Mac has to choose between Chase Utley or Bryce Harper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmT_MnFos2kGo Phils
Prior to yesterdays game, I read the Yankees are 118-44 against the Twins over the last 162 games they faced each otherCan we just ban the Yankees from MLB? At least make it so the Twins don't have to play them. The Yankees are truly the Twins Kryptonite.
It amazes me that no matter who is on each team, how good each team is, that they Yankees have made them their #####. It truly is amazing.Prior to yesterdays game, I read the Yankees are 118-44 against the Twins over the last 162 games they faced each otherCan we just ban the Yankees from MLB? At least make it so the Twins don't have to play them. The Yankees are truly the Twins Kryptonite.
It is on the pirates feed for MLB.tv. At least it is showing that way with my providerIf I was a Congressman I'd have MLB up for anti-trust revocation. Stupid Apple TV deal. No local broadcast. Not on MLB.tv either.
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2 weeks ago I got to shake his hand and chat with him. Dude is an absolute monster of a man (kid).Skenes mowing Dodgers, love it.
There was a kid last weekend at my 12 year old son's travel ball tournament who threw 136 pitches in a game.@General Malaise you will love this one.
Last night….watching LSU/NC game three, winner goes to the Super Regional.
9th inning tied 4-4 LSU rolls out a kid who threw 103 pitches 48 hours. earlier. He proceeds to give up the game and throw another 35 plus pitches sitting 94MPH
TJ will be forth coming for this kid one day the way these coaches abuse arms.
This is one of the core reasons you are seeing so many arm injuries.
It’s a combination of the reach for max velo coupled with gross negligence by high school and college coaches wanting to win at all costs. The amount of damaged goods pouring into the league is at an all time high.
The UCL is a ticking time bomb because of year round travel and over use.
You simple did not have this at all in the “old” days. Kids did nit throw year round, took breaks, played other sports and billion dollar travel sports industry did not exist.
Insane.
C A BI am going to put up stats of some players. I am not going to say anything else and look for some opinions on who deserves MVP.
League Stats:
Player A:
Player B:
- Pitching: None
- Hitting: 18-46 (.391), 21R, 5RBI, 1 2B, 1 3B, 2 HR, 11BB, 3 K, 6 SB, .541/.586/1.128
- Defense: Catcher (don't have CS percentage but it was solid - Good defensively)
Player C:
- Pitching: 0-2, 1 Sv, 1 Blown Save, 3.23 ERA (8.2 IP/ 4ER), 8H, 3BB, 5 K
- Hitting: 23-49 (.469), 6R, 19RBI, 4 2B, 1 3B, 0 HR, 6 BB, 11 K, 1 SB, .527/.591/1.119
- Defense: .861 Fielding Percentage (5 errors on 36 chances)
What is your vote for League MVP (Rank 1st, 2nd, 3rd)?
- Pitching: 6-0, 1.05 ERA (46.2 IP/ 7 ER), 33H, 7 BB, 54K, 5 CG, 1 Shut Out
- Hitting: 14-48 (.292), 9 R, 12 RBI, 2 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR, 7 BB, 3 K, 1 SB, .375/.395/.771
- Defense: .961 Fielding Percentage (2 errors on 51 chances)
Season Long Stats:
Player A:
Player B:
- Pitching: 1-0, 5 IP, 0 ER, 1 H, 2 BB, 12K
- Hitting: 37-90 (.411), 35 R, 11 RBI, 6 2B, 2 3B, 3 HR, 18 BB, 7 K, 13 SB, .539/.622/1.161
- Defense: Catcher (don't have CS percentage but it was solid - Good defensively)
Player C:
- Pitching: 2-3, 1 Sv, 1 Blown Save, 2.66 ERA (23.2 IP/ 9ER), 16H, 9 BB, 27 K, 1 CG, 1 Shut Out
- Hitting: 36-89 (.404), 11 R, 30 RBI, 8 2B, 1 3B, 0 HR, 13 BB, 24 K, 3 SB, .485/.516/1.002
- Defense: .862 Fielding Percentage (8 errors on 58 chances)
- Pitching: 10-0, 0.71 ERA (78.2 IP/ 8 ER), 44 H, 10 BB, 99 K, 9 CG, 4 Shut Out, 1 No Hitter
- Hitting: 30-88 (.341), 20 R, 20 RBI, 8 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR, 12 BB, 4 K, 7 SB, .438/.465/.904
- Defense: .947 Fielding Percentage (4 errors on 76 chances)
Who is your vote for area MVP (Rank 1st, 2nd, 3rd)?
NOTE: This is high school level
This is happening a lot less at the youth level because most youth organizations are doing a much better job of having pitch count limits and rest requirements. The real issue is kids that play in a rec league and a travel team at the same time and then don't communicate with the coaches at each spot so they get overused because there is no cross checking to make sure it's not a problem.I think it's pretty gross what some of these coaches/managers are doing to kids.
