** Official Chicago Bears Offseason thread ** (1 Viewer)

[RBM]

And now the offseason looks even worse...Hackett gets a 2yr $3.5M Deal, yet we sign booker with a "hometown discount" for the same price

This is really getting frustrating. The Bears have resigned two of the QBs who played poorly last year. So they are hoping someone plays better than they did last year. They may draft a QB, but that provides no help for this year.The offensive line was offensive last year. They got rid of Fred Miller and I believe one of the starting guards. But they have brought in no one to replace either player. They may get help here in the draft. No one on the bench played well enough to unseat any of the starters, yet we seem to think miraculously the line will be better.The running game was horrible last year. Yet we have chosen to stick with the players that couldn't get it done at all last year. Benson is a complete and total waste of a draft pick, but we are going into another season with him as the starter. They may draft a RB and get help there.The Bears were one of the worst receiving cores in the league last year. They lost the #1 and #2 receivers, and chose to replace just Muhammed. I guess they hope that Hester will grow in to a #1, or Bradley will stay healthy. No help coming for this group in the draft. So they are hoping that one of these receivers who hasn't produced will step up. They could have improved the receivers, without breaking the bank, by signing Bryant Johnson or Hackett. They didn't even make an effort. What it looks like to me is that a bad offensive team has gotten worse. The defense, if they can stay healthy, could be one of the top units in the league. But the offense will almost certainly be one of the bottom teams. I think we are in for a long season. I'm about ready to show Angelo to the door.

Really embarrasing. Especially the o-line. I actually wish that I could demand an explanation on why none of the young, promising guards that were available were looked at. So we are going to go with Tait, Garza and Kreutz, plus probably a rookie tackle, and who, Metcalf?I mean, this is really disgraceful.

 

[Max Power]

And now the offseason looks even worse...Hackett gets a 2yr $3.5M Deal, yet we sign booker with a "hometown discount" for the same price

This is really getting frustrating. The Bears have resigned two of the QBs who played poorly last year. So they are hoping someone plays better than they did last year. They may draft a QB, but that provides no help for this year.The offensive line was offensive last year. They got rid of Fred Miller and I believe one of the starting guards. But they have brought in no one to replace either player. They may get help here in the draft. No one on the bench played well enough to unseat any of the starters, yet we seem to think miraculously the line will be better.The running game was horrible last year. Yet we have chosen to stick with the players that couldn't get it done at all last year. Benson is a complete and total waste of a draft pick, but we are going into another season with him as the starter. They may draft a RB and get help there.The Bears were one of the worst receiving cores in the league last year. They lost the #1 and #2 receivers, and chose to replace just Muhammed. I guess they hope that Hester will grow in to a #1, or Bradley will stay healthy. No help coming for this group in the draft. So they are hoping that one of these receivers who hasn't produced will step up. They could have improved the receivers, without breaking the bank, by signing Bryant Johnson or Hackett. They didn't even make an effort. What it looks like to me is that a bad offensive team has gotten worse. The defense, if they can stay healthy, could be one of the top units in the league. But the offense will almost certainly be one of the bottom teams. I think we are in for a long season. I'm about ready to show Angelo to the door.

Really embarrasing. Especially the o-line. I actually wish that I could demand an explanation on why none of the young, promising guards that were available were looked at. So we are going to go with Tait, Garza and Kreutz, plus probably a rookie tackle, and who, Metcalf?I mean, this is really disgraceful.

Metcalf, Beekman or St.Clair will be a starter

 

[Max Power]

Bears tracking Cherilus

The Bears tabbed guard Josh Beekman in the fourth round last year and are taking a hard look at one of his former Boston College linemates.

The Golden Eagles are holding their pro day Tuesday in Chestnut Hill, Mass., and obviously quarterback Matt Ryan will be the top draw. Almost all 32 teams are expected to be represented. Offensive tackle Gosder Cherilus ought to have plenty of onlookers himself. He’s projected as a potential late first-round pick, and according to Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe the Bears and New York Jets have already been in to put him through private workouts.

General manager Jerry Angelo saw Cherilus in person at least twice during the season, traveling to see Boston College play at Notre Dame and then catching the Golden Eagles in the Champs Sports Bowl in Orlando against Michigan State.

Cherilus is 6-6, 315 pounds and some believe he is athletic enough to play on the left side even though he always performed better on the right side in school. Angelo has said he likes the linemen BC produces because they are tough, in the mold of Marc Colombo, his first pick as Bears’ GM in 2002.

Finally some good News...I like Cherilus, hopefully he will hang around until mid rd 2.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

And now the offseason looks even worse...Hackett gets a 2yr $3.5M Deal, yet we sign booker with a "hometown discount" for the same price

That hurts - it would have been one thing if he signed some 5 year deal for $25+ million, but to have Hackett sign somewhere else for that...

