Official Countdown to Urban Meyer becoming an NFL HC! (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

2 years at Bowling Green...2 years at Utah...2 years at Florida capping it with the Nat Championship.

I contend the biggest reason Meyer was crying for his Gators to get in as how small the window of opp can be. He knows the SEC is only getting harder. The coaches and teams in the SEC is tremendous and the likelihood Florida can compete year in and year out for the Nat Champ the way USC and other schools have done lately...not too good. It will never be a better time for Meyer to make the jump to the NFL. It might be a short run in the NFL...Jimmy Johnson had a fast and furious run in Dallas lasting only 4 years IIRC.

He has momentum...I am not sure his offense would parlay to success in the NFL. And college coaches traditionally do not do well in the NFL. JJ was the exception, not the rule. Most of the HC around the NFL were either OC or DC for other successful coaches. Dungy, Bellichick, Billick, Payton, Reid, Lovie Smith...they all were working for NFL teams as OC/DC before they became a HC...so Meyer is not likely to succeed at the next level. Don't take it personal UF fans, please.

 

[redman]

I view Meyer in being Spurrier-esque in that his system is really geared only for college. He may be able to make up for that by being more organized and a better manager than Spurrier, but that's my thought. It's no coincidence that Meyer has spent his entire career in college.

 

[-OZ-]

I think we're entering a time where more high profile college coaches find their niche and stay in college. Carroll and Saban both realize they are much better off in college, I think Meyer is wiser than they were. The money isn't an issue, and while the challenge will draw many, I don't think we'll see Meyer leave. At least any time soon.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Reid wasn't even an OC, he was a quarterbacks coach. His hiring was rather controversial at the time because he'd never even been a coordinator. But his status as a protege of Holmgren and a tutor of Favre was what made him draw interest.

 

[Mister CIA]

Random interruption - didn't Meyer choose Florida over Notre Dame? and if so, why?

 

[aposulli]

Random interruption - didn't Meyer choose Florida over Notre Dame? and if so, why?

Nice weather.That and way more opportunity to recruit better players.

 

[aposulli]

Now that Carroll apparantly said no, the window is open for Huizenga to make a run.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Dude loves Florida.

I would say the only team who

would have a shot at him would be the Dolphins.

I don't see it happening though.

 

[x260bm]

I think Meyer is a great college coach and should probably stay at the college level. He has a good thing going now. Why risk going to the NFL? He could coach Florida for 20 years. The NFL is a completely different animal. Coaches change jobs every 2 or 3 years. I also think NFL teams should concentrate on NFL assistants and leave college coaches alone unless they have been at the NFL level recently. Otherwise there is too much of an adjustment that needs to be made.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Random interruption - didn't Meyer choose Florida over Notre Dame? and if so, why?

Nice weather.That and way more opportunity to recruit better players.

Agreed. It's also much easier to get a borderline college kid but great football player into UF than ND.

 

[Englishteacher]

I'd much rather have a great G.M. than a great college coach for my NFL franchise.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Well what Meyer needs is to take over a team that is ready for a Championship since that was he's done his whole career. Let someone else do the work in recruiting/drafting like Ron Zook then bring Meyer in for the cherry on the sundae.

 

[elcohiba]

If some guy named Sarkisian is the front runner for the Raider job, then why the heck not. Oh yes its because Oakland is "special".

 

[lions327]

Well what Meyer needs is to take over a team that is ready for a Championship since that was he's done his whole career. Let someone else do the work in recruiting/drafting like Ron Zook then bring Meyer in for the cherry on the sundae.

 

[redman]

Random interruption - didn't Meyer choose Florida over Notre Dame? and if so, why?

Nice weather.That and way more opportunity to recruit better players.

Agreed. It's also much easier to get a borderline college kid but great football player into UF than ND.

I don't think I agree with this. All things being equal, Florida is still pulling players almost exclusively out of the Southeast. Notre Dame has a national recruiting base. That N.D. has failed to use that competitive advantage (and let's not forget that Charlie Weiss is has been working with Willingham's players) doesn't change the fact that they have those roots. I'm not at all putting down on the Southeast region BTW - that's a football hotbed. But it alone can't compete with a school that can (again potentially) recruit not only from there, but also from California, the mid-west and the Texas region too.Might not Meyer have looked at both programs and decided that N.D.'s program had a lot more work that needed to be done before it could win? Let's not forget that Meyer's only lasted for two years at each head coaching stop he's made, so his lasting power is somewhat in question.

 

[cr8f]

Reid wasn't even an OC, he was a quarterbacks coach. His hiring was rather controversial at the time because he'd never even been a coordinator. But his status as a protege of Holmgren and a tutor of Favre was what made him draw interest.

When Holmgren left his named replacement was Reid, but Wolf decided to hire Rhodes instead. A big mistake.

 

[cr8f]

Now that Carroll apparantly said no, the window is open for Huizenga to make a run.

If he again talks someone into taking the job that doesn't want it they will fail again. Hire someone who wants the job rather than a big name.

