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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (15 Viewers)
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The Commish
Footballguy
I'm trying something new here. I'm going to put aside the obvious assumptions that this is just a mere attempt to deflect from the valid point made or a poor attempt at trying to equate two things that aren't meaningfully similar and ask you why you chose to respond to my comment above with this response. What, in your view, do they have to do with each other? You should probably also know that I am NOT a fan of our healthcare system being a "for profit" enterprise, so you'll get no argument out of me when it comes to the money these companies make off sick people in this country. That's not unique to this vaccine either....for me anyway.Can't help but wonder how many billions people have generated in this space throwing out this sort of stuff. Always follow the money, right?
How many billions did Pfizer and Moderna grift off U.S. taxpayers?
fatness
Footballguy
I found another site making good money off vaccine misinformation and resistance: Real Science
Front page features an article about Chris Sky, an article stating "Vaccinated people may now be asking themselves: “Why isn’t my doctor warning me about the likelihood or probability of a severe adverse reaction I might have?” ", an Ivermectin study saying that "strict regular use of IVM led to a 100% reduction in hospitalization, and a 90% reduction in death."
And the misinformation site also features another article on its front page claiming (without evidence of course) that young athlete deaths are due to the COVID vaccine.
January 2023 - (Day/Month/Year)
You've probably seen this article's "findings" recently. Very recently.
Front page features an article about Chris Sky, an article stating "Vaccinated people may now be asking themselves: “Why isn’t my doctor warning me about the likelihood or probability of a severe adverse reaction I might have?” ", an Ivermectin study saying that "strict regular use of IVM led to a 100% reduction in hospitalization, and a 90% reduction in death."
And the misinformation site also features another article on its front page claiming (without evidence of course) that young athlete deaths are due to the COVID vaccine.
January 2023 - (Day/Month/Year)
You've probably seen this article's "findings" recently. Very recently.
The Commish
Footballguy
Have we devolved into merely an obituary page? My find:
www.wsaz.com
www.cbsnews.com
It's amazing what you can find if you google "kid dies of heart attack"....a whole bunch of kids who die from heart attacks. Who'd have thunk it.
High school senior dies after suffering heart attack at school, officials say
A Las Vegas student died after he unexpectedly suffered cardiac arrest while at school.
13-Year-Old Boy Dies While Playing Football In Pittsburgh
A 13-year-old boy died at a local hospital after he collapsed while running off a field in Windgap.
www.cbsnews.com
It's amazing what you can find if you google "kid dies of heart attack"....a whole bunch of kids who die from heart attacks. Who'd have thunk it.
The Commish
Footballguy
Wouldn't asserting the above require you knowing peoples' positions? What are you seeing that is inconsistent in peoples' positions that spurn this sort of accusation?
LawFitz
Footballguy
Sooner or later this will get to the mainstream... They cannot hide this stuff forever, while the drumbeat GROWS.
Recent Data Shows ‘Stunning Increase’ in Serious Harm Reports in Young Healthy Pilots
Scoresman
Footballguy
Not surprising considering the rise in deaths he keeps posting actually started before COVID was even here.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Then post something that has peer reviewed studies that actually demonstrates what you are trying to say? The burden is on you to give this proof and also to be able to identify misinformation.
The Commish
Footballguy
Yeah....I gave a couple of opportunities to respond to meaningful questions. He declined and just went with name-calling instead. Thought I'd try one last time. His mind is made up and now he's on the search to validate. Guess we just wish him well and move on. We'll be back to the "they're all in it together and keeping the truth from us" shortly.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Aside from the fact that most scientific studies are preceded with this type of real-world observation and data analysis, which ultimately leads to someone(s) conducting an investigational study, we have the known issues of nefarious and onerous funding and publication blacklisting. Who can afford to pay for the studies you so vehemently demand? Really, only two entities - Big Pharma and Big Govt - both of whom have obscene conflicts of interest at this point from revealing anything that might undermine the 'safe and effective' religion they've washed upon the masses. The studies that are being done simply get ignored or dismissed by your vax bros anyway. Remember the issue with loss of igG3 production?
