I've played it twice. Right after a senior tour event. I don't remember a ton since it was long ago but I know I loved itTheIronSheik said:I can't find much in the way of pictures, but I here awesome things about it. Excited to play it, though.belljr said:That course is awesomeTheIronSheik said:Playing Hartefeld National next Friday. I heard its very tight and very hilly. Sounds fun.
Wait. What?For the mn people, I played in my college alumni tourney yesterday at bunker hills and my team to second. I still am struggling off the tee but spieth would have had nothing on me. I must have made eight total 15+ footers and one chip in from off the green. Love the greens out there.
I also really enjoy scrambles. I get the whole it's not within the spirit of the game thing but it's fun to be able to go low without worrying about a swing flaw.
Northern California GA? Played one of the great rounds of my life at their headquarters at Poppy Ridge. Forgot my shoes and it was an hour drive out there. It was flip flops, buy new shoes, or play bare foot. Shot 73 barefoot.NCGA Handicap Revision Day:
"Your Index is 15.8 as of 7/15/15.
Your Low Handicap Index is: 15.6"
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I moved from 8.5 to 8.6.NCGA Handicap Revision Day:
"Your Index is 15.8 as of 7/15/15.
Your Low Handicap Index is: 15.6"
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I don't think I know anyone who is so serious at golf that they don't enjoy a scramble. I just played one at Majestic last Friday...we shot -12 and still were 6 shots out of 1st.For the mn people, I played in my college alumni tourney yesterday at bunker hills and my team to second. I still am struggling off the tee but spieth would have had nothing on me. I must have made eight total 15+ footers and one chip in from off the green. Love the greens out there.
I also really enjoy scrambles. I get the whole it's not within the spirit of the game thing but it's fun to be able to go low without worrying about a swing flaw.
i've played the Blues at my local track a couple of times this year. even thought the yardage between Blue/White isn't that much different 6500 vs 6200, i've found that the course changes a bit. for example:Mine went down to 22.3. I'm consistently in the 90s from the white tees. Distance isn't really my problem - it's keeping the ball in play and the short game. I don't think my scores would significantly change if I went back to the blue tees.
I like to track my handicap as a measurement of if I'm getting better. I don't play in any tournaments and I'm happy to play from the whites with the rest of my friends. One of these days I want to try playing from the tips just to see how it goes. That's more of a weekday afternoon type of thing when I'm out by myself.
I've definitely noticed the difference on par-3s when I've played in scrambles from the blues. I'm not consistent with hitting the green off the tee anyway (36% last 20 rounds) and adding distance doesn't help.i've played the Blues at my local track a couple of times this year. even thought the yardage between Blue/White isn't that much different 6500 vs 6200, i've found that the course changes a bit. for example:Mine went down to 22.3. I'm consistently in the 90s from the white tees. Distance isn't really my problem - it's keeping the ball in play and the short game. I don't think my scores would significantly change if I went back to the blue tees.
I like to track my handicap as a measurement of if I'm getting better. I don't play in any tournaments and I'm happy to play from the whites with the rest of my friends. One of these days I want to try playing from the tips just to see how it goes. That's more of a weekday afternoon type of thing when I'm out by myself.
- where i might be pulling 8i on a 150 yard par 3, i've got to go 6i or even 5i from the Blues 25 yards back (depending on the wind)
- the tree in the middle of the fairway on a Par 5 i can clear w/ Driver from the Whites, i'm now punching out from underneath teeing off from the Blues
- the dogleg left Par 4 wherei can hit 4w or 4h to clear the corner, i've got to pull Driver to get to the same place
all of this combined adds 4 - 5 strokes per round....keeping me out of the 80s and into the low/mid 90s.
Played the same course again today and improved to 49/49 including back-to-back birdies. Still had trouble keeping it in play (lost 6 balls) but had six 1-putts. I had a lesson this morning where I worked on wedge shots and it helped a lot today. I'm still overswinging on my irons so I'll need to get out to the range to work on it this week.Took off work early yesterday and played a local muni course. Shot 47/46 and had no penalties for the first time ever - no sand, no lost balls, no OB, no water. Didn't have a score higher than 6 but couldn't hit greens.
This morning I played a course I'd never played before and it was like Jekyll & Hyde. Followed up an opening-hole 9 with three straight pars. Lost 8 balls. Hit 7 GIR and played those holes at +1 with one bogey and six pars (tied personal best). Ended up with a 104 because I couldn't keep the ball in play. I'm just inconsistent because I haven't been able to get out during the week after work to practice.
15-3. Wrong Ball a. Match PlayIf a player makes a stroke at a wrong ball, he loses the hole.Rules question.
Two different head to head matches going on in the same foursome. Straight match play. Player A playing B. C playing D.
B and C hit their second shots into the same trees on a par 5. B goes into the trees, finds a ball and hits it out. C can't find his ball, goes back to the previous spot, drops, and hits again. B goes up and finds that he hits C's ball. B's penalty is obviously loss of hole. What does C do? My thought was that it doesn't matter how C's ball was lost/abandoned. As soon as he goes back and drops, that ball is in play.
