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mr roboto
Footballguy
No. Never got into club/tourney etc.. I played HS golf tourneys but obviously not handicapped.
I just like playing different courses, different days.
Quint
Footballguy
3.28.16
Out - 45
In - 46
pretty windy day at the local track, though it didn't make that much difference in scoring. highlights/lowlights:
- hit a whopping 3/14 fairways, and 1/4 Par 3s
- had 4 GIR (and three-jacked one of those from about 25')
- 33 putts
- no birdies
- made double on 3/4 Par 5s
- [literally] topped three drives in a row on the front 9
looking over the stats it's pretty clear: i'm an abosolute mess off the tee, am pretty decent at scrambling, and the most consistent part of my game is putting (3-whack aside). the back 9 yesterday was going ok, until i pumped one OB on #17 and took a triple. current index at 16.4.
Out - 45
In - 46
pretty windy day at the local track, though it didn't make that much difference in scoring. highlights/lowlights:
- hit a whopping 3/14 fairways, and 1/4 Par 3s
- had 4 GIR (and three-jacked one of those from about 25')
- 33 putts
- no birdies
- made double on 3/4 Par 5s
- [literally] topped three drives in a row on the front 9
looking over the stats it's pretty clear: i'm an abosolute mess off the tee, am pretty decent at scrambling, and the most consistent part of my game is putting (3-whack aside). the back 9 yesterday was going ok, until i pumped one OB on #17 and took a triple. current index at 16.4.
Played in a member-guest last Friday. 36 two-man teams. Each member played the hole, lowest score between the two players was recorded. With our handicaps, we got one stroke/hole and two on one of the par-5s. Max score of double-bogey net.
I shot 110 and my partner shot 99, and that was being generous. There were a couple of holes where one of us picked up after reaching triple bogey. Our first hole was a complete disaster - #16, long par-5 with lots of water. He put his tee shot into the water on the right and I put mine behind some trees. We both put a 2nd ball into the water fronting the green. I'm sure the two guys were were paired with thought we'd never played before. Recording 10s on the opening hole was not a good way to start. We played holes 1-9 in 31 net but 10-18 in 38 net for a total of 69. Net 63 won our flight with two 64s in 2nd/3rd. I only hit driver off the tee a couple of times. Course management was good, I just hit bad shots including two in the water from 75 yards away.
He played the same course on Sunday and shot 94. I played a much easier course and shot 89, including a personal-best 8 pars. It's the easiest of any courses I routinely play and the only one on which I've broken 90.
I shot 110 and my partner shot 99, and that was being generous. There were a couple of holes where one of us picked up after reaching triple bogey. Our first hole was a complete disaster - #16, long par-5 with lots of water. He put his tee shot into the water on the right and I put mine behind some trees. We both put a 2nd ball into the water fronting the green. I'm sure the two guys were were paired with thought we'd never played before. Recording 10s on the opening hole was not a good way to start. We played holes 1-9 in 31 net but 10-18 in 38 net for a total of 69. Net 63 won our flight with two 64s in 2nd/3rd. I only hit driver off the tee a couple of times. Course management was good, I just hit bad shots including two in the water from 75 yards away.
He played the same course on Sunday and shot 94. I played a much easier course and shot 89, including a personal-best 8 pars. It's the easiest of any courses I routinely play and the only one on which I've broken 90.
ydoc
Footballguy
it is amazing to me how between saturday and monday the driver goes completely away...
89 on saturday (8 pars and 4 7's)
monday starts off great with a par on #1...then 4 straight double bogeys...hit one fairway all day...97
i'm thinking about going up to a 2 day john jacobs school...any thoughts on programs like that
89 on saturday (8 pars and 4 7's)
monday starts off great with a par on #1...then 4 straight double bogeys...hit one fairway all day...97
i'm thinking about going up to a 2 day john jacobs school...any thoughts on programs like that
I'm doing something like that at the end of June. Monte Scheinblum is doing a 3-day clinic in Fort Worth, 9-4 on Sat/Sun with 18 holes on Monday. It'll cover short/long game, FlightScope, group and individual instruction, mental approach. It's likely to be far more information than I can handle in a short period of time. Others who have done one of his clinics strongly suggest taking notes.
