***Official 2025 Golf Thread,, woz humblebrags he's secretly a plus hcp*** (2 Viewers)

[Navin Johnson]

I was never really good, coiuldn't even break 90. Finally brought my clubs to Germany so I can hit. Have a range pass good til the end of the year, working mainly on short game, need to buy a SW and a LW. LH but RH dominant. Just marking this thread for future reference

You do NOT need to buy a lob wedge. For any reason.

Noted. I think I need something with more loft
than my PW though. Found a used 60* Vokey for sixty bucks but now having second thoughts.

 

[TLEF316]

I have a 60 but only use it out of the bunker(i have no idea how people hit full shots with it from the fairway). 56 is more than enough for most am golfers. Try out different bounces to see what works for you

 

[Zow]

I was never really good, coiuldn't even break 90. Finally brought my clubs to Germany so I can hit. Have a range pass good til the end of the year, working mainly on short game, need to buy a SW and a LW. LH but RH dominant. Just marking this thread for future reference

Speak to a fitter if that's something in your financial range, but if not I'd gently suggest considering a 54 degree and a 58 degree instead of the more traditional 52-56-60. Or just go with 52-56.

 

[Zow]

I was never really good, coiuldn't even break 90. Finally brought my clubs to Germany so I can hit. Have a range pass good til the end of the year, working mainly on short game, need to buy a SW and a LW. LH but RH dominant. Just marking this thread for future reference

You do NOT need to buy a lob wedge. For any reason.

Noted. I think I need something with more loft
than my PW though. Found a used 60* Vokey for sixty bucks but now having second thoughts.

For sure. But I'd gently suggest sticking with wedges with lofts with the first digit being a 5 in front of it.

I believe I carry 47 (PW) - 50 (gap or A wedge) - 54 - 58

 

[shadrap]

Well, I went out almost immediate afterwards - because I was feeling great - and played our A player in a cash game from the tips (the 69 was from the regular men's tees). Shot an 81 and only made one birdie and lost $150. Told the player (he's my BIL and a regular playing partner of mine) that I felt taken advantage of.

Trilogy is the course we played, right? If so, that's a tremendous score!

Yes, we played Trilogy. The day we played you were flawless with the driver & mid irons. Anything below 100 yards in & you had some hiccups. You still shot 77. I had 79. Think you had to meet a client in jail after. LOL

 

[Zow]

Well, I went out almost immediate afterwards - because I was feeling great - and played our A player in a cash game from the tips (the 69 was from the regular men's tees). Shot an 81 and only made one birdie and lost $150. Told the player (he's my BIL and a regular playing partner of mine) that I felt taken advantage of.

Trilogy is the course we played, right? If so, that's a tremendous score!

Yes, we played Trilogy. The day we played you were flawless with the driver & mid irons. Anything below 100 yards in & you had some hiccups. You still shot 77. I had 79. Think you had to meet a client in jail after. LOL

Great times!

 

[Instinctive]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

 

[TLEF316]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

If he's a member somewhere else, the expectation is that he would obviously invite you in return.

If that's not the case, I feel like the standard is the host pays the guest fees and the guest maybe pays for lunch or drinks afterwards. But honestly, most of the time I bring a guest and they ask "what do I owe?" it always just ends up with them forcing 100 bucks into my hand to cover it.

The one time i got invited to Baltusrol by my dad's former partner, my brother and I were just asked to pay our caddy fee. But to be fair, that guy has been a member there for 50 years and they don't actually make him pay for his golf anymore (plus he has 9 figures in the bank)

 

[Instinctive]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

If he's a member somewhere else, the expectation is that he would obviously invite you in return.

If that's not the case, I feel like the standard is the host pays the guest fees and the guest maybe pays for lunch or drinks afterwards. But honestly, most of the time I bring a guest and they ask "what do I owe?" it always just ends up with them forcing 100 bucks into my hand to cover it.

