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*****Official Biden 2022 State Of The Union Address Thread***** (1 Viewer)

Latino activists are unhappy this morning that Biden didn’t say more about immigration reform. A woman on MSNBC just said “we’re not giving him a pass. If Biden doesn’t get this done we’ll just stay home in November.” 

JFK so frustrating. I would venture to say that there’s nobody in this forum who has been more vocal about immigration reform than I have, and I will continue to be. But Biden can’t wave a magic wand and get this done. He doesn’t have the votes! And if these people stay home he will NEVER have the votes! 

Democrats drive me crazy. They’re so transactional at times. What’s in it for me? 

 
My take on Biden SOTU

He started out talking like Russia just got beat by Ukraine – they haven’t. Ukraine is being hammered.

“We spent months building a coalition of other freedom-loving nations in Europe and the Americas to the Asian and African continents to confront Putin”
Uh … Joe, that’s been happening for a long time.

“Like many of you, I spent countless hours unifying our European allies. We shared with the world in advance what we knew Putin was planning, and precisely how he would try to falsify and justify his aggression.”


I have spent no hours unifying with European allies. All that planning and …. Russia invaded Ukraine. Guess that planning didn’t work?

“But let me be clear: Our forces are not engaged and will not engage in the conflict with Russian forces in Ukraine.


Our forces are not going to Europe to fight in Ukraine, but to defend our NATO allies in the event that Putin decides to keep moving west.


In other words …. If Russia wants to take the Ukraine the USA won’t stop them.  That’s fine – but don’t give a speech like we’re going to thwart Russia then turn around and say uh, yeah … we’re not really going to thwart Russia.

“Tonight, I can announce that the United States has worked with 30 other countries to release 60 million barrels of oil from reserves around the world.But I want you to know that we are going to be OK. We are going to be OK.”


So again my complaint for a long time here – Biden knew this was all coming, he’s said it …. And the plans should have already been laid. Releasing that oil won’t make a hill of beans different IMO.

“The pandemic has been punishing. “
Mention the number Joe … the numbers on your watch, after you hammered Trump on death numbers. Go on Joe … do it …

“Unlike the $2 trillion tax cut passed in the previous administration that benefited the top 1 percent of Americans, the American Rescue Plan helped working people — and left no one behind.”


Here we go ….. those tax cuts helped me and working American’s. The $1400 that was charged to American’s national debt came and went whereas tax cuts last. That 1% Joe – they pay the bulk of incomes taxes, did you know ?

“We’ll build a national network of 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations, begin to replace the poisonous lead pipes, so every child — every American — has clean water to drink at home and at school. We’re going to provide affordable high-speed internet for every American — rural, urban, suburban and tribal communities.”
Spend that money Joe !!

“When we use taxpayers’ dollars to rebuild America, we are going to do it by buying American: buy American products, support American jobs.”
“The rebirth of pride that comes from stamping products “Made in America.” The revitalization of American manufacturing.“


Sounds very Trump-ish doesn’t it? Joe and Democrats are not known for buy American, support American” …. And I’m not buying it. Sorry Joe you cannot claim Make American Great Again

“Inflation is robbing them of the gains they thought otherwise they would be able to feel. I get it. That’s why my top priority is getting prices under control.“


Again, 50 years experience …. He should have see this coming and had a plan in place.  He doesn’t, he’s lost.

“One way to fight inflation is to drive down wages and make Americans poorer.

I think I have a better idea to fight inflation.

Lower your cost, not your wages.



What?  Literally nobody says drive down wages fights inflation. Lowering costs …. You can’t do that Joe when you and your party have labored hard to increase wages. When you do that, you increase costs for goods and services – driving everyone’s costs UP. Good gawd Joe

All the talk on lowering prices – that’s unrealistic with all the demands for increase in wages. You cannot get companies to sell their goods and services for less when labor and energy costs are soaring. I mean even a simple guy like me understands that

“I’m not looking to punish anybody. But let’s make corporations and wealthy Americans start paying their fair share.”


