***Official 2025 Golf Thread,, belljr quits Again!?!*** (6 Viewers)

[TLEF316]

One thing I have learned this year is that NOTHING puts me on tilt more than unnecessarily slow play in front of me.  This is basically what goes on in my head.....

Played the best front 9 I've ever played last night. Shot a very stress free 38. Nothing heroic, one little bit of good luck. I was just super solid and made good chips and lag putts.  There were a couple of slow groups in front of us, but one was 2 older couples and the other had a guy who was clearly REALLY bad, (topped every tee ball that I saw and was in EVERY bunker on the course) so i assumed they'd quit after 9 (It was about 7 PM when I hit the turn) and I'd be able to fly through the back.

Of course, they didn't and I had to stand around waiting on every shot for the back 9, throwing off my rhythm and just making me angry. Still put together a decent round but it could and probably should have been my best round ever. Finished in nearly pitch black and I was just furious.

COVID has allowed me to play more golf (since I'm working from home every day and get the flexibility to walk out the door a little early) but it means that everyone else is playing too. I'm used to being basically alone on the course (or with my brother) but now its a total crapshoot based on whether groups in front of us decide to play the back.

The 2 couples were spending 10 minutes walking around every green like it was a garden party and the group in front of me had a huge guy who THOUGHT he could hit into the group in front......so he would wait forever to hit and then hit it like 50 yards (usually into a bunker or near the woods, so he'd have to spend 5 minutes looking for it) . And his partner would take like 10 practice swings on every shot.

:blowsout:

 

[Zow]

Played against one of the "cool kids" at my club today. 

I'm just a ####### magnet for an 81 at my course. Good enough to win 2 and 1 last weekend and lose 2 and 1 today. But, had lunch a several beers with my opponent and his buddy who is reigning club champ. Made a bunch of friends and was introduced to main cash game. I have so many new numbers in my phone and feel like it's ten years ago except I'm getting new golf partners instead of dates.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Played against one of the "cool kids" at my club today. 

I'm just a ####### magnet for an 81 at my course. Good enough to win 2 and 1 last weekend and lose 2 and 1 today. But, had lunch a several beers with my opponent and his buddy who is reigning club champ. Made a bunch of friends and was introduced to main cash game. I have so many new numbers in my phone and feel like it's ten years ago except I'm getting new golf partners instead of dates.

congrats - fresh meat!

 

[Judge Smails]

congrats - fresh meat!

Exactly - if you don’t know who the fish in the group is, well....

I’ve played with a few sharks at our club. Invited me to join their money game. Told em I ain’t making their mortgage payment. They laughed 

 

[Grahamburn]

Been playing pretty good except the last month or so I have developed a dead pull on my tee ball.  I have never done this before so it is puzzling and ruining my scores.  The course my league plays on is heavily wooded so a pull is OB or always ends up under or behind a tree.  Then I have to punch out and hope for a bogey at best.

Tuesday I hit 4 good drives and pulled 3 hard left.  Doubled all three holes.

Loosen up your hands on the club a little bit. You’re probably gripping it too hard and getting a lot of right hand on the downswing.  

“Hold it like an egg.” 

 

[Beef Ravioli]

Is this the appropriate thread to ask questions about what golf clubs I should consider/purchase? I read through a page or so and it seems most are discussing their current games and I didn’t want to bring my question in if there is better thread for it. Thanks! 

 

[belljr]

Is this the appropriate thread to ask questions about what golf clubs I should consider/purchase? I read through a page or so and it seems most are discussing their current games and I didn’t want to bring my question in if there is better thread for it. Thanks! 

Of course it is. This is all things personal golf

 

[Beef Ravioli]

Of course it is. This is all things personal golf

Great! 

I golf on average, once every ten days during the golf season. An average round for me is 95-100 or if I have a really good round, I’ll be around an 88-92. I have never bought a nice set of clubs, although I am 49 and been playing off and on for 20 years. I have taken hand me downs and purchased used clubs from buddies, etc. 