 

[twistd]

Bears tracking CherilusThe Bears tabbed guard Josh Beekman in the fourth round last year and are taking a hard look at one of his former Boston College linemates.The Golden Eagles are holding their pro day Tuesday in Chestnut Hill, Mass., and obviously quarterback Matt Ryan will be the top draw. Almost all 32 teams are expected to be represented. Offensive tackle Gosder Cherilus ought to have plenty of onlookers himself. He’s projected as a potential late first-round pick, and according to Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe the Bears and New York Jets have already been in to put him through private workouts. General manager Jerry Angelo saw Cherilus in person at least twice during the season, traveling to see Boston College play at Notre Dame and then catching the Golden Eagles in the Champs Sports Bowl in Orlando against Michigan State.Cherilus is 6-6, 315 pounds and some believe he is athletic enough to play on the left side even though he always performed better on the right side in school. Angelo has said he likes the linemen BC produces because they are tough, in the mold of Marc Colombo, his first pick as Bears’ GM in 2002.Finally some good News...I like Cherilus, hopefully he will hang around until mid rd 2.

I do believe that the first step to rebuilding this offense is shoring up the offensive line. But I don't believe that a good offensive line will give Benson courage. It will not give Grossman a brain, and it will not give any of these receivers speed. The line is the first step, but they are pinning a lot on hope everywhere else.

 

[3nOut]

Per KFFL:

Bears | L. Smith meets with F. Jones

Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:22:33 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports Chicago Bears head coach Lovie Smith had lunch with University of Arkansas RB Felix Jones Monday, March 24.

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Bears | L. Smith meets with McFadden

Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:22:10 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports Chicago Bears head coach Lovie Smith had lunch with University of Arkansas RB Darren McFadden Monday, March 24.

As much as the Bears need OL help, IF McFadden falls to them in the first (doubt it will happen tnough), they should jump on the chance. F. Jones in a later round would't be bad either. Any chance Jones falls to the Bears at 3.7 or later?

 

[Rounders]

I can't imagine Jones falls to the 3rd round. I think that he's a 2nd round pick for sure.

 

[Chadstroma]

Per KFFL:

Bears | L. Smith meets with F. Jones

Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:22:33 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports Chicago Bears head coach Lovie Smith had lunch with University of Arkansas RB Felix Jones Monday, March 24.

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Bears | L. Smith meets with McFadden

Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:22:10 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports Chicago Bears head coach Lovie Smith had lunch with University of Arkansas RB Darren McFadden Monday, March 24.

As much as the Bears need OL help, IF McFadden falls to them in the first (doubt it will happen tnough), they should jump on the chance. F. Jones in a later round would't be bad either. Any chance Jones falls to the Bears at 3.7 or later?

Yea..... keep dreaming.

 

[flapgreen]

Cherilus is 6-6, 315 pounds and some believe he is athletic enough to play on the left side even though he always performed better on the right side in school. Angelo has said he likes the linemen BC produces because they are tough, in the mold of Marc Colombo, his first pick as Bears’ GM in 2002.

Finally some good News...I like Cherilus, hopefully he will hang around until mid rd 2.

How'd that work out for you, Angelo?

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Cherilus is 6-6, 315 pounds and some believe he is athletic enough to play on the left side even though he always performed better on the right side in school. Angelo has said he likes the linemen BC produces because they are tough, in the mold of Marc Colombo, his first pick as Bears’ GM in 2002.

Finally some good News...I like Cherilus, hopefully he will hang around until mid rd 2.

How'd that work out for you, Angelo?

"You're enjoying your dayEverything's going your way

Then along comes Debbie Downer.

Always there to tell you 'bout a new disease

A car accident or killer bees

You'll beg her to spare you, "Debbie, Please!"

But you can't stop Debbie Downer!"

Wah Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

 

[tex]

I can't imagine Jones falls to the 3rd round. I think that he's a 2nd round pick for sure.

If the Cowboys keep both of their 1st rounders, Jones will be a Cowboy if he is still there at 28. I think that's a pretty sure thing.

 

[Rounders]

I can't imagine Jones falls to the 3rd round. I think that he's a 2nd round pick for sure.

If the Cowboys keep both of their 1st rounders, Jones will be a Cowboy if he is still there at 28. I think that's a pretty sure thing. :IBTL:

Got me thinking....With Angelo loving to trade down and acquire more picks, what are the odds that he trades #14 for Dallas's 2 first rounders? I'm not sure if the value works out, just throwing something out there to think about.

 

[Chadstroma]

I can't imagine Jones falls to the 3rd round. I think that he's a 2nd round pick for sure.

If the Cowboys keep both of their 1st rounders, Jones will be a Cowboy if he is still there at 28. I think that's a pretty sure thing.

Got me thinking....With Angelo loving to trade down and acquire more picks, what are the odds that he trades #14 for Dallas's 2 first rounders? I'm not sure if the value works out, just throwing something out there to think about.