They do Joe – and if you tax them MORE they will increase the costs of their goods and services MORE. Costs go UP not DOWN

“By the end of this year, the deficit will be down to less than half of what it was before I took office.”


Adding trillions to the national debt Joe – talk more about that please. All that spending on infrastructure and covid fighting money and funding Ukraine … where is all that money coming from ?

“Raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour and extend the Child Tax Credit, so no one has to raise a family in poverty.”


That’s worked brilliantly in cities that have done that – hasn’t it ?  ☹

“We’ve reached a new moment in the fight against COVID-19, where severe cases down to a level not seen since last July.”
After how many hundreds of thousands dead on your watch Joe ? some people would say a president with that many dead on their watch should resign

“We should all agree: The answer is not to defund the police. It’s to fund the police. Fund them. Fund them. Fund them with resources and training. Resources and training they need to protect their communities.”


Oh Joe … your party is going to hate that and why are you saying this now and not 18 months ago when you were running for office?

“I ask Congress to pass proven measures to reduce gun violence. Pass universal background checks. Why should anyone on the terrorist list be able to purchase a weapon? Why? Why?
And folks, ban assault weapons with high-capacity magazines that hold up to a hundred rounds. You think the deer are wearing Kevlar vests?


There is no such thing as gun violence. There is violence, and violent people use weapons. People on terror lists don’t buy guns, shouldn’t even be in the USA though to be honest. There are no “assault” weapons, that too is a catch phrase lie that needs to stop. Why ban 100 round magazines? Literally nobody uses them in crimes.

Its scare tactics, it would literally not reduce crimes at all, the above and remember all the funding for Ukraine? I bet a lot of money will be spent on “assault weapons” for our Ukraine friends. Think about it

What a loser on talking about border policy – sickens me that he can say what he said after doing what he’s done  :(

 
Latino activists are unhappy this morning that Biden didn’t say more about immigration reform. A woman on MSNBC just said “we’re not giving him a pass. If Biden doesn’t get this done we’ll just stay home in November.” 

JFK so frustrating. I would venture to say that there’s nobody in this forum who has been more vocal about immigration reform than I have, and I will continue to be. But Biden can’t wave a magic wand and get this done. He doesn’t have the votes! And if these people stay home he will NEVER have the votes! 

Democrats drive me crazy. They’re so transactional at times. What’s in it for me? 
Regarding the bolded, honestly, I find this to be true about everybody these days. Not just these days, it's been prevalent for a while. Follks are just more vocal and open about it now, from all walks of life. No partisan lines need to be drawn whatsoever. 

 
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Latino activists are unhappy this morning that Biden didn’t say more about immigration reform. A woman on MSNBC just said “we’re not giving him a pass. If Biden doesn’t get this done we’ll just stay home in November.” 

JFK so frustrating. I would venture to say that there’s nobody in this forum who has been more vocal about immigration reform than I have, and I will continue to be. But Biden can’t wave a magic wand and get this done. He doesn’t have the votes! And if these people stay home he will NEVER have the votes! 

Democrats drive me crazy. They’re so transactional at times. What’s in it for me? 
you are more than welcome to come to the ''Right'' side 

 
Latino activists are unhappy this morning that Biden didn’t say more about immigration reform. A woman on MSNBC just said “we’re not giving him a pass. If Biden doesn’t get this done we’ll just stay home in November.” 

JFK so frustrating. I would venture to say that there’s nobody in this forum who has been more vocal about immigration reform than I have, and I will continue to be. But Biden can’t wave a magic wand and get this done. He doesn’t have the votes! And if these people stay home he will NEVER have the votes! 

Democrats drive me crazy. They’re so transactional at times. What’s in it for me? 
That's the problem with flushing the working class and handing them to the Republicans in favor of identity politics.

 
Did Biden say anything about the US becoming energy independent?  Sure finishing the Keystone XL won't choke off the Russian this week, but 2-3 years down the line it would be nice to have energy leverage.  

Is there an immigration plan for the border?  