Kids are out of the house, no more private school tuition, making more money, plan to play more golf than I have, wife gave me the green light, no grandkids yet = I would like to purchase some clubs.

I do not want to just purchase a set to have the latest brand name in my bag, but the right set to help me get to the next level of scoring. I do not want to go above $1,000 if I can help it. 
 

Is it worth it to go to the local golf store and talk to a guy that probably knows more than the “golf guy” at ****’s or Golf Galaxy? The little research I have done, it looks like fittings are expensive, at least at the local shops I looked at. 
 

Should I consider truly custom clubs? Can I afford them with that budget? 
 

Any direction you can give, I appreciate it! 

 

[belljr]

What is the "local golf store".

There is nothing wrong with going to golf galaxy.  Some of the guys there have to go through a training program tondo fittings.

Gold galaxy will fit you for free if you purchase irons.  It can't hurt to talk to them, go look at some iron sets and hit different clubs.

Is the 1000 for a full set or just irons?

You will probably want some type of game improvement iron. Start here

https://www.golfdigest.com/hot-list/golf-clubs/game-improvement-irons

 

[Beef Ravioli]

What is the "local golf store".

There is nothing wrong with going to golf galaxy.  Some of the guys there have to go through a training program tondo fittings.

Gold galaxy will fit you for free if you purchase irons.  It can't hurt to talk to them, go look at some iron sets and hit different clubs.

Is the 1000 for a full set or just irons?

You will probably want some type of game improvement iron. Start here

https://www.golfdigest.com/hot-list/golf-clubs/game-improvement-irons

When I googled “golf club fitting” near me. There were several smaller, perhaps locally owned stores in my region. They appeared to have the knowledge and expertise. Their fitting prices were also very expensive. I was not sure what to expect from the “fitter guy” at a ##### or Golf Galaxy. Just because someone works at Lowe’s, I have found out that many of them have no clue about my kitchen sink. 
 

I will check out the link and will also look into the local Golf Galaxy. 

 

[belljr]

When I googled “golf club fitting” near me. There were several smaller, perhaps locally owned stores in my region. They appeared to have the knowledge and expertise. Their fitting prices were also very expensive. I was not sure what to expect from the “fitter guy” at a ##### or Golf Galaxy. Just because someone works at Lowe’s, I have found out that many of them have no clue about my kitchen sink. 
 

I will check out the link and will also look into the local Golf Galaxy. 

Ah gotcha. I've never done the full fitting at a local place.  My golf galaxy the guy there I really like, he's done my 2 sets of irons and my putter 

I'm sure your mileage may vary. But afaik golf galaxy requires training to fit.  Worst case go find some clubs you like the feel and look of before narrowing it down.  Believe me "the look matters" a little.  As in looking down at the club at address

 

[Angry Beavers]

Have not played much the past few years. I keep thinking about getting new clubs but never pull the trigger. When I was "good" I played to a 8 handicap, but that was several years ago. If any of ya'll have thoughts on what clubs to test drive, I am all ears as I have the serious golf itch again. ( I probably should get a new driver too as all the clubs are literally 15+ years old  )

I have played three times in the last 10 days - Thanks Covid.  Shot a 40-42 this morning at the local metroparks track.  I know that is not anything spectacular, but for me, I was really happy with it. I drove the ball pretty straight and was reasonably consistent with my irons and short game.  I had 2 doubles on the back and just missed very makeable birdie putts on 11 and 16 and a short par putt on 17 that would have looked really good on the scorecard.  I doubled 10 and 18 after a wayward 3 wood off the turf ( par 5) and chunking an iron into the creek on 18 where I had laid up perfectly at the bottom of the hill - just looking for last bit of consistency.  Anyway, thanks for listening - I could explain all of this to my wife, but she just wants to know "Did you have fun? and What should we do for lunch?"

 

[Grahamburn]

Great! 

I golf on average, once every ten days during the golf season. An average round for me is 95-100 or if I have a really good round, I’ll be around an 88-92. I have never bought a nice set of clubs, although I am 49 and been playing off and on for 20 years. I have taken hand me downs and purchased used clubs from buddies, etc. 

