Official 2022 college football thread: its conference realignment season. (2 Viewers)

[whoknew]

This Kincaid kid for Utah is pretty sweet.

 

[whoknew]

UTES!

 

[General Malaise]

So......does Game Day go to Oregon this week for the UCLA/Oregon tilt?

 

[General Malaise]

Ugh. What an awful performance all around. Freeman has some major decisions to make ASAP. Rees must go tomorrow or Freeman needs to go with him.

Edit : Forgot a big one - this team is soft. Freeman is soft. He must fix that or he MUST go.

Notre Dame lost to a better team and a better coach. It happens.

 

[Schmeabs]

So......does Game Day go to Oregon this week for the UCLA/Oregon tilt?

Yes, they already announced it

 

[General Malaise]

Pac 12 is going to get a playoff team. And it's going to be the winner of UCLA/Oregon. Bet.

 

[General Malaise]

So......does Game Day go to Oregon this week for the UCLA/Oregon tilt?

Yes, they already announced it

You going?

 

[Jayded]

Ugh. What an awful performance all around. Freeman has some major decisions to make ASAP. Rees must go tomorrow or Freeman needs to go with him.

Edit : Forgot a big one - this team is soft. Freeman is soft. He must fix that or he MUST go.

Notre Dame lost to a better team and a better coach. It happens.

Stanford is not the better team; entering 1-4 with the one win against Colgate and a 12 game FBS losing streak. They were a 17 point underdog and it’s also the same season losing to a 21 point underdog in Marshall for the same reasons - offense & softness.

Freeman needs to hold Rees accountable. He also needs to stop being their friend and be their coach. The whole team needs an attitude adjustment starting tomorrow.

 

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Conference refs are the worst. I seriously don’t understand why we cannot have NCAA refs. Too much chance for favoritism with conference affiliation.

Agreed…Bama is typically got the worst penalty margin in the conference and also country…120+…there is no doubt SEC refs favor Bama opponents.

Damn bammers always whining about the refs. I caught videos of blatant backfield holds and sent them to a Bammer buddy after he sent me a term paper of tears.

We spotted you a free TD on the goal line and you STILL blew it.

Saban is a senior citizen and years of coach Poach is rearing its head in the form of poor discipline.

Good game.
Take the L.
We'll see ya again in Atlanta if we can get past Georgia (unlikely) and you can get past Ole Piss (unlikely).

 

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Remember when SEC fan was always complaining about no defense in other conferences?

Not sure who you are but I'm confident your team could totally stop the Tennessee offense.

totally

 

[Moe.]

What a day. We have had some duds recently, we all deserved this.

 

[Schmeabs]

So......does Game Day go to Oregon this week for the UCLA/Oregon tilt?

Yes, they already announced it

You going?

I am not planning to go to Gameday but I will definately be at the game. Are you going?

 

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Vols and Bama both likely have an L coming in Georgia/Mississipi so all talk of SEC Champ showdowns are silly.

 

[General Malaise]

So......does Game Day go to Oregon this week for the UCLA/Oregon tilt?

Yes, they already announced it

You going?

I am not planning to go to Gameday but I will definately be at the game. Are you going?

Yessir! Will be rolling down I5 bright and early.

 

[General Malaise]

Ugh. What an awful performance all around. Freeman has some major decisions to make ASAP. Rees must go tomorrow or Freeman needs to go with him.

Edit : Forgot a big one - this team is soft. Freeman is soft. He must fix that or he MUST go.

Notre Dame lost to a better team and a better coach. It happens.

Stanford is not the better team; entering 1-4 with the one win against Colgate and a 12 game FBS losing streak. They were a 17 point underdog and it’s also the same season losing to a 21 point underdog in Marshall for the same reasons - offense & softness.

Freeman needs to hold Rees accountable. He also needs to stop being their friend and be their coach. The whole team needs an attitude adjustment starting tomorrow.

Did Stanford have the better QB yesterday? Clearly, yes.

Did Stanford have the better coach yesterday? Also, clearly, yes.