The one time i got invited to Baltusrol by my dad's former partner, my brother and I were just asked to pay our caddy fee. But to be fair, that guy has been a member there for 50 years and they don't actually make him pay for his golf anymore (plus he has 9 figures in the bank)

Sorry. I'm not a member anywhere and I'm being invited. Was just trying to share there's a slight power dynamic work wise.

 

[TLEF316]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

If he's a member somewhere else, the expectation is that he would obviously invite you in return.

If that's not the case, I feel like the standard is the host pays the guest fees and the guest maybe pays for lunch or drinks afterwards. But honestly, most of the time I bring a guest and they ask "what do I owe?" it always just ends up with them forcing 100 bucks into my hand to cover it.

The one time i got invited to Baltusrol by my dad's former partner, my brother and I were just asked to pay our caddy fee. But to be fair, that guy has been a member there for 50 years and they don't actually make him pay for his golf anymore (plus he has 9 figures in the bank)

Sorry. I'm not a member anywhere and I'm being invited. Was just trying to share there's a slight power dynamic work wise.

So yeah, I would say the expectation is that you ask "what do I owe" at the end. If he doesn't let you pay for the round, offer to pay for lunch.

And if you have a caddie, I'd try to pay for that as well.

It's a delicate balance though. Gotta ride that line of not looking like a free loader while also not outright rejecting his generosity (or possibly embarrass him at the club by inadvertently making him look cheap in front of other members or staff)

This is why I'm glad my friends aren't fancy.

 

[Instinctive]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

If he's a member somewhere else, the expectation is that he would obviously invite you in return.

If that's not the case, I feel like the standard is the host pays the guest fees and the guest maybe pays for lunch or drinks afterwards. But honestly, most of the time I bring a guest and they ask "what do I owe?" it always just ends up with them forcing 100 bucks into my hand to cover it.

The one time i got invited to Baltusrol by my dad's former partner, my brother and I were just asked to pay our caddy fee. But to be fair, that guy has been a member there for 50 years and they don't actually make him pay for his golf anymore (plus he has 9 figures in the bank)

Sorry. I'm not a member anywhere and I'm being invited. Was just trying to share there's a slight power dynamic work wise.

So yeah, I would say the expectation is that you ask "what do I owe" at the end. If he doesn't let you pay for the round, offer to pay for lunch.

And if you have a caddie, I'd try to pay for that as well.

It's a delicate balance though. Gotta ride that line of not looking like a free loader while also not outright rejecting his generosity (or possibly embarrass him at the club by inadvertently making him look cheap in front of other members or staff)

This is why I'm glad my friends aren't fancy.

Hahaha yeah I find it so awkward. I'll have to try and research the club to identify appropriate caddie tips and stuff too. World is complicated sometimes.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

If he's a member somewhere else, the expectation is that he would obviously invite you in return.

If that's not the case, I feel like the standard is the host pays the guest fees and the guest maybe pays for lunch or drinks afterwards. But honestly, most of the time I bring a guest and they ask "what do I owe?" it always just ends up with them forcing 100 bucks into my hand to cover it.

The one time i got invited to Baltusrol by my dad's former partner, my brother and I were just asked to pay our caddy fee. But to be fair, that guy has been a member there for 50 years and they don't actually make him pay for his golf anymore (plus he has 9 figures in the bank)

Sorry. I'm not a member anywhere and I'm being invited. Was just trying to share there's a slight power dynamic work wise.

So yeah, I would say the expectation is that you ask "what do I owe" at the end. If he doesn't let you pay for the round, offer to pay for lunch.

And if you have a caddie, I'd try to pay for that as well.

It's a delicate balance though. Gotta ride that line of not looking like a free loader while also not outright rejecting his generosity (or possibly embarrass him at the club by inadvertently making him look cheap in front of other members or staff)

This is why I'm glad my friends aren't fancy.

