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Official Bruce Ellington - WR, 49ers (Dynasty Alert) (1 Viewer)

killface said:
They gave up pretty much the most sacks in the league last year and I can't see why they think they would be improved especially given the defenses in the division

PFF doesn't really have anything good to say about them and they are preseason rankings...which is code for just a guess
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It was awful on all fronts last year but there's some hope that they can turn it back around this year. If Garnett pans out they basically upgraded everywhere except LT, which was the lone bright spot. 

 
CSN Bay Area's Matt Maiocco called third-year WR Bruce Ellington the 49ers' "most improved player" so far in training camp.
Maiocco expects the 49ers to feature "a ball-control passing attack," and says Ellington "has the short-area quickness to get open quickly out of the slot." Maiocco went on to call Ellington "an easy pitch-and-catch option" for checkdown artist Blaine Gabbert. On a CSN Bay Area video, Maiocco said he believes Gabbert and Ellington have formed "a nice rapport" in practice. Ellington continues to look like one of fantasy football's top 2016 sleepers.
 
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I am intrigued by Ellington, I'm just worried that the QB play will be so damn awful he wont get many actual catch opportunities.

 
The Hank said:
I am intrigued by Ellington, I'm just worried that the QB play will be so damn awful he wont get many actual catch opportunities.
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Well Blaine was QB12 over the last 5 weeks of the 2015 season. I know he's historically been awful but watch the tape; he actually displayed some competence last year.

So basically the 49ers WR corps shapes up like this?

  • Torrey Smith - deep threat
  • DeAndre Smelter (Jerome Simpson - be honest, did you know he was still in the league?) - intermediate routes
  • Bruce Ellington (Quinton Patton) - comebacks, curls, flats and slants, e.g., Amendola lite
Vance McDonald seems like a nice sleeper TE this year. I could see him prospering, and the 3rd-4th year is often when highly drafted TEs start to come into their own.

I'm in an 18 x 12 league, I doubt I touch the SF WRs. But if I had to own one, it would be Ellington based on the off-season and preseason reports.

 
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Disappointed to see Ellington returning kicks yesterday...that's usually a sign of less involvement as a WR, but not always.

 
TripItUp said:
Disappointed to see Ellington returning kicks yesterday...that's usually a sign of less involvement as a WR, but not always.
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Correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt Ellington one of the primary returners last year?

Im less worried about an established returner keeping and practicing that part of the job than I would be to see a non-rook WR suddenly take it up.  That would feel like "has to add value to make the roster."

 
TripItUp said:
Disappointed to see Ellington returning kicks yesterday...that's usually a sign of less involvement as a WR, but not always.
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I immediate thought the same upon seeing this.

 
lots of teams have had/do have talent at that position returning kicks and punts, not sure Id read too much into it

 
Pwingles said:
lots of teams have had/do have talent at that position returning kicks and punts, not sure Id read too much into it
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Of the top 40 scoring WRs last year, how many do you think were returning kickoffs last year?

:coffee:

It might not be a concern from a dynasty perspective, but it is a red flag to me from a redraft perspective.

 
TripItUp said:
Of the top 40 scoring WRs last year, how many do you think were returning kickoffs last year?

:coffee:

It might not be a concern from a dynasty perspective, but it is a red flag to me from a redraft perspective.
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it concerns me in the sense that its stupid for teams to do, but i do recall Dez, AB, Cobb and others returning some, so its not necessarily indicative of your skill or value relative to the squad

 
Pwingles said:
it concerns me in the sense that its stupid for teams to do, but i do recall Dez, AB, Cobb and others returning some, so its not necessarily indicative of your skill or value relative to the squad
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nevertheless, the vast majority of the top fantasy WRs aren't returning kickoffs.

 
TripItUp said:
nevertheless, the vast majority of the top fantasy WRs aren't returning kickoffs.
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Vast majority, sure. 

But sproles, Landry, T Benjamin, Austin, ginn, Antonio Brown, and golden tate all had more than 20 punt returns last year.  David Johnson had 22 kickoff returns.  Patrick Peterson and some other good corners also play special teams.  All it tells me is they want to get him on the field.