Kids are out of the house, no more private school tuition, making more money, plan to play more golf than I have, wife gave me the green light, no grandkids yet = I would like to purchase some clubs.

I do not want to just purchase a set to have the latest brand name in my bag, but the right set to help me get to the next level of scoring. I do not want to go above $1,000 if I can help it. 
 

Is it worth it to go to the local golf store and talk to a guy that probably knows more than the “golf guy” at ****’s or Golf Galaxy? The little research I have done, it looks like fittings are expensive, at least at the local shops I looked at. 
 

Should I consider truly custom clubs? Can I afford them with that budget? 
 

Any direction you can give, I appreciate it! 

Not saying you shouldn't buy clubs, but have you thought about lessons?  Maybe alternate those rounds with one on one instruction from a pro.  Your game will improve drastically, and THEN once you groove a trustworthy swing go get fitted for clubs tailored to that swing. 

 

[Zow]

Lessons then fitted is the way to go. 

A really good set may not be a really good set for your swing. I didn't know this until I actually did a swing and saw the numbers. 

 

[Beef Ravioli]

Anyone here play with single length irons? Thoughts? 

 

[mr roboto]

Lessons and get fitted.

 

[the moops]

Anyone here play with single length irons? Thoughts? 

I don't play much at all. Play like 2-5 times a year, but still manage to shoot low-  mid 80's (mostly). Had a real old set of clubs that I never really liked. Won some money and had a grand or so and decided to spnd it on the Cobra King F9 irons. Bought the F9 Speedback woods as well.

Figured I would at least try something different to spice up my game  Same reason years ago when I was a mediocre guitar player I decided to buy a mandolin.

I only played one round - shot a 89 (probably worst I have shot in a dozen years). But I had never hit a one length iron until the first tee. Also had never hit the driver and fairlway woods I had. Oh - was also missing a few clubs because I bought them piecemail from various sources (had 5 iron - SW, and Driver and 3W - didn't have a 4 iron, or 5 wood or 7 wood - bascially had a gap between my 170 and 200 club).

I enjoyed the clubs though. The 5 and 6 irons cut to 7 iron length felt real nice. The SW cut to 7 iron length felt weird as ####.

Need to play some more to give a real answer for you I guess

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Anyone have a good book recommendation for a book on the mental aspect of the game? I found my iron game again and card on average a birdie and 6-8 pars a round but am having blow up holes that are costing me big time. Today at eagle vine in Napa put my 3rd on a par 5 in the green side bunker and then proceed to find the bunker across and blow up into an 8. My bunker play is usually nails but after the first hole it was shot for the round as I mentally couldn’t recover. This is the norm, have one shot go bad with a single club and then can’t recover, I know I should let it go but I can’t seem to get over that hurdle. One shot on a single hole can unravel a round, yesterday at bodega bay same thing only with my lob wedge that cost me probably 10 strokes  thankfully my green reading and putter are out of control this past month. 
 

long winded but any rec’s are highly appreciated as I’ll have 5-6 weeks of no golf coming up and need to fill my m-w with reading 

 

[encaitar]

Anyone have a good book recommendation for a book on the mental aspect of the game? I found my iron game again and card on average a birdie and 6-8 pars a round but am having blow up holes that are costing me big time. Today at eagle vine in Napa put my 3rd on a par 5 in the green side bunker and then proceed to find the bunker across and blow up into an 8. My bunker play is usually nails but after the first hole it was shot for the round as I mentally couldn’t recover. This is the norm, have one shot go bad with a single club and then can’t recover, I know I should let it go but I can’t seem to get over that hurdle. One shot on a single hole can unravel a round, yesterday at bodega bay same thing only with my lob wedge that cost me probably 10 strokes  thankfully my green reading and putter are out of control this past month. 
 

long winded but any rec’s are highly appreciated as I’ll have 5-6 weeks of no golf coming up and need to fill my m-w with reading 

Golf is Not a Game of Perfect. by Dr. Bob Rotella

Lot of good material here, but the biggest takeaway I had was ...  allow yourself 7 mistakes a round....  This was taken from Walter Hagen? I believe.   Anyways... lots of sage advice in this book IMO.

