***Official 2025 Golf Thread, tbd*** (15 Viewers)

[belljr]

even the courses near me that are public don't have practice facilities just the private ones do

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Need some help here. I've always had a tour-level swing speed. Driver 275-285, 7 iron 175. My problem is I'm duck footed. I walk with my feet pointed outward. My whole lower body has conformed to this. If I stand with a square left foot I can't really clear my left hip properly to finish with a full shoulder turn. I've compesated by firing/flipping my right hand at impact and standing upright at impact (my spine angle at impact is more upright and to rotate around my left foot I get onto my left toe to spin through to a full finish).

This is killing my long iron game. Without wngaging in an intentional stretching or training program I want to turn my left foot open at address to allow room to clear. I'm fighting resorting to this 'compensation' because it's not traditional but honestly I just want the forward shaft lean I used to have. I'm even willing to address slightly open to facilitate this.

If I go this route what should I watch out for? Coming over the top? More cut shots?

Example http://youtu.be/9s1yaXvElBA

I know I'm late to the game here and others have answered, but Ben Hogan wrote the correct stance at address had the right foot square to the target line and the left foot turned a quarter turn (22.5 degrees) open. If I remember correctly, Hogan said this was the ONLY correct setup. Of course we know there are always other ways that will work, but it is definitely "traditional" to have the left foot turned out and I don't see any reason why you would want to have it square.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

eventually it MUST stop raining here so I can play some golf!!!

 

[mr roboto]

Need some help here. I've always had a tour-level swing speed. Driver 275-285, 7 iron 175. My problem is I'm duck footed. I walk with my feet pointed outward. My whole lower body has conformed to this. If I stand with a square left foot I can't really clear my left hip properly to finish with a full shoulder turn. I've compesated by firing/flipping my right hand at impact and standing upright at impact (my spine angle at impact is more upright and to rotate around my left foot I get onto my left toe to spin through to a full finish).

This is killing my long iron game. Without wngaging in an intentional stretching or training program I want to turn my left foot open at address to allow room to clear. I'm fighting resorting to this 'compensation' because it's not traditional but honestly I just want the forward shaft lean I used to have. I'm even willing to address slightly open to facilitate this.

If I go this route what should I watch out for? Coming over the top? More cut shots?

Example http://youtu.be/9s1yaXvElBA

I know I'm late to the game here and others have answered, but Ben Hogan wrote the correct stance at address had the right foot square to the target line and the left foot turned a quarter turn (22.5 degrees) open. If I remember correctly, Hogan said this was the ONLY correct setup. Of course we know there are always other ways that will work, but it is definitely "traditional" to have the left foot turned out and I don't see any reason why you would want to have it square.

Thx. When you say open you mean the foot not necessarily the line of the feet (so the foot line still aims parallel to your target line). Like this \ |

 

[belljr]

Yes

 

[Binky The Doormat]

I can't hit off mats. Just hate it. I've got a nice public course about 20mins away with a great grass range and putting/chipping green (Stonewall Orchard).

"MAT BADDDDDD." - signed Phil Hartman's Frankenstein

 

[Jayrok]

Golf Board

Have you?

Would you?

I may hold out for the hover board.

 

[Apple Jack]

no interest in the golf board, but that could be huge.

 

[John Bender]

no interest in the golf board, but that could be huge.

Where the hell are you supposed to put your beer in between shots tho?

 

[Jayrok]

no interest in the golf board, but that could be huge.

Where the hell are you supposed to put your beer in between shots tho?

yep. I figure the young guys would like this to surf the contours of the course and green side grass bunkers. I'll stick to the cart that has cup holders and a basket in back for a small cooler.

 

[mr roboto]

Yeah that's cool for the younger guys. Vast majority of recreations golfers aren't gonna stand and ride like that.

 

[Zow]

Board looks awesome but it's 6500. You can get a suped up golf cart for that.

 

[Apple Jack]

no interest in the golf board, but that could be huge.