I don't think the value works about but beyond that if the Cowboys package their 1st rounders it will be to move in the top 5 and get McFadden. Otherwise, they stay where they are.

 

[mbuehner]

And now the offseason looks even worse...Hackett gets a 2yr $3.5M Deal, yet we sign booker with a "hometown discount" for the same price

This is really getting frustrating. The Bears have resigned two of the QBs who played poorly last year. So they are hoping someone plays better than they did last year. They may draft a QB, but that provides no help for this year.The offensive line was offensive last year. They got rid of Fred Miller and I believe one of the starting guards. But they have brought in no one to replace either player. They may get help here in the draft. No one on the bench played well enough to unseat any of the starters, yet we seem to think miraculously the line will be better.The running game was horrible last year. Yet we have chosen to stick with the players that couldn't get it done at all last year. Benson is a complete and total waste of a draft pick, but we are going into another season with him as the starter. They may draft a RB and get help there.The Bears were one of the worst receiving cores in the league last year. They lost the #1 and #2 receivers, and chose to replace just Muhammed. I guess they hope that Hester will grow in to a #1, or Bradley will stay healthy. No help coming for this group in the draft. So they are hoping that one of these receivers who hasn't produced will step up. They could have improved the receivers, without breaking the bank, by signing Bryant Johnson or Hackett. They didn't even make an effort. What it looks like to me is that a bad offensive team has gotten worse. The defense, if they can stay healthy, could be one of the top units in the league. But the offense will almost certainly be one of the bottom teams. I think we are in for a long season. I'm about ready to show Angelo to the door.

Really embarrasing. Especially the o-line. I actually wish that I could demand an explanation on why none of the young, promising guards that were available were looked at. So we are going to go with Tait, Garza and Kreutz, plus probably a rookie tackle, and who, Metcalf?I mean, this is really disgraceful.

Metcalf, Beekman or St.Clair will be a starter

Here's the really good news- Tait can't stay healthy much less productive at left tackle, so you either play him at right and assumedly a rookie at left, or you let him tear his groin out at left and play the next 13 games with Turnstyle St Clair as your tackle... or another rookie.Either way, if you're unhappy with the QB selection that probably wont be a problem for long. They may need to roster 5 or 6 of em. Here's my best advice to Bears fans- move to Green Bay, and when a majority of Green Bay residents are Bears fans, move the team to somewhere in the AFC West. Thats probably the best hope for this season.

 

[RBM]

Looks like an 0-1 start for our Bears

Bears @ Colts. Opening Sun night game

 

[RBM]

From PFW

Word is the Bears could be very interested in Tulane RB Matt Forté if he’s available when they pick in the second round. Forte’s stock rose after a strong Combine effort, and Bears head coach Lovie Smith and RB coach Tim Spencer reportedly had a private workout set up in early April at Tulane after already having met with Forte face-to-face the third full week of March.

ChicagoMarch 28, 2008 Beekman first in line at left guardWill the Bears possibly be able to fill two gaping holes on their offensive line — right tackle and left guard — in the upcoming draft? The consensus around Halas Hall seems to be that the Bears will be able to fill one of those holes for sure, with perhaps a couple of starting-caliber tackles expected to be available when they pick 14th overall in the first round. But unless the Bears go out on a limb and switch their first-round gears in the direction of a top OG prospect such as Branden Albert, which doesn’t appear too likely, the team’s optimism is guarded, at best, that it will be able to find a left guard in late April who is capable of starting right away. Which brings us to Josh Beekman, the Bears’ fourth-round pick in 2007, who is considered by most team insiders to be the front-runner to take over at left guard in ’08 — even though he barely saw the field during his rookie season. “You keep hearing about how much they like Beekman, that he’s smart and a real hard worker, but you have to wonder why the Bears didn’t put him in the lineup last year after (Terrence) Metcalf got his chance and blew it,” a team source told PFW. There are also concerns about Beekman’s lack of size. He’s listed as 6-2, 310, on NFL.com, “but he certainly doesn’t look that big,” the same source said. “He looks even smaller than (starting C) Olin Kreutz, who’s undersized himself. Beekman could have a problem handling real strong tackles at the pro level.”

 

[ditka85]

Great! The Bears are opening the season at Indy. Nothing like getting blown out by 50 the first game of the year.

 

[flapgreen]

Good game, Bears

 

[Max Power]

Forte in rd 2?

If the Bears like him, he must stink. I see little to no value in a RD2 back. In round one, the Bears could get one of the big three. After that, the next 5-6 backs are all roughly in the same class.

Jones

Charles

Johnson

Rice

Forte

Smith

Hart

Choice

Take your pick...until the Bears can put together an O-line and passing game...any RB will stink

 

[Chadstroma]

From PFW

Word is the Bears could be very interested in Tulane RB Matt Forté if he’s available when they pick in the second round. Forte’s stock rose after a strong Combine effort, and Bears head coach Lovie Smith and RB coach Tim Spencer reportedly had a private workout set up in early April at Tulane after already having met with Forte face-to-face the third full week of March.