'Science' is now almost exclusively brought to you by Pfizer. Sooner you realize that and consider the ramifications, the better for you and all around you.
LawFitz
Footballguy
And it's not just athletes that are suffering...
The athletes and celebrities are the ones receiving news reporting. They are the tip of the iceberg.
PERFORMERS COLLAPSING ON CAMERA OR STAGE IN 2022-2023
The athletes and celebrities are the ones receiving news reporting. They are the tip of the iceberg.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Here's what that Rasmusson poll I posted upthread - where 28% knew someone who died from a Covid vax - looks like in anecdotal form...
This account has retweeted over 22k direct accounts of vaccine injuries. Read them yourselves.
This account has retweeted over 22k direct accounts of vaccine injuries. Read them yourselves.
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LawFitz
Footballguy
Veritas just dropped more footage of Pfizer Director Jordon Trishton Walker's candid camera commentary. He admits they know that menstrual cycles are being affected, and that the shots seem to be having a hormonal effect.
rumble.com
Sad and frightening how many of you wrote this off when the first videos dropped last week. It's not like this company and industry have a stellar ethical track record pre-Covid. Why you guys so faithfully attach yourselves to their very crafted narratives, I struggle to understand, except when I remind myself of this quote...
"It's much easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled."
Not brought to you by Pfizer.
Pfizer Director Concerned Over Women's Reproductive Health After COVID-19 Vaccinations
NEW: Pfizer Director Jordon Trishton Walker Shares Concern for COVID Vaccine Effect on Women’s Reproductive Health … ‘There is Something Irregular About the Menstrual Cycles’ … ‘Affecting Something Ho
rumble.com
Sad and frightening how many of you wrote this off when the first videos dropped last week. It's not like this company and industry have a stellar ethical track record pre-Covid. Why you guys so faithfully attach yourselves to their very crafted narratives, I struggle to understand, except when I remind myself of this quote...
"It's much easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled."
Not brought to you by Pfizer.
LawFitz
Footballguy
You'll get nothing because you repeatedly come from a disingenuous place. Fool me once, shame on you.
LawFitz
Footballguy
We all hate anecdotes, but this one is worthy...
"Medical students frequently rotate through my office. I ask them all the same questions. Were you required by the school to take the vaccine to be able to continue to participate in clinical activities? Did you sign a consent form before getting the shots? What did the consent form say? Did you read the package insert (a blank sheet of paper)? Do you have any idea how the "vaccine" works? The answer to the first question is always "yes". There are never any answers to the subsequent questions. Only blank stares. This speaks for tomorrow's doctors and their ability to question and think for themselves. Critical thinking is apparently gone."
(Among doctors)
"Medical students frequently rotate through my office. I ask them all the same questions. Were you required by the school to take the vaccine to be able to continue to participate in clinical activities? Did you sign a consent form before getting the shots? What did the consent form say? Did you read the package insert (a blank sheet of paper)? Do you have any idea how the "vaccine" works? The answer to the first question is always "yes". There are never any answers to the subsequent questions. Only blank stares. This speaks for tomorrow's doctors and their ability to question and think for themselves. Critical thinking is apparently gone."
(Among doctors)
LawFitz
Footballguy
Read this. Over and over.
"At a very highly ranked school in the 1970s I was taught that pharmaceutical and device companies almost always lie to get products approved.
"I was taught how to read research papers, and how to recognize the glaring errors and outright lies contained in most of them, particularly when lots of money is at stake.
"I was taught research journals, university departments and professional societies are whores for sale.
"I was taught almost everybody teaching courses on a pharma or device company's dime is lying and exaggerating to convince people to use garbage products.
"For knowing this and for wanting to keep people healthy I'm considered a disruptive persona non grata. I don't give a **** what the Administration wants. I'm going to do what's best for my fellow humans."
Last paragraph sums me up entirely. In case you were wondering. Bless you. And cheers. All of you, even the many who would have me quartered for zagging.
"At a very highly ranked school in the 1970s I was taught that pharmaceutical and device companies almost always lie to get products approved.
