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Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
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Love the Colts in a romp.
Saints a little tougher to pick with that D, but that home-field is huge.
Saints a little tougher to pick with that D, but that home-field is huge.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Both road teams. I doubted the Jets last week and gave them 0% chance of winning. Not again. Vikings all the way.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
homefield in New Orleans is overrated. Saints lost a playoff game @ home in 1992 against the Eagles, in a season where the Saints were 12-4, and they got trounced by Philly.that homefield didn't matter against Dallas, or Tampa in weeks 14-15...
Saints have squeaked by in games against lowly opponents:
week 13 Redskins ( won by 3 pts)
week 14 Falcons ( won by 3 pts)
week 15 Cowboys ( loss)
week 16 Bucs (loss)
Saints had no business beating the Redskins or Falcons , or Miami for that matter ( yes they were on the road, but still, Saints defense is suspect)..the lowly Bucs, with a rookie starting in just his 8th game, beat the Saints at home, with Caddy running WILD against a porous run defense...home crowd didn't help in that one...
we've all seen the ADP 200+ yard games where he flat-out dominates..this is going to be one of those games..
I agree with you on the other game: I like the Colts to bury the Jets...
NY has a hard time defending opposing TE's and Clark is a great one...
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Not buying this one bit. Not from a one game sample 20 years ago. And the ending weeks of this year, which I agree, are concerning, are not as relevant as the playoff game against the Cards. We know they didn't have everybody and the incentive was just not the same -- not nearly what it will be on Sunday. And not for the fans either, for that matter. Anyway, the difference in this game being in NO, as opposed to Minnie, is indeed huge.homefield in New Orleans is overrated. Saints lost a playoff game @ home in 1992 against the Eagles, in a season where the Saints were 12-4, and they got trounced by Philly.that homefield didn't matter against Dallas, or Tampa in weeks 14-15...
I went against the Saints last week for those very reasons, but again, I think they dispelled MOST of those worries against the Cards, so I'm buying that the Saints we saw earlier this season are back. Could be wrong though, obviously.
Totally agree, this is what worries me the most. Like I said, I'm not so sure about this one, and with the line up to 4 1/2 now, I may end up taking the points.
djcolts
Footballguy
In the past decade - 2 road games have not won the conference championship games in the same year. This was shown on Mike and Mike this morning.
ATC1
Footballguy
Just curious, but is this the same "logic" you will use against the Saints IF they make it to the superbowl?We all heard this argument last week. What did you see last week that makes you feel like the same team losing at the end of the season will be in the dome this week? And saying the dome will be the same as it was in week 13 and 14 is just crazy.homefield in New Orleans is overrated. Saints lost a playoff game @ home in 1992 against the Eagles, in a season where the Saints were 12-4, and they got trounced by Philly.that homefield didn't matter against Dallas, or Tampa in weeks 14-15...
Saints have squeaked by in games against lowly opponents:
week 13 Redskins ( won by 3 pts)
week 14 Falcons ( won by 3 pts)
week 15 Cowboys ( loss)
week 16 Bucs (loss)
Saints had no business beating the Redskins or Falcons , or Miami for that matter ( yes they were on the road, but still, Saints defense is suspect)..the lowly Bucs, with a rookie starting in just his 8th game, beat the Saints at home, with Caddy running WILD against a porous run defense...home crowd didn't help in that one...
we've all seen the ADP 200+ yard games where he flat-out dominates..this is going to be one of those games..
I agree with you on the other game: I like the Colts to bury the Jets...
NY has a hard time defending opposing TE's and Clark is a great one...
Nothing about Minny losing the last 3 out of 5? And losing the last 3 on the road does not factor into your momentum argument?
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Breesisdaman
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I think both teams who were the talk most of the season as the Superbowl favorites will actually meet in the Superbowl. That would be the Team that went 13-0 against the team that went 14-0.
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MCguidance
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They've faced great TEs before and still won.Tanner9919 said:homefield in New Orleans is overrated. Saints lost a playoff game @ home in 1992 against the Eagles, in a season where the Saints were 12-4, and they got trounced by Philly.that homefield didn't matter against Dallas, or Tampa in weeks 14-15...Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
Saints have squeaked by in games against lowly opponents:
week 13 Redskins ( won by 3 pts)
week 14 Falcons ( won by 3 pts)
week 15 Cowboys ( loss)
week 16 Bucs (loss)
Saints had no business beating the Redskins or Falcons , or Miami for that matter ( yes they were on the road, but still, Saints defense is suspect)..the lowly Bucs, with a rookie starting in just his 8th game, beat the Saints at home, with Caddy running WILD against a porous run defense...home crowd didn't help in that one...
we've all seen the ADP 200+ yard games where he flat-out dominates..this is going to be one of those games..