ChicagoMarch 28, 2008 Beekman first in line at left guardWill the Bears possibly be able to fill two gaping holes on their offensive line — right tackle and left guard — in the upcoming draft? The consensus around Halas Hall seems to be that the Bears will be able to fill one of those holes for sure, with perhaps a couple of starting-caliber tackles expected to be available when they pick 14th overall in the first round. But unless the Bears go out on a limb and switch their first-round gears in the direction of a top OG prospect such as Branden Albert, which doesn’t appear too likely, the team’s optimism is guarded, at best, that it will be able to find a left guard in late April who is capable of starting right away. Which brings us to Josh Beekman, the Bears’ fourth-round pick in 2007, who is considered by most team insiders to be the front-runner to take over at left guard in ’08 — even though he barely saw the field during his rookie season. “You keep hearing about how much they like Beekman, that he’s smart and a real hard worker, but you have to wonder why the Bears didn’t put him in the lineup last year after (Terrence) Metcalf got his chance and blew it,” a team source told PFW. There are also concerns about Beekman’s lack of size. He’s listed as 6-2, 310, on NFL.com, “but he certainly doesn’t look that big,” the same source said. “He looks even smaller than (starting C) Olin Kreutz, who’s undersized himself. Beekman could have a problem handling real strong tackles at the pro level.”

Either the Bear front office is going to shine as the ultimate brilliant genius think tank or a bunch of bungling morons. So far... I have my money on the later.

 

[Max Power]

PALM BEACH, Fla. - Bears coach Lovie Smith offered a strong endorsement for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama during a breakfast with the media at the NFL meetings Wednesday. His endorsement for running back Cedric Benson wasn't quite as strong.

After an omelet and fresh fruit at the Breakers Hotel, Smith revealed he and Obama have spoken.

"He's a big Bears fan," Smith said. "He even has some advice on the quarterback situation."

Then, without solicitation, Smith said, " I hope he wins the election. I'm a big Barack Obama fan. I believe in his plan for the future."

Some Bears fans might be more concerned about Smith's plan for Benson. In a conversation that lasted about 50 minutes, Smith talked more about Benson than anything.

The running game

Asked if the Bears need a starter at halfback, Smith said in reference to Benson and Adrian Peterson, "We didn't get No. 1 running back-type production most of the year. Do I think the players we have there can do it? Yes, I think they can."

He said Benson continues to rehab from a broken leg and should be ready to participate in the off-season program at some point.

While being clear he was not laying all the blame on Benson, Smith said he does not want to see the same Benson he saw in 2007.

"We weren't pleased with … our running game last year," he said. "We haven't made that a secret. It's the off-season, so we're looking at ways to improve. … There are a lot of good running backs coming out of the draft."

Smith called Benson a "hard worker," but indicated he would like to see the former Texas star lose weight in an effort to gain quickness.

"You look at some of those things and change your body up," he said. "You maybe play at a lighter weight. You do some things differently."

He said he believes Benson is very motivated in part because of the way last season went for him but he also said it's time for him to live up to expectations.

"There comes a time when you need to produce," Smith said. "That's where he is. It's as simple as that."

What seems certain is the Bears will bring in competition for Benson—probably from the draft. But …

"It's probably better getting linemen earlier [in the draft]," Smith said. "More running backs have turned out later in the draft than have offensive linemen or even defensive linemen."

On competition for playing time

Smith did not want to declare any player a starter this early in the off-season.

But when the Bears line up for their off-season team workouts, Smith indicated John St. Clair would take the first rep at right tackle and Terrence Metcalf would take the first rep at right guard. He also said Josh Beekman would be in the mix for playing time.

Smith also addressed the absence of proven playmakers on offense, expressing confidence in wide receivers Devin Hester and Mark Bradley, as well as tight ends Desmond Clark and Greg Olsen.

"Whenever you lose a playmaker, it's a little unsettling," he said, apparently referring to the departed Bernard Berrian. "But I still like what we have on our roster. … The cupboard isn't totally bare, but we need to look to elevate our game even a little more."

On Devin Hester's future

"I think Devin Hester can pretty much be what he wants to be," Smith said. "Can he be a three-down receiver? Definitely."

Smith said the plan is to have Hester return fewer kicks, but will use him on special teams on a limited basis.

"You have to be realistic to know he can't do it all," Smith said.

Smith indicated Danieal Manning could help the Bears on kick returns, and mentioned restricted free-agent receiver Rashied Davis as another possible return man.

Yet that doesn't mean we have seen the last of Hester the return man.

"We're in a game and we need a play and they're kicking the ball off to us, there is a good chance you are going to see him back there," Smith said. "They're punting the ball to us and we need a big play, no matter what part of the game, there is a good chance you are going to see him back there."

Not on the defensive

There are fewer questions on defense, but Smith said he expects Mike Brown to move to free safety after playing strong safety last season. Brown has played free in the past.