I think something like a 2-day or 3-day school would be a good way to get a lot of information quickly. Take lots of notes and try to remember as much as you can.
ydoc
Footballguy
tommyboy
Footballguy
Personally think this is the wrong approach to golf.
Golf isn't a science/textbook game. It's a feel/confidence/strategy game.
Overloading your mind with info=bad
Mastering the basics through practice and more importantly, playing live rounds =good.
If you want to be an 80's player, master putting and chipping around the green. Spend virtually all of your practice time on these two skills.
If you want to be a 70's player, work on hitting fairways. Get a consistent driver swing. Don't worry about distance. Also work a lot on 60-100 yd sand wedge shots.
If you want to be a low single digit handicap that occasionally shoots 69-70, improve your bunker game, refine your irons and improve your putting from 5-15 ft.
You'll get more from playing a lot than blasting balls at the range, over time. You'll learn how to manage the game and the course.
Don't get caught up in tons of lessons, instructions, books etc. All it does is clutter your mind, many times with contradictory information. Play a lot. When you identify a nagging issue in your swing, see one guy, a seasoned pro, tell him you don't want to revamp your swing but you want help with the issue. Always go back to that guy.
Keep playing, have fun.
Quint
Footballguy
just an update:
finally got out last week and played the Snell MTBs -
Distance: as long, or longer, than the e6, QStar, and NXT i'd been playing from the tee and with irons
Spin: a noticeable difference on full shots from the fairway....ball stopped on a dime (i.e. within inches of the pitch-mark) and there seemed to be less run-out on pitches/chips from around the green...not quite as "straight" as the e6 in terms of being able to work the ball left/right
Feel: good feegack off the clubface with every club...not a rock, and not too soft...
Putting: this is the one area i couldn't dial in, and had a hard time judging distance on long(er) putts. granted, it could have been me sucking at putting, but i just didn't feel super-confident over the ball on the green.
overall, i'd say i'm a buyer going forward. still need to play with the MTB on my local track (played CC golf for the last round) and see how it does when i'm playing more bump-and-run approaches. only downside i can see is having to order direct from the factory in MA, since this isn't available at the pro shop or local big-box golf stores.
Dark Matter
Footballguy
Dark Matter
Footballguy
F the USGA for taking away the belly putter. Really struggling to find a suitable replacement and new stroke. I took the the TaylorMade Monza Corza and cut it down, put a Super Stroke grip on it and just can't seem to get the same tempo/feel I had when I was hinging it. I feel like Ernie on every putt now. 
chet
Footballguy
I was but stopped after 10. I was running a fever and feeling like death and hadn't hit a decent shot since the 7th hole. I almost put a ball into Lionel Ritchie's pool.
OK not really but I was on the right side. Great course and place.I will play there many more times as my friend just joined.
Hooper31
Footballguy
Shot 79 back to back days. Big deal for me as I've only broke 80 a handful of times. First course was super easy with low slope rating. 2nd day however was my home course with a 128 rating. First time I've broken 80 on that course. Birdie on 18 to make it happen after five consecutive boags on back nine. Great feeling.
Ball striking improving a lot this spring. Key thoughts for me are staying on plane and using forward weight shift to make sure I'm getting ball and then ground with irons. 3W and driver off the tee are similar in terms of weight shift, but getting full turn on the way back with image of right hip firing out through the ball helping quit a bit too.
Last thought. Golf here in the Pacific Northwest is a bit different than it is in other areas. I get to play 12 months out of the year, but there are some drawbacks. I spend all winter watching drives plug in fairways, but that lasts well into spring as well. Carrying the driver and 3W long off the tee only to have the ball slam on the brakes is super frustrating at times. Nearly 70 degrees out yesterday, but still a bit muddy in the fairways. Had a 425 yard par four yesterday. Carry driver 250. Have 175 left to green because I had to dig ball out of the fairway. Ugh.
Ball striking improving a lot this spring. Key thoughts for me are staying on plane and using forward weight shift to make sure I'm getting ball and then ground with irons. 3W and driver off the tee are similar in terms of weight shift, but getting full turn on the way back with image of right hip firing out through the ball helping quit a bit too.
Last thought. Golf here in the Pacific Northwest is a bit different than it is in other areas. I get to play 12 months out of the year, but there are some drawbacks. I spend all winter watching drives plug in fairways, but that lasts well into spring as well. Carrying the driver and 3W long off the tee only to have the ball slam on the brakes is super frustrating at times. Nearly 70 degrees out yesterday, but still a bit muddy in the fairways. Had a 425 yard par four yesterday. Carry driver 250. Have 175 left to green because I had to dig ball out of the fairway. Ugh.