 

[belljr]

Golf is Not a Game of Perfect. by Dr. Bob Rotella

Lot of good material here, but the biggest takeaway I had was ...  allow yourself 7 mistakes a round....  This was taken from Walter Hagen? I believe.   Anyways... lots of sage advice in this book IMO.

Good book.

Another point I picked up from another source is don't use the word don't.  Our brains don't process that.

So instead of dont go right.  Tell yourself stay left.   Or don't decelerate tell yourself accelerate for example

 

[TLEF316]

So i never go into any sort of tournament expecting anything more than a little fun and laughs. But man.....cheaters (alleged cheaters.....I guess)  really do just straight up ruin these sorts of events.

Played a best 2 of 4 balls today .   85% handicaps were applied.  We didn't have a great round and were not expecting to win when scores were announced. We played ok but just didn't make enough putts and I didn't take advantage on some holes where I was getting strokes. (my handicap is as low as its ever been due to a great run in June and I've been playing like #### the last 3 weeks or so, so not ideal) But whatever, it was a really fun day.

The guys that "won" the net allegedly shot a 150 Gross (again, 2 balls of 4) and a 119 NET.    How is it possible that 4 guys getting that many strokes also happened to play well enough to card two gross 75's?  That just seems nearly impossible to me

I guess its theoretically possible that they just played absolutely out of their asses, but I'm very skeptical......

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Good book.

Another point I picked up from another source is don't use the word don't.  Our brains don't process that.

So instead of dont go right.  Tell yourself stay left.   Or don't decelerate tell yourself accelerate for example

I’ve quit doing that, I used to grab a #### ball for water shots expecting them to go in and half the time they did. Now I just use my ball im playing with for the day and I’d say I’m only in the water 20% of the time and it’s usually because I had the wrong club. I just have to find a way to let it go, I played yesterday and played like #### thru 9 then and then played the back 9 4 over with a double due to a bad bounce into the water. Literally landed on a sprinkler head 5 paces off the green and shot up over the backside to the path and hopped again into the water. Was good for some laughs at least and loosened me up...well that and the booze.

 

[The General]

Got to play for the first time in a few weeks after healing up a back up issue. So great.

Played really well for me. 

Slowing the swing down helped a ton. Was doing this on the first few holes because I was nervous swinging with the injury.  Drive got a little loose around the turn and my buddy told me I was swinging faster. Slowed it down again and it was working rest of the round 

Got to figure out that tempo without obsessing about it.

Getting out again Monday hope I can get some muscle memory going to keep this swing tempo.

 

[Judge Smails]

So i never go into any sort of tournament expecting anything more than a little fun and laughs. But man.....cheaters (alleged cheaters.....I guess)  really do just straight up ruin these sorts of events.

Played a best 2 of 4 balls today .   85% handicaps were applied.  We didn't have a great round and were not expecting to win when scores were announced. We played ok but just didn't make enough putts and I didn't take advantage on some holes where I was getting strokes. (my handicap is as low as its ever been due to a great run in June and I've been playing like #### the last 3 weeks or so, so not ideal) But whatever, it was a really fun day.

The guys that "won" the net allegedly shot a 150 Gross (again, 2 balls of 4) and a 119 NET.    How is it possible that 4 guys getting that many strokes also happened to play well enough to card two gross 75's?  That just seems nearly impossible to me

I guess its theoretically possible that they just played absolutely out of their asses, but I'm very skeptical......

I hear you. Usually the same suspects. 16 handicaps shooting 75-77. Yeah right. And then they win the tourney by 8 strokes. Ban em

 

[belljr]

So a net 119 is ~25 shots under par.  

So for arguments sake we will say a 12 and 13 shots.  85% hcp means a 14/15 hcp

There is zero chance they are a 14/15 or zero chance they shot 75.

