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I don't disagree. Even if you remove Ross that puts the list at 14.
I'm the opposite. The top 3 give you a variety to chose from depending on what we need. You have a Jeffery type in Williams, a huge deep threat in Ross and Davis IMO is the best of the bunch and seems to have it all.
I thought you said Foster might slip to round 2? I don't think he's still a "omg great pick!" guy if he's on the board at 14 and we take him. Same for John Ross and a couple others in there.
Agree. First 4 are pretty tough in combination. At WASH and at KC. Then have to face NYG at home and then go to LA. Just really difficult with 3 road games like that and a divisional opponent in the home game.
My opinion isnt the end all. I do believe he will slip but a majority of people disagree so I tossed him in there.
Kinda seems like we should hope to be around 500 by the bye and hope to get hot at the end
We got a mid 3rd rounder in 2014 for moving from pick 22 to pick 26 I have to believe moving from pick 14 to say 25 is easily worth a 2nd
I know what the worth is. I'm just saying there has to be a team that wants to move up.
Sorry misunderstood but I think if all they want is a 2nd to move back some team would do it. I think there has to be someone a team likes a at 14th especially if there isn't a qb taken which was my argument. If no qb is taken is there anyone worth staying at 14 for instead of moving back and getting a 2nd or 3rd.
I kind of agree. A lot of guys who were hyped up even at the end of the season have seemed to fallen as well. I'm not big on any of the WRs. I'd love Cook but even we could still trade back get an extra pick or two and get him I'd be more then happy. I like Barnett but not even sure he's gonna be there. The CBs most of the ones I like are being projected late 1st early 2nd and I'm just not a fan of some of the guys they project us to get in the 1st at that position. Foster I'm not a bit hesitant on even if he does fall. I think McCaffery has been extremely overrated and the only two RB last names I want to hear if we take a RB in round 1 is Fournett or Cook. I think McCaffery is gonna be a good player but I just don't see him being anything more then a mismatch type guy where you have a few formations and plays for him and then he's used as your primary return guy.
Isn't Watts more of a 3-4 guy anyway and Dal plays a 3-4 so he wouldn't be a terrible move.G-King said:
Howard I could see an argument for. He didn't produce a lot at Bama but they were a run first team and their WRs never had a lot of production. Amari Cooper coming out didn't even have huge numbers if I remember correctly either. He's fast and athletic for his size and he can block. He's a match up nightmare. Hooker is more a safety and we're set unless you think you'd want to grab someone with Jenkins getting older now and we do need Safety Depth. Conley I'm not a fan of. Seems way too soft for what Schwartz wants in a Corner and would be in the doghouse day 1. I'm starting to think Rowe was traded because he wasn't physical enough to Schwartz liking and remembered reading that he was upset with him making the same mistakes over and over again. As for Ross he's a poor man DeSean Jackson with a bigger injury prone history then Jackson coming into the league. I've said this before but non of the WRs in this draft are really top 20 Caliber WRs. Scouts think Williams is too inconsistent doesn't have the speed and because of the short DB in ACC worried about 50/50 jump balls as NFL DBs are a lot bigger. Corey Davis seems like a safe pick but tends to have the case of the drops every now and again and for his conference I'd have liked to see some better production in some games he didn't look good in against teams he should've absolutely dominated. At this point unless someone really falls they like I'd trade back. Not too far but if I can get another 3 or if Howie can Pull off a two I'll take it. Maybe use that extra pick and Kendrick/Kelce and sneak back into the 1st late and take a CB or someone who fell or you wouldn't get in the early stages of round 2 you coveted.
I'd take a 2nd and depending how far we move back say package that with say Kendrick/Kelce sneak back in the round again isn't a bad thought either. Get two solid guys in round 1 who can hopefully impact the team from day 1, get rid of a player you don't see in the future of the team and no get rid of a lot of picks.