RUSF18
Footballguy
First round of the season yesterday, Wild Turkey at Crystal Springs Resort in NJ. They had just aerated the greens and I've never seen worse. Just a tremendous amount of sand.
48 out, 43 in. I shot an 8 on the 9th that was the eyesore in the middle of a nice stretch of 6 pars. Just couldn't get out of a bunker on that one. Without that, and with more normal greens, I would have had my best round ever.
48 out, 43 in. I shot an 8 on the 9th that was the eyesore in the middle of a nice stretch of 6 pars. Just couldn't get out of a bunker on that one. Without that, and with more normal greens, I would have had my best round ever.
tommyboy
Footballguy
Hooper31
Footballguy
Hooper31
Footballguy
A lot like Portland, but with a touch more rain and few degrees colder. Where do you play mostly in Portland?
tommyboy
Footballguy
Heron Lakes, Rose City, Eastmoreland, Reserve, Stone Creek. sometimes go to The OGA course in woodburn, and Chehalem Glen in newberg both good courses just a bit of a drive.
i haven't played this year, since November, in Portland. I played a scramble in San Antonio 3 weeks ago and actually hit the ball well so i'm excited to get out there and swing but i've been sick and otherwise busy the last 2 weeks.
Hooper31
Footballguy
There's a guy in your area named Dan McLaughlin that started a project called TheDanPlan. He was going to invest 10,000 dedicated hours (concept that Malcolm Gladwell proposed) into golf to see he could become a pro after having zero experience. I know he was using Heron Lakes as a practice facility for a good portion of his project. I was following his progress via his blog before he just vanished this past fall. He was struggling with back issues, but didn't seem like he would just throw in the towel without throwing something on his blog. His handicap was well into the low single digits around 5,000 hours in, and then nothing for the past few months.
Zow
Footballguy
You're missing out. Tourneys ####### rule. And they're even better when handicaps are done correctly/fairly.
ydoc
Footballguy
Hooper31
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Brendon1215
Footballguy
Sold my clubs about two years ago, but I'm really getting the itch to play again. Might have to make the investment this year.
Quint
Footballguy
4.18.16
Out - 43
In - 45
four fairways hit, 3 GIR, 31 putts. lost ball on #1, water on #10 and OB on #12 and #15. was really happy with bogey golf on the back nine with that many penalty strokes. probably hit the driver as good as i have in the last 10 months. trying to change from a power fade to a draw had my alignment mixed up for a while, but really making good contact with most drives consistently 250-260. had a run of three pars in a row on the front nine, and the short game was above average. didn't make a birdie putt, and had a couple of chances inside 15'. struggled with hybrid and fairway wood, so that's something else to work on.
5.5 hour round, playing behind a Ladies Tournament. aside from having to wait approximately 5 minutes on every hole, it was a pretty good day.
Out - 43
In - 45
four fairways hit, 3 GIR, 31 putts. lost ball on #1, water on #10 and OB on #12 and #15. was really happy with bogey golf on the back nine with that many penalty strokes. probably hit the driver as good as i have in the last 10 months. trying to change from a power fade to a draw had my alignment mixed up for a while, but really making good contact with most drives consistently 250-260. had a run of three pars in a row on the front nine, and the short game was above average. didn't make a birdie putt, and had a couple of chances inside 15'. struggled with hybrid and fairway wood, so that's something else to work on.
5.5 hour round, playing behind a Ladies Tournament. aside from having to wait approximately 5 minutes on every hole, it was a pretty good day.
Skoo
Footballguy
I apologize if this has been covered, but any tips for a BRAND NEW golfer?
I've literally never played a round of golf. Hit balls at the driving range a few times, went out with my dad on Sunday. Probably the first time in 5 years I've (tried to) hit a ball. After a while I got some solid shots in, I must admit it does feel good to hit one right.
Been watching a few Youtube videos on how to swing, grip the club, etc. But I figured if there's any really good videos/websites that would be a big help.
Never had much of an interest in golf, but I'm getting old (turn 34 next week) so I figure maybe this is a sport I can still excel at!