Where the hell are you supposed to put your beer in between shots tho?

yep. I figure the young guys would like this to surf the contours of the course and green side grass bunkers. I'll stick to the cart that has cup holders and a basket in back for a small cooler.

golf board 2.0, now with trailer hitch.

 

[heckmanm]

We've had 2 nice weather days so far. Spent both of them working, mowing, landscaping, or schlepping kids around

 

[heckmanm]

We've had 2 nice weather days so far. Spent both of them working, mowing, landscaping, or schlepping kids around

Aaaand we have snow flurries

 

[TheIronSheik]

We've had 2 nice weather days so far. Spent both of them working, mowing, landscaping, or schlepping kids around

Aaaand we have snow flurries

Not sure exactly where you are, but this cold front moving through the northeast will have some snow in it. Also will usher in fall like temps for a while. This weekend will not be ideal for golfing in the northeast portion of the US.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

We've had 2 nice weather days so far. Spent both of them working, mowing, landscaping, or schlepping kids around

Aaaand we have snow flurries

I guess I'll have to quit complaining that our greens out here are too firm because of the dought.

 

[Gustavo Fring]

Golf Board

Have you?

Would you?

I may hold out for the hover board.

Saw a guy on one of these when I was playing out in Scottsdale. Looked like he hooked up a long board to a segway, but seemed like it would be fun for the first couple times out and then the shiny new toyness of it would wear off for me, and I would want to go back to riding and boozing in a cart.

 

[belljr]

Round 3 sunday...pumped now. Swing is feeling good.

of course that mean I play like a dog

 

[TheIronSheik]

Round 3 sunday...pumped now. Swing is feeling good.

of course that mean I play like a dog

Going to be a cool autumn day for golf on Sunday.

 

[belljr]

Round 3 sunday...pumped now. Swing is feeling good.

of course that mean I play like a dog

Going to be a cool autumn day for golf on Sunday.

brohan - I teed it up 6 weeks ago when it was 28 degrees out. I'm not ascared

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Played for the first time in almost a year on Monday. Crappy little scramble on a non-competitive team (though its all pencil cheatin' bastards).

Tendonitus was excruciating and really messed up my swing - not counting the overall stiffness of my whole body. First time I have tried to play with it. I have never had it before - it started about a month ago. I ordered a "flex-stick" for exercises and DMSO. I gotta get over this before getting back at it.

 

[heckmanm]

We've had 2 nice weather days so far. Spent both of them working, mowing, landscaping, or schlepping kids around

Aaaand we have snow flurries

Not sure exactly where you are, but this cold front moving through the northeast will have some snow in it. Also will usher in fall like temps for a while. This weekend will not be ideal for golfing in the northeast portion of the US.

NE Indiana (Fort Wayne)

 

[gianmarco]

How would you like to see this the next time you're out golfing?

 

[John Bender]

How would you like to see this the next time you're out golfing?

shopped

 

[TheIronSheik]

How would you like to see this the next time you're out golfing?

shopped

It's actually not. They interviewed the owner of the course and he said they have a bunch of alligators out on the course. He said something like "I think it's funny people think the picture is photoshopped when that's not even the biggest alligator we have on the course."

 

[belljr]

Well my opening 80 blew up.

last 2 rounds ..... 46 - 40

45 - 38

My wedges are either perfect or a train wreck

 

[Apple Jack]

after some midafternoon looting i'll be heading out for my second round this year. pretty psyched. green will be completely healed from punching.

 

[John Bender]

Was supposed to golf with another FBG Sunday...

Tweaked my back - probably from hitting so many balls at the range.

####ty to be a big golfer and always have back problems. I get this "pre-back thrown out" pain that takes away any ability to put weight on my back. If I put any pressure, the back goes out for 3-5 days and I can't move at all.