I agree with you on the other game: I like the Colts to bury the Jets...
NY has a hard time defending opposing TE's and Clark is a great one...
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Looks like +7.5 is the bet.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Huh? How so? Most predict a fairly close game.
valhallan
Footballguy
Yeah, really. I keep hearing a lot about the Saints' losses down the stretch but not as much about the Vikings'. The Saints lost their games by 7 and 3 points while the Vikes lost by 13, 19, and 6. The excuse is always that they were playing on grass, but can we really assume they would have beat Carolina or Arizona if those teams had turf fields? Grass made 13 and 19 point differences in those contests? The fact is they have one quality road win (GB) in 5 games against top opponents like the Saints. Meanwhile the Saints have quality home wins vs Jets, Giants, Falcons, Patriots, and Cardinals. The two losses were very close and came with key injuries to Shockey, Ellis, and Greer.Anyway, both teams look as solid as they did earlier in the season so we should be in for a treat. Assuming Shockey plays, I think the Saints o-line will handle the Vikes d-line better than most expect. Nicks, Goodwin, and Evans may be the best interior lineman group in the league, while Stinch and Bushrod have been pretty good at the tackles.The battle between Sharper and Favre will be key and unfortunately I think the Vikes have the upperhand there. However, I think Greer will be solid in coverage against Rice so those long touchdowns shouldn't happen. The Vikings would be smart to use ADP early and often. The Saints are at their best when they can score early and force teams to throw. We could talk matchups all day, but the factors I like most are:- finally healthy- Brees > Favre- Payton > Childress- homefield advantage
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Vikings aren't getting all that much either.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Link?
Ravens
Footballguy
N.J. Jets @ Indy ColtsJets [ 18 ] [25.00%]
Colts [ 54 ] [75.00%]
3-1 against the Jets is my observation!
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
That's for an outright win, of course the Colts are going to be favored. Getting "no respect" is a totally different deal. Are any of the Colts, or the media for that matter, really disrespecting the Jets? Nope. The players aren't. I haven't even seen any experts "disrespect" the Jets. It would be a nice card to play, but it's not there.A message board poll is probably not your best indicator on this one, bud.N.J. Jets @ Indy ColtsJets [ 18 ] [25.00%]
Colts [ 54 ] [75.00%]
3-1 against the Jets is my observation!
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I was referring to the poll which was 2 to 1 in favor of the Saints when I checked it and posted that this morning.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Oh, sorry.I was referring to the poll which was 2 to 1 in favor of the Saints when I checked it and posted that this morning.Link?
Ravens
Footballguy
No "Sorry" for me?That's for an outright win, of course the Colts are going to be favored. Getting "no respect" is a totally different deal. Are any of the Colts, or the media for that matter, really disrespecting the Jets? Nope. The players aren't. I haven't even seen any experts "disrespect" the Jets. It would be a nice card to play, but it's not there.A message board poll is probably not your best indicator on this one, bud.N.J. Jets @ Indy ColtsJets [ 18 ] [25.00%]
Colts [ 54 ] [75.00%]
3-1 against the Jets is my observation!
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Yeah, you too man! I've been jumping around thread and forgot where I was. 
Ravens
Footballguy
No problem.It's getting close to 4-1 against the Jests!N.J. Jets @ Indy ColtsJets [ 18 ] [21.69%] Colts [ 65 ] [78.31%] Minn. Vikings @ N.O. SaintsVikings [ 34 ] [40.96%] Saints [ 49 ] [59.04%] Total Votes: 85Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:Yeah, you too man! I've been jumping around thread and forgot where I was.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Jets was a week 4 win, where Dirty Sanchez still didnt understand NFL Qb concept.Giants? Not a quality win this year. Sorry. And you talk about injuries? The Gmen had how many def players hurt this year?
Falcons? A rivalary game, but nothing quality about them.
Pats, good win on national TV. But this is not the Pats of Superbowl wins.
Cards? Good team the past 3 years, def. is terrible. 2 major defenders hurt, Rolle, and Cromartie, no shot in hell to beat the Saints then.
Finally healthy?
You better hope Shockey gets a new toe by sunday. No Shockey for you, means long day for Brees. There is no way the Saints win without Shockey helping with Jarred Allen.
Lastly! No team that has ever lost to Tampa Bay has was the Superbowl!!!!!!!
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Leroy Hoard
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Stat of the day.
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