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**Official** 2015 Washington Redskins Thread YOU LIKE THAT! (3 Viewers)

GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
Redskins have faced weak defenses before and not put up 40 offensive points (7 points on defense). So, obviously the Redskins are not going to score 47 points every week -- and likely not again this season. That said, you have to take advantage of bad defenses before you can score against good ones, so give them props for executing and finishing off drives. It's significant progress over last year.But nice try trying to minimize their accomplishments.
I didn't see the game(score shocked me), Fatness usually gives a fair assessment. Don't get too excited though, NYG hung 52 on them and some how we scored 39.
I said just above here that the Redskins will be lucky to be a six win team here, so I don't think anyone is going to label me one of these unrealistic fans. That said, again, if you compare this Redskins team with the Redskins team last year, there is marked improvement. Last year we don't take advantage of a weak defense.

You are reading too much in to my statements. I am just saying the team is making progress.

It's not like the Eagles where you all started out thinking you would be in the Super Bowl and now find yourselves at 4-5. Everyone had us pegged as a 4 win team, bottom dwellers for life, with a turnover machine at QB. So basically, the performance is encouraging for us, because we weren't supposed to do anything like you all.
If you told either one of us we would be 2 games ahead of the Cowgirls we would take it in a second.....just would think it would be 4-5. We suck, but we are all 3 within a half game so will be interesting. Butt fumble the sequel.

 
GoBirds said:
fatness said:
Crushing last-second loss for the Giants. They really played well.

I'm not too torn up about it though.
Fatness you guys crushed them, curious how much would you say was Skins O and how much NO D?Will be an interesting stumble to the finish line in the East.
Redskins have faced weak defenses before and not put up 40 offensive points (7 points on defense). So, obviously the Redskins are not going to score 47 points every week -- and likely not again this season. That said, you have to take advantage of bad defenses before you can score against good ones, so give them props for executing and finishing off drives. It's significant progress over last year.But nice try trying to minimize their accomplishments.
I didn't see the game(score shocked me), Fatness usually gives a fair assessment. Don't get too excited though, NYG hung 52 on them and some how we scored 39.
I said just above here that the Redskins will be lucky to be a six win team here, so I don't think anyone is going to label me one of these unrealistic fans. That said, again, if you compare this Redskins team with the Redskins team last year, there is marked improvement. Last year we don't take advantage of a weak defense.

You are reading too much in to my statements. I am just saying the team is making progress.

It's not like the Eagles where you all started out thinking you would be in the Super Bowl and now find yourselves at 4-5. Everyone had us pegged as a 4 win team, bottom dwellers for life, with a turnover machine at QB. So basically, the performance is encouraging for us, because we weren't supposed to do anything like you all.
If you told either one of us we would be 2 games ahead of the Cowgirls we would take it in a second.....just would think it would be 4-5. We suck, but we are all 3 within a half game so will be interesting. Butt fumble the sequel.
I think, realistically, the Eagles and Giants will probably be fighting it out for the title. The Redskins are improving but they are too inconsistent week to week and at this point they will be totally outclassed by a good team. I actually think the Giants are legitimately good this year; I would give them the edge probably. But, the Eagles actually have potential because I think their defense is a lot better than expected, and if they can just get their offense going, they'd be pretty good.

As for the Redskins, all I want is for the team to improve and look like they are actually a professional football team. Other than 2012, we haven't had that in DC for a long time. So if you see me being optimistic, it's probably because we have been so low, so long, it doesn't take much to show improvement...

 
I think the Giants are the class of the division this year also. They completely handled the Skins, and almost beat the Patriots who also completely handled the Skins. It looks like the Giants' pass rush has finally come around.

I just want 7 more competent games by the Skins this year, and it'll be the first real football season they've had in 3 years.

 
I think the Giants are the class of the division this year also. They completely handled the Skins, and almost beat the Patriots who also completely handled the Skins. It looks like the Giants' pass rush has finally come around.

I just want 7 more competent games by the Skins this year, and it'll be the first real football season they've had in 3 years.
If the Giants could manage the clock at the end of the game, they are 7-3 right now (Cowboys, Patriots). The disappointing thing for Eagles fans is we absolutely crushed the Giants, so we know we have talent, but we play mediocre too much of the time.

 
I originally thought the Redskins would be 6-10 this year and it still looks like a good prediction. Note that if they do slightly better, they could be contending for the division at 7-9.