Thanks for any info!
I've literally never played a round of golf. Hit balls at the driving range a few times, went out with my dad on Sunday. Probably the first time in 5 years I've (tried to) hit a ball. After a while I got some solid shots in, I must admit it does feel good to hit one right.
Been watching a few Youtube videos on how to swing, grip the club, etc. But I figured if there's any really good videos/websites that would be a big help.
Never had much of an interest in golf, but I'm getting old (turn 34 next week) so I figure maybe this is a sport I can still excel at!
Thanks for any info!
Quint
Footballguy
i'd say start with a lesson, or probably better, a series of lessons. you'll want to get the fundamentals (such as they are) down before you start picking up bad habits that can be more difficult to fix. lessons from a PGA professional can be expensive, so check if your local Muni offers any kind of free/low cost clinics. also, sometimes the local community college will offer a beginning golf class during the summer session...might be worthwhile if you have the time and it fits your schedule. further, you can always go to the local Muni and just practice putting anytime, and it's free. putting is probably one of the easier skills to practice, and there's plenty of basic info out there on the interwebz to get you started.
assuming you have clubs, but if not just start with a used set. no need to pony up for a brand new bag of sticks unless you have real FBG money. same thing with balls: you can find decent "pre-owned" balls online at good prices. as a beginner you'll probably not notice much difference in how they play, and you're gonna lose your fair share as you learn the game. keep playing with your dad or friends who know more about the game, and you'll learn about rules, course etiquette, speed of play, etc. - these are all things you'll need to know if you become more serious about the game.
GL and have fun.
belljr
Footballguy
I say this with all due respect, you may already follow this.
Play ready golf
Follow etiquette - don't walk in line, stand behind players, etc etc
Pick up after you've reached double par.
Don't spend all day lining up a double bogey putt or more. Sure get a quick read but you don't need to walk it from every angle. birdie, par putts sure.
Now as far as tips. They are all over the map. I was a big fan of harvey Penicks book and Ben Hogans but that was also after I knew what I was looking for.
Most golfers don't care if you are terrible, but do care if you are slow and or have no concept of etiquette.
ETA: You want to get better. Work on chipping and putting
lol ninjad
Play ready golf
Follow etiquette - don't walk in line, stand behind players, etc etc
Pick up after you've reached double par.
Don't spend all day lining up a double bogey putt or more. Sure get a quick read but you don't need to walk it from every angle. birdie, par putts sure.
Now as far as tips. They are all over the map. I was a big fan of harvey Penicks book and Ben Hogans but that was also after I knew what I was looking for.
Most golfers don't care if you are terrible, but do care if you are slow and or have no concept of etiquette.
ETA: You want to get better. Work on chipping and putting
lol ninjad
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Skoo
Footballguy
Thanks a lot guys!
My pops suggested getting a few lessons to start as well so I don't develop bad habits. I think he might even pony up for them as well
I'm a lefty but he actually got me an old set of clubs from a friend so I'm good there, just need to pick up a putter.
I have to admit, I'm such a beginner I don't even know half of what belljr posted lol. I get it though, my buddy said he wouldn't go out with me until I got decent because he doesn't wanna sit around watching me chasing balls all day. (insert one-liner here)
My pops suggested getting a few lessons to start as well so I don't develop bad habits. I think he might even pony up for them as well
I'm a lefty but he actually got me an old set of clubs from a friend so I'm good there, just need to pick up a putter.
I have to admit, I'm such a beginner I don't even know half of what belljr posted lol. I get it though, my buddy said he wouldn't go out with me until I got decent because he doesn't wanna sit around watching me chasing balls all day. (insert one-liner here)
Quint
Footballguy
tl;dr version of belljr's post: it's ok to suck, just play fast. and that doesn't mean you have to run to your ball or anything like that, just be prepared to hit the ball when it's your turn, leave your bag between the green and the next tee box, don't spend all day trying to figure out which way a putt will break when you're putting for a 9.Thanks a lot guys!
My pops suggested getting a few lessons to start as well so I don't develop bad habits. I think he might even pony up for them as well
I'm a lefty but he actually got me an old set of clubs from a friend so I'm good there, just need to pick up a putter.