 
TripItUp said:
Of the top 40 scoring WRs last year, how many do you think were returning kickoffs last year?

:coffee:

It might not be a concern from a dynasty perspective, but it is a red flag to me from a redraft perspective.
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Fair point, but it may be a more accurate indicator taking those top 40 and seeing for how many it was their first time in the top 40. Of course teams won't put an established guy returning kicks (usually). A guy who is having his first breakout year, may still get those duties.

 
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ShamrockPride said:
Fair point, but it may be a more accurate indicator taking those top 40 and seeing for how many it was their first time in the top 40. Of course teams won't put an established guy returning kicks (usually). A guy who is having his first breakout year, may still get those duties.
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Antonio Brown, Tyler Lockett and Jarvis Landry weren't "established" when they started returning.  But they still are and it doesn't seem to suggest they are on the way out.

Sure, if a marginal player starts returning kicks there is a risk that they are moving from "position player" to returner.  But when a player who is already returning starts to "break out" or even just climb the depth chart, I dont see it as a bad sign if they keep returning kicks.  

Teams have a certain amount of inertia with their returners.  They dont like to replace reliable ones even if that reliable returner is becoming a primary offensive weapon as well.

 
49ers WR/KR Bruce Ellington suffered a strained hamstring in Friday night's preseason game.
He missed the second preseason game with an ankle injury. Ellington's hamstring strain looked serious, as he walked gingerly off the field before being met by trainers on the sideline with a towel over his head. Ellington has mammoth opportunity, but he simply can't stay off the shelf.

 
 
 
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Is there any updated info on Ellington's injury? The only thing I have seen is a hamstring strain, out 3-4 weeks. It seems a bit concerning that the Niners just traded for another slot guy in Jeremy Kerley, could that be an indication that they have lost a bit of confidence in Ellington?

 
MBilli said:
Is there any updated info on Ellington's injury? The only thing I have seen is a hamstring strain, out 3-4 weeks. It seems a bit concerning that the Niners just traded for another slot guy in Jeremy Kerley, could that be an indication that they have lost a bit of confidence in Ellington?
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Confidence that he can stay healthy?  Probably.

 
Technically, he could be pulled off of IR at some point. I believe they did away with designating one player for return, This year, I think they allow teams to take one player off of IR as long as they were on it for 8 weeks (or something like that).

 
Anarchy99 said:
Technically, he could be pulled off of IR at some point. I believe they did away with designating one player for return, This year, I think they allow teams to take one player off of IR as long as they were on it for 8 weeks (or something like that).
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From the article:

While teams can hold off on designating a player to return from injured reserve, players eligible for that slot need to be on the initial 53-man roster so Ellington won’t be back until 2017.
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Anarchy99 said:
Thanks for the clarification. Although I did not see an article in this thread. Which article are you referring to? Not doubting what you cited, just wanted to read what was written.
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My bad! I was reading it on another tab and just assumed I got it here:

PFT link

 
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Looked pretty good for the Texans last night.  Anything to see here?  Room in the WR corps?

 
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zed2283 said:
Looked pretty good for the Texans last night. Anything to see here? Room in the WR corps?
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I think there's room.

Fuller is gone. Miller, who I'm assuming he's competing with for slot duty is dealing with an ankle sprain. Strong was just suspended one game for weed. Also, the way the TEs were used last year (25% of the targets) is way above average for O'Brien's offense. Most of that target share was a direct result of Osweiler being terrible.

So yeah, I think Ellington just stumbled into a huge opportunity. The big thing with him, as always, is his health. I'm reading that he sat out a recent practice so that's definitely worth monitoring. Either way, he's free.

 
This guy is like the Dion Lewis of WRs (pre-NE breakout). Keeps looking great in preseason and camp every year, and then *POOF* he's gone with an injury.

Hopefully he can stay on the field this time. 