Better defense? Also, yes.


This is David Shaw 101. He takes marginal talent as a lump of clay and works on it like Demi Moore until it's pottery. There is no shame in losing to him in October. This is just what he does. It's maddening, he's gotten the best of Oregon over the years and disrupted many Pac12 teams' seasons in the process of making his middling Stanford teams better. Maybe Notre Dame should hire him.

 

[AAABatteries]

That Bama-Vols game was fantastic - Bama with just too many mistakes (penalties) but still with a chance to win. Is 11 for UT that good or Bama secondary make him look better than he is?

 

[NutterButter]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

 

[General Malaise]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

Agree that coaching Stanford is one of the hardest jobs in CFB to be steadily competitive. And, as you say, it's gotten harder. What Shaw did there for years was remarkable.

Stanford, Vandy, NW, Duke, the service academies are all tough to win at. All except Vanderbilt have done fairly well, at least in spurts.

 

[Summer Wheat]

Hooker has good poise, pocket presence, mobility, size, seems accurate. Why isn't he ranked high on draft boards?

Hooker made it up to at least the second rd already.

 

[Summer Wheat]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

ND coach has to be on the hot seat already. Was reading on a ND forum and fans are comparing him to Gerry Faust who I guess used to be the HC there.

 

[NutterButter]

At least it looks like the ND coach can recruit at the moment, but the question becomes if those recruits stay committed once they see the situation they're stepping into.

 

[gump]

That Bama-Vols game was fantastic - Bama with just too many mistakes (penalties) but still with a chance to win. Is 11 for UT that good or Bama secondary make him look better than he is?

I think most of his big plays were vs a Safety…Heupel out-schemed Golding big time.

 

[whoknew]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

Agree that coaching Stanford is one of the hardest jobs in CFB to be steadily competitive. And, as you say, it's gotten harder. What Shaw did there for years was remarkable.

Stanford, Vandy, NW, Duke, the service academies are all tough to win at. All except Vanderbilt have done fairly well, at least in spurts.

So how much of what Shaw did early in his career should be credited to what Harbaugh set up? I'm honestly not trying to knock Shaw down or blow smoke up Harbaugh's ***. But Shaw's best years were the four or five right after Harbaugh. And he hasn't been able to maintain that.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

So how much of what Shaw did early in his career should be credited to what Harbaugh set up? I'm honestly not trying to knock Shaw down or blow smoke up Harbaugh's ***. But Shaw's best years were the four or five right after Harbaugh. And he hasn't been able to maintain that.

I honestly don't know. Harbaugh deserves a ton of credit, too.

 

[culdeus]

I didn't think there would be a year sec would get three teams in and none of them Bama but here we are.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

USC fans are just starting to see what a LR team will be year in and year out. Great offensive team that hides a lot of defensive woes. Win a lot of games but never truly a top tier team. GL

 

[dickey moe]

Vols goalpost carried out of stadium plus some quality $#!& talking between Tennessee and Alabama fans.

 

[heckmanm]

Just wrap the QBs up. If a QB is wrapped the whistle blows. At least in the NFL starting QBs are waaaaaay to valuable to the product being offered to pretend like we are going to allow them to keep continue getting hit. In college there isn’t as much of a drop off to the backup because all the players are terrible.

Since you mentioned NFL, I'm old enough to remember "in the grasp" rule in the. Everybody HAAAAATED it IIRC but it might be better than the inconsistent roughing rules we see now.

 

[WDIK2]

Vols goalpost carried out of stadium plus some quality $#!& talking between Tennessee and Alabama fans.

At least part of them made it into the river. Link

 

[Tom Servo]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

ND coach has to be on the hot seat already. Was reading on a ND forum and fans are comparing him to Gerry Faust who I guess used to be the HC there.

Those were ND’s best years IMO.

 

[gump]

I didn't think there would be a year sec would get three teams in and none of them Bama but here we are.

November’s looking like a hell of a month in the SEC…

 

[Tom Servo]

Also gonna say those Utah helmets last night were The loss of two of their players is a tragedy.