I have to admit, I'm such a beginner I don't even know half of what belljr posted lol. I get it though, my buddy said he wouldn't go out with me until I got decent because he doesn't wanna sit around watching me chasing balls all day. (insert one-liner here)
it's good advice.
belljr
Footballguy
tl;dr version of belljr's post: it's ok to suck, just play fast. and that doesn't mean you have to run to your ball or anything like that, just be prepared to hit the ball when it's your turn, leave your bag between the green and the next tee box, don't spend all day trying to figure out which way a putt will break when you're putting for a 9.Thanks a lot guys!
My pops suggested getting a few lessons to start as well so I don't develop bad habits. I think he might even pony up for them as well
I'm a lefty but he actually got me an old set of clubs from a friend so I'm good there, just need to pick up a putter.
I have to admit, I'm such a beginner I don't even know half of what belljr posted lol. I get it though, my buddy said he wouldn't go out with me until I got decent because he doesn't wanna sit around watching me chasing balls all day. (insert one-liner here)
it's good advice.
To add. If you are in a cart. Dont' watch a guy hit. THen both drive to the next ball. Grab some clubs, walk to your ball with some clubs.
mr roboto
Footballguy
The 'line' is the space between someone's ball and the hole on the green. Don't step directly in someone's line. Your shoe can make small impressions on the ground screwing up their putt. Don't step in someone's putting line. Walk around their ball (behind it compared to where the hole is).
Skoo
Footballguy
I thought so, thanks for the clarification.
Just from reading this thread I can see how this becomes an obsession...I have a few friends that go all the time, some that never play. Been saying I want to learn the past few years but got married last summer, maybe this is the year.
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
Lots of good advice in here Skoo. Just to tail off of someone else's comment is you will stink for a while. Just don't be the guy on the course that blows a gasket when you top a ball, miss the ball, or blade it. Don't be afraid to pick up your drive and say I'll hit where your at while your learning.
Your going to do a lot bad shots, but I hate golfing with guys that expect to hit perfect shots all day and when they hit a bad one it is like pins and needles out there. Have fun and enjoy your time with your pops. You'll have a lot of good memories and stories.
Your going to do a lot bad shots, but I hate golfing with guys that expect to hit perfect shots all day and when they hit a bad one it is like pins and needles out there. Have fun and enjoy your time with your pops. You'll have a lot of good memories and stories.
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Johnnymac
Footballguy
This is great advice. There is nothing worse than playing with someone who thinks they are Tiger Woods but couldn't break 100 if their life depended on it. Then on top of it they blow a gasket on every crappy shot. I have been paired with people like this over the years and it makes for a very long day. No fun at all. Just relax and enjoy being out there.
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
Some other advice.
1. Even though you're new to the game, others in your group will probably appreciate if you gave them some unsolicited advice on how they can improve their swings. Mentioning what they're doing wrong "at the top" usually get special props.
2. Dress extremely well. The closer you look to Rickie Fowler, the better. Despite not being very good, others will appreciate that you took the time to look good.
3. If you hit a bad shot, blame the clubs. It's got nothing to do with your swing and people know that.
4. Use Titleist Pro V1s. You're not going to get better until you spend at least $4 per ball.
5. Swear a lot and get angry when you hit a poor shot. Your intensity will raise the level of play of everyone else.
1. Even though you're new to the game, others in your group will probably appreciate if you gave them some unsolicited advice on how they can improve their swings. Mentioning what they're doing wrong "at the top" usually get special props.
2. Dress extremely well. The closer you look to Rickie Fowler, the better. Despite not being very good, others will appreciate that you took the time to look good.
3. If you hit a bad shot, blame the clubs. It's got nothing to do with your swing and people know that.
4. Use Titleist Pro V1s. You're not going to get better until you spend at least $4 per ball.
5. Swear a lot and get angry when you hit a poor shot. Your intensity will raise the level of play of everyone else.
Mookie
Footballguy
Playing quickly is SOOOO important. Figure out a quick routine to pick out a target to aim at, take a practice swing to get loose (not a 30 second slow as molasses high finish stare at the ball in imaginary flight dress rehearsal), hit the ball, watch and take note of where it goes so you can find it again, repeat.
3 rules for a decent swing are (1) keep your head down; (2) Keep Your Head Down; and (3) KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN!
Focus on hitting the ball solidly and not as hard as you can. Swing at 75% with a limited backswing with the goal of making solid contact with the back of the ball. The golf swing is more about timing than strength, and the ball will usually go further if you use a controlled swing.