I'm a 7 hcp and only shot 75 a handful of times

 

[TLEF316]

Again....16 handicaps can make pars, so it's possible for 4 of them to string together enough on a good day to put together 2 decent cards in this format. (Maybe somewhere in the low 80's if they make a couple of birdies?) I mean, I'm a 13 and I've had days where I've made like 12 pars but then had a couple of blowup holes that tanked my score (which wouldn't matter in this format)

 But basically making 2 pars on nearly every hole?  With only 6 bogeys all day? I don't buy that #### for a second.  

 

[TLEF316]

So a net 119 is ~25 shots under par.  

So for arguments sake we will say a 12 and 13 shots.  85% hcp means a 14/15 hcp

There is zero chance they are a 14/15 or zero chance they shot 75.

I'm a 7 hcp and only shot 75 a handful of times

Yeah they had a 14, a 17 and two 19's.

The format allows some wiggle room (since you only have to count your best 2 scores on each hole) but still seems impossible.

We wouldn't have won anyway but it just boggles my mind that people would try to pull this stunt. Its not like there was huge money at play or anything.

 

[Da Guru]

Been playing way more this year due there is really nothing else to do. Had a 43-41 yesterday with a bird for an 84 and that was a solid round for me. Scuffed a couple of chips that cost me a few strokes otherwise did not miss many shots.

The one shot that does me in is when I have a short chip over a bunker with a tight pin.  Seems I chunk it into the trap or blade it through the green.

On another note I probably have 5-6 putters in my garage that I paid over 100 each for. Pings, Odyssey`s..last month I go to a garage sale and bought a old Titleist Dead Center putter for 5 bucks with original grip.  I looked it up online and it was from early 90s.

I have never putted better since I have been using it.  3 putts ways down, distance control much better and draining more 5-6 footers than ever.

 

[Da Guru]

Got to play for the first time in a few weeks after healing up a back up issue. So great.

Played really well for me. 

Slowing the swing down helped a ton. Was doing this on the first few holes because I was nervous swinging with the injury.  Drive got a little loose around the turn and my buddy told me I was swinging faster. Slowed it down again and it was working rest of the round 

Got to figure out that tempo without obsessing about it.

Getting out again Monday hope I can get some muscle memory going to keep this swing tempo.

My main problem is keeping my swing on a smooth pace.  When I am playing good everything is smooth.  When I start hitting bad shots everything gets quick..my backswing gets way too fast.   The teaching Pro told me when I tee off in my mind to count 1-2-3 with 3 being the top of my backswing and then 4 is my stroke through the ball.  Sounds simple but it has helped me slow down.

 

[belljr]

Yeah they had a 14, a 17 and two 19's.

The format allows some wiggle room (since you only have to count your best 2 scores on each hole) but still seems impossible.

We wouldn't have won anyway but it just boggles my mind that people would try to pull this stunt. Its not like there was huge money at play or anything.

Oh, I misunderstood a little. But  Our Sunday groups playing best ball 4somes single score is usually -5 to minus -8 Net!!!  I still find it highly unlikely 4 of those guys can shoot a plus 6 gross

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Adam Young Golf

@adamyounggolf

1h

Watching amateur golfers try to help fix each other is like watching someone trying to solve 2X3 by using incorrect abstract algebra

 

[Judge Smails]

Adam Young Golf

@adamyounggolf

1h

Watching amateur golfers try to help fix each other is like watching someone trying to solve 2X3 by using incorrect abstract algebra

Maybe. But the buddy I play with - we know each other’s swings inside out. Usually one little reminder gets us back on track. 

Good round for me, especially so soon after a lesson. Bottom line is my backswing has gotten really short even though my shoulders are making a full turn and my lower body is solid as well. So worked on lengthening backswing through relaxed left tricep, earlier wrist hinge and wanted me to feel like my left elbow was bending a little (I was just too rigid with the takeaway). Anyway 1 double, 3 birdies - 79. Could have been better too. Made some putts but a few chips were scruffy. Should have been easy up and downs. 