 

[Desert_Power]

Also gonna say those Utah helmets last night were The loss of two of their players is a tragedy.

Two players with the same number right? Hell of a tribute.

 

[AAABatteries]

I didn't think there would be a year sec would get three teams in and none of them Bama but here we are.

I don’t think we know how good Mississippi is yet - their last five games will probably be their five hardest opponents - at worst 5 of the 6 hardest.

 

[culdeus]

Someone fact check this but I can't find a single instance where Oregon played a home game vs a pac10 opponent while both were top 10 teams. I've been known to skim before so fair warning. I see the Michigan game in 2014

 

[facook]

Hooker has good poise, pocket presence, mobility, size, seems accurate. Why isn't he ranked high on draft boards?

Hooker made it up to at least the second rd already.

He will be 25 by the time the combine hits. Wonder if that hurts him?

 

[Summer Wheat]

Hooker has good poise, pocket presence, mobility, size, seems accurate. Why isn't he ranked high on draft boards?

Hooker made it up to at least the second rd already.

He will be 25 by the time the combine hits. Wonder if that hurts him?

Maybe a little, but only takes one team to like him. Right now he is ranked as the #6 QB coming out. That usually means a 4th rounder or so.

 

[Schmeabs]

Someone fact check this but I can't find a single instance where Oregon played a home game vs a pac10 opponent while both were top 10 teams. I've been known to skim before so fair warning. I see the Michigan game in 2014

Plenty of times.
2007 Cal ranked # 6 at Oregon ranked #11 (just outside top 10)
2007 Arizona State ranked #6 at Oregon ranked # 4
2009 USC ranked # 4 at Oregon ranked # 10
2010 Stanford ranked # 9 at Oregon ranked # 4
2013 UCLA ranked #13 (just outside) at Oregon ranked # 2
2014 Michigan State ranked # 7 at Oregon ranked # 3

 

[General Malaise]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

Agree that coaching Stanford is one of the hardest jobs in CFB to be steadily competitive. And, as you say, it's gotten harder. What Shaw did there for years was remarkable.

Stanford, Vandy, NW, Duke, the service academies are all tough to win at. All except Vanderbilt have done fairly well, at least in spurts.

So how much of what Shaw did early in his career should be credited to what Harbaugh set up? I'm honestly not trying to knock Shaw down or blow smoke up Harbaugh's ***. But Shaw's best years were the four or five right after Harbaugh. And he hasn't been able to maintain that.

Maybe some credit goes to Harbaugh, but Shaw did win the Rose Bowl in 2015, long after Harbaugh left. Then he went 10-3, 9-5, 9-4 and then the wheels fell off.

The thing is, unlike Notre Dame (another school with academic standards limit recruiting and transfer portals) where football is reverential, Stanford views football as a casual hobby. The fans don't pack the stadium, winning isn't everything and David Shaw is probably as safe as any coach in the country not named Nick Saban. He want to Stanford, played at Stanford, his dad coached at Stanford, he's not going anywhere unless he wants to. They aren't going to throw money at the team to make it better, even though they certainly could with that pile of money they sit upon. They also aren't going to bend the rules for football players, so when they land a recruit, they really have to hit a home run and convince the kid that a Stanford education is more important than a career in the NFL. Not very many 17 year old kids are going to buy that, so the job is incredibly difficult. And I don't know many football coaches that want to tackle it. Shaw is an outlier.

 

[Tom Servo]

Tennessee fans selling the grass from Neyland Stadium.

 

[FairWarning]

Anybody know why Penn state wouldn’t have brought their band? It’s a top-10 matchup


Btw I’m freezing to death!

I notice this more and more, it’s probably a combo of cost and Michigan pricing this game as a premium game. I imaging the FV was $150 or so. The Penn St tix were shoved up in the very upper corner of the end zone.

 

[FairWarning]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

Agree that coaching Stanford is one of the hardest jobs in CFB to be steadily competitive. And, as you say, it's gotten harder. What Shaw did there for years was remarkable.

