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TheIronSheik said:
belljr said:
TheIronSheik said:
Playing Hartefeld National next Friday. I heard its very tight and very hilly. Sounds fun.
That course is awesome
I can't find much in the way of pictures, but I here awesome things about it. Excited to play it, though.
I've played it twice. Right after a senior tour event. I don't remember a ton since it was long ago but I know I loved it

 
For the mn people, I played in my college alumni tourney yesterday at bunker hills and my team to second. I still am struggling off the tee but spieth would have had nothing on me. I must have made eight total 15+ footers and one chip in from off the green. Love the greens out there.

I also really enjoy scrambles. I get the whole it's not within the spirit of the game thing but it's fun to be able to go low without worrying about a swing flaw.

 
For the mn people, I played in my college alumni tourney yesterday at bunker hills and my team to second. I still am struggling off the tee but spieth would have had nothing on me. I must have made eight total 15+ footers and one chip in from off the green. Love the greens out there.

I also really enjoy scrambles. I get the whole it's not within the spirit of the game thing but it's fun to be able to go low without worrying about a swing flaw.
Wait. What? :confused:

 
5:55am shotgun tomorrow morning at Harborside. They are trying out a "morning meeting" event to play 18 and be back in the loop for work by 10:30am. Looking forward to teeing off as the sun rises over the course and the city. I'll try to grab some pics.

 
NCGA Handicap Revision Day:

"Your Index is 15.8 as of 7/15/15.

Your Low Handicap Index is: 15.6"

:dance:

 
NCGA Handicap Revision Day:

"Your Index is 15.8 as of 7/15/15.

Your Low Handicap Index is: 15.6"

:dance:
Northern California GA? Played one of the great rounds of my life at their headquarters at Poppy Ridge. Forgot my shoes and it was an hour drive out there. It was flip flops, buy new shoes, or play bare foot. Shot 73 barefoot.

 
For the mn people, I played in my college alumni tourney yesterday at bunker hills and my team to second. I still am struggling off the tee but spieth would have had nothing on me. I must have made eight total 15+ footers and one chip in from off the green. Love the greens out there.

I also really enjoy scrambles. I get the whole it's not within the spirit of the game thing but it's fun to be able to go low without worrying about a swing flaw.
I don't think I know anyone who is so serious at golf that they don't enjoy a scramble. I just played one at Majestic last Friday...we shot -12 and still were 6 shots out of 1st.

I haven't played Bunker for a while; but I do like the course. Index down to 5.8....too good to win anything 'net', too bad to win anything 'gross'!

 
my index was trending to 13.9 but luckily i put up a crappy score yesterday that kicked one of my good ones out of the last 20....

result....14.6

club championship on the 25th...

 
8.2 but haven't played in a long time.

My course was picked to host a 2017 US Open qualifying event so that's pretty cool

 
Mine went down to 22.3. I'm consistently in the 90s from the white tees. Distance isn't really my problem - it's keeping the ball in play and the short game. I don't think my scores would significantly change if I went back to the blue tees.

I like to track my handicap as a measurement of if I'm getting better. I don't play in any tournaments and I'm happy to play from the whites with the rest of my friends. One of these days I want to try playing from the tips just to see how it goes. That's more of a weekday afternoon type of thing when I'm out by myself.

 
Mine went down to 22.3. I'm consistently in the 90s from the white tees. Distance isn't really my problem - it's keeping the ball in play and the short game. I don't think my scores would significantly change if I went back to the blue tees.

I like to track my handicap as a measurement of if I'm getting better. I don't play in any tournaments and I'm happy to play from the whites with the rest of my friends. One of these days I want to try playing from the tips just to see how it goes. That's more of a weekday afternoon type of thing when I'm out by myself.
i've played the Blues at my local track a couple of times this year. even thought the yardage between Blue/White isn't that much different 6500 vs 6200, i've found that the course changes a bit. for example:

- where i might be pulling 8i on a 150 yard par 3, i've got to go 6i or even 5i from the Blues 25 yards back (depending on the wind)

- the tree in the middle of the fairway on a Par 5 i can clear w/ Driver from the Whites, i'm now punching out from underneath teeing off from the Blues

- the dogleg left Par 4 wherei can hit 4w or 4h to clear the corner, i've got to pull Driver to get to the same place

all of this combined adds 4 - 5 strokes per round....keeping me out of the 80s and into the low/mid 90s.

