**OFFICIAL 2025 Draft Thread - Green Bay Opens The Door For Guests** (1 Viewer)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Guess question heading into tomorrow night is Sanders draft capital going to go the way of Will Levis or Malik Willis?

Yeah, I mean, how far could he fall? Could he fall out of the 2nd round and get Spencer Rattler type capital?

It would be a shock to see him drop lower than New Orleans at 40.

Cleveland at 33 (and 36) and Las Vegas at 37 are other possibilities.

color me skeptical on all 3 as landing spots

 

[travdogg]

I feel like teams overreact to guys who are currently hurt. Season doesn't start for 4.5 months. Guys like Will Johnson or Jihaad Campbell falling to round 2 is nuts.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Head coach Brian Daboll told reporters that Russell Wilson will be the Giants’ starter.
When asked about the team’s plan for Jaxson Dart in his rookie season, GM Joe Schoen said, “He can come in, sit behind a couple veteran quarterbacks and learn.” Schoen and Daboll entered the draft on the hot seat, reportedly with orders from ownership to find the team’s long-term quarterback. While Wilson will open the season as the starter, Dart could still find his way onto the field by season’s end.

 

[Dynasty]

eagles gonna

Eagles and Chiefs just made a trade. They're just showing off now.

What was the comp? Is this like a SB side bet that Veach owes?

eagles gave up a 5th (164th) to move up one spot

Chiefs gained 15.8 draft chart points. (worth and early/mid 6th rounder)

 

[menobrown]

Guess question heading into tomorrow night is Sanders draft capital going to go the way of Will Levis or Malik Willis?

Yeah, I mean, how far could he fall? Could he fall out of the 2nd round and get Spencer Rattler type capital?

It would be a shock to see him drop lower than New Orleans at 40.

Cleveland at 33 (and 36) and Las Vegas at 37 are other possibilities.

He may go well before 40 but I sure would not shocked if New Orleans passed on him at 40. Don't get a sense by how strongly affirmative the reports they would not be picking him at 9 they are fans.

 

[GregR]

eagles gonna

Eagles and Chiefs just made a trade. They're just showing off now.

What was the comp? Is this like a SB side bet that Veach owes?

eagles gave up a 5th (164th) to move up one spot

I'll predict they have a specific offensive lineman targeted and don't want the Chiefs to take him.

Or Houston might have been looking to jump to KC's pick to get ahead of Philly, and Philly offered more.

Edit to add: Or not. But, same reasoning, some other team.

 

[dickey moe]

Weird trade.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Mina Kimes is beside herself.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Good lord, the Eagles always seem to get that guy who drops for some unexpected reason.

 

[fatness]

Campbell it is.

 

[travdogg]

Gigantic steal for Philly. He's actually a very similar player to Baun.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It’s just unbelievable. Every year.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Gigantic steal for Philly. He's actually a very similar player to Baun.

Dean in the last year of his deal, plus, I don't think he's going to back until after Thanksgiving.

Howie going against the norm again. When was the last time the Eagles took a LB in the 1st.

Hoping for Xavier Watts in the 2nd.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Philly can still find OL in the 2nd 3rd and 4th rounds coming up
Smart move for a team that doesn't have many open starting positions
Excellent selection

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

That Eagles defense. Wow

 

[Buckna]

Maybe the Chiefs truly are targeting Henderson and knew Philly obviously wasn't taking him with Barkley in the fold?

 

[fruity pebbles]

The richer just got rich

 

[Ministry of Pain]

"The Richer Just Got Rich"
-Jihaad Campbell, Draft '25

 

[Donnybrook]

3 months ago Will Johnson was routinely mocked top 15.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Maybe the Chiefs truly are targeting Henderson and knew Philly obviously wasn't taking him with Barkley in the fold?

Henderson to the Chiefs would cause Pacheco truthers to commit sepukku en masse.

 

[Man In The Box]

If a time machine is ever invented one of my first stops is going back to childhood picking a team that cleans up every year at the end of the first round. Must be nice.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What is up with Schefter trying to copy Joe Thomas?
Please stop with this look

 

[menobrown]

3 months ago Will Johnson was routinely mocked top 15.

His medicals must be a major issue.

 

[travdogg]

I like how the NFL let the Eagles and Chiefs get top 10 talents who just happen to be hurt.

 

[menobrown]

Texans now with a pair of 2nd round picks and three 3rd round picks. Could move back up.

Kind of wish we traded with ATL

Right, it's like ATL paid more for a later pick then the Giants paid for a higher pick to get a QB.