I'm sure we all have lingering things, but being a heavy golfer with a bad back SUCKS

 

[RoxSolid]

Good news - having just started playing in August of 14, my goal this year was to be breaking 100 consistently by July and to be in the low 90s by year end. My six rounds this year have been : 105-102-98-92-95-95, so my last four rounds have averaged 95. I'm really striking my irons well and my chipping has been the best part of my game.

Bad News - putting in still very inconsistent. I also can't drive the ball. I had a few inches cut off my driver to try to gain more control and I limited my slice this weekend by doing so, but I am just not catching the ball on the sweet spot enough - probably only twice per round. When I hit it solid, I can get it out there 220 ish, but usually when I don't I am only hitting it 170-180, which generally leaves me 180-200 yards to the green depending on the hole. Sets me up for a lot of bogeys.

Bender - can you send me your guys contact info - I'd love to have him take a look at me.

 

[Apple Jack]

Was supposed to golf with another FBG Sunday...

Tweaked my back - probably from hitting so many balls at the range.

####ty to be a big golfer and always have back problems. I get this "pre-back thrown out" pain that takes away any ability to put weight on my back. If I put any pressure, the back goes out for 3-5 days and I can't move at all.

I'm sure we all have lingering things, but being a heavy golfer with a bad back SUCKS

banging balls at the rate you do is only going to accelerate repetitive issues and drastically increase the risk of tweaks. chill bromigo!

ETA: Congrats Rox!!

 

[John Bender]

Was supposed to golf with another FBG Sunday...

Tweaked my back - probably from hitting so many balls at the range.

####ty to be a big golfer and always have back problems. I get this "pre-back thrown out" pain that takes away any ability to put weight on my back. If I put any pressure, the back goes out for 3-5 days and I can't move at all.

I'm sure we all have lingering things, but being a heavy golfer with a bad back SUCKS

banging balls at the rate you do is only going to accelerate repetitive issues and drastically increase the risk of tweaks. chill bromigo!

Definitely. Learned my lesson. Haven't hit the range in 5 days. Having withdrawals

 

[urbanhack]

Was supposed to golf with another FBG Sunday...

Tweaked my back - probably from hitting so many balls at the range.

####ty to be a big golfer and always have back problems. I get this "pre-back thrown out" pain that takes away any ability to put weight on my back. If I put any pressure, the back goes out for 3-5 days and I can't move at all.

I'm sure we all have lingering things, but being a heavy golfer with a bad back SUCKS

banging balls at the rate you do is only going to accelerate repetitive issues and drastically increase the risk of tweaks. chill bromigo!

Definitely. Learned my lesson. Haven't hit the range in 5 days. Having withdrawals

going forward, spend 80% of your practice time hitting wedges and on the putting green.

:brokenrecord:

 

[gianmarco]

Was supposed to golf with another FBG Sunday...

Tweaked my back - probably from hitting so many balls at the range.

####ty to be a big golfer and always have back problems. I get this "pre-back thrown out" pain that takes away any ability to put weight on my back. If I put any pressure, the back goes out for 3-5 days and I can't move at all.

I'm sure we all have lingering things, but being a heavy golfer with a bad back SUCKS

Without knowing the specifics of your back stuff but knowing about back pain in general (especially personally), you may want to make sure you are stretching your hamstrings. Tight hamstrings can lead to lots of back pain and muscle tightness and once those hamstrings are stretched, it fixes everything else.

Just something to consider.

 

[Quint]

didn't get out last week, so this is on a two-week schedule:

44 Out

47 In

hit 7 fairways; 4 GIR (all on the back nine) and 29 putts.

had a good round going overall, until putting balls in water on #16 and #17 (triple, triple) and finished with a birdie on #18.

hit the driver pretty well overall. biggest problem was 4W/4H as both of those clubs got me in trouble on a couple of par 3s and par 5s. happy with putting, though disappointed with how the round fell apart near the end. want to chalk that up to lack of practice vs skill

[rant]

the foursome in front of us was brutal. this round clocked in at 4:45 and we waited an average of 5 minutes between shots on most holes. they had no clue about calling another group up on a Par 3, or a concept of pace of play on a course that was wide open in front of them.

i want to blame the long waits - especially on the back nine - on my round blowing up, but in reality i need to be more disciplined mentally and not let that bother me so much.