Realistically, I have thought for a while that the Giants are the best in the division and they will win it. Coughlin has a pretty good history of his teams starting slow and getting better as the season progresses. I think they will be one of the better teams by the end of the year.

 
I originally thought the Redskins would be 6-10 this year and it still looks like a good prediction. Note that if they do slightly better, they could be contending for the division at 7-9.

Realistically, I have thought for a while that the Giants are the best in the division and they will win it. Coughlin has a pretty good history of his teams starting slow and getting better as the season progresses. I think they will be one of the better teams by the end of the year.
This is what im thinking as well.

 
And the Giants have this nasty habit of beating the Redskins on both lines of scrimmage. Every damn game. :wall:
The Giants game after Carolina is going to be the biggest game of the season. I don't consider Carolina a must win and in fact expect to lose that one. Giants game will be an enormous challenge as well but we're at home so if we're to make a stand for our season, it's going to be there.

 
And the Giants have this nasty habit of beating the Redskins on both lines of scrimmage. Every damn game. :wall:
The Giants game after Carolina is going to be the biggest game of the season. I don't consider Carolina a must win and in fact expect to lose that one. Giants game will be an enormous challenge as well but we're at home so if we're to make a stand for our season, it's going to be there.
I'm willing to accept free tickets to that one in order to show up in my Solsun sweatshirt.

 
And the Giants have this nasty habit of beating the Redskins on both lines of scrimmage. Every damn game. :wall:
The Giants game after Carolina is going to be the biggest game of the season. I don't consider Carolina a must win and in fact expect to lose that one. Giants game will be an enormous challenge as well but we're at home so if we're to make a stand for our season, it's going to be there.
Without a doubt. The next 3 games are huge for the Skins.

I think we all expect to lose to Carolina, but it would be nice to see a good game and not default back to what happened against the Jets.

The 2 division games are HUGE. At worst, we'll be 4-6 going against the 5-5 Giants. A win and we're 2-1 in the division and sitting at the top. A loss and we're 4-7 going against the suddenly healthy Cowboys.

I think if we're going to have any realistic shot at the playoffs, we have to go 2-1 over the next 3.

We'll really see what Cousins is made of when the pressure is on and it certainly will be these next 3 weeks.

 
There was an article on NFL.com about who would win the division. Was a bit surprised to see this choice:

Washington Redskins: Schedule is favorable
If we assume the division will be won with a 9-7 record (and that may be optimistic), here is how Washington will have to do it: They have the toughest test out of the box this week, having to travel to Carolina. Let's assume they don't win there. They then follow up with very winnable games at home vs. the Giants and Cowboys, then go to Chicago. They have a tough game at home against Buffalo, followed by road games in Philly and Dallas for the division. As long as quarterback Kirk Cousins does not turn the ball over, they win. They're running better and are seventh in the NFL in third-down conversions. Except for against Carolina and Buffalo, this formula may get it done.
 
There was an article on NFL.com about who would win the division. Was a bit surprised to see this choice:

Washington Redskins: Schedule is favorableIf we assume the division will be won with a 9-7 record (and that may be optimistic), here is how Washington will have to do it: They have the toughest test out of the box this week, having to travel to Carolina. Let's assume they don't win there. They then follow up with very winnable games at home vs. the Giants and Cowboys, then go to Chicago. They have a tough game at home against Buffalo, followed by road games in Philly and Dallas for the division. As long as quarterback Kirk Cousins does not turn the ball over, they win. They're running better and are seventh in the NFL in third-down conversions. Except for against Carolina and Buffalo, this formula may get it done.
That schedule actually looks tight to me. Lots of divisional games. I don't like how Car matches up with this Wash team. Running on them will be a struggle IMO. They have LBs/edge guys to contain Cam. Cousins protecting the ball is key to the game. DJax could toast us I'm afraid.

