certainly lose to (Carolina) is another big test. Try to keep your poise and play correctly throughout the game. In short, don't just look like a bunch of clown-holes.

 
First of all, I acknowledge that the New Orleans defense was simply awful...and so you have to take the 40+ points with a great of salt...BUT, that said, really nice win for the Redskins. And I don't say really nice win because of the score, but rather from some of the encouraging things I saw:

1. Hustle and good execution: they talked about this on the broadcast, but one thing that really stood out to me was the terrific downfield blocking from lineman, wide receivers and others. This hustle and execution routinely turned small plays into big plays. Go back and watch Jone's 78 yard TD reception...good moves from MJ but GREAT downfield blocking.

2. Solid decision making from Cousins. 4 times this year Cousins has thrown 0 interceptions. 4 times the Redskins have won. He possibly should have had one today on that deflection, but was saved due to a NO penalty (thought the refs were fairly kind to the Skins today). Other than that, it was encouraging to see him throw the ball away in the Redzone to get the field goal instead of throwing the usual INT.

Another fact I read today. Over the last three games, Cousins has thrown 8 TDs vs. 1 interception. Is this a trend or is this a fluke, since two of the defenses were Tampa and New Orleans?

3. Improved third quarter. OK, my play of the game, maybe play of the entire season, was the fourth down stop on NO's first drive of the 3rd quarter. Typical set up: Redskins up first half. Second half starts, NO drives the field, looks like they are going to score. That 4th down stuff when NO had inches to go propelled the team in the 3rd quarter and took the life out of NO. I believe it broke NOs spirit and sealed the game. I believe that's the play of the game and maybe of the season.

4. Putting your foot on the throat. How many times have we seen the Redskins get a lead and then just wilt. Today they stomped on New Orleans and kept their focus four quarters.

I know we beat a team with a weak defense but what you have to understand is that we've played weak teams before and either lost or squeaked out a win. What I saw today was a team that was focusing and executing correctly the whole game.

I still think we're likely a 6 win team but good win this week and something to build on for sure.
5. I almost forgot to mention...it was nice to see Gruden stick with the running game, even BEFORE we had a sizeable lead. it was good to see Morris gets some carries and do something with them.

 
Sticking with the run game was good, I agree. But the Saints yielding yardage so easily on runs had a lot to do with it, I think. I'd love to see Gruden stick with the running game when it isn't working well initially and they're in a tight game.

Of course, after today's 47-14 pasting the Skins may just be blowing away opponents week after week and there won't be any more tight games.

 
Sticking with the run game was good, I agree. But the Saints yielding yardage so easily on runs had a lot to do with it, I think. I'd love to see Gruden stick with the running game when it isn't working well initially and they're in a tight game.

Of course, after today's 47-14 pasting the Skins may just be blowing away opponents week after week and there won't be any more tight games.
Gruden doesn't really get the fact that you should stick with the run even when you are behind...I agree they need to do that. I mean, one of the reasons Cousins throws so many interceptions in some of these games is that as soon as we get down one score, Gruden has him throwing every down.

 
Nice to finally be on the giving end of a blowout. Seems like it's been awhile since that happened. Yes, New Orleans defense is awful, but still, putting up 40 points on offense is a big deal.

Kirk with another nice game. Good to see some improvements from him as the season has gone on. He seems to have bounced back nicely from that awful games against the Jets.

Not sure what happened, but the defense looked good too. Seemed like it was going to be a long day after the 1st quarter, but the defense stepped up and shut down Brees the rest of the game.

Big stretch the next 3 weeks: @Carolina, New York, Dallas. If we can somehow go 2-1 and get to 6-6, it could be an interesting final 4 games.

 
Good to see the Cowgirls gone, we can agree on that!
Yep. And welcome to 4-5, Philadelphia Eagles. :)
Thank you for that. It was fun watching them snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

And welcome to the race for the NFC East Title, Washington Redskins. Or more aptly known as the race for mediocrity.

I will say I followed someone's lead in this thread and started Cousins and Reed in draft kings. That worked out very nicely.

 
Good to see the Cowgirls gone, we can agree on that!
Yep. And welcome to 4-5, Philadelphia Eagles. :)
Thank you for that. It was fun watching them snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

And welcome to the race for the NFC East Title, Washington Redskins. Or more aptly known as the race for mediocrity.

I will say I followed someone's lead in this thread and started Cousins and Reed in draft kings. That worked out very nicely.
At this point, I would say that it's safe to select any offensive players facing the New Orleans Saints defense...

 
Good to see the Cowgirls gone, we can agree on that!
Yep. And welcome to 4-5, Philadelphia Eagles. :)
Thank you for that. It was fun watching them snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

And welcome to the race for the NFC East Title, Washington Redskins. Or more aptly known as the race for mediocrity.

I will say I followed someone's lead in this thread and started Cousins and Reed in draft kings. That worked out very nicely.
At this point, I would say that it's safe to select any offensive players facing the New Orleans Saints defense...
Good call.

As someone else said above, how does Rob Ryan keep his job?

 
Good to see the Cowgirls gone, we can agree on that!
Yep. And welcome to 4-5, Philadelphia Eagles. :)
Thank you for that. It was fun watching them snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

And welcome to the race for the NFC East Title, Washington Redskins. Or more aptly known as the race for mediocrity.

I will say I followed someone's lead in this thread and started Cousins and Reed in draft kings. That worked out very nicely.
At this point, I would say that it's safe to select any offensive players facing the New Orleans Saints defense...
Good call.

As someone else said above, how does Rob Ryan keep his job?
I guess he doesn't, is the answer.