The move could have ramifications for Manning, who is considered a better free safety than strong. Smith said he expects Manning to compete at strong safety with Brandon McGowan, Kevin Payne and Adam Archuleta. He also left open the possibility the Bears could add a safety in the coming months.

Smith also said defensive lineman Israel Idonije will be given a longer look.

"There are a few players on our roster who I feel haven't gotten a great opportunity to play," Smith said. "One of them is Israel Idonije. … We're thinking about letting him play more tackle. He can be a 275-pound guy or a 300-pound player with [low] body fat. So we need to get him involved a little bit more."

 

[Max Power]

I love this part...

"I think Devin Hester can pretty much be what he wants to be," Smith said. "Can he be a three-down receiver? Definitely."Smith said the plan is to have Hester return fewer kicks, but will use him on special teams on a limited basis."You have to be realistic to know he can't do it all," Smith said.

Lovie's plan is to take the best KR/PR the NFL has seen in ages and make him a sub-par WR.

"They're punting the ball to us and we need a big play, there is a good chance you are going to see him back there."

This Brilliance is lost on me

 

[RBM]

I love this part...

"I think Devin Hester can pretty much be what he wants to be," Smith said. "Can he be a three-down receiver? Definitely."Smith said the plan is to have Hester return fewer kicks, but will use him on special teams on a limited basis."You have to be realistic to know he can't do it all," Smith said.

Lovie's plan is to take the best KR/PR the NFL has seen in ages and make him a sub-par WR.

"They're punting the ball to us and we need a big play, there is a good chance you are going to see him back there."

This Brilliance is lost on me

You have to give it a shot. The potential is just too great. Either he will turn into Steve Smith, or it doesnt work out and you return him to full time return duties. HAVE TO give it a shot though.

 

[Max Power]

I love this part...

"I think Devin Hester can pretty much be what he wants to be," Smith said. "Can he be a three-down receiver? Definitely."Smith said the plan is to have Hester return fewer kicks, but will use him on special teams on a limited basis."You have to be realistic to know he can't do it all," Smith said.

Lovie's plan is to take the best KR/PR the NFL has seen in ages and make him a sub-par WR.

"They're punting the ball to us and we need a big play, there is a good chance you are going to see him back there."

This Brilliance is lost on me

You have to give it a shot. The potential is just too great. Either he will turn into Steve Smith, or it doesnt work out and you return him to full time return duties. HAVE TO give it a shot though.

I'm not holding my breath on this one. The only thing Smith and Hester have in common is size. Smith might have the best hands in football, Hester drops a dozen kicks a season.You are right though, it can't hurt to try. However I just can't understand what the Bears are thinking. Is it really in the best intrest of the team to take the biggest threat off the field during situations where he has proven himself to be the BEST in the NFL and let him play the slot?Look at some of the best KR/PR over the past 15 yearsDante HallBrian MitchellMel GrayEric MetcalfAll Pro-bowl returners who were average on Offense at best. Really, Give me the most optimistic numbers you think Hester would put up this season...

 

[RBM]

I love this part...

"I think Devin Hester can pretty much be what he wants to be," Smith said. "Can he be a three-down receiver? Definitely."Smith said the plan is to have Hester return fewer kicks, but will use him on special teams on a limited basis."You have to be realistic to know he can't do it all," Smith said.

Lovie's plan is to take the best KR/PR the NFL has seen in ages and make him a sub-par WR.

"They're punting the ball to us and we need a big play, there is a good chance you are going to see him back there."

This Brilliance is lost on me

You have to give it a shot. The potential is just too great. Either he will turn into Steve Smith, or it doesnt work out and you return him to full time return duties. HAVE TO give it a shot though.

I'm not holding my breath on this one. The only thing Smith and Hester have in common is size. Smith might have the best hands in football, Hester drops a dozen kicks a season.You are right though, it can't hurt to try. However I just can't understand what the Bears are thinking. Is it really in the best intrest of the team to take the biggest threat off the field during situations where he has proven himself to be the BEST in the NFL and let him play the slot?Look at some of the best KR/PR over the past 15 yearsDante HallBrian MitchellMel GrayEric MetcalfAll Pro-bowl returners who were average on Offense at best. Really, Give me the most optimistic numbers you think Hester would put up this season...

I dont know about projections, but I do know that its not realistic to expect him to return 7-8 kicks/punts for tds every year. A team cant survive when the only way they can score is to hope to return a kick/punt for a td.

 

[Max Power]

I love this part...

"I think Devin Hester can pretty much be what he wants to be," Smith said. "Can he be a three-down receiver? Definitely."Smith said the plan is to have Hester return fewer kicks, but will use him on special teams on a limited basis."You have to be realistic to know he can't do it all," Smith said.

Lovie's plan is to take the best KR/PR the NFL has seen in ages and make him a sub-par WR.