"I was taught how to read research papers, and how to recognize the glaring errors and outright lies contained in most of them, particularly when lots of money is at stake.
"I was taught research journals, university departments and professional societies are whores for sale.
"I was taught almost everybody teaching courses on a pharma or device company's dime is lying and exaggerating to convince people to use garbage products.
"For knowing this and for wanting to keep people healthy I'm considered a disruptive persona non grata. I don't give a **** what the Administration wants. I'm going to do what's best for my fellow humans."
Last paragraph sums me up entirely. In case you were wondering. Bless you. And cheers. All of you, even the many who would have me quartered for zagging.
The Commish
Footballguy
The next time you have an honest conversation in this thread will be the first. It's not unique to the interaction between you and me. You aren't fooling anyone with that garbage. I get nothing because you have nothing.
You'll get nothing because you repeatedly come from a disingenuous place. Fool me once, shame on you.
I DO appreciate the balls it takes to label someone disingenuous while posting "news" from Project Veritas, Epoch Times, various uncited youtube sources, links to people dying of heart problems where in the very article it's said the cause of death (never having to do with the vaccine) and the like.
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The Commish
Footballguy
See....like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west
The Commish
Footballguy
There is no room for "belief" in this stuff.....I go by what the evidence/peer reviewed study tells me and don't extrapolate further. That's why you have a problem with me. I won't go into your land of "what ifs" and "beliefs". You don't get to complain about others being disingenuous when you're doing the EXACT same thing. Be the change you claim you want to see. And to be clear, I dismiss ALL the media....not even a factor in my calculus. They are a worthless drain on our society. Yet another difference between us.The next time you have an honest conversation in this thread will be the first. It's not unique to the interaction between you and me. You aren't fooling anyone with that garbage. I get nothing because you have nothing.
You'll get nothing because you repeatedly come from a disingenuous place. Fool me once, shame on you.
I DO appreciate the balls it takes to label someone disingenuous while posting "news" from Project Veritas, Epoch Times, various uncited youtube sources, links to people dying of heart problems where in the very article it's said the cause of death (never having to do with the vaccine) and the like.
You get nothing because you come with contempt. Nothing about you is honest, so nothing is what you get. Disingenuous is exactly the right word to describe the way you operate.
Disregard alternative media all you like but they report plenty that people should be aware of and properly consider... Great example is the candid admissions of that Pfizer Director. You *don't want to believe* the info, so you attack the messenger to assuage your (I have no doubt at this point, extreme) inner anxieties. Classic logic fallacy, and your regular MO. And yet another reason why it's pointless to engage with you.
One thing I DO agree with you on is my contempt for this tripe you post. That is ABSOLUTELY true. It's causing people to make poor decisions and die way earlier than they need to, so yeah, I have a problem with that garbage. I make no secrets of that.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
The anti-vax grifters make bank on disinfo. It's all about casting a wide net for conspiracy fans and making $. I suppose anyone would consider pumping out trash for millions a year, especially when there are tons of people eager to consume it.
www.medpagetoday.com
Anti-Vax Newsletters Pull in $2.5M on Substack
Experts on the platform wary: 'My life has been threatened because of disinformation'
www.medpagetoday.com
LawFitz
Footballguy
So much irony. Tripe and contempt and projection are what your posts are all about. You won't drag me into your gutter. Don't bother engaging with me again with your 'honest' questions. I see you wholly.
LawFitz
Footballguy
The anti-vax grifters make bank on disinfo. It's all about casting a wide net for conspiracy fans and making $. I suppose anyone would consider pumping out trash for millions a year, especially when there are tons of people eager to consume it.
Anti-Vax Newsletters Pull in $2.5M on Substack
Experts on the platform wary: 'My life has been threatened because of disinformation'
Cool. Now do the biggest grifter of all: Pfizer.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
LawFitz
Footballguy
Yeah, let's trust this company with our collective health. SMDH
2018-2020: Pfizer’s annual revenues remain
flat at about $40 billion—primarily due to
patent monopolies on many of its most
price-gouging profitable products expiring.