[/rant]

 

[Apple Jack]

Id have quit and informed the shop that they suck. Your job as a golf professional is not difficult. All anybody really cares about is that you keep an eye on pace of play. So many just blow it off and then when somebody complains they just say that's unfortunate blah blah blah. Horse####. Do your job sweater stacker.

 

[John Bender]

didn't get out last week, so this is on a two-week schedule:

44 Out

47 In

hit 7 fairways; 4 GIR (all on the back nine) and 29 putts.

had a good round going overall, until putting balls in water on #16 and #17 (triple, triple) and finished with a birdie on #18.

hit the driver pretty well overall. biggest problem was 4W/4H as both of those clubs got me in trouble on a couple of par 3s and par 5s. happy with putting, though disappointed with how the round fell apart near the end. want to chalk that up to lack of practice vs skill

[rant]

the foursome in front of us was brutal. this round clocked in at 4:45 and we waited an average of 5 minutes between shots on most holes. they had no clue about calling another group up on a Par 3, or a concept of pace of play on a course that was wide open in front of them.

i want to blame the long waits - especially on the back nine - on my round blowing up, but in reality i need to be more disciplined mentally and not let that bother me so much.

[/rant]

Pretty much an age old issue on golf courses. There really needs to be more marshalls rounding the course and checking on pace. Unfortunately, it's not something you see often anymore. I'd imagine it's due to not wanting to piss off paying customers.

 

[belljr]

I am putting lights out the last 2 rounds...

 

[John Bender]

I am putting lights out the last 2 rounds...

Nice - any change to normal routine? Inquiring minds wanna know.

 

[belljr]

I am putting lights out the last 2 rounds...

Nice - any change to normal routine? Inquiring minds wanna know.

nope just starting to get comfortable with my new putter.the one thing I have always done well my entire life is putt. I used to be a scramble commodity. My 2 best parts of my game when I was younger was driving and putting.

now I just show up and play. So I can't be too mad

 

[John Bender]

I am putting lights out the last 2 rounds...

Nice - any change to normal routine? Inquiring minds wanna know.

nope just starting to get comfortable with my new putter.the one thing I have always done well my entire life is putt. I used to be a scramble commodity. My 2 best parts of my game when I was younger was driving and putting.

now I just show up and play. So I can't be too mad

It's funny - the "spend most of your time spending chipping and putting" is so hard to comprehend, but so true.

I spent more time and money learning to hit the driver properly than anything else..

However, I have a friend that is a fantastic golfer and always has been. He's 5'10" and about 140 lbs. He is better than every one of the group of 10-12 of us I golf with from back home.

Any time he hits a bad approach shot he simply shrugs and says "no problem, I'll get it up and down". And he does...almost every single time. And he is, by far, the best golfer in my group. He hits his driver 250 MAYBE....rarely is it straight down the fairway, however he knocks it close from <50 yards and makes his putts more consistently than anyone.

I think AJ may be onto something

I make my bones by being asked onto scramble teams because I hit the driver straighter and longer than my group of friends...I'm just a mess with every shot otherwise. Might be a good wake up call/correlation to why I always miss at least 2 months every season with back problems.

I need to learn it's golf and not a #### measuring contest.

 

[belljr]

The saying drive for show putt for dough is actually true

That's what drives me nuts chipping and putting I'm ok.

but something needing loft from 10 to 50 I'm a mess. It's all mental now

if I couldn't putt I'd easily be 3 shots higher hcp

 

[John Bender]

The saying drive for show putt for dough is actually true

That's what drives me nuts chipping and putting I'm ok.

but something needing loft from 10 to 50 I'm a mess. It's all mental now

WAtch any of the Jim Furyk tutorial videos out there on youtube my friend. Guy has a great way of explaining things. ("Putting with loft" is his key phrase and always helps when I line up for a chip or pitch)

If you want, my coach/buddy also has his lectures on youtube - PM me and I'll send you the links.