 

[Bojang0301]

Well what Meyer needs is to take over a team that is ready for a Championship since that was he's done his whole career. Let someone else do the work in recruiting/drafting like Ron Zook then bring Meyer in for the cherry on the sundae.

Haha sounds perfect for Indy.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Random interruption - didn't Meyer choose Florida over Notre Dame? and if so, why?

Nice weather.That and way more opportunity to recruit better players.

Agreed. It's also much easier to get a borderline college kid but great football player into UF than ND.

I don't think I agree with this. All things being equal, Florida is still pulling players almost exclusively out of the Southeast. Notre Dame has a national recruiting base. That N.D. has failed to use that competitive advantage (and let's not forget that Charlie Weiss is has been working with Willingham's players) doesn't change the fact that they have those roots. I'm not at all putting down on the Southeast region BTW - that's a football hotbed. But it alone can't compete with a school that can (again potentially) recruit not only from there, but also from California, the mid-west and the Texas region too.Might not Meyer have looked at both programs and decided that N.D.'s program had a lot more work that needed to be done before it could win? Let's not forget that Meyer's only lasted for two years at each head coaching stop he's made, so his lasting power is somewhat in question.

Agreed 100% on Notre Dame's ability to recruit nationally. By no means am I making excuses for them.My point relates to GPA/SAT scores. A kid with a 2.0/700 SAT score doesn't get into Notre Dame no matter how good he is. Most programs will bend their standards for the right players. I've heard many former ND coaches speak of their frustrations in that area. The Holtz era had some leniency but since then ND has raised the bar and it's hurt their football team on the field.

 

[cartel]

Random interruption - didn't Meyer choose Florida over Notre Dame? and if so, why?

Nice weather.That and way more opportunity to recruit better players.

Agreed. It's also much easier to get a borderline college kid but great football player into UF than ND.

I don't think I agree with this. All things being equal, Florida is still pulling players almost exclusively out of the Southeast. Notre Dame has a national recruiting base. That N.D. has failed to use that competitive advantage (and let's not forget that Charlie Weiss is has been working with Willingham's players) doesn't change the fact that they have those roots. I'm not at all putting down on the Southeast region BTW - that's a football hotbed. But it alone can't compete with a school that can (again potentially) recruit not only from there, but also from California, the mid-west and the Texas region too.Might not Meyer have looked at both programs and decided that N.D.'s program had a lot more work that needed to be done before it could win? Let's not forget that Meyer's only lasted for two years at each head coaching stop he's made, so his lasting power is somewhat in question.

I believe going to UF also had something to do with the way the contract at Utah was written. I believe he did not have to pay a buyout if he went to UF but did for ND (sounds weird bu I believe it is the truth). As for his lasting power---come on---each stop was a significant step up from the last. I would be suprised if he is another job in the next two years (let alone 10).One last question. If ND has such an overwhelming competitive advantage in recruiting when compared with everyone else why aren't they competing for national championship every year (ie top 5 at the end of the season...not overrated at the beginning). Please do not tell me standards. If there is an overwhelming advantage I would think you could find a few able student/giften atheletes amongst the ones that "do not meet ND standards." Thoughts?

 

[Wilbur Wood]

Random interruption - didn't Meyer choose Florida over Notre Dame? and if so, why?

Nice weather.That and way more opportunity to recruit better players.

Agreed. It's also much easier to get a borderline college kid but great football player into UF than ND.

I don't think I agree with this. All things being equal, Florida is still pulling players almost exclusively out of the Southeast. Notre Dame has a national recruiting base. That N.D. has failed to use that competitive advantage (and let's not forget that Charlie Weiss is has been working with Willingham's players) doesn't change the fact that they have those roots. I'm not at all putting down on the Southeast region BTW - that's a football hotbed. But it alone can't compete with a school that can (again potentially) recruit not only from there, but also from California, the mid-west and the Texas region too.Might not Meyer have looked at both programs and decided that N.D.'s program had a lot more work that needed to be done before it could win? Let's not forget that Meyer's only lasted for two years at each head coaching stop he's made, so his lasting power is somewhat in question.

I believe going to UF also had something to do with the way the contract at Utah was written. I believe he did not have to pay a buyout if he went to UF but did for ND (sounds weird bu I believe it is the truth). As for his lasting power---come on---each stop was a significant step up from the last. I would be suprised if he is another job in the next two years (let alone 10).One last question. If ND has such an overwhelming competitive advantage in recruiting when compared with everyone else why aren't they competing for national championship every year (ie top 5 at the end of the season...not overrated at the beginning). Please do not tell me standards. If there is an overwhelming advantage I would think you could find a few able student/giften atheletes amongst the ones that "do not meet ND standards." Thoughts?

My understanding as to a key driver that drove Meyer to UF instead of ND was that Meyer wanted assurances from ND that they would "relax" the admissions standards for football players back to those in effect during the Holtz Era. ND gave "lip service" to Meyer that they would "work with him" but were non-committal. Meyer has a great recruiting class of his own lined up to come to UF this fall (prior to the national championship). He is posed to be the premier Florida Football Factory for years to come.