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[BigJohn]

If Ohio had integrity they would let him out of his LOI.

He hasn't requested yet.

 

[BigJohn]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

 

[MAC_32]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

so that makes it right.

 

[Bojang0301]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

so that makes it right.

About as right as Harbaugh's staff insinuating Weber would be the only back in his class. Pot calling the kettle black here. In all honesty its a smart move by Harbaugh + co. I wouldn't want my rival going into the heart of my country and taking a top recruit. But then again if he was just honest he would have had his first big win against OSU. Funny how that turned out.

 

[MAC_32]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

so that makes it right.

About as right as Harbaugh's staff insinuating Weber would be the only back in his class. Pot calling the kettle black here. In all honesty its a smart move by Harbaugh + co. I wouldn't want my rival going into the heart of my country and taking a top recruit. But then again if he was just honest he would have had his first big win against OSU. Funny how that turned out.

so what Urban did was right.

 

[Bobcat10]

The Weber situation and ones like it sucks for everyone. One recruiter shouldn't be so tied to one recruit. I admit I don't know all the rules though. Recruits should be committing to the school not the recruiter. And by school I don't necessarily mean education first. Your committing to the program. You don't see Elliot transferring because Drayton is leaving. If he really wants out, send him far away, or to UM, who cares. They have a better recruit targeted next year anyways.

And to those HS coaches threatening that garbage, go ahead cost your kids the chance to play at one of the best programs in the nation. You shouldn't strive to look like the bigger fool.

It's easy for us to say as outsiders looking in. All valid talking points, but none really rooted in reality. These are 17-18 year old kids getting pulled in a ton of different directions by a ton of different people. And I doubt many of those doing the pulling really care about the individual as much as they care about their job/program. The college coaches know that and act as they choose. I don't know why folks would lash out at the HS coaches protecting the kids they've coached for the better part of 4 years. Some of these guys are like "dads" to some of these guys.

I don't deny there is some suckage for Weber. All sides in this are in a bad position, I'd say we agree there. But if the sole reason he chose osu is for his position coach then he's not doing it right and is getting some bad guidance from "dad". I'd venture to say Drayton is selling a thousand more things about the program and school then about himself.Good "dads" don't tell their kids you can't go here or there for school. We will disagree about shutting the door on a place a kid might want to go. I'm sure there is a little bias going on here as well.

I doubt he did it soley for the position coach. That's a strawman argument that no one is making. It seems quite logical to be upset that the guy you grow closest to during recruiting up and leaves without telling you. To the last part, I'm not sure what any of that means. My position is that a good "dad" is there to give advice on situations and protect them where they know there is harm to be suffered. That includes both positive and negative experiences in recruiting. I don't know why that's "biased". My position on this is well documented where similar things have happened well before this one. It was the same then as it is now. You can go to the recruiting thread and look at the Bobby P incident recently, or the football thread when similar things happened at Alabama etc

My bias comment was directed at Wilcher and the other Michigan HS coaches, not you (I can see why you thought that the way I wrote it). Wilcher did go to UM.

The "dad" stuff is simply this... one wouldn't close the doors on anything with your kid. Give them advice, whatever. You said many of these coaches/kids are like father/son....I agree, I see the same thing 10 minutes from my house with Ted Ginn, Sr. and his program. Lock a school out of your building? Eh, if that guy wants to look as bad as that crummy OSU program, go for it.

If you (Commish) think that will help solve things, that's your opinion, I think that makes things worse and it's not right to those kids.

Yeah, i'm not suggesting that they refuse to allow kids to go to school there...not in the least. I have zero problem with the coaches telling them how previous recruits were treated though. Wilcher was big in helping Weber decommit from Michigan when the train was burning, so I'm not sure I buy that angle all that much. At least that's what Weber said in his comments of support from his HS coaching staff.

Ok, I thought you were supporting cutting ties.

 

[BigJohn]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

so that makes it right.

About as right as Harbaugh's staff insinuating Weber would be the only back in his class. Pot calling the kettle black here. In all honesty its a smart move by Harbaugh + co. I wouldn't want my rival going into the heart of my country and taking a top recruit. But then again if he was just honest he would have had his first big win against OSU. Funny how that turned out.

so what Urban did was right.

Nobody's saying it's right, but it's something that happens frequently. To deny other kids what could be a great opportunity based on a kids feelings getting hurt is pretty dumb.

 

[The Commish]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

Not even the first time it's happened this year, but not sure what that has to do with anything

 

[The Commish]

The Weber situation and ones like it sucks for everyone. One recruiter shouldn't be so tied to one recruit. I admit I don't know all the rules though. Recruits should be committing to the school not the recruiter. And by school I don't necessarily mean education first. Your committing to the program. You don't see Elliot transferring because Drayton is leaving. If he really wants out, send him far away, or to UM, who cares. They have a better recruit targeted next year anyways.