 

[belljr]

Adam Young Golf

@adamyounggolf

1h

Watching amateur golfers try to help fix each other is like watching someone trying to solve 2X3 by using incorrect abstract algebra

Lol.  I subscribed to his one plan.  Didn't follow it, was curious

 

[belljr]

Playing tomorrow for the first time in about 6 weeks it's going to be terrible

 

[TLEF316]

Just can't string together a good round right now. Had a really nice front 9, completely fell apart on the back.

Actually struck the ball pretty well, but my short game was a disaster. Missed 2 birdie putts short on the front and overcompensated to start the back. And then I missed like 3 short ones.

Still a better score than I've been putting up the past few weeks, but man this is getting frustrating.

 

[Mr.Pack]

The one shot that does me in is when I have a short chip over a bunker with a tight pin.  Seems I chunk it into the trap or blade it through the green.

Get yourself a 60 degree lob wedge. BUT learn how to use it. You really need to swing firmly, follow thru and trust that it's not going to fly the green. It's different swinging that than a SW

 

[belljr]

Meh bad irons, great driver, bad chips, bad wedges and mediocre putting.

 

[Hankmoody]

Adam Young Golf

@adamyounggolf

1h

Watching amateur golfers try to help fix each other is like watching someone trying to solve 2X3 by using incorrect abstract algebra

My buddies are constantly asking me for tips.  I'm easily the best golfer in the group at about a 12 (got down to 7.3 when I had a membership 2016-2017). but I'm no teaching pro.  Drives me nuts.  What works for me obviously isn't going to work for you or you'd be a 12 too.  And if I could look at someone and correct their swing I'd be making cash giving lessons.  But alas I'm just a donkey that swings the club decently well.

In a huge twist of irony though something very funny happened along these lines recently.  I've been struggling badly the last 18 months.  I've moved home to take care of my aging parents and don't get out nearly like I do so it's no surprise and it's not really even bothering me.  Were I bothering to record scores I'd probably be playing to a 16 or 18.  But it's fine, I still enjoy getting out and playing with my buddies, I have just adapted my expectations.  Recently one of my friends, easily the worst golfer of the regular group and a guy that shoots 110-140 started showing nice improvement on a recent round.  On 9 tee I noticed a move from him I'd never seen (he dropped his right knee way down and in) and he said he was taking lessons and that was what his guy had him do.  It was an intentional over-emphasis intended to get him to shift his weight back to his left side.

This got me thinking, and reflecting on my swing and I realized that I was doing a terrible job at this myself.  I spent some range time addressing this in a similar manner and all of a sudden I'm bombing the ball like I never have in my life.  Yesterday I hit 11 fairways.  I've kept all my stats for years and from 2012-2018 I never once broke 10.  So his lesson really upped my game.  We've had a great time with that one the last couple of weeks.

 

[Hankmoody]

Been playing way more this year due there is really nothing else to do. Had a 43-41 yesterday with a bird for an 84 and that was a solid round for me. Scuffed a couple of chips that cost me a few strokes otherwise did not miss many shots.

The one shot that does me in is when I have a short chip over a bunker with a tight pin.  Seems I chunk it into the trap or blade it through the green.

On another note I probably have 5-6 putters in my garage that I paid over 100 each for. Pings, Odyssey`s..last month I go to a garage sale and bought a old Titleist Dead Center putter for 5 bucks with original grip.  I looked it up online and it was from early 90s.

I have never putted better since I have been using it.  3 putts ways down, distance control much better and draining more 5-6 footers than ever.

Get yourself a 60 degree lob wedge. BUT learn how to use it. You really need to swing firmly, follow thru and trust that it's not going to fly the green. It's different swinging that than a SW

I mostly agree.  But really just opening the face of your standard gap/lob does the same thing.  The key is to understand the miss - it's ok to hit it 25 feet long.  You can two putt from that.  Dumping one in the bunker and getting a buried lie and still being tight-sided is the miss you gotta avoid.