 
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There was an article on NFL.com about who would win the division. Was a bit surprised to see this choice:

Washington Redskins: Schedule is favorable
If we assume the division will be won with a 9-7 record (and that may be optimistic), here is how Washington will have to do it: They have the toughest test out of the box this week, having to travel to Carolina. Let's assume they don't win there. They then follow up with very winnable games at home vs. the Giants and Cowboys, then go to Chicago. They have a tough game at home against Buffalo, followed by road games in Philly and Dallas for the division. As long as quarterback Kirk Cousins does not turn the ball over, they win. They're running better and are seventh in the NFL in third-down conversions. Except for against Carolina and Buffalo, this formula may get it done.
I think Brian Billick is pretty wrong on several counts. Neither the Giants or Cowboys games at home are "very winnable". The Giants usually overpower the Skins and have done it once already this year, and damn near beat the Patriots who put the Redskins out of the game in the 1st quarter. Romo will be back and beating his team is seldom easy. The Bears are scoring and winning lately; it's like nobody has noticed. Buffalo has a tough defense and (given what we've seen from the rush defense) could run all day on the Skins. Then come away games against the Cowboys and Eagles, and neither of those figure to be easy.

I do not see an easy game left on the schedule. No decimated defenses or helpless offenses.

edited to add: Right now the Panthers are a significantly better team than the Redskins. It would take an awful lot of things going just right to beat them, and I don't see that happening. I see a 7-10 point loss.

 
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There was an article on NFL.com about who would win the division. Was a bit surprised to see this choice:

Washington Redskins: Schedule is favorable

If we assume the division will be won with a 9-7 record (and that may be optimistic), here is how Washington will have to do it: They have the toughest test out of the box this week, having to travel to Carolina. Let's assume they don't win there. They then follow up with very winnable games at home vs. the Giants and Cowboys, then go to Chicago. They have a tough game at home against Buffalo, followed by road games in Philly and Dallas for the division. As long as quarterback Kirk Cousins does not turn the ball over, they win. They're running better and are seventh in the NFL in third-down conversions. Except for against Carolina and Buffalo, this formula may get it done.
I think Brian Billick is pretty wrong on several counts. Neither the Giants or Cowboys games at home are "very winnable". The Giants usually overpower the Skins and have done it once already this year, and damn near beat the Patriots who put the Redskins out of the game in the 1st quarter. Romo will be back and beating his team is seldom easy. The Bears are scoring and winning lately; it's like nobody has noticed. Buffalo has a tough defense and (given what we've seen from the rush defense) could run all day on the Skins. Then come away games against the Cowboys and Eagles, and neither of those figure to be easy.

I do not see an easy game left on the schedule. No decimated defenses or helpless offenses.

edited to add: Right now the Panthers are a significantly better team than the Redskins. It would take an awful lot of things going just right to beat them, and I don't see that happening. I see a 7-10 point loss.
The Panthers are due for a loss, I wouldn't be surprised if you get them.

 
I didn't even notice that Hall played safety Sunday, but just read that's what he did. It's sounding like that may be a permanent switch for him, given their struggles at that position and that CB is somewhat of a strength when healthy (Culliver, Breeland, Blackmon, and Jarrett).

 
I didn't even notice that Hall played safety Sunday, but just read that's what he did. It's sounding like that may be a permanent switch for him, given their struggles at that position and that CB is somewhat of a strength when healthy (Culliver, Breeland, Blackmon, and Jarrett).
I hope him playing safety isn't a permanent move. It calls for more and harder hits and I think it'll shorten his career (which is already getting near the end). Having 5 decent CB's is not a liability in the NFL -- 2 injuries and the 5th guy is on the field for 60% of the plays. I'm hoping Hall playing S is more due to lack of good S personnel.

edit: LaRon Landry has finished his suspension and is available. I'd rather see Hall at S than Landry.

 
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The Panthers are due for a loss, I wouldn't be surprised if you get them.
They're about as due for a loss as Cousins is for a 3-INT game. Either one could happen but I don't think either is likely.

I don't ever want to see Bad Kirk again.

 
There was an article on NFL.com about who would win the division. Was a bit surprised to see this choice:

Washington Redskins: Schedule is favorable
If we assume the division will be won with a 9-7 record (and that may be optimistic), here is how Washington will have to do it: They have the toughest test out of the box this week, having to travel to Carolina. Let's assume they don't win there. They then follow up with very winnable games at home vs. the Giants and Cowboys, then go to Chicago. They have a tough game at home against Buffalo, followed by road games in Philly and Dallas for the division. As long as quarterback Kirk Cousins does not turn the ball over, they win. They're running better and are seventh in the NFL in third-down conversions. Except for against Carolina and Buffalo, this formula may get it done.
Brian Billick is smoking crack. While it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that the Redskins make a surprise push late in the season, I don't thin the schedule is favorable at all:

Carolina - undefeated

Giants -- best team in NFC East + we play them after their bye, in which they are 4-1 all time

Dallas -- you can't get more unfavorable honestly...everyone else gets to play them with Weeden and Cassel and we get them TWICE with Romo. Don't forget, before Romo and Dez went down this team was considered favorites to go to playoffs and their defense is still stout.