And to those HS coaches threatening that garbage, go ahead cost your kids the chance to play at one of the best programs in the nation. You shouldn't strive to look like the bigger fool.

It's easy for us to say as outsiders looking in. All valid talking points, but none really rooted in reality. These are 17-18 year old kids getting pulled in a ton of different directions by a ton of different people. And I doubt many of those doing the pulling really care about the individual as much as they care about their job/program. The college coaches know that and act as they choose. I don't know why folks would lash out at the HS coaches protecting the kids they've coached for the better part of 4 years. Some of these guys are like "dads" to some of these guys.

I don't deny there is some suckage for Weber. All sides in this are in a bad position, I'd say we agree there. But if the sole reason he chose osu is for his position coach then he's not doing it right and is getting some bad guidance from "dad". I'd venture to say Drayton is selling a thousand more things about the program and school then about himself.Good "dads" don't tell their kids you can't go here or there for school. We will disagree about shutting the door on a place a kid might want to go. I'm sure there is a little bias going on here as well.

I doubt he did it soley for the position coach. That's a strawman argument that no one is making. It seems quite logical to be upset that the guy you grow closest to during recruiting up and leaves without telling you. To the last part, I'm not sure what any of that means. My position is that a good "dad" is there to give advice on situations and protect them where they know there is harm to be suffered. That includes both positive and negative experiences in recruiting. I don't know why that's "biased". My position on this is well documented where similar things have happened well before this one. It was the same then as it is now. You can go to the recruiting thread and look at the Bobby P incident recently, or the football thread when similar things happened at Alabama etc

My bias comment was directed at Wilcher and the other Michigan HS coaches, not you (I can see why you thought that the way I wrote it). Wilcher did go to UM.

The "dad" stuff is simply this... one wouldn't close the doors on anything with your kid. Give them advice, whatever. You said many of these coaches/kids are like father/son....I agree, I see the same thing 10 minutes from my house with Ted Ginn, Sr. and his program. Lock a school out of your building? Eh, if that guy wants to look as bad as that crummy OSU program, go for it.

If you (Commish) think that will help solve things, that's your opinion, I think that makes things worse and it's not right to those kids.

Yeah, i'm not suggesting that they refuse to allow kids to go to school there...not in the least. I have zero problem with the coaches telling them how previous recruits were treated though. Wilcher was big in helping Weber decommit from Michigan when the train was burning, so I'm not sure I buy that angle all that much. At least that's what Weber said in his comments of support from his HS coaching staff.

Ok, I thought you were supporting cutting ties.

Na...not at this point. If it kept happening, I can't say I'd blame him for cutting ties. And by cutting ties, I mean not encouraging his players to entertain offers from certain schools, not forbidding them from going to said schools. I'm not even sure they're allowed to do that.

 

[The Commish]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

so that makes it right.

About as right as Harbaugh's staff insinuating Weber would be the only back in his class. Pot calling the kettle black here. In all honesty its a smart move by Harbaugh + co. I wouldn't want my rival going into the heart of my country and taking a top recruit. But then again if he was just honest he would have had his first big win against OSU. Funny how that turned out.

Link? Or do you mean Weber being "surprised" another RB committed on signing day?

 

[MAC_32]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

so that makes it right.

About as right as Harbaugh's staff insinuating Weber would be the only back in his class. Pot calling the kettle black here. In all honesty its a smart move by Harbaugh + co. I wouldn't want my rival going into the heart of my country and taking a top recruit. But then again if he was just honest he would have had his first big win against OSU. Funny how that turned out.

so what Urban did was right.

Nobody's saying it's right, but it's something that happens frequently. To deny other kids what could be a great opportunity based on a kids feelings getting hurt is pretty dumb.

Only way it may change.

 

[MAC_32]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

so that makes it right.

About as right as Harbaugh's staff insinuating Weber would be the only back in his class. Pot calling the kettle black here. In all honesty its a smart move by Harbaugh + co. I wouldn't want my rival going into the heart of my country and taking a top recruit. But then again if he was just honest he would have had his first big win against OSU. Funny how that turned out.

Link? Or do you mean Weber being "surprised" another RB committed on signing day?

its just a deflection technique.

 

[Bobcat10]

He is apparently quoted rather clearly here:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/02/04/mike-weber-ohio-state-michigan/22856749/

"I thought I was really the only back to get recruited in that class and when I heard (Higdon) was committed, it was like, 'Oh, well then there you go.'" Weber said. "That was the answer. That's what it was."

 

[Bojang0301]

It seems like a lot of you believe this is the first time this has happened.

so that makes it right.

