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I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
It's a crazy advantage. Most teams can't pay Snell $36m to make 11 regular season starts. The Dodgers paid him that knowing they were just going to (or at least could) keep him on ice until the playoffs.
Exactly - Dodgers fans should be embarrassed to have to cheer for a team that operates like this.
I really don't understand the players stance on the cap. Never mind, I do. The players that you hear chanting the loudest are the veteran players making above the top 5% in salaries. You don't hear much from the ones making league minimum and "barely scraping by" A cap with a salary floor would bring the lower salaries up while putting a cap on the high end salaries. Do these players really think they will have a realistic chance to make what some of the top 5% make. A union is supposed to look out for all of its members but the MLBPA seems concerned about the top tier and nothing else.
Yet MLB is seeing a rise in attendance and viewers. Guess they're not seeing the problem.
It almost has to be. It's like if Albert Pujols and Clayton Kershaw were merged into one player for a night. Unreal stuff.
Revenue sharing has to be a part of this, right? I know a billionaire owns the brewers but he can't just pay a 10 $700 million contract without some revenue. There is no way Milwaukee and the state of Wisconsin can compete with the available money from LA.
That is an example of 2 players <> a team. Not that it would have happened, but there were rumbles of Ohtani to Mariners for a short bit, but the same would have happened there. Probably 2 players and sucking. Teams like Yankees and Dodgers have the ability to have 10-15 of those types of guys.
I don't think it would be insurmountably complicated. And yes, if the Dodgers were still being run incompetently, this wouldn't be an issue, but now that they are a top 2-3 well-managed team in the league and have exponentially more resources than everyone else, it's going to cause a work stoppage.
Ownership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
He wanted to play there because they’d already spent mountains of money assembling a championship contender.Ownership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
Maybe he chose the Dodgers because LA is closer to Vegas than San FranciscoOwnership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
He had $700 million reasons to play in LAMaybe he chose the Dodgers because LA is closer to Vegas than San FranciscoOwnership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
So the winning culture that would be the same if there was a salary cap.He wanted to play there because they’d already spent mountains of money assembling a championship contender.Ownership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
Yep. You see a lot of arguments that the Dodgers aren't playing players out of their farm system (other than Kershaw, Smith, Sheehan, Rushing, Stone, Knack...)...but they also have built up trading Busch, Vargas, Outman...the list goes on. Dodgers develop, evaluate and cash in on talent better than other teams because they invest in their farm system and have personnel to do it.
I think the other $319 million in salaries helped build that winning culture that attracted him to the team.So the winning culture that would be the same if there was a salary cap.He wanted to play there because they’d already spent mountains of money assembling a championship contender.Ownership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
The Braves traded for Matt Olson and gave him 8/168 before Freeman signed with the Dodgers. They weren’t exactly being cheapskates there.
They got Olsen because they wouldn't sign Freeman for more than 3 years.
If every team offered him the same money and had the same cap, you think he would go to Cleveland or Pittsburgh?I think the other $319 million in salaries helped build that winning culture that attracted him to the team.So the winning culture that would be the same if there was a salary cap.He wanted to play there because they’d already spent mountains of money assembling a championship contender.Ownership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
Who knows, he might have considered other offers, especially from west coast teams, if other teams could argue they would be just as competitive for a WS title as the Dodgers were.If every team offered him the same money and had the same cap, you think he would go to Cleveland or Pittsburgh?I think the other $319 million in salaries helped build that winning culture that attracted him to the team.So the winning culture that would be the same if there was a salary cap.He wanted to play there because they’d already spent mountains of money assembling a championship contender.Ownership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
Detroit and Milwaukee also have very good farm systems as well and do a great job developing their own players. Look at the number of rookies that played a prominent role in the NLCS. The difference is Milwaukee can't trade those prospects because they need them to play at the major league level when their own players reach free agency. Los Angeles, on the other hand, can cash in on those prospects by trading them for big name stars, who other teams are forced to trade because they can't afford them due to economics.
The 1% rise is because they finally made good rule changes to make the games less boring. The Nomar (Pitch) Clock should have been put into place 15 years ago. Unless you enjoy watching them step out of the box and re-velcro their gloves after every pitch. Or miss more practice swings. Painstakingly slow stuff.Yet MLB is seeing a rise in attendance and viewers. Guess they're not seeing the problem.
The reasons why baseball ratings are improving
Temple University Professor Bryant Simon explains the reasons why baseball ratings are improving.news.temple.edu
Good points I suppose but my response wasn't about why viewership is up or how to progress it even more. Like the NFL they'll never play fewer games though. Would be nice to get the WS done well before Nov though.The 1% rise is because they finally made good rule changes to make the games less boring. The Nomar (Pitch) Clock should have been put into place 15 years ago. Unless you enjoy watching them step out of the box and re-velcro their gloves after every pitch. Or miss more practice swings. Painstakingly slow stuff.Yet MLB is seeing a rise in attendance and viewers. Guess they're not seeing the problem.
The reasons why baseball ratings are improving
Temple University Professor Bryant Simon explains the reasons why baseball ratings are improving.
They took a page out of Little League. Throw ball. Throw ball back. Throw ball again (and not to first).
Llimiting tea parties on the mound was good, too. And bigger bases didn't hurt.
More action, less down time. Brilliant, took long enough.
The best would be lowering the ridiculous 162 games played. [I hear that collective gasp, even louder from colder climes I presume.] I actually love that the Dodgers are making somewhat of a mockery of the regular season (and expanded playoffs, a joke after that long of a season) with their "load management". As they should.
The deferred income also played a role and is something Shohei is in a unique position to take advantage of. Make deferrment against the rules and he possibly looks at playing in a state with better tax implications for players. Or maybe his team evaluates the marketing potential in CA as EV+. Who knows.Ownership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
Ohtani's contract counts for $46M/yr for luxury tax purposes
I stand corrected. But my point is the same and I think that's going to be one of many issues that will likely cause a work stoppage.
Toronto offered him literally the same deal and are a game and a half away from the world series and in a superior country to boot.Who knows, he might have considered other offers, especially from west coast teams, if other teams could argue they would be just as competitive for a WS title as the Dodgers were.If every team offered him the same money and had the same cap, you think he would go to Cleveland or Pittsburgh?I think the other $319 million in salaries helped build that winning culture that attracted him to the team.So the winning culture that would be the same if there was a salary cap.He wanted to play there because they’d already spent mountains of money assembling a championship contender.Ownership like the Mariners would rather pocket the money from revenue sharing.I understand and echo most of this sentiment. As a Mariners fan hoping for them to get the chance to play in their first WS I say F 3 in a row for the Dodgers.
Never going to happen, but a min/max cap is what the sport needs for fans of the other 20 teams in the leagues whose teams aren't basically in the playoff hunt from day 1. Add that and a soccer style relagation system, and
If every team spent exactly the same amount of money, players would still gravitate to the Dodgers because of the quality of the organization, southern california weather. and marketing opportunities. The Giants were willing to pay the same amount of money to Shohei. He wanted to play in LA.
In any event, it’s certainly true LA has an outsized attraction to stars and they have a built in advantage in every sport. but a cap would mean they could only have a few stars instead of a roster full of them. LAD wouldn’t have been even able to make an offer given what they were already spending.
Yes. That’s my team!
I'll assume you already have a Yesavage jersey.
I'm confused as to what the point is?