Not saying I actually follow the advice myself, but it takes a really great teacher to help with <50 yards stuff, not a really great golfer IMO.

 

[John Bender]

Sent over the vids bell.

Keep us posted.

 

[urbanhack]

I am putting lights out the last 2 rounds...

Nice - any change to normal routine? Inquiring minds wanna know.

nope just starting to get comfortable with my new putter.the one thing I have always done well my entire life is putt. I used to be a scramble commodity. My 2 best parts of my game when I was younger was driving and putting.

now I just show up and play. So I can't be too mad

I know putting is technical, but I think it's more of a mindset. I've always used a blade or a heel shafted putter because I grew up watching Crenshaw and always wanted to putt like him.

 

[Quint]

The saying drive for show putt for dough is actually true

That's what drives me nuts chipping and putting I'm ok.

but something needing loft from 10 to 50 I'm a mess. It's all mental now

if I couldn't putt I'd easily be 3 shots higher hcp

Drive for show, #####-slap your hoe.

:soracist:

:hiding:

 

[heckmanm]

didn't get out last week, so this is on a two-week schedule:

44 Out

47 In

hit 7 fairways; 4 GIR (all on the back nine) and 29 putts.

had a good round going overall, until putting balls in water on #16 and #17 (triple, triple) and finished with a birdie on #18.

hit the driver pretty well overall. biggest problem was 4W/4H as both of those clubs got me in trouble on a couple of par 3s and par 5s. happy with putting, though disappointed with how the round fell apart near the end. want to chalk that up to lack of practice vs skill

[rant]

the foursome in front of us was brutal. this round clocked in at 4:45 and we waited an average of 5 minutes between shots on most holes. they had no clue about calling another group up on a Par 3, or a concept of pace of play on a course that was wide open in front of them.

i want to blame the long waits - especially on the back nine - on my round blowing up, but in reality i need to be more disciplined mentally and not let that bother me so much.

[/rant]

Pretty much an age old issue on golf courses. There really needs to be more marshalls rounding the course and checking on pace. Unfortunately, it's not something you see often anymore. I'd imagine it's due to not wanting to piss off paying customers.

Yet, by not pissing off 4 paying customers they end up pissing off 40 paying customers behind them.

 

[urbanhack]

Playing disc golf this weekend

 

[urbanhack]

BTW...does anyone here use TeeOff.com to book tee times? If not, take a look and see if there are any courses in your area you want to play. Shoot me a PM and I can probably get you an additional 25% off their Deal times through some connections I have.

 

[Apple Jack]

didn't get out last week, so this is on a two-week schedule:

44 Out

47 In

hit 7 fairways; 4 GIR (all on the back nine) and 29 putts.

had a good round going overall, until putting balls in water on #16 and #17 (triple, triple) and finished with a birdie on #18.

hit the driver pretty well overall. biggest problem was 4W/4H as both of those clubs got me in trouble on a couple of par 3s and par 5s. happy with putting, though disappointed with how the round fell apart near the end. want to chalk that up to lack of practice vs skill

[rant]

the foursome in front of us was brutal. this round clocked in at 4:45 and we waited an average of 5 minutes between shots on most holes. they had no clue about calling another group up on a Par 3, or a concept of pace of play on a course that was wide open in front of them.

i want to blame the long waits - especially on the back nine - on my round blowing up, but in reality i need to be more disciplined mentally and not let that bother me so much.

[/rant]

Pretty much an age old issue on golf courses. There really needs to be more marshalls rounding the course and checking on pace. Unfortunately, it's not something you see often anymore. I'd imagine it's due to not wanting to piss off paying customers.

Yet, by not pissing off 4 paying customers they end up pissing off 40 paying customers behind them.

yep. a lot of them just avoid confrontation unless it comes to them and then they'll just sympathize with you while doing nothing about it.