About as right as Harbaugh's staff insinuating Weber would be the only back in his class. Pot calling the kettle black here. In all honesty its a smart move by Harbaugh + co. I wouldn't want my rival going into the heart of my country and taking a top recruit. But then again if he was just honest he would have had his first big win against OSU. Funny how that turned out.

Link? Or do you mean Weber being "surprised" another RB committed on signing day?

I posted the link in a previous post. If you want to try and interpret it in some other way so be it. I can only think of one logical conclusion as to why Weber thought he was the only RB being recruited by Harbaugh. Which is why his little quote is idiotic. I like this though. Been a good while since things got squirrely between the teams.

 

[The Commish]

He is apparently quoted rather clearly here:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/02/04/mike-weber-ohio-state-michigan/22856749/

"I thought I was really the only back to get recruited in that class and when I heard (Higdon) was committed, it was like, 'Oh, well then there you go.'" Weber said. "That was the answer. That's what it was."

Right...this is what I was referring to in my post about him being surprised. Him thinking something vs Harbaugh being accused of something are two different things IMO. It's clear to anyone watching that Michigan needed a RB in this class. Did Weber actually believe that if he didn't pick Michigan there wasn't a backup plan on Michigan's side? I suppose that's possible. I don't see the two incidents being similar enough to be a "but your team is doing it too" comparison. There were plenty of RBs out there with offers from Michigan, to think they weren't serious seems a bit odd to me. Not to mention the fact that the one that did accept was offered really late in the process.

 

[The Commish]

Story of Karan Higdon's Commitment

Pretty good read...a bit long.

 

[Bojang0301]

Weber breaks silence:

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dfZbW

It was a good play by Harbaugh to buy some cred up North but this was really a non story over a stupid tweet. I guess that's what the world has come to.

#gobucks

 

[The Commish]

Weber breaks silence:

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dfZbW

It was a good play by Harbaugh to buy some cred up North but this was really a non story over a stupid tweet. I guess that's what the world has come to.

#gobucks

ummmm...what?

 

[LAUNCH]

Michigan at Utah - Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:00 PM

103 Michigan

+6 -120

104 Utah

-6 -120

 

[The Commish]

Michigan at Utah - Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:00 PM 103 Michigan +6 -120 104 Utah -6 -120

Counting down the days.

 

[LAUNCH]

http://michigan.247sports.com/Bolt/Watch-Devin-Funchess-shows-off-impressive-vertical--35672165

Video shows him getting his chin near rim. If he fails in the NFL it won't be due to a lack of athleticism.

 

[BigJohn]

Rivalry aside, I've said since he's been at Michigan that he is the best athlete UM's had since Woodson.

 

[Keerock]

Rivalry aside, I've said since he's been at Michigan that he is the best athlete UM's had since Woodson.

Yep. And his 'failure' at UM wasn't due to a lack of athleticism.

 

[BigJohn]

Rivalry aside, I've said since he's been at Michigan that he is the best athlete UM's had since Woodson.

Yep. And his 'failure' at UM wasn't due to a lack of athleticism.

One of the most under-utilized kids I've seen in a long time.

 

[derek245583]

Rivalry aside, I've said since he's been at Michigan that he is the best athlete UM's had since Woodson.

Yep. And his 'failure' at UM wasn't due to a lack of athleticism.

One of the most under-utilized kids I've seen in a long time.

Kid is lazy imo

He is very athletic though that is for sure

 

[Keerock]

Rivalry aside, I've said since he's been at Michigan that he is the best athlete UM's had since Woodson.

Yep. And his 'failure' at UM wasn't due to a lack of athleticism.

One of the most under-utilized kids I've seen in a long time.

Kid is lazy imo

He is very athletic though that is for sure

Yup.

 

[The Commish]

I can't imagine what he'd do if he were actually pushed by the coaching staff. Pretty sad if one thinks about it.

 

[LAUNCH]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6J_-_wCQAIvCnX.jpg

What are you wearing "Jim from Michigan"?

"Uhhh Khakis"

 

[LAUNCH]

http://www.mgoblue.com/collegesportslive/?media=488636

Video of Winston and Petty. They liked the facilities/Harbaugh a lot.

 

[The Commish]

Ouch

jamie mac ‏@justcoverblog 21m21 minutes ago
Funchess says team needs disciplne. Clark cant stay out of trouble before the OSU game. Hoke was a worse 'player's coach' than Wade Phillips

Details

 

[MAC_32]

http://www.mgoblue.com/collegesportslive/?media=488636

Video of Winston and Petty. They liked the facilities/Harbaugh a lot.

this is going to pay major dividends 11 1/2 months from now.

 

[The Commish]

http://www.mgoblue.com/collegesportslive/?media=488636

Video of Winston and Petty. They liked the facilities/Harbaugh a lot.

this is going to pay major dividends 11 1/2 months from now.