This can be tough Usually the caddie fee is all you owe. You can offer to cover the hosts caddie and lunch, but usually they turn it down. And you should spend a bit of $s in the golf shop out of courtesy to the club. Shirt, hat, whatever. The goal would be to reciprocate them at your club if you can. If not, send them a bottle of something to potentially get a second invite.

My friends and I have a deal. First time we invite you, we cover everything. From then on you have to pay the host back the accompanied guest fee, and cover your own caddie fee. We do this to encourage each other to host, and the guest might even bring a friend or two. Otherwise the host is looking at $300/person * 3 guests + lunch = about $1K each time you host at a top club. Maybe $450 total at a mid tier club. Heck, at a couple of clubs the total is gonna come to like $2500 a day (ie Seminole, Cypress).

Despite being a golf snob, one reason I joined where I have is I don't want caddies required. Even with guests. I get why clubs do it. But I can carry my own thanks, or we can ride. It's more enjoyable for me without the extra bodies in the group.

 

[3 hour lunch]

Just got back from Kiawah. Ocean course kicked my ###, shot 90. 80 at the other two easier tracks. Sometimes I feel so lost with my irons, like I’ve never hit them before….

 

[Zow]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

1. If you invite, you likely cover the guest fee and he should buy your drinks and/or bring you a thank you gift of some sort.
2. If he requests, then he covers the guest fee and you cover drinks/food.

 

[blue42]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

Think of it in the same way as being invited to someone's house for a meal. You're not expected to pay for dinner. But it's nice to bring a gift for the host - bottle of wine, whisky, etc.

You're not able to sign for anything at his club, so grease both the caddies.

If you're a member somewhere, reciprocity is normal. If you're not a member somewhere, take said golfer out for dinner or send him a nice bottle of something with a hand written note.

 

[TLEF316]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

If he's a member somewhere else, the expectation is that he would obviously invite you in return.

If that's not the case, I feel like the standard is the host pays the guest fees and the guest maybe pays for lunch or drinks afterwards. But honestly, most of the time I bring a guest and they ask "what do I owe?" it always just ends up with them forcing 100 bucks into my hand to cover it.

The one time i got invited to Baltusrol by my dad's former partner, my brother and I were just asked to pay our caddy fee. But to be fair, that guy has been a member there for 50 years and they don't actually make him pay for his golf anymore (plus he has 9 figures in the bank)

Sorry. I'm not a member anywhere and I'm being invited. Was just trying to share there's a slight power dynamic work wise.

So yeah, I would say the expectation is that you ask "what do I owe" at the end. If he doesn't let you pay for the round, offer to pay for lunch.

And if you have a caddie, I'd try to pay for that as well.

It's a delicate balance though. Gotta ride that line of not looking like a free loader while also not outright rejecting his generosity (or possibly embarrass him at the club by inadvertently making him look cheap in front of other members or staff)

This is why I'm glad my friends aren't fancy.

This can be tough Usually the caddie fee is all you owe. You can offer to cover the hosts caddie and lunch, but usually they turn it down. And you should spend a bit of $s in the golf shop out of courtesy to the club. Shirt, hat, whatever. The goal would be to reciprocate them at your club if you can. If not, send them a bottle of something to potentially get a second invite.

My friends and I have a deal. First time we invite you, we cover everything. From then on you have to pay the host back the accompanied guest fee, and cover your own caddie fee. We do this to encourage each other to host, and the guest might even bring a friend or two. Otherwise the host is looking at $300/person * 3 guests + lunch = about $1K each time you host at a top club. Maybe $450 total at a mid tier club. Heck, at a couple of clubs the total is gonna come to like $2500 a day (ie Seminole, Cypress).

Despite being a golf snob, one reason I joined where I have is I don't want caddies required. Even with guests. I get why clubs do it. But I can carry my own thanks, or we can ride. It's more enjoyable for me without the extra bodies in the group.

Yeah, it would be hard for me to play every day at a course that requires a caddy. It's cool as a new experience at a place you don't know, but I feel like it would get annoying (and obviously expensive)at your every day track.