 

[Quint]

got out last Wednesday at the local muni. worked on shortening my backswing on all clubs, and made much better contact across the board. still hitting driver with a small fade/tail (not uncommon). what's interesting is that my miss with the drive is right, and all my irons are going (tugged) left. this has to be an issue with alignment, so that's something else to work on. hit a couple of balls into the sand, and was able to get out both times including a long one of about 25 yards to a short pin. missed the putt of course. and putting was bordering on miserable: just no feel for distance, but the reads were correct. 

will hit it again this week while the weather is nice. 

 

[Hankmoody]

Just can't string together a good round right now. Had a really nice front 9, completely fell apart on the back.

Actually struck the ball pretty well, but my short game was a disaster. Missed 2 birdie putts short on the front and overcompensated to start the back. And then I missed like 3 short ones.

Still a better score than I've been putting up the past few weeks, but man this is getting frustrating.

This is the one that crushes me.  A few weeks ago I was 3 under after 7 and 2 under after 11.  Bogey, bogey, double, bogey, bogey bogey, par finish.  It's hard to be disappointed with a 77 but man I can't help wonder what if.  I didn't even play bad those holes - just couldn't find a rhythm.

 

[Da Guru]

Get yourself a 60 degree lob wedge. BUT learn how to use it. You really need to swing firmly, follow thru and trust that it's not going to fly the green. It's different swinging that than a SW

Benn thinking about adding a 60.   I think i just tighten up everything.  Many times after I have already screwed that shot up I will drop a ball and being all loose hit a nice shot.    

 

[mr roboto]

Just got my first handicap. It doesn’t make sense to me. Only have 10 scores to post. 
 

I’m a 2.7 but my 5 lowest differentials were 1, 2.9, 4.1, 4.4, 4.4
 

How does this work again?  I’ve never carried one before 

 

[belljr]

Just got my first handicap. It doesn’t make sense to me. Only have 10 scores to post. 
 

I’m a 2.7 but my 5 lowest differentials were 1, 2.9, 4.1, 4.4, 4.4
 

How does this work again?  I’ve never carried one before 

https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html

10 scores use low 3

 

[mr roboto]

https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html

10 scores use low 3

Gotcha so I’m going to go up. 

 

[Hankmoody]

https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html

10 scores use low 3

Wow that's a huge change.

 

[belljr]

Wow that's a huge change.

I guess. They dropped from 10 to 8 of your last 20.

Under 20 was always a little wonky

 

[Hankmoody]

Under 20 was just 1/2 IIRC  I was meaning "big" more in the complexity of determining it.  I wrote a spreadsheet that tracked my index based on the old method and there's a lot more to it now.  Just the change from best 10 to bets 8 would have taken me from a low of 7.0 to 6.4 which isn't as big an impact as I expected, but that's without any of the other stuff included.  I currently account for ESC but a lot of other changes seem new to me.  It's ironic that the way and frequency I have played the last couple of months has had me interested in keeping an index again and having to re-do my spreadsheet based on these changes probably makes that a no-go.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Rip golf for me. Dropped the clubs off to get new grips on Sunday, have a round this afternoon scheduled and will use my old irons, wedges and driver. No 3 wood or 3 hybrid will leave a decent gap but I’ll adapt. Both knees getting cleaned up on Thursday so I’ll have time for some metal game books and watching the pros play. Can’t wait to get back out in mid September and play with the new grips.

 

[belljr]

Under 20 was just 1/2 IIRC  I was meaning "big" more in the complexity of determining it.  I wrote a spreadsheet that tracked my index based on the old method and there's a lot more to it now.  Just the change from best 10 to bets 8 would have taken me from a low of 7.0 to 6.4 which isn't as big an impact as I expected, but that's without any of the other stuff included.  I currently account for ESC but a lot of other changes seem new to me.  It's ironic that the way and frequency I have played the last couple of months has had me interested in keeping an index again and having to re-do my spreadsheet based on these changes probably makes that a no-go.

Yeah ESC is now net double bogey and course rating is now a factor