"They're punting the ball to us and we need a big play, there is a good chance you are going to see him back there."

This Brilliance is lost on me

You have to give it a shot. The potential is just too great. Either he will turn into Steve Smith, or it doesnt work out and you return him to full time return duties. HAVE TO give it a shot though.

I'm not holding my breath on this one. The only thing Smith and Hester have in common is size. Smith might have the best hands in football, Hester drops a dozen kicks a season.You are right though, it can't hurt to try. However I just can't understand what the Bears are thinking. Is it really in the best intrest of the team to take the biggest threat off the field during situations where he has proven himself to be the BEST in the NFL and let him play the slot?Look at some of the best KR/PR over the past 15 yearsDante HallBrian MitchellMel GrayEric MetcalfAll Pro-bowl returners who were average on Offense at best. Really, Give me the most optimistic numbers you think Hester would put up this season...

I dont know about projections, but I do know that its not realistic to expect him to return 7-8 kicks/punts for tds every year. A team cant survive when the only way they can score is to hope to return a kick/punt for a td.

I agree, its not all about TDs though. Teams are kicking the ball out and Hester generally gets the Bears some good starting Field position.I'll give you my view and leave it alone... High end for Hester IMO this season would be about 70 rec 1,000 yards and 6 TD. That is very optimistic. Numbers like that bearly crack the the top 25 WRs in the NFL. Now if Lovie wants to keep Hester as the Main return guy and use him on Offense, that is a different story. Sounds (as of now) that Lovie wants to play him on Offense and use him as a Returner from time to time. Now a 70rec 1,000 6 TD WR is just a run of the mill guy. Numbers like that are replaceable. I don't feel that Hester's return numbers are replacable. This Offense will be lucky to break out of the bottom 10. Field position is going to be bigger this season than it has been over the past few. The Defense will be on the field a lot this year. Bears need solid ST play more than ever. It takes Elite College WRs about 3 seasons to break out in the pros, and yet we are expecting a guy who has half a season at WR in his entire career to be a major factor? Not to mention Hester has little to no Blocking ability. He will be a huge liability in the run game, or it will be a case of "When Hester is on the field, the Bears are throwing" mentality.I'm just very skeptical of this whole thing. And again, I would have no issues with him playing Offense as long as he is the prime returner. I'm lost on the idea that Lovie thinks its a wise move to reduce Hester's touches on Special Teams. I'm hopin for the best

 

[RBM]

Hey, its been almost 6 yrs since a Bear receiver put up those kind of #s

 

[Chadstroma]

I love this part...

"I think Devin Hester can pretty much be what he wants to be," Smith said. "Can he be a three-down receiver? Definitely."Smith said the plan is to have Hester return fewer kicks, but will use him on special teams on a limited basis."You have to be realistic to know he can't do it all," Smith said.

Lovie's plan is to take the best KR/PR the NFL has seen in ages and make him a sub-par WR.

"They're punting the ball to us and we need a big play, there is a good chance you are going to see him back there."

This Brilliance is lost on me

You have to give it a shot. The potential is just too great. Either he will turn into Steve Smith, or it doesnt work out and you return him to full time return duties. HAVE TO give it a shot though.

I'm not holding my breath on this one. The only thing Smith and Hester have in common is size. Smith might have the best hands in football, Hester drops a dozen kicks a season.You are right though, it can't hurt to try. However I just can't understand what the Bears are thinking. Is it really in the best intrest of the team to take the biggest threat off the field during situations where he has proven himself to be the BEST in the NFL and let him play the slot?Look at some of the best KR/PR over the past 15 yearsDante HallBrian MitchellMel GrayEric MetcalfAll Pro-bowl returners who were average on Offense at best. Really, Give me the most optimistic numbers you think Hester would put up this season...

It is one thing to try to develop this guy into a WR but it is a whole different thing to take him off the field on KR/PR so he can be plugged in as a sub-par WR. His hands are crap, as pointed out, he is unable to consistently catch kick offs and punts but now he will be a WR? They do realize that he needs to catch the ball to be a good WR, right? Further, last year, I am really trying to remember any decent routes he ran. In fact, I can not remember him running anything other than a go route. If you insist on trying to make him a WR... whatever... but to pull him off of what he does do well to do it is just stupid.

 

[DoubleG]

Not on the defensive

There are fewer questions on defense, but Smith said he expects Mike Brown to move to free safety after playing strong safety last season. Brown has played free in the past.

The move could have ramifications for Manning, who is considered a better free safety than strong. Smith said he expects Manning to compete at strong safety with Brandon McGowan, Kevin Payne and Adam Archuleta. He also left open the possibility the Bears could add a safety in the coming months.

Oh great, let's move Daniel Manning to a 3rd DB position in 3 years. - becuase he adjusted so well last year. Why? After game three Mike Brown will be out for the season anyway. I used to think Lovey was a decent coach - now I think he got lucky 1 year and the only decent part of his coaching staff is in SF. Dip####.