C can only play a ball from the spot where B played his ball if he identifies it within 5 minutes of searching for his lost ball and has NOT played another ball. Once he moved on to playing another ball, he gave his up as lost and it doesn't matter that they found out that player B played it.15-3. Wrong Ball a. Match PlayIf a player makes a stroke at a wrong ball, he loses the hole.Rules question.
Two different head to head matches going on in the same foursome. Straight match play. Player A playing B. C playing D.
B and C hit their second shots into the same trees on a par 5. B goes into the trees, finds a ball and hits it out. C can't find his ball, goes back to the previous spot, drops, and hits again. B goes up and finds that he hits C's ball. B's penalty is obviously loss of hole. What does C do? My thought was that it doesn't matter how C's ball was lost/abandoned. As soon as he goes back and drops, that ball is in play.
If the wrong ball belongs to another player, its owner must place a ball on the spot from which the wrong ball was first played.
If the player and opponent exchange balls during the play of a hole, the first to make a stroke at a wrong ball loses the hole; when this cannot be determined, the hole must be played out with the balls exchanged.
Exception: There is no penalty if a player makes a stroke at a wrong ball that is moving in water in a water hazard. Any strokes made at a wrong ball moving in water in a water hazard do not count in the player's score. The player must correct his mistake by playing the correct ball or by proceeding under the Rules.
i take that to mean that B loses the hole (played wrong ball), and C must play a ball from where B played it originally w/out penalty.
i could be wrong though.
https://usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Decision-27/#d27-6Rules question.
Two different head to head matches going on in the same foursome. Straight match play. Player A playing B. C playing D.
B and C hit their second shots into the same trees on a par 5. B goes into the trees, finds a ball and hits it out. C can't find his ball, goes back to the previous spot, drops, and hits again. B goes up and finds that he hits C's ball. B's penalty is obviously loss of hole. What does C do? My thought was that it doesn't matter how C's ball was lost/abandoned. As soon as he goes back and drops, that ball is in play.
What sort of backswing are you using here?I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
Depends on the distance really.What sort of backswing are you using here?I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
just curious: what is your 100 yard club?I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
"get taller" make sure you have upright posture with the 56 in your hand.Depends on the distance really.What sort of backswing are you using here?I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
It's a 50-60 yard club for me and I have nothing in between.i use it for everything within 60 yards. Full swing on 60,then I shorten back swing as I get closer but try to keep a full follow through.
Gap wedge.just curious: what is your 100 yard club?I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
any chance of going with a 52 and taking half-swings?Might be time to add another club with different loft to the bag. 56 is my highest lofted club. Maybe 60 will do the trick
any chance of going with a 52 and taking half-swings?Might be time to add another club with different loft to the bag. 56 is my highest lofted club. Maybe 60 will do the trick
My club with the big S on it is generally what I call my sand wedge. Its has a 52 degree loft on it. My set of PIng Zing 2 irons goes from the 3i down to the SW.You hit a 52 out of the sand? 52 is a gap, fwiw. 56 is SW. Though Taylor Made and some others started making them 54 so you would think you hit their SW farther than whatever you have now.
Wow. Didn't realize they had gone a full four degree with the SW. That's nuts.My club with the big S on it is generally what I call my sand wedge. Its has a 52 degree loft on it. My set of PIng Zing 2 irons goes from the 3i down to the SW.You hit a 52 out of the sand? 52 is a gap, fwiw. 56 is SW. Though Taylor Made and some others started making them 54 so you would think you hit their SW farther than whatever you have now.
EDIT: I understand where your confusion comes from. Club makers keep dropping the lofts on the clubs so they can claim they go farther. Well of course they do when you drop the loft. IMO club makers should be putting angles on the clubs, not random numbers that don't have any comparative meaning to other clubs. The gap wedge came into existence specifically to fill they hole the club makers created by shifting all the clubs up. Hence, "gap".
Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
+1 on the advice. I would much rather leave myself 100-110 out and take a full swing than 50-60 out and try to figure out how much of a swing to take. One day I'll get better at the intermediate shots but for now, I try to leave myself with shots I can make.Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
Golf digest had a study a couple of years ago that went against this line of thinking. According to that study, the closer "average" golfers were to the green, the better they scored. And the correlation increased with higher handicaps.Grahamburn said:Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.John Bender said:I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
I had someone awhile back put a 52 degree in my hand and have me put the ball in the ball of my stance and play a half-swing shot that's almost like a bump and run. Worked wonders.Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
Yeah anybody above like a 10 should always try to be closer to the hole and, usually, should always just hit their longest clubs off the tee.Golf digest had a study a couple of years ago that went against this line of thinking. According to that study, the closer "average" golfers were to the green, the better they scored. And the correlation increased with higher handicaps.Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
Not sure I agree with the study from my own experience, but the research in the article looked pretty solid.
If you have enough green to work with, this is absolutely the shot you want to play.I had someone awhile back put a 52 degree in my hand and have me put the ball in the ball of my stance and play a half-swing shot that's almost like a bump and run. Worked wonders.Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.I really need to learn to pitch and chip.
Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...
First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.
I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.
Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?
The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.
Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.