2021: In a remarkable example of brilliant
strategic planning, Pfizer’s annual revenues
skyrocket in the wake of the global Covid
plandemic pandemic. Despite receiving
billions of dollars in public R&D funding,
Pfizer and other vaccine makers are able to
overcharge customers as much as 24 times
their production cost, a $41 billion windfall.
2022: Propelled by an unprecedented global
mass vaccination effort—spearheaded by
Pfizer lobbyist U.S. Chief Medical Advisor
Anthony Fauci and fuelled by media hysteria
medical precaution—Pfizer’s vaccine
revenues alone are expected to swell to $54
billion, accounting for half of total profits.
As a further shot in the arm to the company’s
bottom line, CEO Albert Bourla says it has
the capacity to produce as many as four
billion doses of booster vaccine annually.
If the company can continue employing
patent monopolies fair reimbursement for
it’s R&D costs, strong-arm tactics and
secret government contracts persuasive
negotiation, Pfizer’s vaccines will remain
on track to become the top selling products
in pharmaceutical industry history.
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Doug B
Footballguy
No.
Pfizer CEO says people who spread misinformation on Covid vaccines are ‘criminals’ (CNBC, 11/9/2021 with video)
AAABatteries
Footballguy
No offense but you keep replying to him too. It's on us to police ourselves and ignore him.
edited - no need to rock the boat
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Doug B
Footballguy
You're right. I had a moment of weakness.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Replying is fine, but it's turning for the worse at the moment.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Thanks. I'll edit that part for the sake of accuracy. Now disprove the important stuff related to Pfizer's long evil past or the tens of billions of dollars they've grifted from US taxpayers with these neither safe nor effective experimental 'vaccines.'
The Commish
Footballguy
There's nothing productive going on here. Hasn't been for weeks. No idea how it's still up.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
To say they are not effective is just beyond the pale. If you want to argue that there are more risks associated with the vaccines than what has been reported -- fine. But the vaccines have undoubtedly saved millions of lives.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
At the risk of being political, I think this is an important coronavirus book that everyone should read.
Doug B
Footballguy
I wouldn't say that.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Depends on the effect we are talking about. See below taken from a different site.
People were coerced into taking these jabs in order to 'prevent the spread.' That was but one of way too many falsehoods...
SpurrierisisGod
Footballguy
Well, it was a run...
I for one will never understand why a person makes it their personal crusade and die on a hill for matters that are mostly personal choices. This thread WAS about information and I appreciate those that contributed objectjvely. We all see the same stuff and make our own decisions - this thread wasn't about thumping your chest to try and prove you were right for the better part of 2-3 years. The last month or so it's been unbearable. Everyone stay safe.
I for one will never understand why a person makes it their personal crusade and die on a hill for matters that are mostly personal choices. This thread WAS about information and I appreciate those that contributed objectjvely. We all see the same stuff and make our own decisions - this thread wasn't about thumping your chest to try and prove you were right for the better part of 2-3 years. The last month or so it's been unbearable. Everyone stay safe.
worrierking
Footballguy
Hunter Brown died of a blood clot from a football injury: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-force-academy-cadet-hunter-brown-autopsy-results/
As a friend of his family, I am respectfully asking that you stop using his tragic death for your disinformation campaign.
LawFitz
Footballguy
It still is. Not all of it convenient, unfortunately.
Doug B
Footballguy
Thank you
LawFitz
Footballguy
Sorry for your loss - I'll remove his name from that list. But let's also be honest, the latter part of your statement contradicts respect.
worrierking
Footballguy
Intentionally.
LawFitz
Footballguy
So you were being disingenuous. I deleted his name anyway. Good day.
The Commish
Footballguy
You need to raise your bar then GB.
By the way, has anyone else noticed that the spamming of this thread really picked up when the info on Merck's covid pill came out and when the China covid balloon was discovered? Almost like an attempt to destract.
The Commish
Footballguy
All the conspiracy posts and posts tailing on bog pharma stem from politics and are allowed. Not sure why youd be concerned about your suggestion
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