While the Texans rarely trade up, they may have to to get the QB they want. They supposedly like Mahomes a lot and he may not be there at 25 as I think there is a good chance that a team behind the Texans trades up right before 25 to take him. The Texans have so screwed up their QB position under O'Brien, I think they really need to get their future QB this year. Otherwise, O'Brien is likely to be gone if Savage busts badly. I think Rick Smith should pay the price as well but he is too well liked by Bob McNair to lose his job.
I was never a doug fan I would like to see O'Brien come here if he is fired and work with Wentz I think he is a good coach with not even a average Qb
Be careful what you wish for. I think most of the Texans success under O'Brien is because of the defense and being in a weak division. He runs a very complicated offense which is why Osweiller failed so badly. The Texans are 14-4 against the AFC South and 13-17 against everyone else under O'Brien.
How convenient that this comes out two days before the draft.
If it wasn't ESP reporting it then I'd probably believe it. If he is there in the 2nd, despite the incredibly stupid thing he did his freshmen year, it'd be hard for me to pass up.Fire back up the Mixon debate
Eliot Shorr-Parks of NJ Advance Media reports the Eagles are "very interested" in Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon.
The report came on the same day Jets GM Mike Maccagnan made it clear his team is not interested in taking Mixon because of his off-field past, highlighting the disparity of opinion throughout the league. Mixon only needs one team to take the plunge, however, and it is possible the Eagles are that organization. The running back has also been linked with the Vikings, Bengals, and Raiders.
Conley's accuser went to the hospital and immediately and got a rape kit taken. If true, that's not something a false accuser would do IMO
Where did you read that?
I agree but I'm not a PSU fan so I'm not saying that because BoB used them like a stepping stone and PSU people got mad at him for it because they weren't use to the normalcy for lack of better words for that. I think he's nothing more then a product of NE no different then Josh McDaniel.Insein said:
I'd be ok with Foster I have no issue with him. I don't get what's so good about Conley and BGN did a study on Jim Schwartz successful CBs from measurement and skillset among other things and Conley was mostly completely off the list. I have a huge theory Eric Rowe was traded because he was too soft and JS wanted a better CB. If you want the type of player Mixon is why not take Kamara who is a similar player and just as productive in a much tougher conference and a poster child for behaving?
I was thinking of another player then and not Conley. I knew Conley was taken off the list do to something though. His measurables are there but I'm not big on his lack of physicality at all and I think Schwartz Ds thrive off physicality. I liked Asante Samuel don't get me wrong but I don't think he'd have fit in JS Def either. He use to frustrate me with the lack of tackling. For everyone who complained about DeSean shying away from being physical on offense the same people never seemed to have issues with Samuel running away from tackles. I remember one game he literally ran away from the play to not get hit or make a tackle on.
No offense intended here for real, but you always seem to dislike a player for a personal thing he did, and then go off on how he's not a good football player after that. You talk about Mixon's poor division and how you're not a fan of offensive players in that conference every day. Always appreciate football-related analysis of prospects, but I'm not sure you'd be as vocally down on Mixon/Conleys football skills as much if these issues didn't come up. Mixon and Conley are good football players.
I get what you are saying but anyone who knows me will say I'm not big on Big 12 players at all. I've also never been big on OSU Corners and have always said Malcolm Jenkins can't be our slot CB and he was moved from CB for a reason. I know people don't want to talk bad about Jenkins here but losing Brooks as our Slot CB really put us at a disadvantage. I'm the same way with OSU Corners as some people are with Alabama CBs. I remember asking a few times before these accusations why people like Conley and never have really gotten an answer and have more then once maybe not on here have said why I don't like him.
Well except he was having a 4 some at the wee hours of the morning right before draft. Plus what is the girls motivation here for lying? She's not getting any money. Once it's public that chance goes away. This sounds like a Kobe situation to me where "I'm Mr. big shot and you will have sex with me and like it." Then afterwards the girl realizes what just happened.
What I read was she was mad she got kicked out of the room. No sex happened according to him and others
The report says he continued until he 'finished'. If she went immediately to the police, seems it would be quite easy to know if he had sex with her or not.