 
Mine went down to 22.3. I'm consistently in the 90s from the white tees. Distance isn't really my problem - it's keeping the ball in play and the short game. I don't think my scores would significantly change if I went back to the blue tees.

I like to track my handicap as a measurement of if I'm getting better. I don't play in any tournaments and I'm happy to play from the whites with the rest of my friends. One of these days I want to try playing from the tips just to see how it goes. That's more of a weekday afternoon type of thing when I'm out by myself.
i've played the Blues at my local track a couple of times this year. even thought the yardage between Blue/White isn't that much different 6500 vs 6200, i've found that the course changes a bit. for example:

- where i might be pulling 8i on a 150 yard par 3, i've got to go 6i or even 5i from the Blues 25 yards back (depending on the wind)

- the tree in the middle of the fairway on a Par 5 i can clear w/ Driver from the Whites, i'm now punching out from underneath teeing off from the Blues

- the dogleg left Par 4 wherei can hit 4w or 4h to clear the corner, i've got to pull Driver to get to the same place

all of this combined adds 4 - 5 strokes per round....keeping me out of the 80s and into the low/mid 90s.
I've definitely noticed the difference on par-3s when I've played in scrambles from the blues. I'm not consistent with hitting the green off the tee anyway (36% last 20 rounds) and adding distance doesn't help.

I don't hit many greens in regulation (24% last 20 rounds) so I figure if I'm going to miss the green, it probably doesn't matter too much whether I'm hitting an 8-iron or a 5-iron. I'm more likely to hit a worse shot with the longer iron but based on my GIR% it's obvious that I'm not on target right now.

 
I'm really bad right now. Completely lost and no time to get a lesson to get me straightened out.

Shot an 89 today with 37 putts. To make it worse, I only hit a handful of greens so many of those were 2 putt bogeys after a not so great chip following a meh iron shot after a crappy drive. I had 3 holes with a 2 chip/2 putt double bogey. :bag:

 
Took off work early yesterday and played a local muni course. Shot 47/46 and had no penalties for the first time ever - no sand, no lost balls, no OB, no water. Didn't have a score higher than 6 but couldn't hit greens.

This morning I played a course I'd never played before and it was like Jekyll & Hyde. Followed up an opening-hole 9 with three straight pars. Lost 8 balls. Hit 7 GIR and played those holes at +1 with one bogey and six pars (tied personal best). Ended up with a 104 because I couldn't keep the ball in play. I'm just inconsistent because I haven't been able to get out during the week after work to practice.

 
Spent a solid two hours chipping today at the practice green. After about a half hour of being all over the place, I had some tremendous improvement. I realized I needed to really focus on keeping my arms tight with my chest as I took the easy stroke. Doing so kept my arms moving together and prevented my wrists from breaking. Not only was I knocking them at the pin, but my bad hits would still get a decent roll and leave me with a makeable putt, where before the screw ups would go flying across and through the green.

I appreciate all the tips. Now comes the hard part in transferring it to the course.

 
Took off work early yesterday and played a local muni course. Shot 47/46 and had no penalties for the first time ever - no sand, no lost balls, no OB, no water. Didn't have a score higher than 6 but couldn't hit greens.

This morning I played a course I'd never played before and it was like Jekyll & Hyde. Followed up an opening-hole 9 with three straight pars. Lost 8 balls. Hit 7 GIR and played those holes at +1 with one bogey and six pars (tied personal best). Ended up with a 104 because I couldn't keep the ball in play. I'm just inconsistent because I haven't been able to get out during the week after work to practice.
Played the same course again today and improved to 49/49 including back-to-back birdies. Still had trouble keeping it in play (lost 6 balls) but had six 1-putts. I had a lesson this morning where I worked on wedge shots and it helped a lot today. I'm still overswinging on my irons so I'll need to get out to the range to work on it this week.

 
finally got a lesson from my buddy.

I think I have a few things figured out. Posture need some tweaking and my left shoulder was open. Feeling good about these fixes.

 
Rules question.

Two different head to head matches going on in the same foursome. Straight match play. Player A playing B. C playing D.

