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***Official Big Brother 17 Thread***no spoilers (1 Viewer)

Austin is just a bad player. That being said, it kind of sucks that Liz is flirty with him and doesnt like him. Poor ####### doesnt even know.

 
I just picked this up last week. Didn't know Audrey was "transgender" until just now. How does she know she was the first transgender person? :oldunsure: Better yet, why does it really matter?
The first tranny on the show and CBS played this up as much as they could.She got a very good edit tonight.
How do we know this?
I have seen every season and she's the first I can recall?
I believe the question is how do we know that Audrey is the first transgendered person on the show? We don't. We don't know if someone else was and it was never told to CBS or anyone.

 
Think Vanessa blew her game last night. She was playing so well. Don't think she could have made a "right" decision last night.

Either way she went was going to hurt her game.

 
Think Vanessa blew her game last night. She was playing so well. Don't think she could have made a "right" decision last night.

Either way she went was going to hurt her game.
It was risky to assume that even a thrown comp would go your way before seeing what the comp is. I think that was her mistake, along with being on the fence about Austin. I think she did the better move last night putting up Pee Wee, but now she's the bigger target in her camp. She just needs other people to screw up bigger now, which is very possible.

 
Think Vanessa blew her game last night. She was playing so well. Don't think she could have made a "right" decision last night.

Either way she went was going to hurt her game.
Couldn't agree more. She's such a smart girl, it's going to kill her knowing that she had the game in the bag but dropped the ball on one key decision point - one that will ultimately lead to her certain demise. And that simple tactical mistake was not telling Liz about Austin before the competition so she could help throw the competition. If that had occurred, Jackie stays HOH and Austin gets back-doored with no blood on Vanessa's hands.Why she didn't tell Liz in advance is mind boggling to me. She most certainly would have had to tell her afterwards. She blew it on that one, and she knows it. It will haunt her the rest of her life too.

 
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Maybe because Liz would have had the same thoughts as she did after the comp about the backdoor move.

The reason they ultimately decided not to backdoor Austin could have been the reason they used to not go forward with that plan from the start. Nothing changed in between, he was a vote in their posse (and a big target for the other half of the house) and backdooring him weakens the posse before making such a play was necessary. It was stupid from the start, imo.

 
Austin had to go. Totally untrustworthy. Just a matter of time before he flipped on the 6th sense alliance.

Take him out and have a solid 5. The final 5 becomes a final 3 with Vanessa with the winning couple. Then it's a crap shot to get into the final 2, where the odds are on her to make it and win the game.

She blew it. Big time.

 
Yep, it was too late for Austin to make side deals with Jason. Even if he completely flipped to the other side of the house he'd be at the bottom of their totem pole as well.

6th sense can always boot him next week, assuming they don't fumble the HOH situation again.

 
Austin had to go. Totally untrustworthy. Just a matter of time before he flipped on the 6th sense alliance.

Take him out and have a solid 5. The final 5 becomes a final 3 with Vanessa with the winning couple. Then it's a crap shot to get into the final 2, where the odds are on her to make it and win the game.

She blew it. Big time.
Agreed. She was a power player, one of the best IMO then blew it by not taking out Austin. She can recover of course, but she had the entire house behind her.

 
Ive really started to dislike Clay. Loved how the two of them acted like babies when they got nominated.

In regards to not telling Liz in advance...didnt Julia tell Vanessa not to?

 
I thought after watching when they went back to his hometown that this was an act. Everyone said he is not really like that?

Am I wrong?

Because, if so, it's a great act. I would even consider him a good player if it's not an act.

He's not seen as a threat, everyone loves him, he has shown loyalty and he wins comps.

That's more than most have done in the house.

 
If he is faking he deserves an Oscar and the half million. Dude is a spaz but a likeable one.
He is only acting like that in his DR segments on the TV show. He doesn't act like that in game. I bet the other players will be shocked at all the TV time he gets considering how little gaming he does.
 
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If he is faking he deserves an Oscar and the half million. Dude is a spaz but a likeable one.
He is only acting like that in his DR segments on the TV show. He doesn't act like that in game. I bet the other players will be shocked at all the TV time he gets considering how little gaming he does.
Wow. Genius.