The nicest club in my area that I could actually just write a check and join (I'm 2 mins from Somerset Hills, but I don't expect an invite any time soon
) doesn't REQUIRE caddies...but they are "strongly suggested" unless you're going out after like 2 o'clock.

It's a very nice course ,but not crazy nice (borderline top 20 in the state) and thats just not my vibe. Plus it's not walkable, so I'm not sure what I'll do when I win the powerball.

 

[Instinctive]

Just got back from Kiawah. Ocean course kicked my ###, shot 90. 80 at the other two easier tracks. Sometimes I feel so lost with my irons, like I’ve never hit them before….

90! Nice work man. I shot 43/53 for 96 lol. It was beautiful though right?

 

[3 hour lunch]

Just got back from Kiawah. Ocean course kicked my ###, shot 90. 80 at the other two easier tracks. Sometimes I feel so lost with my irons, like I’ve never hit them before….

90! Nice work man. I shot 43/53 for 96 lol. It was beautiful though right?

Yeah, definitely enjoyed. Forecast looked pretty bad in the days leading up to it so was just glad to stay dry. 13-17 is just a brutal stretch, especially with all the wind…

 

[Zow]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

Think of it in the same way as being invited to someone's house for a meal. You're not expected to pay for dinner. But it's nice to bring a gift for the host - bottle of wine, whisky, etc.

You're not able to sign for anything at his club, so grease both the caddies.

If you're a member somewhere, reciprocity is normal. If you're not a member somewhere, take said golfer out for dinner or send him a nice bottle of something with a hand written note.

This all makes sense too.

For me, the key factors are: 1) Who invited whom?; and 2) Is the invitee a member elsewhere where reciprocity would make sense? As discussed, if you invited hm it's implied you cover most if not all the costs. If he's a member elsewhere, the expectation is you cover all costs and then he invites you to his club and does the same.

The stark difference for me is if somebody hits me up to play then he's covering the guest fee and at most I'm just taking care of drinks/food. The caveat here is if, again, reciprocity is implied. I recently had the club president of a much nicer club than mine hit me up to play my course next weekend and I'll cover his stuff because I hope he gets me benefits at his club, but I'm curious to see how he plays it because we know each other well but we aren't really friends or anything so he clearly is "using" me for a chance to play a private course in my area because he's up this way for something for his kid - making this much more of a business-like arrangement.

 

[Instinctive]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

Think of it in the same way as being invited to someone's house for a meal. You're not expected to pay for dinner. But it's nice to bring a gift for the host - bottle of wine, whisky, etc.

You're not able to sign for anything at his club, so grease both the caddies.

If you're a member somewhere, reciprocity is normal. If you're not a member somewhere, take said golfer out for dinner or send him a nice bottle of something with a hand written note.

This all makes sense too.

For me, the key factors are: 1) Who invited whom?; and 2) Is the invitee a member elsewhere where reciprocity would make sense? As discussed, if you invited hm it's implied you cover most if not all the costs. If he's a member elsewhere, the expectation is you cover all costs and then he invites you to his club and does the same.

The stark difference for me is if somebody hits me up to play then he's covering the guest fee and at most I'm just taking care of drinks/food. The caveat here is if, again, reciprocity is implied. I recently had the club president of a much nicer club than mine hit me up to play my course next weekend and I'll cover his stuff because I hope he gets me benefits at his club, but I'm curious to see how he plays it because we know each other well but we aren't really friends or anything so he clearly is "using" me for a chance to play a private course in my area because he's up this way for something for his kid - making this much more of a business-like arrangement.

These have all been very helpful.

I'm not a member anywhere. I'm a 14 HI, young, young family. This guy is part of the ELT (as am I, the newest member of the team) and we had our off-site and I met everyone for the first time. I was wearing a golf polo and he was like oh you golf that's awesome me too and then at the end of the night said "next time you come here, seriously, bring the clubs. We will go out to my club (he named it), and since you just drive down here anyway it's easy."