Hope so....Jameis looks like he's put on a few lbs

More than anything, I want to see what coach can do with Shane.

 

[The Commish]

2015 Spring Roster

 

[Bobcat10]

Finotti...nice get here. Pretty big leap for him, but will help gain much needed traction in NE Ohio which is an important angle to the hire.

 

[Keerock]

Hewlett tore his achilles in practice

 

[The Commish]

Hewlett tore his achilles in practice

Who?

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Hewlett tore his achilles in practice

Who?

Hewlett

 

[Keerock]

Hewlett tore his achilles in practice

Who?

Hewlett

My best friend's son. Walk on sophomore.

 

[Da Guru]

Hewlett tore his achilles in practice

Who?

Hewlett

My best friend's son. Walk on sophomore.

Sad thing about big time programs is that nobody cares about these kind of kids or stories but the families and friends. Only saw him play twice but thought he was outstanding.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Hewlett tore his achilles in practice

Who?

Hewlett

My best friend's son. Walk on sophomore.

Not a 5-star..move on...

ETA: Sorry to hear Kee...

 

[The Commish]

Hewlett tore his achilles in practice

Who?

Hewlett

My best friend's son. Walk on sophomore.

Sorry to hear Kee...wasn't trying to be a jerk FWIW. I remembered what I thought was a Hewitt that was a walk on last spring. Turns out I had the name wrong.

 

[LAUNCH]

Former Iowa QB Jake Rudock got his clearance from the BIG10 to transfer without losing any eligibility and will be joining Michigan.

 

[The Commish]

Former Iowa QB Jake Rudock got his clearance from the BIG10 to transfer without losing any eligibility and will be joining Michigan.

That's like 15 QBs that will be on the roster.

Harbaugh's apparently ruffling feathers in the SEC with his "satellite camping" approach. I don't know what it is, but I like it

 

[derek245583]

Former Iowa QB Jake Rudock got his clearance from the BIG10 to transfer without losing any eligibility and will be joining Michigan.

That's like 15 QBs that will be on the roster.

Harbaugh's apparently ruffling feathers in the SEC with his "satellite camping" approach. I don't know what it is, but I like it

You cannot legally host a camp in your non home state. I think you MIGHT be able to host one in your neihboring state.

From what I understand, he has some little dinky school like Ga State host the camp and Michigan is the co hoster lol

 

[Sabertooth]

Former Iowa QB Jake Rudock got his clearance from the BIG10 to transfer without losing any eligibility and will be joining Michigan.

That's like 15 QBs that will be on the roster.

Harbaugh's apparently ruffling feathers in the SEC with his "satellite camping" approach. I don't know what it is, but I like it

You cannot legally host a camp in your non home state. I think you MIGHT be able to host one in your neihboring state.

From what I understand, he has some little dinky school like Ga State host the camp and Michigan is the co hoster lol

Innovation

 

[The Commish]

Former Iowa QB Jake Rudock got his clearance from the BIG10 to transfer without losing any eligibility and will be joining Michigan.

That's like 15 QBs that will be on the roster.

Harbaugh's apparently ruffling feathers in the SEC with his "satellite camping" approach. I don't know what it is, but I like it

You cannot legally host a camp in your non home state. I think you MIGHT be able to host one in your neihboring state.

From what I understand, he has some little dinky school like Ga State host the camp and Michigan is the co hoster lol

Was reading that the SEC has a rule that a coach can't do this outside of 50 miles of his school. Doesn't appear that the other conferences have that. Wonder why they have that rule and I wonder why the SEC coaches are focused on the NCAA doing something rather than their conference.

 

[The Commish]

And so it begins.....QB and LB commits this weekend.

 

[derek245583]

Spring game was fun

Offense is way behind as expected

DB depth is a concern but the starters are solid and we were missing the Lyons (transfer)

Starting DL is awesome

WR can't catch

Really wanted to see Ty Isaac and Brian cole but didn't get to.

Shane is gonna backup ruddock imo

 

[The Commish]

So, a total of three signings over the weekend. QB, RB and LB. I don't know what will come of Shane but he SEEMS to be the perfect illustration of the filtration of a football player as they move from one level to the next.

 

[The Commish]

I was wondering how the 15 QB approach was going to affect recruiting. Love this kid's answer:

“I know there are a bunch of quarterbacks there right now, but that doesn’t stop me. You’re just going to have to go there and you’re going to have to compete and earn a spot. That’s fine with me. I love to compete. Also at the same time, it is a special opportunity to play for Coach Harbaugh. I think things are going to really start going in the right direction and I really want to be a part of it. I loved it there. The atmosphere was awesome. The fans are awesome as well.”