 
I was very impressed watching this guy in preseason. Not sure it will translate to the regular season but he might make for a last pic stash in a keeper League

 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Not going to try and upack everything here, but it's worth looking at:

Age Vol Effc HT" WT# BMI SPD EXP AGL ATHL BAL1 BAL2 Draft
Bruce Ellington    23.03     89    8.81    69.13    197    28.98    0.60    0.49    1.48    1.42    0.79    0.25    106
Odell Beckham     21.82   102    3.54    70.75    198    27.81    0.53    0.50    1.52    1.40    0.81    0.20    12
Doug Baldwin       22.94     62    4.63    69.75    189    27.31    0.75    0.33    0.78    1.05    0.44    0.36    UDFA


Ellington is shorter and thicker than both of these guys, but based on other comps I don't have any reason today to believe that it disqualifies the comparison despite not having much data to work with.  Golden Tate for example looks like you'd expect him to look if his comps were with players who were somewhat longer and leaner, but similar in terms of overall size.

And all three were relatively low-volume high-efficiency players in college as well.

Based on being a top-12 draft pick and entering the NFL a year younger than both other guys you'd expect Beckham to be the best prospect of the three and obviously that's turned out to be true.  But Baldwin was an UDFA who's emerged as a borderline NFL #1 despite the low volume and the poor draft status.

What's striking about the comps above is how similar Ellington is to Beckham across all six measurables on the right.  I doubt I could find any two WR that matched up more similarly.

So if the coach says he's intrigued by Ellington, there's pre-camp buzz about the guy and early camp observers think he's a potential breakout candidate, I think it's worth paying a lot of attention and taking a flier.
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Waited till I quietly grabbed Ellington in all my leagues before bumping this.  Ellington is a superb athlete, and he's just now 26 beginning his 4th year in the league.  Everyone expected him to breakout last year with Chip until he got hurt, spending the year on IR.  Injuries have been a major problem for the guy, but we know sometimes players are unlucky and eventually figure out how to stay healthy.  Some never do, obviously.  Still ... he's free, so your cost of entry is as low as it'll ever be.

Being cut by a new regime in SF after spending a year on IR and having some recurring health issues in camp isn't that surprising.  Being cut by such known talent-evaluating savants as the Jets isn't that surprising.  However, Ellington has landed in a prime opportunity spot with Houston.  As @SameSongNDance pointed out, Houston TEs had 25% of their targets last year, way above average for a BOB offense.  They've also lost Fiedorowicz to IR and obviously have a new QB.  Hopkins is the clear #1, but Ellington doesn't have to take that role to be productive ... and he's certainly been productive ever since landing in Houston.  His first game with the team in the preseason he put on an absolute show, catching 4 of 5 targets for 93 yards against the Patriots first team defense (while Hopkins didn't play).  He was active week 1 against Jacksonville, but only saw 2 targets and was concussed, missing week 2.  On Sunday he returns to play 70/71 snaps, see 7 targets (good for 2nd on the team) and post a 4-59-1 line (most of which came out of the slot - meaning his role shouldn't be affected by Fuller's return on the outside).  

Ellington is hyper athletic.  He's in a good situation for opportunity.  He may not stay healthy ... but if he does, watch out.

Also - I'll just say this: Doug Baldwin didn't really breakout till he was 26 or 27 (depending on which season you consider the breakout - the 66 catch one or the first 1K season).  Antonio Brown didn't explode until he was 25.  Don't ignore talent due to past injuries or a guy bouncing around for a couple years. 

 
I'm all over Ellington this week at least and his match-up against Logan Ryan. I mentioned in the Baldwin thread before last Sunday about how the TEN match-up was a get right spot for him and he put up a 10/105/1 line and didn't even play the entire game. Ellington has taken over the slot role (99% of the snaps last week), looks very good to me and is most definitely flying under the radar. 

 
Was annoyed that this thread was bumped earlier today, but re-picked him up in every league tonight.  

He's got a lot of baggage at this point, and it does matter, but I like low probability guys who I think have a lot of potential if they hit.  Here's to a prolonged run without injury.  Would be nice to see what he can do.

 
Anyone else rolling out Ellington this week? Seems like a great spot with no Fuller, Peterson likely shadowing Nuk, and BOB just saying they need to get the ball in Ellington's hands:

"Other guys are going to have to step up," Texans coach Bill O'Brien said. "Bruce is running good routes. Bruce needs to get the ball more. Bruce Ellington, he's doing some really good things out there."




 
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I will admit I am desperate, but he has got some things going as far as desperation plays go.

 
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