Philly -- always tough

Buffalo - you saw how they beat the Jets...they are a quality team

Chicago -- surging

I don't see one cupcake on that schedule and in fact see many games that will be very difficult to win. I don't think it's impossible to get to 9-7 but these are some really rose colored glasses where Billick is assuming we'll go 5-2 the rest of the way! That's losing to Carolina and then just dropping ONE more game!

 
The Panthers are due for a loss, I wouldn't be surprised if you get them.
They're about as due for a loss as Cousins is for a 3-INT game. Either one could happen but I don't think either is likely.

I don't ever want to see Bad Kirk again.
Right. "Panthers are due" is like saying "New England is due"...there is really nothing to hold onto there. Re: "Bad Kirk" ... this week everyone is talking contract extension. If Bad Kirk rears his head, the same crowd will be calling for Colt McCoy and the firing of Jay Gruden. So it goes.

 
I didn't even notice that Hall played safety Sunday, but just read that's what he did. It's sounding like that may be a permanent switch for him, given their struggles at that position and that CB is somewhat of a strength when healthy (Culliver, Breeland, Blackmon, and Jarrett).
I hope him playing safety isn't a permanent move. It calls for more and harder hits and I think it'll shorten his career (which is already getting near the end). Having 5 decent CB's is not a liability in the NFL -- 2 injuries and the 5th guy is on the field for 60% of the plays. I'm hoping Hall playing S is more due to lack of good S personnel.

edit: LaRon Landry has finished his suspension and is available. I'd rather see Hall at S than Landry.
I think some guys move to safety late in their careers because they lose their speed to be able to play corner, but still have the secondary skills so they move them to safety. Therefore, I think we may see Hall move to safety in coming years. IT's a good point though about Hall not being a big hitter...so maybe this traditional logic doesn't apply to him as much...

 
I didn't even notice that Hall played safety Sunday, but just read that's what he did. It's sounding like that may be a permanent switch for him, given their struggles at that position and that CB is somewhat of a strength when healthy (Culliver, Breeland, Blackmon, and Jarrett).
I hope him playing safety isn't a permanent move. It calls for more and harder hits and I think it'll shorten his career (which is already getting near the end). Having 5 decent CB's is not a liability in the NFL -- 2 injuries and the 5th guy is on the field for 60% of the plays. I'm hoping Hall playing S is more due to lack of good S personnel.

edit: LaRon Landry has finished his suspension and is available. I'd rather see Hall at S than Landry.
I think some guys move to safety late in their careers because they lose their speed to be able to play corner, but still have the secondary skills so they move them to safety. Therefore, I think we may see Hall move to safety in coming years. IT's a good point though about Hall not being a big hitter...so maybe this traditional logic doesn't apply to him as much...
Look at Charles Woodson. I have no issue with moving Hall to S. We need help back there, so it's not like Hall could be much worse.

 
Have you noticed that when you "like" someone's post, the next time you view it, it says on the screen: "You like this." Pretty funny to view this on a Kirk Cousins related post. :D

 
There was an article on NFL.com about who would win the division. Was a bit surprised to see this choice:

Washington Redskins: Schedule is favorable
If we assume the division will be won with a 9-7 record (and that may be optimistic), here is how Washington will have to do it: They have the toughest test out of the box this week, having to travel to Carolina. Let's assume they don't win there. They then follow up with very winnable games at home vs. the Giants and Cowboys, then go to Chicago. They have a tough game at home against Buffalo, followed by road games in Philly and Dallas for the division. As long as quarterback Kirk Cousins does not turn the ball over, they win. They're running better and are seventh in the NFL in third-down conversions. Except for against Carolina and Buffalo, this formula may get it done.
Brian Billick is smoking crack. While it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that the Redskins make a surprise push late in the season, I don't thin the schedule is favorable at all:

Carolina - undefeated

Giants -- best team in NFC East + we play them after their bye, in which they are 4-1 all time

Dallas -- you can't get more unfavorable honestly...everyone else gets to play them with Weeden and Cassel and we get them TWICE with Romo. Don't forget, before Romo and Dez went down this team was considered favorites to go to playoffs and their defense is still stout.