Stanford, Vandy, NW, Duke, the service academies are all tough to win at. All except Vanderbilt have done fairly well, at least in spurts.

So how much of what Shaw did early in his career should be credited to what Harbaugh set up? I'm honestly not trying to knock Shaw down or blow smoke up Harbaugh's ***. But Shaw's best years were the four or five right after Harbaugh. And he hasn't been able to maintain that.

Maybe some credit goes to Harbaugh, but Shaw did win the Rose Bowl in 2015, long after Harbaugh left. Then he went 10-3, 9-5, 9-4 and then the wheels fell off.

The thing is, unlike Notre Dame (another school with academic standards limit recruiting and transfer portals) where football is reverential, Stanford views football as a casual hobby. The fans don't pack the stadium, winning isn't everything and David Shaw is probably as safe as any coach in the country not named Nick Saban. He want to Stanford, played at Stanford, his dad coached at Stanford, he's not going anywhere unless he wants to. They aren't going to throw money at the team to make it better, even though they certainly could with that pile of money they sit upon. They also aren't going to bend the rules for football players, so when they land a recruit, they really have to hit a home run and convince the kid that a Stanford education is more important than a career in the NFL. Not very many 17 year old kids are going to buy that, so the job is incredibly difficult. And I don't know many football coaches that want to tackle it. Shaw is an outlier.

The only transfers ND takes are kids who graduated and are in grad school. They probably missed a year with an injury. So they have that year of eligibility left. They certainly lose more than they get.

 

[General Malaise]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

Agree that coaching Stanford is one of the hardest jobs in CFB to be steadily competitive. And, as you say, it's gotten harder. What Shaw did there for years was remarkable.

Stanford, Vandy, NW, Duke, the service academies are all tough to win at. All except Vanderbilt have done fairly well, at least in spurts.

So how much of what Shaw did early in his career should be credited to what Harbaugh set up? I'm honestly not trying to knock Shaw down or blow smoke up Harbaugh's ***. But Shaw's best years were the four or five right after Harbaugh. And he hasn't been able to maintain that.

Maybe some credit goes to Harbaugh, but Shaw did win the Rose Bowl in 2015, long after Harbaugh left. Then he went 10-3, 9-5, 9-4 and then the wheels fell off.

The thing is, unlike Notre Dame (another school with academic standards limit recruiting and transfer portals) where football is reverential, Stanford views football as a casual hobby. The fans don't pack the stadium, winning isn't everything and David Shaw is probably as safe as any coach in the country not named Nick Saban. He want to Stanford, played at Stanford, his dad coached at Stanford, he's not going anywhere unless he wants to. They aren't going to throw money at the team to make it better, even though they certainly could with that pile of money they sit upon. They also aren't going to bend the rules for football players, so when they land a recruit, they really have to hit a home run and convince the kid that a Stanford education is more important than a career in the NFL. Not very many 17 year old kids are going to buy that, so the job is incredibly difficult. And I don't know many football coaches that want to tackle it. Shaw is an outlier.

The only transfers ND takes are kids who graduated and are in grad school. They probably missed a year with an injury. So they have that year of eligibility left. They certainly lose more than they get.

I think it's really impressive what Notre Dame has been able to accomplish given their constraints. Plus, how do you convince a kid to go to South Bend, Indiana? At least Palo Alto is warm, near a giant, vibrant city and the water.

 

[FairWarning]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

Agree that coaching Stanford is one of the hardest jobs in CFB to be steadily competitive. And, as you say, it's gotten harder. What Shaw did there for years was remarkable.

Stanford, Vandy, NW, Duke, the service academies are all tough to win at. All except Vanderbilt have done fairly well, at least in spurts.

So how much of what Shaw did early in his career should be credited to what Harbaugh set up? I'm honestly not trying to knock Shaw down or blow smoke up Harbaugh's ***. But Shaw's best years were the four or five right after Harbaugh. And he hasn't been able to maintain that.