 
Remember the very first action of the game yesterday? The kickoff? Ross run sideways and backwards and sideways and backwards some more. All of us at the Redskins bar just looked at each other like "####. Here we go again". Man, that seems like such a long time ago :)

 
Remember the very first action of the game yesterday? The kickoff? Ross run sideways and backwards and sideways and backwards some more. All of us at the Redskins bar just looked at each other like "####. Here we go again". Man, that seems like such a long time ago :)
And then you have the fact that he was lined up maybe 5 yards in the endzone for a kickoff from...KAI FORBATH! Pretty sure our coaches should have known that the kickoff wasn't going that far. Didn't it hit the ground at like the 4 yard line and Ross had to field it on a bounce?

 
Remember the very first action of the game yesterday? The kickoff? Ross run sideways and backwards and sideways and backwards some more. All of us at the Redskins bar just looked at each other like "####. Here we go again". Man, that seems like such a long time ago :)
When I saw that, I was thinking, "this is really going to suck." Fortunately, we have the unflappable Kirk Cousins behind center. LOL

 
Remember the very first action of the game yesterday? The kickoff? Ross run sideways and backwards and sideways and backwards some more. All of us at the Redskins bar just looked at each other like "####. Here we go again". Man, that seems like such a long time ago :)
And then you have the fact that he was lined up maybe 5 yards in the endzone for a kickoff from...KAI FORBATH! Pretty sure our coaches should have known that the kickoff wasn't going that far. Didn't it hit the ground at like the 4 yard line and Ross had to field it on a bounce?
Related note: I think signing Hopkins may be one of the most significant additions this year.

Last year, we would routinely kick it to the 10, with teams starting on the 30...it makes a huge difference. Hopkins is fairly accurate as well.

At the same time, there are a lot of former Skins kickers out there: Gano, Forbath, Suisam, etc. They all get recycled.

 
Possibly my favorite thing about the team improvements right now is that they are playing well at home. As a stupid season ticket holder, that's important to me. So many years of attending games where they play like complete crap at home. This year, they've played well in Raljon and it makes it so much more fun to go there. Win @ Carolina and the next two weeks hosting the Giants and Cowboys could be awesome.

 
GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
The game wasn't on TV here so I only have the radio broadcast to go by. It seemed to me that the NO defense stunk so bad that everything the Redskins did on offense worked. I don't think the Skins could have committed enough penalties and turnovers to lose this game.

The reason I say the NO defense was horrible was because I heard "Another crushing block by Josh LeRibeus". Josh LeRibeus is just not good, and if he's wiping out defenders with blocks then that defense isn't an NFL-level defense. Nobody on NO seemed able to tackle Matt Jones, who's quite adept at 2-yard runs and getting tackled by the first guy. Crowder sounded like he was wide open all day, and the guy's a 4th round rookie pick with a lot to learn. The Skins offense is improving, but to answer your question I'd say it was horrible NO defense more than anything.

I also don't recall hearing many Redskin offensive mistakes besides Trent Williams's usual false start.
Saw they were on pace for the 2nd most yards allowed ever......2nd to their own 2012 defense.Crowder is legit.

Good to see the Cowgirls gone, we can agree on that!
Relax mouth breather, your GF ain't singing just yet.

 
GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
The game wasn't on TV here so I only have the radio broadcast to go by. It seemed to me that the NO defense stunk so bad that everything the Redskins did on offense worked. I don't think the Skins could have committed enough penalties and turnovers to lose this game.

The reason I say the NO defense was horrible was because I heard "Another crushing block by Josh LeRibeus". Josh LeRibeus is just not good, and if he's wiping out defenders with blocks then that defense isn't an NFL-level defense. Nobody on NO seemed able to tackle Matt Jones, who's quite adept at 2-yard runs and getting tackled by the first guy. Crowder sounded like he was wide open all day, and the guy's a 4th round rookie pick with a lot to learn. The Skins offense is improving, but to answer your question I'd say it was horrible NO defense more than anything.

I also don't recall hearing many Redskin offensive mistakes besides Trent Williams's usual false start.
Saw they were on pace for the 2nd most yards allowed ever......2nd to their own 2012 defense.Crowder is legit.

Good to see the Cowgirls gone, we can agree on that!
Relax mouth breather, your GF ain't singing just yet.
:tfp:

 
GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?

Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
Redskins have faced weak defenses before and not put up 40 offensive points (7 points on defense). So, obviously the Redskins are not going to score 47 points every week -- and likely not again this season. That said, you have to take advantage of bad defenses before you can score against good ones, so give them props for executing and finishing off drives. It's significant progress over last year.

But nice try trying to minimize their accomplishments.
I didn't see the game(score shocked me), Fatness usually gives a fair assessment. Don't get too excited though, NYG hung 52 on them and some how we scored 39.

 
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GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?

Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
Redskins have faced weak defenses before and not put up 40 offensive points (7 points on defense). So, obviously the Redskins are not going to score 47 points every week -- and likely not again this season. That said, you have to take advantage of bad defenses before you can score against good ones, so give them props for executing and finishing off drives. It's significant progress over last year.

But nice try trying to minimize their accomplishments.
I didn't see the game(score shocked me), Fatness usually gives a fair assessment. Don't get too excited though, NYG hung 52 on them and some how we scored 39.
I said just above here that the Redskins will be lucky to be a six win team here, so I don't think anyone is going to label me one of these unrealistic fans.

That said, again, if you compare this Redskins team with the Redskins team last year, there is marked improvement. Last year we don't take advantage of a weak defense.

You are reading too much in to my statements. I am just saying the team is making progress.

It's not like the Eagles where you all started out thinking you would be in the Super Bowl and now find yourselves at 4-5. Everyone had us pegged as a 4 win team, bottom dwellers for life, with a turnover machine at QB. So basically, the performance is encouraging for us, because we weren't supposed to do anything like you all.

 

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