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Maybe we are. I watched Carson make do pretty well with what he had when lane was there and saw his mechanics and his decision making fall apart when lane wasn't. I agree that he had to rely on TEs and RBs more than most. I'm just saying everyone is hung up on WR when I don't really know whether we can trust lane going forward, and peters is an even bigger concern. 35 with lots of nagging injuries and due 11.2 million.
I think that, more than anything, Wentz needs a couple of WRs who 1) can hold onto the ball, 2) run perfect routes and 3) show younger WRs what it takes to be a veteran WR in the NFL. I don't think Jackson does that. I'm not sure if Jeffery does that.Bigboy10182000 said:
I think they'd be hard pressed to draft an RB in the first round, given the leagues devaluation of drafting that position almost across the board.
Agree, I'm actually hoping we don't get either of those two. I like Stills as a deep threat, another veteran and hopefully draft one that could develop into a stud.
i'll disagree that everyone else is expendable. I am glad they went out and got an experienced WR coach, and i would love to give him the summer and let's see how the WRs look in July and August. You have real young guys, and young WRs often take time to develop (remember the old fantasy rule about 3-year WRs?). i want to see these guys with some good coaching, and would rather focus on protecting Carson with OL if needed and getting a CB
I agree here I'd go WR in FA but wouldn't go all in crazy. We've drafted or traded for a WR in DGB case that's been an early round pick the last few yrs. They are still young. I think we need a legit playmaker and I agree on Patterson. Loved the guy at Tenn and I think Patterson could be used the way DP used Huff before he decided to be a #######. I say we go T later in the draft we did well with the Big V pick. i think Isaac Seamulo is the guy who ends up playing C. Other ways I want to upgrade or add depth is both OLB and MLB as well as DL. We may need a DT if we lose Beenie.
Fair point but that may be a rear view look into drafting. As with other positions I sense that the RB devaluation is a cyclical thing that we may see the NFL evolving out of. Adding a dynamic talent like Cook in the draft and adding a few mid range priced WRs would improve this offense dramatically.
Actually, my entire post was "FWIW, Matthews ran a 4.46 and Jeffery ran 4.53" when he said Matthews didn't have the speed to get deep. I wasn't trying to make a stink about it, just dropping a simple fact, but he's clearly got a fragile ego and had to argue it to death. Some people are just born
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http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr
Of the 93 WRs who got 50+ targets last season, 75 of them put up positive DYAR. That's four out of every five! So not a real high bar to clear, right? Let's see how our fine-feathered friends did ...
Those numbers, in my opinion, are exactly why we have to have a Jeffery on our team. Is there a strong enough word that would be able to describe just how bad they were last season?Mr. Irrelevant said:
I respect that opinion. There's always one team that bucks the trend and starts a new one. If Cook truly is a 3 Down talent...he'll make every player on that O better.
this is kind of my thought. Shark teams zig when the rest of the league zags. Not saying RB is top need, but wouldn't rule it out either
Translation, we had nothing else to write about. So now let's write a non story about Lurie not letting someone leave who's under contract. Verbal commitments are worth the paper they're written on.
Can we define how you want to measure career success? Wins? Yards? Rings?
I'd be down for some of that action. At the risk of skewing too heavily toward one source of data, I'd call the "winner" as the best 2 out of 3 of:
I've got nothing but time. And let's be honest, odds are one of the two flame out in less than 5.
I agree higher ceiling and more potential. Not to take anything away from Dak but I was never a full believer in him. He basically looks like McNabb but McNabb with Weapons around him and a top WR. McNabb never had a Zeke at RB and had a 1 1/2 yrs of a Dez in TO. The Oline now that would be a very debatable because I think that Oline for us back then was one of the leagues best if not the best when everyone was healthy during his prime. Plus I think Dal has a lot of egos on that team who will eventually implode. They already lost McClain do to another PED as well as Gregory for a year.renesauz said:
Yeah Rings are dumb if we went by Rings Joe Namath is a better QB then Dan Marino and I think a lot of Mia fans and football fans in General who are smart people would disagree with that. If you compare McNabb and Joe Namath's career numbers they have similar stats but McNabb has a way better TD/INT ratio as well as Pass per INTO ratio. Naamath was a turnover machine and frankly only in the HOF because he won a SB that he opened his fat mouth the day before guarantying a victory no one thought he could or the Jets could take. Mariano might if not be the best QB in NFL history never to win a SB.Bogart said:
Jesus. That's who they are targeting? That guy is a hack. He's not a #1 WR, he's not a #2 WR so you are better off drafting a guy than wasting big $ on a guy that drops passes.
I like him as part of the group, he won't be a #1. Was surprised what they see as his price range ugh.
He stretches the field and is young, would much rather have him than an old diva like DJax.
I disagree. I would rather have the cheaper of the two. Djax still has a couple years left.
This is my stance as well. Both would help being able to stretch the field, which we desperately need. Just give me the cheaper of the two. If all is equal, I want Desean.
There's at least one report out there that Stills could be asking for nearly $10M per season.
Not just "no" at that price, but "hell no."
That price is insane, the Tavon Austin contract screws everyone except Austin.Mr. Irrelevant said:There's at least one report out there that Stills could be asking for nearly $10M per season.
I don't hate Stills, but the Eagles have way too little cap space to be throwing that kind of coin at yet another WR who isn't and won't ever be a true #1. Not saying you can't ensemble-cast your way to success at WR (see also: New England) ... but if you want to succeed with a crew full of role players, you better pay them like role players (see also: New England).
I hope they stay away from him and look towards cordarrelle patterson. I would love to see CP in this offense and he also fills the special team needs.
I think he did a good job. But when I look at his 10 wins with the schedule he had vs. the 7 wins Doug Pedersen had with his schedule (and a rookie QB), and I can't really say who did the better job. I think they both did good jobs in their first year.
i read this today:
I think CP actually cares about being a better player, and at worst he is a great return guy.
Easy to say rookie qb, but I think Wentz is better even as a rookie than Tannehill is. I think the homer in us wants to say they're the same. I'm happy with Pederson for sure, but I doubt anyone would say they were equals this year.dhockster said:
I just did the bolded.
My God reading that just reminds me of how insane the Eagles schedule ended up being. THIRTEEN games against teams with winning records? NINE games against playoff teams?
they have 3 1st and 2nd round WRs they have drafted in the last 2-3 years. so they already have that. with those guys if they are giving up on them then fine but they should cut them or at least not let them get in the way of other growing WRs.