So it was genuine. I just want to be prepared not to mess it up like a dope newbie.

 

[Zow]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

Think of it in the same way as being invited to someone's house for a meal. You're not expected to pay for dinner. But it's nice to bring a gift for the host - bottle of wine, whisky, etc.

You're not able to sign for anything at his club, so grease both the caddies.

If you're a member somewhere, reciprocity is normal. If you're not a member somewhere, take said golfer out for dinner or send him a nice bottle of something with a hand written note.

This all makes sense too.

For me, the key factors are: 1) Who invited whom?; and 2) Is the invitee a member elsewhere where reciprocity would make sense? As discussed, if you invited hm it's implied you cover most if not all the costs. If he's a member elsewhere, the expectation is you cover all costs and then he invites you to his club and does the same.

The stark difference for me is if somebody hits me up to play then he's covering the guest fee and at most I'm just taking care of drinks/food. The caveat here is if, again, reciprocity is implied. I recently had the club president of a much nicer club than mine hit me up to play my course next weekend and I'll cover his stuff because I hope he gets me benefits at his club, but I'm curious to see how he plays it because we know each other well but we aren't really friends or anything so he clearly is "using" me for a chance to play a private course in my area because he's up this way for something for his kid - making this much more of a business-like arrangement.

These have all been very helpful.

I'm not a member anywhere. I'm a 14 HI, young, young family. This guy is part of the ELT (as am I, the newest member of the team) and we had our off-site and I met everyone for the first time. I was wearing a golf polo and he was like oh you golf that's awesome me too and then at the end of the night said "next time you come here, seriously, bring the clubs. We will go out to my club (he named it), and since you just drive down here anyway it's easy."

So it was genuine. I just want to be prepared not to mess it up like a dope newbie.

Ah, this actually helps. In this scenario, the inference is that he will pay the guest fee and probably set you up with food and beverage.* Assuming he does, and then even if he declines anything from you, I would send him a note and do some homework on his favorite bottle of liquor.


*I'd still suggest when you get there asking him where to pay your guest fee. He should decline. You should still then offer to cover a round or something unless he's adamant.


Now, if the scenario where different where you noticed he was wearing a shirt from a private club and you took it upon yourself to ask him if you can play as his guest, then you should be covering all of your expenses and offering to buy his drinks or food or something.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

I have a 60 but only use it out of the bunker(i have no idea how people hit full shots with it from the fairway). 56 is more than enough for most am golfers. Try out different bounces to see what works for you

love my 60 for everything 80 and in now, i can’t hit my 56 for **** which 2 months ago my game was the opposite. I hate golf, playing 3 times in the next 6 days

 

[blue42]

@Zow and other fancy country club members

Let's say you have a colleague who's a senior executive and doesn't really work for you but tangentially does. You find out you both like golf and invite him to play at your club.

What is the etiquette for things to pay for and/or bring?

Think of it in the same way as being invited to someone's house for a meal. You're not expected to pay for dinner. But it's nice to bring a gift for the host - bottle of wine, whisky, etc.

You're not able to sign for anything at his club, so grease both the caddies.

If you're a member somewhere, reciprocity is normal. If you're not a member somewhere, take said golfer out for dinner or send him a nice bottle of something with a hand written note.

This all makes sense too.

For me, the key factors are: 1) Who invited whom?; and 2) Is the invitee a member elsewhere where reciprocity would make sense? As discussed, if you invited hm it's implied you cover most if not all the costs. If he's a member elsewhere, the expectation is you cover all costs and then he invites you to his club and does the same.