I kind of agree. Though I think the difference between 34 which Houston got, and pick 46 which LA got, might have really dropped a tier in terms of O-line available.

But I'd have been willing to make that trade then try to move back up, so yeah.

Did they move back to far?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Fun draft, fellas. Always a good time in the SP with y’all for these.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Simmons + a 5th.

Not bad if you can pull it off.

 

[travdogg]

3 months ago Will Johnson was routinely mocked top 15.

His medicals must be a major issue.

Buffalo passing is a huge tell, he's their exact type.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Conerly is a solid pick.

Apparently the Washington front office saw the same thing we fans saw all last year --- "that o-line is gonna get Daniels killed". With Tunsil at LT, I guess Conerly will battle Coleman for the RT spot, and Wylie will move to G or get cut.

Tunesil is starting to get long in the tooth, and I don't believe they have extended him after trading for him and he'll want to set the market. This is a good longterm pick that gives them flexibility to possibly let Tunesil walk next year or develop this guy or use him as depth.

No no no. That crazy Tunesil draft with the weed video was like 3 years ago. There is no way that guy is "old" now, because what would that say about my age?

 

[Buckna]

Maybe the Chiefs truly are targeting Henderson and knew Philly obviously wasn't taking him with Barkley in the fold?

Henderson to the Chiefs would cause Pacheco truthers to commit sepukku en masse.

I didn't think it was likely but one of the few scenario's that made that trade make sense. Philly needed o'line too so a bit of a risk there for KC, love that they went with Simmons

 

[need2know]

Fky eagles fly

 

[GregR]

Texans now with a pair of 2nd round picks and three 3rd round picks. Could move back up.

Kind of wish we traded with ATL

Right, it's like ATL paid more for a later pick then the Giants paid for a higher pick to get a QB.

I kind of agree. Though I think the difference between 34 which Houston got, and pick 46 which LA got, might have really dropped a tier in terms of O-line available.

But I'd have been willing to make that trade then try to move back up, so yeah.

Did they move back to far?

To me, yes. Simmons was the last O-line in the top tiers I thought. If I was Houston I'd have moved back up to try to get him. But, they might have their eye on someone else that they think is just as good, dunno. Unfortunately, O Line is the one area that Nick Casserio hasn't done particularly well at as GM so far.

That said I know very little about the remaining linemen, as was focused on who was likely there at 25. ESPN has a guard (Savaiinaea) who was ahead of some taken already who is still there.

 

[JohnnyU]

Still don't get drafting a RB that high.

Ashton is special. Think LaDainian Tomlinson.

Lofty comp. There was only one Tomlinson.

ESPN comp'd him to Emmitt, an even loftier comp.

Smith would have been mediocre if not for that unreal OL. On any other team he’s not HOFer.

 

[fatness]

What is up with Schefter trying to copy Joe Thomas?
Please stop with this look

I mis-read this as a reply to your post:

His medicals must be a major issue.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Titans were offered the No 3 pick from the Giants and their '26 1st rd pick plus some other picks and they passed on that offer, remarkable

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Still don't get drafting a RB that high.

Ashton is special. Think LaDainian Tomlinson.

Lofty comp. There was only one Tomlinson.

ESPN comp'd him to Emmitt, an even loftier comp.

Smith would have been mediocre if not for that unreal OL. On any other team he’s not HOFer.

thats been an interesting debate over the years.

I don’t necessarily disagree, but he was a very, very talented RB. He had great vision, a good jump cut, could catch the ball, and had power. That plus incredible durability and drive. Dude was relentless.

I’ve come around a bit on whether he’d be HOF without the monstrous OL. Not every hole was the size of a Mack truck. Just a lot of them.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Titans were offered the No 3 pick from the Giants and their '26 1st rd pick plus some other picks and they passed on that offer, remarkable

They probably looked at that trade, then looked at their QB room, and made the pretty easy call.

 

[BassNBrew]

Jags are a team I see as trading down

Jax Jags HOT for Travis Hunter, rumors online they are trying to trade up for him

You're like those youtube stock guys who say the market is going to crash every day until they are right. It's cool bumping a great call, but not so cool when you picked both sides.

 

[GregR]

Titans were offered the No 3 pick from the Giants and their '26 1st rd pick plus some other picks and they passed on that offer, remarkable

They probably looked at that trade, then looked at their QB room, and made the pretty easy call.

I think the Titans drafted what will become the 3rd best QB in the AFC South. Assuming the Colts don't sign a decent veteran.