Is he still pushing BBB to combat inflation or have we given up on the inflation issue?
You know that's Canadian and not US oil right?

 
Increase your profit margins during a pandemic and a period of inflation seems like what's actually happening.
So stick it to your suppliers.    What if they won't lower there prices.    It's almost like Biden has been in the govt his whole life. 

 
ABC reported its as go get him.  But I understand it's just a Bidenism and he didn't mean anything by it. 


No, it is not just a Bidenism. As I posted above earlier in the thread:

Luke Russert @LukeRussert 12h

My father used to say “Go get ‘em!” It’s an Rust Belt Irish Catholic kind of way of saying, “Give ‘em hell!” It’s not meant to go after Putin, it’s more of a “let’s go forward, try hard and win America!” #Sotu

https://twitter.com/LukeRussert/status/1498859919453220870

 
As hard as these times have been..........we are stronger today than we were a year ago.

Thanks for admitting all the crap you've gotten us into, what exactly has improved?

 
No, it is not just a Bidenism. As I posted above earlier in the thread:

Luke Russert @LukeRussert 12h

My father used to say “Go get ‘em!” It’s an Rust Belt Irish Catholic kind of way of saying, “Give ‘em hell!” It’s not meant to go after Putin, it’s more of a “let’s go forward, try hard and win America!” #Sotu

https://twitter.com/LukeRussert/status/1498859919453220870
I heard him.  ABC reported "Him", but whatever twitter poster works for you...

 
He said him. He said Iranian. He said vaccine. He had a number of word slip ups. He has a speech impediment and he's old. It happens. I think we all know what he meant. 

 
So stick it to your suppliers.    What if they won't lower there prices.    It's almost like Biden has been in the govt his whole life. 
Do you know the difference between profit can profit margins?  Increasing your price at the same rate your price increases keeps your profit margin the same. Increasing your profit margin is price gouging. What does Biden have to do with this?

But here's another reality. While families are dealing with sticker shock, profits for companies that put these goods on shelves - well, those are skyrocketing. Data from the U.S. Commerce Department shows that corporate profit margins are the largest they've been in 70 years,
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/13/1080494838/economist-explains-record-corporate-profits-despite-rising-inflation

https://prospect.org/blogs/tap/inflation-and-price-gouging/

 
You can't build a wall high enough to keep out...(a virus).

A vaccine. A vaccine can stop yada yada.

Joe does this alot, starts one thought and doesn't finish it before plowing into the next. It's a bit annoying to listen to but it's not the "aha dimentia!" gotcha that some of you seem to be rooting for. 🙄 

Give me a decent guy who stumbles with his words over an awful human being like Don Jr everyday of the week.

 
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I think that during the pauses because of applause, the other side ought to be able to boo or heckle.  It's just as important for Congress to show disapproval as it is approval of what the president has to say about the state of the union. Maybe even more so.  


See below.

Disagree- it's the president's night.  You don't have to clap, or stand - but boo is bad form.  They are all going to run to the nearest microphone afterwards - make your point then


Disgusting when it was done to Trump and disgusting when it's done to Biden.  You would think the Boomer's would have learn some manners from their parents.

Latino activists are unhappy this morning that Biden didn’t say more about immigration reform. A woman on MSNBC just said “we’re not giving him a pass. If Biden doesn’t get this done we’ll just stay home in November.” 

JFK so frustrating. I would venture to say that there’s nobody in this forum who has been more vocal about immigration reform than I have, and I will continue to be. But Biden can’t wave a magic wand and get this done. He doesn’t have the votes! And if these people stay home he will NEVER have the votes! 

Democrats drive me crazy. They’re so transactional at times. What’s in it for me? 


Stay home in November....yeah right.

Increase your profit margins during a pandemic and a period of inflation seems like what's actually happening.


Yes, but in many cases we aren't forced to buy those products.  Ultimately the consumer sets the price (excluding monopolies).

 
See below.

Disgusting when it was done to Trump and disgusting when it's done to Biden.  You would think the Boomer's would have learn some manners from their parents.

Stay home in November....yeah right.

