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*Official 2016 Philadelphia Eagles* - The year of Change (1 Viewer)
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modogg
Footballguy
hah, i forgot about that. Yeah, he is a good guy to bring in.
At the least, we can be ready to play Pittsburgh and their thug coaching staff with some guys better prepared than all the pot bellies we have seen
Rimez
Footballguy
take a step back and try to realize you guys just hired reids assistant and he didnt even get to call the plays. you went from an offense mastermind to the guy that makes coffee for the guy running the most vanilla and un-explosive offense in the entire league. gratz.
Insein
Footballguy
The wall that all these pundits have thrown #### at. I imagine Doug doesn't have his mind on which coordinators he's going to hire right now. He's thinking how to attack NE's defense. They'll be time to build a staff.
jon007
Footballguy
So which player(s) / coach(es) does Chip leech and take to San Fran.
Kenjon Barner @KBDeuce4 8h8 hours ago
Just got the news about Chip couldn't be happier for him, congrats Coach!
Kenjon Barner @KBDeuce4 8h8 hours ago
Just got the news about Chip couldn't be happier for him, congrats Coach!
Insein
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
this is interesting if true (big if, i know). explains why Coughlin didn't take Eagles job (couldn't take his guys with him and didn't want to start with new staff) and suggest it was really close:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2016/1/14/10771462/tom-coughlin-eagles-giants-head-coach-philadelphia
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2016/1/14/10771462/tom-coughlin-eagles-giants-head-coach-philadelphia
Insein
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
I like Pederson for you guys. Way better than Coughlin. Young and seems like he's got a good report with players but commands respect.
Is there any concern that seemingly staff is in place/getting set up around him and he won't pick his own Coordinators?
Is there any concern that seemingly staff is in place/getting set up around him and he won't pick his own Coordinators?
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
It's a damn shame Chip didn't get personel control in SF. We would have that 2nd rounder back in no time.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I'm torn on how I feel with Childress. If it's Peterson calling the plays I'm ok with it and from what I remember Childress didn't do a bad job calling plays when Andy allowed him to. Or am I misremembering?
I get the 'going back to the good old days' thing but I draw the line at Childress. Would much rather Shurmur stay OC
The impatient nature of being a sports fan must have us all cheering for KC to lose this weekend right?
hey. I forgot to congratulate you on quarterback shltting the bed once he got on the big stage. Back to the drawing board. You like that?!?
Insein
Footballguy
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Wide 9??
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I think that Childress was credited with getting Andy to re-focus on the run when he would get too pass-heavy.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Just saw that we have around 20 million in cap space and could free up around 15 more million.
With Bradford currently not under contract, he's going to gobble up about 18 million of that. Unless that was factored in already.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
It's a weakness. What can I say. I enjoy pummeling trolls and reminding them that they're idiots. Especially since I think Eagle fans all refrained from being classless and rubbing it in after their ### whooping to Green Bay at home. I donate to the Salvation Army, help old ladies across the street, and love puppies. So I have good qualities too. My weakness is needing to smack trolls across the nose with a rolled up newspaper.
dhockster
Footballguy
My guess is the talk of coordinators is premature (as in they haven't hired them yet) or Pederson is having input into who is actually getting hired. I think Lurie is smart enough not to try and hire people who will work for the coach without the coach having input.
I think we can agree that Pederson has a good offensive mind and is a good OC. Does that mean he will be a good head coach? We don't know. Some Coordinators become great head coaches, some are terrible head coaches and should have never been a head coach because they could never stop just coaching one side of the ball.
Hiring an NFL coordinator means you have someone who understands coaching NFL Players. Hiring a college head coach means you have someone who understands coaching a whole team. There are pros and cons to both. Let's hope Pederson is smart enough to know that he has to coach all 53 guys and not just the guys on the offensive side of the ball.
dhockster
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I like how he criticized Kansas City and their offense, while they won their wild card game and have now won 11 straight. While his sorry-### team gets outscored 35-7 after being spotted 11 points early. But I guess their 18 points were imaginative. Bwahahaha Perhaps someone should have made some coffee for Kirk Cousins last week. Maybe he wouldn't have played like he was asleep.
dhockster
Footballguy
Depends if we sign him to a long term deal or just franchise him. If we franchise him it's a one year deal and the salary is the cap hit. I am leery of giving Bradford to big/long a contract with his injury history.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Yea, we've got enough money we can save when we cut Celek and Cooper (and maybe Peters) that it's better, imo, to franchise Bradford for a year and see how he does.
... Which probably means, he'll have another year of starting slow, then appearing to pick it up by the end, with missing a few games in the middle to leave us all still wondering.
... Which probably means, he'll have another year of starting slow, then appearing to pick it up by the end, with missing a few games in the middle to leave us all still wondering.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Any chance they move training camp back to Lehigh Valley now that Chip's gone ( I know that was his thing, right?). That'd be awesome - used to head up there in the summer.
Saw someone ask Reuben this yesterday and he said with the nature of the CBA and no 2-a-days, that it would be unlikely.
Would surely be the best way for Pederson to win the fans over right away though so you never know.
Insein
Footballguy
That's the trick. A long term deal will leave the cap number moderately small at first. Franchise just puts it all in one year.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Anyone know if KC uses a FB? I'm also curious if it will be Doug who calls the plays or the OC
The Noid
Avoid me!