Maybe some credit goes to Harbaugh, but Shaw did win the Rose Bowl in 2015, long after Harbaugh left. Then he went 10-3, 9-5, 9-4 and then the wheels fell off.

The thing is, unlike Notre Dame (another school with academic standards limit recruiting and transfer portals) where football is reverential, Stanford views football as a casual hobby. The fans don't pack the stadium, winning isn't everything and David Shaw is probably as safe as any coach in the country not named Nick Saban. He want to Stanford, played at Stanford, his dad coached at Stanford, he's not going anywhere unless he wants to. They aren't going to throw money at the team to make it better, even though they certainly could with that pile of money they sit upon. They also aren't going to bend the rules for football players, so when they land a recruit, they really have to hit a home run and convince the kid that a Stanford education is more important than a career in the NFL. Not very many 17 year old kids are going to buy that, so the job is incredibly difficult. And I don't know many football coaches that want to tackle it. Shaw is an outlier.

The only transfers ND takes are kids who graduated and are in grad school. They probably missed a year with an injury. So they have that year of eligibility left. They certainly lose more than they get.

I think it's really impressive what Notre Dame has been able to accomplish given their constraints. Plus, how do you convince a kid to go to South Bend, Indiana? At least Palo Alto is warm, near a giant, vibrant city and the water.

Weather days like today, its a tough sell. Their biggest advantage is by being independent, they can play anywhere.

 

[Tom Servo]

Bama WR strikes UT fan in the face.

 

[culdeus]

I didn't realize how bad Stanford has been these last 4 years.

I don't think you can take too much from the Covid years, but yeah, it's been a dreadful run for a once robust program. Shaw is making the most of it, but they are crippled in that they cannot use the transfer portal AND - and this is huge - their grad students aren't getting into grad school so THEY have to transfer out. No rules bending for football players at Stanford. Good luck with that.

Agree that coaching Stanford is one of the hardest jobs in CFB to be steadily competitive. And, as you say, it's gotten harder. What Shaw did there for years was remarkable.

Stanford, Vandy, NW, Duke, the service academies are all tough to win at. All except Vanderbilt have done fairly well, at least in spurts.

So how much of what Shaw did early in his career should be credited to what Harbaugh set up? I'm honestly not trying to knock Shaw down or blow smoke up Harbaugh's ***. But Shaw's best years were the four or five right after Harbaugh. And he hasn't been able to maintain that.

Maybe some credit goes to Harbaugh, but Shaw did win the Rose Bowl in 2015, long after Harbaugh left. Then he went 10-3, 9-5, 9-4 and then the wheels fell off.

The thing is, unlike Notre Dame (another school with academic standards limit recruiting and transfer portals) where football is reverential, Stanford views football as a casual hobby. The fans don't pack the stadium, winning isn't everything and David Shaw is probably as safe as any coach in the country not named Nick Saban. He want to Stanford, played at Stanford, his dad coached at Stanford, he's not going anywhere unless he wants to. They aren't going to throw money at the team to make it better, even though they certainly could with that pile of money they sit upon. They also aren't going to bend the rules for football players, so when they land a recruit, they really have to hit a home run and convince the kid that a Stanford education is more important than a career in the NFL. Not very many 17 year old kids are going to buy that, so the job is incredibly difficult. And I don't know many football coaches that want to tackle it. Shaw is an outlier.

The only transfers ND takes are kids who graduated and are in grad school. They probably missed a year with an injury. So they have that year of eligibility left. They certainly lose more than they get.

I think it's really impressive what Notre Dame has been able to accomplish given their constraints. Plus, how do you convince a kid to go to South Bend, Indiana? At least Palo Alto is warm, near a giant, vibrant city and the water.

That NBC contract played a role. Though I think they actually started to really suck when it went exclusive.

 

[Moe.]

Supposedly this is Saban’s last season.

https://twitter.com/graceandtony/status/1583601539331272704?s=46&t=as0k_j9H0weCqWe_dqf74w

 

[Moe.]

Ok nevermind that was fake

 

[culdeus]

Saban to Texas confirmed?