B and C hit their second shots into the same trees on a par 5. B goes into the trees, finds a ball and hits it out. C can't find his ball, goes back to the previous spot, drops, and hits again. B goes up and finds that he hits C's ball. B's penalty is obviously loss of hole. What does C do? My thought was that it doesn't matter how C's ball was lost/abandoned. As soon as he goes back and drops, that ball is in play.

 
You're correct. The moment he gave up his ball as lost and played another one that was his ball. It doesn't matter under what circumstances he finds it after that, it's just hard luck. If he would've had any question on whether the other player played his ball he could've ran up and looked at it. Then, he could've replaced it and taken his shot. Since he didn't do that, he has to play his penalty ball.

 
Rules question.

Two different head to head matches going on in the same foursome. Straight match play. Player A playing B. C playing D.

B and C hit their second shots into the same trees on a par 5. B goes into the trees, finds a ball and hits it out. C can't find his ball, goes back to the previous spot, drops, and hits again. B goes up and finds that he hits C's ball. B's penalty is obviously loss of hole. What does C do? My thought was that it doesn't matter how C's ball was lost/abandoned. As soon as he goes back and drops, that ball is in play.
15-3. Wrong Ball a. Match PlayIf a player makes a stroke at a wrong ball, he loses the hole.
If the wrong ball belongs to another player, its owner must place a ball on the spot from which the wrong ball was first played.
If the player and opponent exchange balls during the play of a hole, the first to make a stroke at a wrong ball loses the hole; when this cannot be determined, the hole must be played out with the balls exchanged.
Exception: There is no penalty if a player makes a stroke at a wrong ball that is moving in water in a water hazard. Any strokes made at a wrong ball moving in water in a water hazard do not count in the player's score. The player must correct his mistake by playing the correct ball or by proceeding under the Rules.
i take that to mean that B loses the hole (played wrong ball), and C must play a ball from where B played it originally w/out penalty.

i could be wrong though.

 
My chipping let me down again this weekend, but I feel like I'm starting to come out of the funk. It's a promising feeling.

Was hitting my irons pretty good this weekend, but had my drives fading all day. I recently bought the Nike Vapor driver and it has a tour wrap grip. I've always hated these. The weather had been normal summer temps every time we've played before, but yesterday the heat index was near 110 degrees. My glove hand was fine when I'd swing but my right hand seemed to move just enough on every swing that I'd have everything going right. I tried slowing down my swing, taking a shorter backswing... nothing would stop it. Towards the end of the round I started hitting 3W off the tee just because I could grip that club.

I'm seriously thinking about going and getting it regripped.

 
Rules question.

Two different head to head matches going on in the same foursome. Straight match play. Player A playing B. C playing D.

B and C hit their second shots into the same trees on a par 5. B goes into the trees, finds a ball and hits it out. C can't find his ball, goes back to the previous spot, drops, and hits again. B goes up and finds that he hits C's ball. B's penalty is obviously loss of hole. What does C do? My thought was that it doesn't matter how C's ball was lost/abandoned. As soon as he goes back and drops, that ball is in play.
15-3. Wrong Ball a. Match PlayIf a player makes a stroke at a wrong ball, he loses the hole.
If the wrong ball belongs to another player, its owner must place a ball on the spot from which the wrong ball was first played.
If the player and opponent exchange balls during the play of a hole, the first to make a stroke at a wrong ball loses the hole; when this cannot be determined, the hole must be played out with the balls exchanged.
Exception: There is no penalty if a player makes a stroke at a wrong ball that is moving in water in a water hazard. Any strokes made at a wrong ball moving in water in a water hazard do not count in the player's score. The player must correct his mistake by playing the correct ball or by proceeding under the Rules.
i take that to mean that B loses the hole (played wrong ball), and C must play a ball from where B played it originally w/out penalty.

i could be wrong though.
C can only play a ball from the spot where B played his ball if he identifies it within 5 minutes of searching for his lost ball and has NOT played another ball. Once he moved on to playing another ball, he gave his up as lost and it doesn't matter that they found out that player B played it.

 
Rules question.

Two different head to head matches going on in the same foursome. Straight match play. Player A playing B. C playing D.