Yes, but in many cases we aren't forced to buy those products.  Ultimately the consumer sets the price (excluding monopolies).
Agreed but this is happening with CPG, grocery stories, oil and gas...things we depend on.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/06/oil-companies-profits-exxon-chevron-shell-exclusive

 
Tlaib and the rest of the Squad are complete idiots. They should just keep their mouths shut.

- No one fought harder for President Biden’s agenda than progressives!

- Some important parts of the President’s agenda became law with the infrastructure bill!

Of course, who voted against the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill?

Yep. Tlaib, AOC, Bush, Bowman, Omar, Pressley

 
Tlaib and the rest of the Squad are complete idiots. They should just keep their mouths shut.

- No one fought harder for President Biden’s agenda than progressives!

- Some important parts of the President’s agenda became law with the infrastructure bill!

Of course, who voted against the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill?

Yep. Tlaib, AOC, Bush, Bowman, Omar, Pressley
Someone should tell Tlaib to not look at her phone during the speech.  

 
SoBeDad said:
I never used the words "job creation". Clearly most of the jobs added were people going back to work at their old jobs or similar jobs. But a good portion are new jobs. I following biotechnology because one of my daughters joined the industry in late 2020. It's booming, lots of venture capital, data science methods, etc. 


squistion said:
20 minutes at best according to the usual suspects IIRC. 


SoBeDad said:
I said 6 million jobs added. How many are newly created, does anyone know?  At least 2 were not there pre-covid,  my daughters new jobs in the Marijuana industry in LA and biotechnology in SF. I also see lots of new start-ups in Miami. Check back in 2024.
130 Million jobs in 2019.  

123 Million in 2020

127 Million in 2021

https://www.statista.com/statistics/192356/number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-usa-since-1990/

 
Yes, t is just one poll, but still impressive given the comments in this thread from last night, which seemed mostly negative.

https://twitter.com/StrikePac/status/1498891478478712833/photo/1 (graphic at link)

CBS Poll

78% Approve of President Biden’s State of the Union

22% Disapprove
Do you know the breakdown of those polled? I saw it as 49 percent D, 28 percent Ind. and 21 percent R but it's from a right wing twitter account so take it for what it's worth. 

 
Do you know the difference between profit can profit margins?  Increasing your price at the same rate your price increases keeps your profit margin the same. Increasing your profit margin is price gouging. What does Biden have to do with this?

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/13/1080494838/economist-explains-record-corporate-profits-despite-rising-inflation

https://prospect.org/blogs/tap/inflation-and-price-gouging/
Do you know what inflation is?    What you are advocating is wage induced inflation.   

And the npr is state owned media.

 
Latino activists are unhappy this morning that Biden didn’t say more about immigration reform. A woman on MSNBC just said “we’re not giving him a pass. If Biden doesn’t get this done we’ll just stay home in November.” 

JFK so frustrating. I would venture to say that there’s nobody in this forum who has been more vocal about immigration reform than I have, and I will continue to be. But Biden can’t wave a magic wand and get this done. He doesn’t have the votes! And if these people stay home he will NEVER have the votes! 

Democrats drive me crazy. They’re so transactional at times. What’s in it for me? 
Isn't this the nature of the beast that is identity politics?

 
What did he do?   I mean you have been clipped a number of times yourself.


The offending post was deleted by the mods, but as I recall, it was in response to someone who started a thread which had to do with COVID and also, I think, of wearing masks. Unfortunately, I don't remember the specifics...and his post, along with those who quoted him were all taken down.

 
So stick it to your suppliers.    What if they won't lower there prices.    It's almost like Biden has been in the govt his whole life. 
So i read a quote from Vitali on Maclife ,it says ''We killed some people. I guess 6 people last night''

 
The offending post was deleted by the mods, but as I recall, it was in response to someone who started a thread which had to do with COVID and also, I think, of wearing masks. Unfortunately, I don't remember the specifics...and his post, along with those who quoted him were all taken down.




Thanks, did not remember.   

I sure he is with us in spirit. 😉

 

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