The stark difference for me is if somebody hits me up to play then he's covering the guest fee and at most I'm just taking care of drinks/food. The caveat here is if, again, reciprocity is implied. I recently had the club president of a much nicer club than mine hit me up to play my course next weekend and I'll cover his stuff because I hope he gets me benefits at his club, but I'm curious to see how he plays it because we know each other well but we aren't really friends or anything so he clearly is "using" me for a chance to play a private course in my area because he's up this way for something for his kid - making this much more of a business-like arrangement.

this is 100% the etiquette in either situation. surely club president invites you over to his

 

[Zow]

I have a 60 but only use it out of the bunker(i have no idea how people hit full shots with it from the fairway). 56 is more than enough for most am golfers. Try out different bounces to see what works for you

love my 60 for everything 80 and in now, i can’t hit my 56 for **** which 2 months ago my game was the opposite. I hate golf, playing 3 times in the next 6 days

Have you tried a 50-54-58 loft dispersion?

 

[Instinctive]

I have a 60 but only use it out of the bunker(i have no idea how people hit full shots with it from the fairway). 56 is more than enough for most am golfers. Try out different bounces to see what works for you

love my 60 for everything 80 and in now, i can’t hit my 56 for **** which 2 months ago my game was the opposite. I hate golf, playing 3 times in the next 6 days

Have you tried a 50-54-58 loft dispersion?

This is what I use. It's money. I'm considering dropping the 50 even in favor of partial PW shots.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

I have a 60 but only use it out of the bunker(i have no idea how people hit full shots with it from the fairway). 56 is more than enough for most am golfers. Try out different bounces to see what works for you

love my 60 for everything 80 and in now, i can’t hit my 56 for **** which 2 months ago my game was the opposite. I hate golf, playing 3 times in the next 6 days

Have you tried a 50-54-58 loft dispersion?

I got a 50-56-60 and up until 2 months ago I was dialed for 100, 90, 80 but I hit 2 hosel rockets with the 56 and suddenly it's a mess. My biggest issue is that this year I decided to try and hit more 56 degree wedges out of bunkers, stupid, so I bought 12D instead of sticking to a 6/8M. Next trip to So Cal I'm going to gift my dad my newer 56 and take back my older one. I'm just good enough to notice things like bounce and get frustrated and yet not good enough to adapt

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Oahu Golf courses, I got a work trip toward the end of October and I'm going to make a point to play two to three times over the 4 days I'm there.

Has anyone played the Ko Olina course? I'm not sure if it's worth the money or not but it's going to be between that course and the navy marine golf course on my day of arrival (land at 11am)

Then the plan is to play the Royal Hawaiian golf course one day and the Kaneohe Klipper course on the final day. Turtle Bay is not an option but hoping for advice on another course I may be missing

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[Zow]

72-75 the last couple of days and I won a long drive contest Thursday.

Down to a 3 handicap. Going to start losing lots of money soon.

 

[shadrap]

72-75 the last couple of days and I won a long drive contest Thursday.

Down to a 3 handicap. Going to start losing lots of money soon.

LOL. yea you win on the way up and lose on the way down. 100% worth it.

 

[jb1020]

Just shot my best round of the season and best round in probably 10 years. 83. 41/42. One Double and one short par 4 (275) I absolutely blew. I drove it greenside and bladed my 15 yd chip into the lake.

37 putts. OMG. I always said I would work on my putting when I could consistently break 90. Its that time.

This was my first round with a new mini driver. I went with the Taylormade. I've had major driver issues lately. Just flat out can't rely on it. Most rounds I'll only hit 2 or 3 fairways. First round with the Mini I hit 50%. I don't know what magic it has, but I feel like I can swing it as hard as I want and its just perfectly balanced to where its squared up. I don't know. Could be just luck? Its early. But it feels so good. Distance are pretty much the same as my driver at this point. I could pipe one with my driver and it go 300, but average was about 265. Mini was all over that 265-275 range all round.

Anyone else use the stack system here? I just got it and have done a few sessions. I've done a couple of wedge sessions and only 1 putting session. I hope to wear that thing out this offseason.

 

[Truebluey]

This International Crown ladies "Ryder Cup" has been darn exciting!

USA in the final.