Our LL has a 75 pitch count limit for our 10 and under league, so that keeps the workload on any given day manageable. But we just played a team in TOCs who had a kid who pitched 50+ innings (which is insane during a LL season; high on our team was mid-20s) and I'm sure he was hitting those pitch limits nearly every game. Threw some sort of off-speed, attempted curveball too which probably wasn't good for his arm either. Unless he's a physical freak I think he's got a 70% chance of getting hurt before he ever gets to high school.There was a kid last weekend at my 12 year old son's travel ball tournament who threw 136 pitches in a game.@General Malaise you will love this one.
Last night….watching LSU/NC game three, winner goes to the Super Regional.
9th inning tied 4-4 LSU rolls out a kid who threw 103 pitches 48 hours. earlier. He proceeds to give up the game and throw another 35 plus pitches sitting 94MPH
TJ will be forth coming for this kid one day the way these coaches abuse arms.
This is one of the core reasons you are seeing so many arm injuries.
It’s a combination of the reach for max velo coupled with gross negligence by high school and college coaches wanting to win at all costs. The amount of damaged goods pouring into the league is at an all time high.
The UCL is a ticking time bomb because of year round travel and over use.
You simple did not have this at all in the “old” days. Kids did nit throw year round, took breaks, played other sports and billion dollar travel sports industry did not exist.
Insane.
Another kid in my son's LL who is 12 and was the hardest throwing kid in the league ended up separating his elbow at the growth plate, and won't be able to throw a ball for 9-12 months. Baseball was his only sport and I'm pretty sure he lead the league in pitch count every season since he was 9.
I think it's pretty gross what some of these coaches/managers are doing to kids.
Studies have shown that thrown properly a curveball isn't any worse than a fastball on the arm.Threw some sort of off-speed, attempted curveball too which probably wasn't good for his arm either.
Yeah, I’m sure there’s a scenario where he is being expertly managed but I doubt it. The team he played on basically only used two pitchers the entire year. At that age the focus should still be developing a bunch of different players rather than going all out to win every game. The fact that they were relying on two workhorses the entire season suggests the focus wasn’t on the kids’ longevity.Studies have shown that thrown properly a curveball isn't any worse than a fastball on the arm.Threw some sort of off-speed, attempted curveball too which probably wasn't good for his arm either.
At that age group you can have a player that is essentially just using easy throwing mechanics and not stressful max effort throws every time. If that is the case the number of innings (as long as the pitch count was within limits and the proper rest adhered to) could be fine. Assuming they play about 20 games and that kid pitched once a week (or 10 of those games) then that's 5 IP per game to get to 50. If you stay under the 75 limit to get in those innings it's fine. That would be an extremely efficient 10 yr old though at 15 pitches per inning.
In all likelihood that kid is getting overused, and the coaches care more about winning then developing the player.
At 10 yrs old every player should be worked at for pitching. It's the best way to teach throwing mechanics and all you want is guys that can repeatedly throw the ball over the plate. When I coached that age group I had a pitching station at every practice and ran every player through the station. It was a way for me to able to focus on throwing mechanics for every player and since it was masked as pitching they focused a bit more because of that. Using only two guys all year is a disservice to them and the rest of the players trying to learn the game.Yeah, I’m sure there’s a scenario where he is being expertly managed but I doubt it. The team he played on basically only used two pitchers the entire year. At that age the focus should still be developing a bunch of different players rather than going all out to win every game. The fact that they were relying on two workhorses the entire season suggests the focus wasn’t on the kids’ longevity.
Yea, this kid who blew out his elbow does LL and travel ball, pitching in both. In addition he goes to one of our local baseball clinics and does pitching there 3+ days per week. I think it's too much and given that he has been a one sport kid since he was 8 I doubt that he has ever taken 6-8 weeks off. He was on pace to throw over 1000 pitches this LL season and that's not counting the travel ball.This is happening a lot less at the youth level because most youth organizations are doing a much better job of having pitch count limits and rest requirements. The real issue is kids that play in a rec league and a travel team at the same time and then don't communicate with the coaches at each spot so they get overused because there is no cross checking to make sure it's not a problem.I think it's pretty gross what some of these coaches/managers are doing to kids.
This is where parents need to be diligent and communicate with both sets of coaches (which will piss off one or both sets of coaches because someone is not going to be able to use the kid to pitch).
It's not a hard thing to monitor and control if you want to. But another big aspect that parents need to be aware of us is that beyond pitch count/rest between outings you need to shut your kid down from throwing for 6-8 weeks every year. The arm/shoulder/elbow needs total down time to recover. Without it you will still get overuse injuries even with strict pitch count adherence.