Get a few lessons and spend a lot of time at the range, hitting off natural grass if possible. Spend even more time on your chipping and putting. Learn the basic rules of golf and etiquette - I'm sure there are some great resources on the internet and YouTube.
Have fun!
3 rules for a decent swing are (1) keep your head down; (2) Keep Your Head Down; and (3) KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN!
Focus on hitting the ball solidly and not as hard as you can. Swing at 75% with a limited backswing with the goal of making solid contact with the back of the ball. The golf swing is more about timing than strength, and the ball will usually go further if you use a controlled swing.
Get a few lessons and spend a lot of time at the range, hitting off natural grass if possible. Spend even more time on your chipping and putting. Learn the basic rules of golf and etiquette - I'm sure there are some great resources on the internet and YouTube.
Have fun!
My wife started playing golf about 18 months ago. Still hasn't broken 100 yet but she's getting better. She started with lessons and her instructor taught her a game he calls 5-shot for all of his beginners.
Start at some point in the fairway. For her, it was 200 yards from the hole on all par 4s and 5s. Hit from the tees on par-3s. You have 5 shots to put the ball in the hole, after which you pick up.
- If you get in the hole in 5 shots or less, you get 5 points
- If you're on the green in 5 shots, you get 3 points
- If you're near the green in 5 shots, you get 1 point
- If you're not near the green in 5 shots, you get 0 points
Swinging and missing counts as a shot. Max possible score for 18 holes is 90 points. After you can regularly score 63 points or higher, move back 50 yards. For my wife, that meant the forward (ladies) tees. If you start at 150 yards, you'd go back to 200 yards.
Here's his reasoning:
- Beginners aren't very good. It's not your fault, golf is a hard game - but it's likely going to take a while and lots of practice. You're not going to learn anything by getting a 12 on every hole and both you and your playing partners are going to get frustrated by the slow pace. Playing 5-shot allows you to play with other people without taking too long. There's still some pressure to 5-shot as well - if you have one more shot and you're not on the green, that's the difference between 1 point and 3 points, or maybe you have to sink a putt on your last shot to get 5 points instead of 3. You'll still likely get to putt once or twice on the green and it won't take forever to get there. For her, that meant she didn't get tired from swinging 140 times, and she can always practice hitting her driver at the driving range. She played 5-shot for about 6-9 months and has been playing from the forward tees since last fall. By starting with 5-shot, she was able to keep pace with other players and still have fun.
Start at some point in the fairway. For her, it was 200 yards from the hole on all par 4s and 5s. Hit from the tees on par-3s. You have 5 shots to put the ball in the hole, after which you pick up.
- If you get in the hole in 5 shots or less, you get 5 points
- If you're on the green in 5 shots, you get 3 points
- If you're near the green in 5 shots, you get 1 point
- If you're not near the green in 5 shots, you get 0 points
Swinging and missing counts as a shot. Max possible score for 18 holes is 90 points. After you can regularly score 63 points or higher, move back 50 yards. For my wife, that meant the forward (ladies) tees. If you start at 150 yards, you'd go back to 200 yards.
Here's his reasoning:
- Beginners aren't very good. It's not your fault, golf is a hard game - but it's likely going to take a while and lots of practice. You're not going to learn anything by getting a 12 on every hole and both you and your playing partners are going to get frustrated by the slow pace. Playing 5-shot allows you to play with other people without taking too long. There's still some pressure to 5-shot as well - if you have one more shot and you're not on the green, that's the difference between 1 point and 3 points, or maybe you have to sink a putt on your last shot to get 5 points instead of 3. You'll still likely get to putt once or twice on the green and it won't take forever to get there. For her, that meant she didn't get tired from swinging 140 times, and she can always practice hitting her driver at the driving range. She played 5-shot for about 6-9 months and has been playing from the forward tees since last fall. By starting with 5-shot, she was able to keep pace with other players and still have fun.
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
If you can learn to hit down on the ball, you will be better than 99% of hacks out there. 3/4 swing and hit down. Think of it as a ping-pong serve. Use the club as a paddle to hit the back of the ball into the ground. It's counterintuitive, but you don't need to lift the ball in the air. The loft of the club does that. You just need to ensure good contact by hitting down on it. Did I mention you need to hit down on it?
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