Must have paddled from the Keys
That one didn't have a name, but came ashore in Florida and then held its strength by drawing energy as it crossed Lake Okeechobee.National Hurricane Center
The eye of #Dorian has made a second landfall at 2 pm EDT (1800 UTC) on Great Abaco Island near Marsh Harbour. Maximum sustained winds were 185 mph at the time. This is tied for the strongest Atlantic hurricane landfall on record with the 1935 Labor Day hurricane.
Darwin candidates are ever with us.
The question is: how much of that is regular wobble, interaction with the islands, and the high interacting with it? I feel as though that's more of the former two, but I'm nowhere near certain.Windfield
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Also shows track today which has been all west till the last hour where finally seeing north movements
I would rather deal with hurricanes.No. This isn’t coming to us but it’s still terrifying to think of potentially happening. I need to take a job in Iowa or something.
What does this mean? What do 'hunters' actually do? I don't mean this demeaning....but trying to understand. Do they travel to where the storm is for temperature and wind pressure?Multiple hunters in the storm right now. Trying to get ideal data set for the night model runs.
Things I wouldn't do no matter the salary.
Exactly...they gather data directly from the storm system.What does this mean? What do 'hunters' actually do? I don't mean this demeaning....but trying to understand. Do they travel to where the storm is for temperature and wind pressure?
Maybe a dumb question, but I'll ask. Do they have the technology/financial means to travel over the storm or is this all done from ground-level?Exactly...they gather data directly from the storm system.
They fly into the storm.Maybe a dumb question, but I'll ask. Do they have the technology/financial means to travel over the storm or is this all done from ground-level?
Who pays for this? How much? How reliable is the data?They fly into the storm.
Does that go up the coast then or across the state?Doomcast alert
Latest hwrf animated.
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Hwrf is not awful on intensity but this close you can't throw that track out of bed.
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Though when was the last time you heard of a hunter dying in a hurricane pass?Multiple hunters in the storm right now. Trying to get ideal data set for the night model runs.
Things I wouldn't do no matter the salary.
Some information is gathered is from devices dropped into the storm which send data back to computers in the aircraft: DropsondeExactly...they gather data directly from the storm system.
Freeport at like 5:00 am tomorrow. This thing is crawlinghttps://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/36e7a5a573f5ba51fbe2d6aa3c1e5955a7e68b299fc9516538db08a44079c309.gif
About to hit the heavy tourist section. Hard.
It crushes Daytona, goes just inland and parallels 95 barely west of JAX. Do not want.Does that go up the coast then or across the state?
Nhc is absolutely stone cold staring down this thing and is like not today.It amazes me that this huge, monumental, historic storm is 200 miles away and heading straight toward me but due to science, math and some very smart people, I'm not very concerned because it's going to make that swing to the north due to troughs, ridges, high and low pressure systems and a bunch of other stuff that I sort of understand but not really.
While I get why all the complainers out there that think that "they" should be able to predict the tracks better, I'm pretty damn impressed how far forecasting has come over the last 10-15 years. It's not a perfect science by any means but is sure is a hell of a lot more accurate now than it was not very long ago.
Simply amazing.
Needs to start turning soon thoughMost latest ensemble models. All the major ones have center still taking a hard right. Noaa forecasters have to be on a red bull drip right now.
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Definitely more accurate than 10-15 years ago.It amazes me that this huge, monumental, historic storm is 200 miles away and heading straight toward me but due to science, math and some very smart people, I'm not very concerned because it's going to make that swing to the north due to troughs, ridges, high and low pressure systems and a bunch of other stuff that I sort of understand but not really.
While I get why all the complainers out there that think that "they" should be able to predict the tracks better, I'm pretty damn impressed how far forecasting has come over the last 10-15 years. It's not a perfect science by any means but is sure is a hell of a lot more accurate now than it was not very long ago.
Simply amazing.
Hence the Cone of Uncertainty, which sounds like it came straight from Get Smart.Definitely more accurate than 10-15 years ago.
However, last Tuesday there was only one outlier model predicting it would even grow to a category 3 storm. The official projection was a 70 mph tropical storm hitting Florida today. But them it missed Puerto Rico altogether, strengthened and the rest is history.
The paths have definitely gotten better, but intensity is still a crapshoot. This thing was barely wider than Puerto Rico before it went Super.Definitely more accurate than 10-15 years ago.
However, last Tuesday there was only one outlier model predicting it would even grow to a category 3 storm. The official projection was a 70 mph tropical storm hitting Florida today. But them it missed Puerto Rico altogether, strengthened and the rest is history.
Lots of info on their web site.Who pays for this? How much? How reliable is the data?
Even intesity is getting better. Even though Ike was "just" a Cat 2 when it hit here (Houston), the storm surge was well predicted. A lot of people died because they were focused on the wind speed, rather than the overall picture. And the rainfall predictions for Harvey were also spot on. The CBS affiliate meteorologists didn't think that 50 inches of rain could be possible, but they reported it anyway. I really thought that TS Allison was the gold standard for rain here. Oops.The paths have definitely gotten better, but intensity is still a crapshoot. This thing was barely wider than Puerto Rico before it went Super.
There had to have been snakes flying everywhere.That one didn't have a name, but came ashore in Florida and then held its strength by drawing energy as it crossed Lake Okeechobee.
For the lit buffs, Zora Neale Hurston told the tale of that storm as a chapter in Their Eyes Were Watching God.
In true FL resident fashion, gonna take the fam to theme park in morning and then come home midday for the necessary hunkering down...really could use the shift north to show up over night
I'm not up to speed on the storm at the momemt (no pun itended), but our we confident at this point that Dorian will curve north?Couldn’t sit around and wait for the turn any longer. Loaded up the wife, kids and dog in the car, made the two hour drive across Alligator Alley from Boca Raton to Naples. Hopefully all for naught. Stay safe.
I mean the hwrf has some decent track history close in. Tomorrow going to be a popcorn event if it wasn't so seriousHe kind of casually says near the end that he thinks HWRF is most likely, and that predicts Florida landfall at Cape Canaveral. If it weakens from upwelling, lower level steering currents pushing West may prevail.
Almost all models starting to agree that it will, but one never knows. I wouldn't blame anyone for leaving.I'm not up to speed on the storm at the momemt (no pun itended), but our we confident at this point that Dorian will curve north?
That’s what all the hurricane models and meteorologists are telling us, butI'm not up to speed on the storm at the momemt (no pun itended), but our we confident at this point that Dorian will curve north?
My concern, is Naples safe?Almost all models starting to agree that it will, but one never knows. I wouldn't blame anyone for leaving.I'm not up to speed on the storm at the momemt (no pun itended), but our we confident at this point that Dorian will curve north?
Certainly safer than where I was (5 miles from the east coast in Palm Beach County).My concern, is Naples safe?
It's safe from the storm surge. At least for now.My concern, is Naples safe?
It has to due to the ridges and other weather thingies that are gonna pull the storm north. It has no choice.I'm not up to speed on the storm at the momemt (no pun itended), but our we confident at this point that Dorian will curve north?