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Given the ability for this virus to transfer seemingly fairly easily, why would you not take every precaution? I wouldn't drive past the docks where one of these cruise ships are at let alone get this close to someone that has been identified with symptoms without being in level B hazmat protection but hey, that's me.
Making a demographic call based on the descriptive language and other clues, alongside actuarial tables and real world experience. Plus fat people are just sicklier in general.
India will have much less chance of containing this, much less state conrtol and probably too "soft" to maintain quarantine in large cities
Why is getting on a cruise ship any different than going to the mall? Or a hotel? Taking a land vacation at Disney? Going to an all inclusive resort in Mexico?
Really? Is it?
I don't know about the suspected cases but if what I'm reading is correct they turned all the other passengers lose and they're readying the ship to go back out, it was supposed to be today but they've delayed for a day to get disinfected. I hope the people doing the disinfecting have some semblance of protocol, the damn EMT's who picked them up did not, they were not wearing masks.
To me, the greater fear is the air circulation among the thousands of windowless cabins.
the only description you had of the person was that they were coughing, sneezing, and blowing their nose. From that you extrapolated not only that they were overweight, but so much so you disparage them as a hippo.
so much for my 7-day vacation on a 747 in June
Plot twist: I have to take a couple of planes to get to and from the ship.
I think actually the cabin filters now use pretty high quality HEPA and some bring in outside air and often times have UV lamps.
Didn't say air travel wasn't "safe". Saying it's more disgusting than cruise ships.
it's interesting though- right or wrong via the media, my and others here perception of it puts cruises as more likely to spread these than airplanes. they have many of the same of issues- proximity to lots of people in confined spaces... but cruises last longer, so at least at an intuitive guess seem like the proximity and chance for exposure becomes greater- along with virus having the time to progress through various phases. but it also may be that cruise ships are easier to localize and identify for the media and authorities in terms of spread vs airtravel that happens quicker and has passengers immediately moving on and away from any easy way to identify whether they've become ill or not.
That's nonsense. I don't even know why they say that in the WSJ article. I have some reusable N95 masks. I wore one when we had really bad wildfires here because we were inhaling ash. They're just a mask with a filter and because they need to fit tight to work you need to adjust the straps. Not exactly difficult.
I read it elsewhere. and that it was thicker and more difficult to properly fit to your face and less comfortable to wear for long periods (harder to breath comfortably) relative to the paper versions.
They are thicker but I am a big guy that was doing physical labor so I was sweaty and occasionally breathing hard. I had zero issues breathing in an N95 even when they were partially clogged with drywall dust.
Yeah, I think the government is trying to prevent a run on masks (too late). The ones I have are actually designed to be used for running and other outdoor activities. They are not difficult to put on or uncomfortable to wear.
One area of concern on a cruise ship rather than a plane would be if you go to the buffet. They're self-serve, so you have literally hundreds of people using the same tongs and serving utensils in quick succession. When a ship ends up with norovirus, one of the precautions they take is to have the staff serve at the buffets instead. I wonder if they might proactively start doing that now due to corona.
not to mention the people using the pools, saunas, etc., which i'm quite sure are not available on planes as of this post.
Maybe not on peasants’ planes. But I would imagine most FBGers have pools, even if it’s only a small Olympic size one.
Disney cruises require every person to wipe down with a Lysol wipe or wash their hands when they come in the buffet hall. They have people at each entrance and they’ll stop you if you try to sneak by. Probably not foolproof but it seems to do pretty well. My wife researched some info on all the cruise lines and found they have way less reported incidents.
The newest Celebrity ships have the hand-washing stations at the buffets, too. And all their ships have the people squirting you with sanitizer when you come in.