Disgusting and I feel sick for that kid. Totally preventable. But this trophy chasing mentality that has infested youth baseball both LL and Travel is a huge part of the problem.There was a kid last weekend at my 12 year old son's travel ball tournament who threw 136 pitches in a game.@General Malaise you will love this one.
Last night….watching LSU/NC game three, winner goes to the Super Regional.
9th inning tied 4-4 LSU rolls out a kid who threw 103 pitches 48 hours. earlier. He proceeds to give up the game and throw another 35 plus pitches sitting 94MPH
TJ will be forth coming for this kid one day the way these coaches abuse arms.
This is one of the core reasons you are seeing so many arm injuries.
It’s a combination of the reach for max velo coupled with gross negligence by high school and college coaches wanting to win at all costs. The amount of damaged goods pouring into the league is at an all time high.
The UCL is a ticking time bomb because of year round travel and over use.
You simple did not have this at all in the “old” days. Kids did nit throw year round, took breaks, played other sports and billion dollar travel sports industry did not exist.
Insane.
Another kid in my son's LL who is 12 and was the hardest throwing kid in the league ended up separating his elbow at the growth plate, and won't be able to throw a ball for 9-12 months. Baseball was his only sport and I'm pretty sure he lead the league in pitch count every season since he was 9.
I think it's pretty gross what some of these coaches/managers are doing to kids.
The Astros are 7-19??
Jose Abreu is hitting .167 with one more RBI than I have on the season.
Meanwhile, in AAA they have a 1B who hit 2 HR yesterday, one went 457 feet. 12 HR on the season with a 1.067 OPS.![]()
MVP?O/U on the next Royce Lewis IL stint.
I've got 10 days.
10 HR in 16 games, absolute stormer he's onMVP?O/U on the next Royce Lewis IL stint.
I've got 10 days.
1 run did count even though calling the first runner out caused it to be the third out.James Wood finally coming up today. Woo!I’ve been predicting the Nats calling up James Wood for awhile now. I’m starting to get legitimately angry that he’s not. A week ago, Nats were straddling .500, playing above expectations and not far from being a playoff contender. Bats have since gone silent. Nats 2-4 batters tonight were Eddie Rosario in RF who is hitting .185, Jesse Winker in LF batting .229, and Joey Meneses at DH in clean-up with a .227 average and .567 OPS. (Tonight did not matter because they are still throwing out Patrick Corbin to justify paying him $35 million this year, but I guess that 2019 flag flies forever.)
Meanwhile, James Wood keeps mashing in AAA — stat I saw earlier was that he is hitting .353 with a 1.021 OPS, seven home runs, and 10 stolen bases in AAA so far. (Oh, and he hit another home run today with a 110 mph exit velocity, so make that 8 now.)
I think would be tough for him to be in the ROY hunt coming up now. Only thing that I can think of is that they think if they keep giving Eddie Rosario at bats, they think they can flip him for some contender’s 37th ranked prospect at the trade deadline and call it a win or something.
Ask the kid and I'm sure he felt great and wanted to pitch. Ask his Dad and I'm sure he doesn't want him anywhere but on that mound. Manager/coach has to manage those things, but if someone is counting pitches like this and everyone knows how many it has been the parents can step in too.Disgusting and I feel sick for that kid. Totally preventable. But this trophy chasing mentality that has infested youth baseball both LL and Travel is a huge part of the problem.There was a kid last weekend at my 12 year old son's travel ball tournament who threw 136 pitches in a game.@General Malaise you will love this one.
Last night….watching LSU/NC game three, winner goes to the Super Regional.
9th inning tied 4-4 LSU rolls out a kid who threw 103 pitches 48 hours. earlier. He proceeds to give up the game and throw another 35 plus pitches sitting 94MPH
TJ will be forth coming for this kid one day the way these coaches abuse arms.
This is one of the core reasons you are seeing so many arm injuries.
It’s a combination of the reach for max velo coupled with gross negligence by high school and college coaches wanting to win at all costs. The amount of damaged goods pouring into the league is at an all time high.
The UCL is a ticking time bomb because of year round travel and over use.
You simple did not have this at all in the “old” days. Kids did nit throw year round, took breaks, played other sports and billion dollar travel sports industry did not exist.
Insane.
Another kid in my son's LL who is 12 and was the hardest throwing kid in the league ended up separating his elbow at the growth plate, and won't be able to throw a ball for 9-12 months. Baseball was his only sport and I'm pretty sure he lead the league in pitch count every season since he was 9.
I think it's pretty gross what some of these coaches/managers are doing to kids.