Philly -- always tough

Buffalo - you saw how they beat the Jets...they are a quality team

Chicago -- surging

I don't see one cupcake on that schedule and in fact see many games that will be very difficult to win. I don't think it's impossible to get to 9-7 but these are some really rose colored glasses where Billick is assuming we'll go 5-2 the rest of the way! That's losing to Carolina and then just dropping ONE more game!
From a National Media view it does look favorable for The Redskins. We've got 4 division games plus games against Chicago and Buffalo who might not be playing for much of anything at all. Those of us that follow the team however I think know that there are no easy winnable games left.

That being said the division is really shaping up in The Redskins favor:

Dallas has Romo coming back who will win just enough games to foul up their draft position

Philadelphia is a mess and Chip Kelly looks in way over his head. I'm interested to see what talent he'll ship out this off-season, he's made that team worse since he took over.

New York is good, especially within the division so they are always hard.

 
There was an article on NFL.com about who would win the division. Was a bit surprised to see this choice:

Washington Redskins: Schedule is favorable
If we assume the division will be won with a 9-7 record (and that may be optimistic), here is how Washington will have to do it: They have the toughest test out of the box this week, having to travel to Carolina. Let's assume they don't win there. They then follow up with very winnable games at home vs. the Giants and Cowboys, then go to Chicago. They have a tough game at home against Buffalo, followed by road games in Philly and Dallas for the division. As long as quarterback Kirk Cousins does not turn the ball over, they win. They're running better and are seventh in the NFL in third-down conversions. Except for against Carolina and Buffalo, this formula may get it done.
I think Brian Billick is pretty wrong on several counts. Neither the Giants or Cowboys games at home are "very winnable". The Giants usually overpower the Skins and have done it once already this year, and damn near beat the Patriots who put the Redskins out of the game in the 1st quarter. Romo will be back and beating his team is seldom easy. The Bears are scoring and winning lately; it's like nobody has noticed. Buffalo has a tough defense and (given what we've seen from the rush defense) could run all day on the Skins. Then come away games against the Cowboys and Eagles, and neither of those figure to be easy.

I do not see an easy game left on the schedule. No decimated defenses or helpless offenses.

edited to add: Right now the Panthers are a significantly better team than the Redskins. It would take an awful lot of things going just right to beat them, and I don't see that happening. I see a 7-10 point loss.
That was pretty much what I was thinking as I was reading the article. Glad to see it wasn't just me. Maybe he got sucked in by the one good game against the Saints? If so, probaby shouldn't be writing for a major sports site.

 
That was pretty much what I was thinking as I was reading the article. Glad to see it wasn't just me. Maybe he got sucked in by the one good game against the Saints? If so, probaby shouldn't be writing for a major sports site.
Anybody who got sucked in by anything in the Saints/Redskins game would be making a mistake. That game was a huge aberration. The only thing from the game you could count on carrying over to other games is that Rob Ryan sucks as a defensive coordinator.

But he got fired, so there's not even that. :lol:

Billick just isn't paying much attention to what is going on in football. Not unusual for a talking head.

 
That was pretty much what I was thinking as I was reading the article. Glad to see it wasn't just me. Maybe he got sucked in by the one good game against the Saints? If so, probaby shouldn't be writing for a major sports site.
Anybody who got sucked in by anything in the Saints/Redskins game would be making a mistake. That game was a huge aberration. The only thing from the game you could count on carrying over to other games is that Rob Ryan sucks as a defensive coordinator.

But he got fired, so there's not even that. :lol:

Billick just isn't paying much attention to what is going on in football. Not unusual for a talking head.
Ryan was set up to fail. They don't have the players for his scheme/strength.
 
Silas Redd (practice squad) suspended 4 games by NFL for substance abuse violation. Christine Michael added to roster.

 
Silas Redd (practice squad) suspended 4 games by NFL for substance abuse violation. Christine Michael added to roster.
Good gawd. Does this mean those that frequent the cmike thread will be stopping by now?
I hope not. One of us will have to slip some Adderall in his gatorade and get him drug tested.

edit: Crap, they noticed. https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/735055-christine-michael-volume-25-cmike-goes-to-washington/page-47#entry18607085

 
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So can we now stop all the silly, Saint's based "Cousins extension, should get a huge contract" talk? Return to the norm. I know I'm in the large minority, but I was really looking forward to seeing what the skins had in RG3 this year. Now we'll likely never know.

 

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