They probably make money from merch and concessions during the two "free admission" training camp days at The Linc. Plus all the money and state-of-the-art training equipment they invested in the Nova Care facility. So I think it's unlikely (and probably not even Pederson's call; I get the feeling he's going to be a "company" man.)
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
It was already becoming more common across the league not to go away anyway. and with the facilities that they have now in the city, it kind of makes sense to use them.
modogg
Footballguy
i think the only thing that would make me disappointed is if they signed Bradford to a long, expensive contract. everything i am reading makes it sound like money will be a big push for him, but i really don't want to lock in long-term money on him at this point. I think franchising makes sense, but you really hurt your ability to make any other adjustments or moves this off-season. could leave us with Bradford for a 1-year assessment and a crappy OL that will never let us see what Bradford can do.
but here is another option that i know was mentioned in here before, that i would like to see:
Chase DanielAssuming Bradford is gone, the Eagles are going to need a new veteran. And wouldn't it be funny if Doug Pederson signed his own version of Doug Pederson? That player would be none other than current Chiefs backup quarterback Chase Daniel. The 29-year-old Daniel is scheduled to be a free agent after the season. Pederson could sell Daniel on the idea of getting a chance to be the starter in Philadelphia.
Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying Daniel is likely the Eagles' next franchise quarterback. Through six NFL seasons, he's only started two games. He's completed 64.9% of his passes for 464 yards, one touchdown, one interception, and a 80.2 rating. The appeal is that he's an inexpensive placeholder who is familiar with Pederson's offense. In the best case scenario, he wins the Eagles' quarterback job and proves to be good starter. In the most realistic scenario, he starts some games and allows the team to groom a young quarterback behind him, similar to how Pederson started over Donovan McNabb in 1999.
It all depends on what Doug thinks, but if he worked with him for a bit and thinks he can be a good piece for a few years while we look for a long-term option, i am ok with that
but here is another option that i know was mentioned in here before, that i would like to see:
Chase DanielAssuming Bradford is gone, the Eagles are going to need a new veteran. And wouldn't it be funny if Doug Pederson signed his own version of Doug Pederson? That player would be none other than current Chiefs backup quarterback Chase Daniel. The 29-year-old Daniel is scheduled to be a free agent after the season. Pederson could sell Daniel on the idea of getting a chance to be the starter in Philadelphia.
Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying Daniel is likely the Eagles' next franchise quarterback. Through six NFL seasons, he's only started two games. He's completed 64.9% of his passes for 464 yards, one touchdown, one interception, and a 80.2 rating. The appeal is that he's an inexpensive placeholder who is familiar with Pederson's offense. In the best case scenario, he wins the Eagles' quarterback job and proves to be good starter. In the most realistic scenario, he starts some games and allows the team to groom a young quarterback behind him, similar to how Pederson started over Donovan McNabb in 1999.
It all depends on what Doug thinks, but if he worked with him for a bit and thinks he can be a good piece for a few years while we look for a long-term option, i am ok with that
Peterson knows this town well enough to know that he needs Bradford more than Bradford needs him. If Peterson doesn't AT LEAST win the same amount of games that Chip did this past year, this town will have his head on a swivel. Eagle fans, and the horrible WIP station, would never get behind a rebuild. If the Eagles roll out Sanchez or Hoyer or Daniels or some other free agent because they were cheap, Peterson gets one, maybe two years, tops.
modogg
Footballguy
we are giving the Sixers the benefit of the doubt, and their turnaround is much longer, I don't think you need to do a complete rebuild, but if you invest money in OL, get a better WR coach who can work with players to catch the ball, and work out some of the other building pieces people will in. I think if they try to do the "same old" Bradford will be hurt by week 4 or 5 and it will be a mess anyway. I think the team is very fixable, but they need to be smart about it too. Key is Peterson needs to be more open with the media and fans and explain that it will take some time for him to implement his coaching style, and maybe offense, for this team.
ETA: lol. I have to not write so quick and actually look at what i type. I happened to look at the first "sentence" and I don't think i could have tried to cram another comma in there if i tried.
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Nope, definitely not. We won't really know until KC is out and Pederson (I really wish I could type DP for short but I just can't bring myself to do it) picks/helps picks his guys.
He could go down to QB coach, could stay as OC, or could bolt and take another job in the nfl (SF OC???)
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Thanks. I hope Doug does the same and brings in a FB. That would really help Murray and the ground game a tonroarlions said:
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
Its "Pederson". Looks like we gonna have to get used to it.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I think that the difference, though, is that the Sixers probably are 4th in the city in terms of core fan base, Eagles are more important to people than the other 3 teams combined. Plus it seems like most people are strongly against the hire (at least the vocal ones on the radio), so any perceived failure is going to get immediately blasted.
Regardless, I'm not sure that it matters, because I don't think that Lurie really cares about that. The Eagles were vilified for all their supposed misdeeds (e.g. Hoagiegate, "the gold standard", Reid's last few years), and I don't think it played any role in any of his decisions.
Again, Goff won't fall to us. To take another QB reach and hope we can groom him to a starter would be a disaster. If you think fans are mad now, imagine if we draft a 1st round QB, let Sam walk, and win 5 games. The hating on him bandwagon was for the short-sighted. There is no imaginable way that keeping Sam isn't going to make our team better next year. We have way bigger needs in round 1.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
I don't trust Bradford to stay healthy enough to justify the investment in him long term.