B and C hit their second shots into the same trees on a par 5. B goes into the trees, finds a ball and hits it out. C can't find his ball, goes back to the previous spot, drops, and hits again. B goes up and finds that he hits C's ball. B's penalty is obviously loss of hole. What does C do? My thought was that it doesn't matter how C's ball was lost/abandoned. As soon as he goes back and drops, that ball is in play.
https://usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Decision-27/#d27-6

27/6 Player Unable to Find His Ball Because Another Player Played ItQ.A and B hit their tee shots into the same general area. A found a ball and played it. B went forward to look for his ball and could not find it. After a few minutes, B started back to the tee to put another ball into play. On the way, he found A's ball and knew then that A had played his (B's) ball in error. What is the ruling?

A.In match play, A lost the hole (Rule 15-3a).

In stroke play, A incurred a penalty of two strokes for playing a wrong ball and must then play his own ball (Rule 15-3b). A's ball was not lost even if A and B had been searching for more than five minutes because A had not "begun to search for it (his ball)"; the searching had been for B's ball – see Definition of "Lost Ball."

On the other hand, B began to search for his ball as soon as he went forward to look for it. If less than five minutes had elapsed before B found A's ball, B should have placed a ball on the spot from which A had wrongly played his (B's) ball and continued play, without penalty – see last paragraph of Rule 15-3b. However, if five minutes had expired, B's original ball was lost and he was obliged to put another ball into play under penalty of stroke and distance (Rule 27-1).

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
What sort of backswing are you using here?

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
What sort of backswing are you using here?
Depends on the distance really.

It's a 50-60 yard club for me and I have nothing in between.i use it for everything within 60 yards. Full swing on 60,then I shorten back swing as I get closer but try to keep a full follow through.

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
just curious: what is your 100 yard club?

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
What sort of backswing are you using here?
Depends on the distance really.

It's a 50-60 yard club for me and I have nothing in between.i use it for everything within 60 yards. Full swing on 60,then I shorten back swing as I get closer but try to keep a full follow through.
"get taller" make sure you have upright posture with the 56 in your hand.

put the ball back in your stand a bit more.

You really need to hit a full bucket of balls with nothing but that club and work on hitting it 30, 50, 70 yards.

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
just curious: what is your 100 yard club?
Gap wedge.

 
Might be time to add another club with different loft to the bag. 56 is my highest lofted club. Maybe 60 will do the trick
any chance of going with a 52 and taking half-swings?
:goodposting:

I dabbled around with using a 56 and a 60 full swings to take care of shorter distances. For me it was just too difficult to hit those suckers with a full swing. I finally just started using my SW (52) for everything 100 yards and in.

I keep the 60 in the bag for some rare chips where I have to get it up quickly, but that's becoming rare. Finding it easier to adjust the loft by playing the ball either backwards or forwards. My 50 yard shot is the SW with a backswing that only goes back to parallel. My 75 yard shot is a SW where the head only gets as high as my head. Been hitting the ball MUCH straighter with this method and controlling the distance so much better. Rarely hitting the ball fat or thin like I did messing around with the 56 and 60.

 
You hit a 52 out of the sand? 52 is a gap, fwiw. 56 is SW. Though Taylor Made and some others started making them 54 so you would think you hit their SW farther than whatever you have now.

 
You hit a 52 out of the sand? 52 is a gap, fwiw. 56 is SW. Though Taylor Made and some others started making them 54 so you would think you hit their SW farther than whatever you have now.
My club with the big S on it is generally what I call my sand wedge. Its has a 52 degree loft on it. My set of PIng Zing 2 irons goes from the 3i down to the SW.

EDIT: I understand where your confusion comes from. Club makers keep dropping the lofts on the clubs so they can claim they go farther. Well of course they do when you drop the loft. IMO club makers should be putting angles on the clubs, not random numbers that don't have any comparative meaning to other clubs. The gap wedge came into existence specifically to fill they hole the club makers created by shifting all the clubs up. Hence, "gap".

 
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You hit a 52 out of the sand? 52 is a gap, fwiw. 56 is SW. Though Taylor Made and some others started making them 54 so you would think you hit their SW farther than whatever you have now.
My club with the big S on it is generally what I call my sand wedge. Its has a 52 degree loft on it. My set of PIng Zing 2 irons goes from the 3i down to the SW.