 

[Donnybrook]

Per KFFL:

Bears | Team interested in B. Leaf?

Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:24:35 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports the Chicago Bears have made inquiries about Oregon QB Brady Leaf.

Intersting name for a QB. Boom/Bust type player I'm guessing.

 

[RexGrossman Fan]

 

[Max Power]

Bears | Talks with T. Harris break off

Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:21:35 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports contract extension talks between the Chicago Bears and DT Tommie Harris broke off Wednesday, April 9. The Bears are believed to have offered a record-setting contract, but it is not known how the money was structured.

 

[Max Power]

NBC5-TV in Chicago reports the Bears might be interested in Mendenhall with the 14th overall pick. The station reports: Teams typically spend three, maybe four, hours with a potential draft pick on these visits, but Mendenhall's visit turned into a seven-hour affair capped off by dinner with head coach Lovie Smith, offensive coordinator Ron Turner and running backs coach Tim Spencer

 

[RBM]

NBC5-TV in Chicago reports the Bears might be interested in Mendenhall with the 14th overall pick. The station reports: Teams typically spend three, maybe four, hours with a potential draft pick on these visits, but Mendenhall's visit turned into a seven-hour affair capped off by dinner with head coach Lovie Smith, offensive coordinator Ron Turner and running backs coach Tim Spencer

Not into it

 

[mbuehner]

If Hester isnt on the field for every punt of the game, its a crime. He spots you 20 yards every punt he's on the field for when they shank it out of bounds. Is Hester going to supply 20 yards of offense on every drive?

 

[ditka85]

mbuehner, love that sig.

 

[sholditch]

Listening to Lovie talk about the players he has is beginning to get to be like listening to W talk about the economy or the War in Iraq. Despite all readily available evidence to the contrary (Grossman can't start, Orton can't perform, Benson can't run, Hester can't catch) he just keeps repeating the same overly-optimistic, completely disconnected statements, as if he believes that if he repeats it enough then it will come true. Someone needs to take away his copy of "The Secret"

 

[Max Power]

Bears | Angelo meets with K. Smith

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:41:09 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports Chicago Bears general manager Jerry Angelo recently met with Central Florida RB Kevin Smith.

 

[Max Power]

Fresh off the Bears’ meeting with Illinois running back Rashard Mendenhall on Thursday, word is the club recently got together with Central Florida’s Kevin Smith. General manager Jerry Angelo was present, our source tells us.

With two weeks to go until the draft, clubs are working as diligently to put out smokescreens as they are to polish off final preparations.

“Jerry invented the smokescreen,” one prominent agent said in a conversation Thursday.

That’s what interest in Mendenhall would appear to be. The need at offensive tackle is alarming and it’s much easier to find serviceable backs than it is serviceable tackles. Interest in Smith could be more genuine.

Smith is an interesting prospect and he revealed in Thursday’s South Florida Sun-Sentinel that he’s had a couple private workouts lately but has been told to keep a wrap on the identities of the clubs.

``If I could tell you, I would,’’ Smith told the Sun-Sentinel. ``But I don’t want to mess up their promises to me by breaking my promise to them.’’

Agent Drew Rosenhaus did not respond to a message seeking confirmation on the Bears’ meeting with Smith.

Smith visited the Miami Dolphins for a workout today as a local prospect.

The 6-1, 217-pounder ran a 4.53-second 40-yard dash at the combine and improved the figure to 4.47 at his pro day March 20 (that the Bears attended). He’s added nine pounds of muscle since his college season ended and figures to be selected somewhere in the first three rounds. The Bears have already looked over some backs who might be available when they select at No. 44 in the second round—Texas’ Jamaal Charles, Tulane’s Matt Forte and Arkansas’ Felix Jones. Jones has a chance to be selected in the back end of the first round.

Smith ran for 2,567 yards, tops in the NCAA, and 29 touchdowns last season and here are some highlights.

Posted by Brad Biggs on April 11, 2008 05:16 PM | Permalink

 

[Spiderman]

Bears | Angelo meets with K. SmithFri, 11 Apr 2008 15:41:09 -0700Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports Chicago Bears general manager Jerry Angelo recently met with Central Florida RB Kevin Smith.

The Bears are going to take a RB with their 2nd or 1st 3rd round pick. Given the depth at RB in this draft, I don't see them taking Mendenhall.

 

[Spiderman]

NBC5-TV in Chicago reports the Bears might be interested in Mendenhall with the 14th overall pick. The station reports: Teams typically spend three, maybe four, hours with a potential draft pick on these visits, but Mendenhall's visit turned into a seven-hour affair capped off by dinner with head coach Lovie Smith, offensive coordinator Ron Turner and running backs coach Tim Spencer

I wouldn't be shocked if they took him, but I think they may be showing this perceived level of interest because Detroit will probably take him with the #15 pick. In other words, if you want him, the Bears could be a trading partner. I still believe 1st round is a OT.