These are actually flipped for concern if you are a good parent. No parent should want their kid to only be on the mound.Ask the kid and I'm sure he felt great and wanted to pitch. Ask his Dad and I'm sure he doesn't want him anywhere but on that mound. Manager/coach has to manage those things, but if someone is counting pitches like this and everyone knows how many it has been the parents can step in too.
I could throw for hours when I was 12.
That's what I mean. Sorry I wasn't clear. If this particular kid actually threw 136 pitches in one game the manager and his parents were ok with that level of "neglect" for the sake of winning and likely their own hubris.These are actually flipped for concern if you are a good parent. No parent should want their kid to only be on the mound.Ask the kid and I'm sure he felt great and wanted to pitch. Ask his Dad and I'm sure he doesn't want him anywhere but on that mound. Manager/coach has to manage those things, but if someone is counting pitches like this and everyone knows how many it has been the parents can step in too.
I could throw for hours when I was 12.
Ideally both should care but in the end it is up to the parents (at that age) to protect their kid. As a coach I would hate parents trying to tell me how to handle my lineup but I have an idea about pitcher's health so I would hope they shouldn't have to tell me. As a parent, if my kid played on multiple teams (we didn't do this but some do) I would make sure I communicated with all coaches regarding pitching frequency and availability. This should be done ASAP so the coaches can plan accordingly.
Regardless, pitching is so much different now than when we were 12. I would venture a guess that when you were 12 you didn't throw with max effort/velo every pitch for hours on end. You paced yourself (at least I did) to be able to throw for hours on end. This doesn't happen today. With velo being the end all be all kids are being taught to max effort every pitch to reach top velo every time. This is when things break.
Absolutely. I never wanted out of a game...ever. I coached every level thru high school showcase. I never did this to my players arms......ever. We had strict pitch counts, strict rest days and recovery. Arm care was a top priority for any team I managed over the last 12 years.Ask the kid and I'm sure he felt great and wanted to pitch. Ask his Dad and I'm sure he doesn't want him anywhere but on that mound. Manager/coach has to manage those things, but if someone is counting pitches like this and everyone knows how many it has been the parents can step in too.Disgusting and I feel sick for that kid. Totally preventable. But this trophy chasing mentality that has infested youth baseball both LL and Travel is a huge part of the problem.There was a kid last weekend at my 12 year old son's travel ball tournament who threw 136 pitches in a game.@General Malaise you will love this one.
Last night….watching LSU/NC game three, winner goes to the Super Regional.
9th inning tied 4-4 LSU rolls out a kid who threw 103 pitches 48 hours. earlier. He proceeds to give up the game and throw another 35 plus pitches sitting 94MPH
TJ will be forth coming for this kid one day the way these coaches abuse arms.
This is one of the core reasons you are seeing so many arm injuries.
It’s a combination of the reach for max velo coupled with gross negligence by high school and college coaches wanting to win at all costs. The amount of damaged goods pouring into the league is at an all time high.
The UCL is a ticking time bomb because of year round travel and over use.
You simple did not have this at all in the “old” days. Kids did nit throw year round, took breaks, played other sports and billion dollar travel sports industry did not exist.
Insane.
Another kid in my son's LL who is 12 and was the hardest throwing kid in the league ended up separating his elbow at the growth plate, and won't be able to throw a ball for 9-12 months. Baseball was his only sport and I'm pretty sure he lead the league in pitch count every season since he was 9.
I think it's pretty gross what some of these coaches/managers are doing to kids.
I could throw for hours when I was 12.
STUD.Skenes mowing Dodgers, love it.
Tim Anderson....wait!
What a fall from grace just three years after hitting that memorable home run in the cornfields of Iowa against the yankees.
So close.O/U on the next Royce Lewis IL stint.
I've got 10 days.
This just amplifies the ridiculousness of where baseball salaries have gone and half the parks are half filled at best. At best.Wild stat: the top 6 highest paid starting pitchers make a combined $233M this year. They have a total of 6 wins between them.
Oof.
(that does not include Ohtani)
most have been on the IL for most of the season:Wild stat: the top 6 highest paid starting pitchers make a combined $233M this year. They have a total of 6 wins between them.
Oof.
(that does not include Ohtani)
Could be a star in the makingFA pickup alert-
Angel Martinez, CLE
Pulled him after 7 no hit innings.Skene's making his case to start the All-Star game.
I suspect Sale will get the nod (if he’s playing in the game?) but Skenes is probably already a top 5 pitcher in the league.Skene's making his case to start the All-Star game.
It is not strictly based on the number of pitches. Analytics says that facing a lineup a 3rd and 4th time is when pitchers typically falter. It just so happens that timing also coincides to about 100 pitches. There is no magic to the number. It is more about batters faced.MLB teams are so lucky that a nice round number like 100 is the limit to how many pitches a pitcher should throw in the game. Weird how it worked out so perfectly.