EDIT: I understand where your confusion comes from. Club makers keep dropping the lofts on the clubs so they can claim they go farther. Well of course they do when you drop the loft. IMO club makers should be putting angles on the clubs, not random numbers that don't have any comparative meaning to other clubs. The gap wedge came into existence specifically to fill they hole the club makers created by shifting all the clubs up. Hence, "gap".
Wow. Didn't realize they had gone a full four degree with the SW. That's nuts.

 
7.20.15

Out 48

In 44

4 fairways, 4 GIR, 33 putts.

meh. had a couple of good holes, but more crappy ones. Driver was loose: left, then right, then middle of the fairway. didn't have a GIR until #13. three balls OB, and two 3-putts....not really the best way to score. on the positive side: five 1-putts and didn't miss-hit a chip/pitch all day.

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.

My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.

My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
+1 on the advice. I would much rather leave myself 100-110 out and take a full swing than 50-60 out and try to figure out how much of a swing to take. One day I'll get better at the intermediate shots but for now, I try to leave myself with shots I can make.

 
Grahamburn said:
John Bender said:
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.

My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
Golf digest had a study a couple of years ago that went against this line of thinking. According to that study, the closer "average" golfers were to the green, the better they scored. And the correlation increased with higher handicaps.

Not sure I agree with the study from my own experience, but the research in the article looked pretty solid.

 
Well good news my hand is almost 100%. Bad news the month layoff played havoc with my swing. That being said I had one of those rounds where I did not hit the ball great but slapped together an 82 which felt like 92. Bad putts drives irons.

However par 5 18th

I had 213 to the flag. About 200 to 205 to carry the water. Hit a 3 hybrid pure. Final yardage I hit it 214. Made the 3 ft eagle to end the day

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.

My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
I had someone awhile back put a 52 degree in my hand and have me put the ball in the ball of my stance and play a half-swing shot that's almost like a bump and run. Worked wonders.

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.

My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
Golf digest had a study a couple of years ago that went against this line of thinking. According to that study, the closer "average" golfers were to the green, the better they scored. And the correlation increased with higher handicaps.

Not sure I agree with the study from my own experience, but the research in the article looked pretty solid.
Yeah anybody above like a 10 should always try to be closer to the hole and, usually, should always just hit their longest clubs off the tee.

 
I really need to learn to pitch and chip.

Killing my game. Driver, putter and long irons are amazing right now... So let me ask a few questions...

First of all, if I can putt it, I do. If it's rough I'll hit a putt w a lofted club instead of the putter. This is working well with me.

I'm more having trouble w 50-60 yards to my target. My 56 degree is failing me miserable.

Am I still supposed to hit down on the ball/compress it and take a divot with this club?

The club never seems to turn over for me. I lose control and leave the face way to open and toe it to the right miserably.

Help with those 50 yard unobstructed shots?
Most weekend golfers are awful at this shot.

My solution: Don't leave yourself this distance.
I had someone awhile back put a 52 degree in my hand and have me put the ball in the ball of my stance and play a half-swing shot that's almost like a bump and run. Worked wonders.
If you have enough green to work with, this is absolutely the shot you want to play.

 
A lot to be said for state of mind...

I haven't broken 80 in a few months at home. I'm at the beach with my yearly family vacation, 25 people. Grew up playing with my uncles and cousins.

Played twice this week with them...Holiday (easy) and Sharks Tooth (tough)...had a group game but I'm really competitive with my youngest uncle, who is a 4. I shot 75-78 and beat him both rounds. Just really relaxed, and looked at my phone one time each round.

 
chipping and irons are so bad.

However.... Limekiln, hole 9, blue course, pretty even level the whole way, par 5

325 yard drive with 3 non friend witnesses :flex:

It was last hole of the day and I was driving it well so I said I'm either gonna lose the ball or hit my longest drive ever.

All I did was shift a little more weight back on my take away.

Played horribly but was probably my proudest golf moment.

God I wish I could fix my chipping and pitching.

 
I'm hungover. Missed 2 3 footers. 1 for birdie. Had 3 3 putts.almost had an ace

77.

Golf is dumb

 
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