 

[sholditch]

It has to be if they have any hope of resurrecting the running game. Last mock I saw had Jeff Otah going to them, but there's a LT from Vanderbilt that Kiper said they should be looking at there.

 

[Spiderman]

It has to be if they have any hope of resurrecting the running game. Last mock I saw had Jeff Otah going to them, but there's a LT from Vanderbilt that Kiper said they should be looking at there.

Otah is considered to be a very good run blocker, and Vandy's Chris Williams is considered to be a better prospect than Otah. Several mocks have Williams a little higher than #14, but it'll be close.

 

[3nOut]

It has to be if they have any hope of resurrecting the running game. Last mock I saw had Jeff Otah going to them, but there's a LT from Vanderbilt that Kiper said they should be looking at there.

Otah is considered to be a very good run blocker, and Vandy's Chris Williams is considered to be a better prospect than Otah. Several mocks have Williams a little higher than #14, but it'll be close.

I'd be happy with either one.

 

[sholditch]

It has to be if they have any hope of resurrecting the running game. Last mock I saw had Jeff Otah going to them, but there's a LT from Vanderbilt that Kiper said they should be looking at there.

Otah is considered to be a very good run blocker, and Vandy's Chris Williams is considered to be a better prospect than Otah. Several mocks have Williams a little higher than #14, but it'll be close.

I'd be happy with either one.

is your profile name a prediction for 2008?

 

[Spiderman]

It has to be if they have any hope of resurrecting the running game. Last mock I saw had Jeff Otah going to them, but there's a LT from Vanderbilt that Kiper said they should be looking at there.

Otah is considered to be a very good run blocker, and Vandy's Chris Williams is considered to be a better prospect than Otah. Several mocks have Williams a little higher than #14, but it'll be close.

I'd be happy with either one.

I'm pretty confident that they aren't going to trade down or take anything other than whatever OT they have highest ranked. At least one of these guys will be there, Otah in particular, and maybe Williams. Given their need for a RT, and the depth at RB in this draft, I think this is a pretty straight forward pick for Chicago. I'm not a big fan of Otah though as I see him possibly ending up at guard as he does run block well, but there are questions about his pass blocking, from what I've been reading.

 

[Max Power]

Deion: "Hester isn't happy with his contract"

From Devin Hester’s mind to Deion Sanders’ lips ... or something like that.

Everyone knows the sensational return man has a close friend and confidant in Sanders, and his buddy did the talking for him appearing Tuesday on the NFL Network’s “Total Access.” Sanders was discussing the slate of games the league will televise, including the Week 15 meeting between New Orleans and Chicago Thursday, Dec. 11 at Soldier Field.

“Come on, the quarterback problems of the Chicago Bears are still there and then they gave away every receiver they had that was halfway decent,” Sanders said. “They’re looking for tremendous things from this guy, Devin Hester, but Devin Hester isn’t happy with his contract and he deserves to be paid amongst the league’s best.

“So I look at a myriad of problems for the Chicago Bears and they’ve got to address those issues now.”

There you have it. Add Hester to the expanding list of employees at 1000 Football Drive who are unhappy with their paycheck. Get in line.

The Bears have had only preliminary discussions with agent Eugene Parker, and with two years remaining on Hester’s rookie contract, this isn’t going to be an easy problem to solve. Hester desires to be paid among the league’s elite players and he bolsters his case with the fact that he’s scored more touchdowns the last two seasons than anyone else on the roster. He can point to games in which he directly impacted the outcome. Hester’s case is that he forces the opponent to adjust every time he steps on the field. If he makes strides as a receiver this season, his price will only go up.

Want a safe bet? Hester is aiming to get money in line with the $42 million, six-year contract Bernard Berrian received from the Minnesota Vikings. But he’d surely settle for fewer years. Parker has been setting up his clients with shorter contracts to get them back to the bargaining table sooner. He did just that in Arizona with wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald. The Cardinals were on the hook to Fitzgerald for more than $32 million over the next two seasons. Parker brokered a four-year deal worth $40 million that includes $30 million guaranteed. The beauty of it? It gets Fitzgerald back to free agency in four years when he is 28, ready to take another bite from the apple.

The Bears have $16 million in salary-cap room and would like to extend Hester and defensive tackle Tommie Harris. They’re nowhere near that goal right now. The good thing is we are five months until the season begins

Oh boy...

 

[sholditch]

He deserves to the highest-paid return specialist and that's it. Having the most TDs on the Bears is like being the tallest midget. The guy can barely catch or run a route, and wants elite money. Well, to anyone who knows anything about the McCaskies, this might as well have been a demand for a trade or release. They won't pay elite money to anyone. Just look how much we're paying the face of the franchise.

 

[RBM]

Having the most TDs on the Bears is like being the tallest midget.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I open this thread every time it's bumped, looking for new lolfuel. Rarely am I let down.