 
Hey all any website have past big brother episodes/seasons available for viewing? Had a guy on YouTube for a while but looks like cbs put the stops on him. Tia.

 
If he is faking he deserves an Oscar and the half million. Dude is a spaz but a likeable one.
He is only acting like that in his DR segments on the TV show. He doesn't act like that in game. I bet the other players will be shocked at all the TV time he gets considering how little gaming he does.
Wow. Genius.
Yeah, he's not like that on the feeds. I don't know if he just gets excited/nervous in the dr or what?

 
If he is faking he deserves an Oscar and the half million. Dude is a spaz but a likeable one.
He is only acting like that in his DR segments on the TV show. He doesn't act like that in game. I bet the other players will be shocked at all the TV time he gets considering how little gaming he does.
Wow. Genius.
Yeah, he's not like that on the feeds. I don't know if he just gets excited/nervous in the dr or what?
Maybe they give him a bunch of sugar and caffeine and then turn on the camera.

 
Don't really hate or really like anyone at this point which is unusual for me. I side with the Shelli/ Clay /Vanessa alliance over James/Meg etc, but I think that is when Jason was on that side. Still don't care much for James but Meg and Jackie are OK.

 
Wait, Clay and Shellie have been "in love" and hanging out 24/7 for six weeks and their first kiss was just a couple days ago? WTF?

 
Should be fun watching Vanessa get the boot this week, becky seems to know what she is doing. I liked Vanessa awhile back but sick of her now.

 
Should be fun watching Vanessa get the boot this week, becky seems to know what she is doing. I liked Vanessa awhile back but sick of her now.
I'm not 100% sure of this. She told her plan to 3 or 4 people and said that's it, no one else can know. Then she told Shelli and John later. I don't think she'll be able to keep things quiet.

 
Should be fun watching Vanessa get the boot this week, becky seems to know what she is doing. I liked Vanessa awhile back but sick of her now.
I'm not 100% sure of this. She told her plan to 3 or 4 people and said that's it, no one else can know. Then she told Shelli and John later. I don't think she'll be able to keep things quiet.
That part has pasted game wise. Only thing left is voting someone out.
 
I thought Sunday was a good episode. I think Steve is playing a game against himself, and I think, he thinks, he's winning. I laughed when he said Becky was threatened by him. The guy has zero social game and I believe won the first veto and nothing more. Why would anyone be threatened by that? Is he capable of winning competitions? Of course, but no one is scared of him right now.

 
:lmao: John had the same thought I did in regards to Steve playing in a game by himself. In any case, glad Steve pulled out the win and the poker pro is on the block. No matter what happens, Im happy with one of the ladies leaving. For as much as Vanessa talks about her great memory, she sucked at the comp last night. Double eveiction episode tonight!

 
:lmao: John had the same thought I did in regards to Steve playing in a game by himself. In any case, glad Steve pulled out the win and the poker pro is on the block. No matter what happens, Im happy with one of the ladies leaving. For as much as Vanessa talks about her great memory, she sucked at the comp last night. Double eveiction episode tonight!
That conversation with John and Steve was great. "Why don't you think they see me as a threat?" "Because you never win." And then John telling Steve if he won POV he would take Shelli off the block. Point blank and no BS.

 
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:lmao: John had the same thought I did in regards to Steve playing in a game by himself. In any case, glad Steve pulled out the win and the poker pro is on the block. No matter what happens, Im happy with one of the ladies leaving. For as much as Vanessa talks about her great memory, she sucked at the comp last night. Double eveiction episode tonight!
That conversation with John and Steve was great. "Why don't you think they see me as a threat?" "Because you never win." And then John telling Steve if he won POV he would take Shelli off the block. Point blank and no BS.
I'm beginning to think I underestimated John because of all his goofiness in some of the clips. That whole flashback to what happened like 5 hours before the vote was either sheer brilliance by him or lucky or both. He's most deserving to win at this point. Hopefully he doesn't become a target.

 

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