Should have taken the trade.

 

[travdogg]

Round 1 I think Starks was the best value, especially given where he went and I think Dart was probably the worst, he's super raw, and they'll have a new GM/HC next year, who will likely want their own QB.

Browns/Jags trade will be very interesting to track. I think Travis Hunter is the best non-QB to come out of college football in maybe a decade, so I totally get moving up for him, very curious to see what the Browns get at #36.

Lots of really good players fell for a lot of reasons. I think Mike Green (off-field) is the 2nd best EDGE in this class, I think Donovan Ezeiruaku (size I assume) is the 2nd best pass rusher in his class, Will Johnson (health) is a top-4 DB.

Lots of talent left at DB, RB, WR, and EDGE. Also some QB, who some people think should have gone tonight I guess.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Steve Smith rocking the Dracula look. lol

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Titans were offered the No 3 pick from the Giants and their '26 1st rd pick plus some other picks and they passed on that offer, remarkable

They probably looked at that trade, then looked at their QB room, and made the pretty easy call.

I think the Titans drafted what will become the 3rd best QB in the AFC South. Assuming the Colts don't sign a decent veteran.

Should have taken the trade.

Oh sure.

I’m just saying I get it.

 

[travdogg]

Titans were offered the No 3 pick from the Giants and their '26 1st rd pick plus some other picks and they passed on that offer, remarkable

I like Ward, but yeah, that would have been an accept from me.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Jags are a team I see as trading down

Jax Jags HOT for Travis Hunter, rumors online they are trying to trade up for him

You're like those youtube stock guys who say the market is going to crash every day until they are right. It's cool bumping a great call, but not so cool when you picked both sides.

The rumor mill was changing by the minute, I simply posted what was being funneled heavy about the internet
I didn't mention a lot of teams besides Jax being involved in numerous trades, I didn't just throw 32 darts but whatever makes you feel better

Jaguars and Explosive were the words linked earlier this afternoon, many thought they might trade down but then that changed more to them trading up for Hunter

 

[BassNBrew]

I like the jags move. They got two elite players, no way the Browns pick two elite players.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Round 1 I think Starks was the best value, especially given where he went and I think Dart was probably the worst, he's super raw, and they'll have a new GM/HC next year, who will likely want their own QB.

Browns/Jags trade will be very interesting to track. I think Travis Hunter is the best non-QB to come out of college football in maybe a decade, so I totally get moving up for him, very curious to see what the Browns get at #36.

Lots of really good players fell for a lot of reasons. I think Mike Green (off-field) is the 2nd best EDGE in this class, I think Donovan Ezeiruaku (size I assume) is the 2nd best pass rusher in his class, Will Johnson (health) is a top-4 DB.

Lots of talent left at DB, RB, WR, and EDGE. Also some QB, who some people think should have gone tonight I guess.

Agree on Starks
Dart, they didn't give up that much to get him IMHO, it won't hurt them if he doesn't pan out

Browns A+, they added a 1st Rd pick for next season, smart move since its the Jags who occasionally pick in the top 5
Rams A+, did I read they got a 1st Rd pick from the Falcons to move down? That seems like a no brainer for a team picking later in the 1st.

You add a 1st you almost have to get a high score for the 1st Rd, overall draft score subject to change but tonight I like these moves the best

 

[GregR]

Texans now with a pair of 2nd round picks and three 3rd round picks. Could move back up.

Kind of wish we traded with ATL

Right, it's like ATL paid more for a later pick then the Giants paid for a higher pick to get a QB.

I kind of agree. Though I think the difference between 34 which Houston got, and pick 46 which LA got, might have really dropped a tier in terms of O-line available.

But I'd have been willing to make that trade then try to move back up, so yeah.

Hrm. Just used Chase's draft value chart, assuming that the draft order in 2026 is the same and future picks are worth full points. Which is what I normally do in this situation. The trades were pretty much equal by that criteria.

Houston gained 22.7 points (12.1 + 5.3 + 5.3) and gave up 14.1 points for a net 8.6 point improvement.

Rams gained 27.6 points (10.2 + 17.4 + 0) and gave up 19.1 points (13.9 + 5.2) for a net 8.5 point improvement.

That 3rd the Rams gave up offset a lot of the extra value from the 1st. Pretty much comes down to where you think Atlanta's 1st round pick is likely to end up, does it end up being a lot better than 15th where they picked this year. Vegas has them projecting for fewer wins I believe, so probably the better bet.

 

[GregR]

Round 1 I think Starks was the best value, especially given where he went and I think Dart was probably the worst, he's super raw, and they'll have a new GM/HC next year, who will likely want their own QB.

Browns/Jags trade will be very interesting to track. I think Travis Hunter is the best non-QB to come out of college football in maybe a decade, so I totally get moving up for him, very curious to see what the Browns get at #36.

Lots of really good players fell for a lot of reasons. I think Mike Green (off-field) is the 2nd best EDGE in this class, I think Donovan Ezeiruaku (size I assume) is the 2nd best pass rusher in his class, Will Johnson (health) is a top-4 DB.

Lots of talent left at DB, RB, WR, and EDGE. Also some QB, who some people think should have gone tonight I guess.

Agree on Starks
Dart, they didn't give up that much to get him IMHO, it won't hurt them if he doesn't pan out

Browns A+, they added a 1st Rd pick for next season, smart move since its the Jags who occasionally pick in the top 5
Rams A+, did I read they got a 1st Rd pick from the Falcons to move down? That seems like a no brainer for a team picking later in the 1st.

You add a 1st you almost have to get a high score for the 1st Rd, overall draft score subject to change but tonight I like these moves the best

Rams gave a 1st and 3rd and got 2nd, 7th and 2026 1st. See my post above, using this year's draft slots, it's equal value to the Houston-Giants trade. But better if the Cardinals do worse than the 15th pick next year.

 

[Buckna]

Texans now with a pair of 2nd round picks and three 3rd round picks. Could move back up.

Kind of wish we traded with ATL

Right, it's like ATL paid more for a later pick then the Giants paid for a higher pick to get a QB.

I kind of agree. Though I think the difference between 34 which Houston got, and pick 46 which LA got, might have really dropped a tier in terms of O-line available.

But I'd have been willing to make that trade then try to move back up, so yeah.

Did they move back to far?

To me, yes. Simmons was the last O-line in the top tiers I thought. If I was Houston I'd have moved back up to try to get him. But, they might have their eye on someone else that they think is just as good, dunno. Unfortunately, O Line is the one area that Nick Casserio hasn't done particularly well at as GM so far.

That said I know very little about the remaining linemen, as was focused on who was likely there at 25. ESPN has a guard (Savaiinaea) who was ahead of some taken already who is still there.

I'm hoping they weren't thinking that Simmons would drop, didn't see any mocks where he wasn't a first rounder and his floor was usually KC. Maybe they were hoping Conerly would still be there? The tackle options have thinned out unfortunately but lots of decent guard options out there like Savaiinaea or Donovan Jackson.

But who knows with Caserio, just as likely to be a "huh?" when they say the name tomorrow. There's some real nice value sitting there at that #34 pick, I wouldn't be opposed to Mike Green or Will Campbell instead of an o'lineman. Or even a trade down for someone who covets one of these guys who slipped out of the 1st.

 

[GregR]

Texans now with a pair of 2nd round picks and three 3rd round picks. Could move back up.

Kind of wish we traded with ATL

Right, it's like ATL paid more for a later pick then the Giants paid for a higher pick to get a QB.

I kind of agree. Though I think the difference between 34 which Houston got, and pick 46 which LA got, might have really dropped a tier in terms of O-line available.

But I'd have been willing to make that trade then try to move back up, so yeah.

Did they move back to far?

To me, yes. Simmons was the last O-line in the top tiers I thought. If I was Houston I'd have moved back up to try to get him. But, they might have their eye on someone else that they think is just as good, dunno. Unfortunately, O Line is the one area that Nick Casserio hasn't done particularly well at as GM so far.

That said I know very little about the remaining linemen, as was focused on who was likely there at 25. ESPN has a guard (Savaiinaea) who was ahead of some taken already who is still there.

I'm hoping they weren't thinking that Simmons would drop, didn't see any mocks where he wasn't a first rounder and his floor was usually KC. Maybe they were hoping Conerly would still be there? The tackle options have thinned out unfortunately but lots of decent guard options out there like Savaiinaea or Donovan Jackson.

But who knows with Caserio, just as likely to be a "huh?" when they say the name tomorrow. There's some real nice value sitting there at that #34 pick, I wouldn't be opposed to Mike Green or Will Campbell instead of an o'lineman. Or even a trade down for someone who covets one of these guys who slipped out of the 1st.

Yeah I was surprised Conerly went that early. He was actually the guy I was looking for as a fallback if Simmons was gone, so they might have thought the same.