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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (29 Viewers)

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If people are going to carry on like normal (for whatever reason - possibly the ever-shrinking death rate) it's gloves and masks time. Let's shift the focus to opening everything back up but make gloves and masks mandatory.
We don't have enough masks for healthcare workers - let alone the public.
That's just a temporary supply issue, though. Once masks are readily available, they'll become a common clothing accessory for the foreseeable future.

 
That is consistent with the model I've been  using (they actually have 100MM cases by mid April). 

As you said, hopefully measures are working. 
There are other models that more fully take into account social distancing and lockdown measures. The outcomes are far lower.

None of us really know, there are so many variables and we’re just learning as go & sharing what we think we know.

 
If we ever get at home testing to scale in the next month or so is it conceivable that people could take a test, and have some sort of ID given to them if it comes back negative and we could actually know that if a person is healthy they are allowed in certain businesses or certain areas? I feel like at some point either everybody’s going to become infected and most will recover but that will take months and months or we need to re-open certain segments of our economy hopefully with the knowledge that people who are shopping or healthy but I just don’t know how we do that.
It's a perfectly valid and logical question, and likely to happen in some form I think.

But damn, it evokes thoughts of some scary allegories.

 
That is consistent with the model I've been  using (they actually have 100MM cases by mid April). 

As you said, hopefully measures are working. 
There are other models that more fully take into account social distancing and lockdown measures. The outcomes are far lower.

None of us really know, there are so many variables and we’re just learning as go & sharing what we think we know.
Indeed and not least 50 different implementations of suppression/mitigation strategies

 
That's just a temporary supply issue, though. Once masks are readily available, they'll become a common clothing accessory for the foreseeable future.
Yeah it seems like an absolute inevitability. Put people back to work, avoid the mortality rate of catastrophic unemployment, and lessen a spread that is going to happen anyway.

 
Publix gave many if not all of their management teams which is anything from a Grocery Team Leader and up what amounts to a 20% RAISE. They are making entry level teacher's pay now. 

-Wal-Mart is giving $300-$500 sign on bonuses and I can name a half dozen other big retailers and grocery stores that are about to go on a mass hiring phase. If you know anyone that was working their tails off waiting tables or standing on their feet all day I would highly recommend they check into their local grocery store, they might be hired on the spot. 

-They need bodies in these stores working ATC to get them functioning. They need an entire overnight to re-stock, there aren't enough hours to do it the way they are presently staffed. 

-Publix as an example is setting records every day right now. They are averaging over $150,000 in sales per store per day and that's on a slow day. When they can actually get product on the shelves that is high demand it's upwards of $250k and they have Publix stacked on top of each other everywhere down here in South Florida.

-Earth Fare picked the wrong month to go out of business, they would have made a fortune at least emptying their inventory. 
Ex Publix guy here. I was told by some of my friends still employed there that the raises were across the board and they were giving associates $100 gift cards too.  Its always been a pretty good company to work for. I used to feel a little guilty for what I made as a Produce Manager when I thought about what stating pay was for cops and teachers.

All my buddies told me if folks would just go back to there normal shopping habits the supply chain could catch back up in a matter of days. I remember what it was like when ever there was a hurricane lurking. This is like that but people are buying everything and its like the hurricane never leaves. I bought the team at my Publix 20 pizzas and had them delivered from the Dominos next door to show my appreciation. Lot of folks don't realize how hard retail grocery is especially in times like these.

 
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For anyone needing sports... NBC airing a “wired” series with Penguins/Flyers outdoor game. It’s pretty awesome seeing and hearing the player commentary. 

 
Here I bet we have two weeks until the country is in total lockdown, just because we’re stubborn and reality still hasn’t set in yet. When numbers keep ramping up, we will finally do what’s necessary. Another two weeks after that until we hit the peak. My guess is we peak around the end of April, beginning of May. 

 
Today’s numbers in Italy are down.

5,560 new cases and 651 new deaths.


That's great news.  Maybe we're closer to the end of the worst part than it seems.
Wondering if it will take good news coming from Italy for the US to adopt the measures Italy finally adopted. They locked down the entire country on March 9th. That’s 13 days ago. If people still don’t understand we need to do this now, they aren’t paying attention and as a result we need a federal, universal response to this.

 
That's just a temporary supply issue, though. Once masks are readily available, they'll become a common clothing accessory for the foreseeable future.
Yeah it seems like an absolute inevitability. Put people back to work, avoid the mortality rate of catastrophic unemployment, and lessen a spread that is going to happen anyway.
I would be concerned about creating a false sense of security, though. We still need to be vigilant with hand washing and social distancing. If the unofficial motto is "Business As Usual - Just Wear A Mask!"......then we're all going to die.

 
Wondering if it will take good news coming from Italy for the US to adopt the measures Italy finally adopted. They locked down the entire country on March 9th. That’s 13 days ago. If people still don’t understand we need to do this now, they aren’t paying attention and as a result we need a federal, universal response to this.
We are not Italy fo a variety of reasons

 
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Here I bet we have two weeks until the country is in total lockdown, just because we’re stubborn and reality still hasn’t set in yet. When numbers keep ramping up, we will finally do what’s necessary. Another two weeks after that until we hit the peak. My guess is we peak around the end of April, beginning of May. 
Yes. We need to skip the step where we’re stubborn. 

 
Today’s numbers in Italy are down.

5,560 new cases and 651 new deaths.
Good news...the issue is that in NY alone has a rate of infection that far surpasses Italy.  On Wednesday, it was reported NY had 1871 cases.  Italy reported a similar caseload (1697) on March 1.  On March 13, 12 days later...they surpassed 17k.  NY did that today...4 days later.  If NY’s rate of infection levels stay consistent like they have for the past 4 days, possibility exists that NY could be at the 1M number this time next week...

 
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Ex Publix guy here. I was told by some of some of my friends still employed there that the raises were across the board and they were giving associates $100 gift cards too.  Its always been a pretty good company to work for. I used to feel a little guilty for what I made as a Produce Manager when I thought about what stating pay was for cops and teachers.

All my buddies told me if folks would just go back to there normal shopping habits the supply chain could catch back up in a matter of days. I remember what it was like when ever there was a hurricane lurking. This is like that but people are buying everything and its like the hurricane never leaves. I bought the team at my Publix 20 pizzas and had them delivered from the Dominos next door to show my appreciation. Lot of folks don't realize how hard retail grocery is especially in times like these.
I know for us it would be tough to go back to our normal shopping habits. We are all home all the time now and previously went out to eat a lot. We also have more of us in the house with kids not going back to school. So I would guess our weekly food consumption tripled. 

 
I just got a text from the dispensary.   Apparently weed is essential here.   They’re making special times for seniors.   

Yeah this lockdown is totally gonna work. 

 
Good news...the issue is that in NY alone has a rate of infection that far surpasses Italy.  On Wednesday, it was reported NY had 1871 cases.  Italy reported a similar caseload (1697) on March 1.  On March 13, 12 days later...they surpassed 17k.  NY did that today...4 days later.  If NY’s rate of infection levels stay consistent like they have for the past 4 days, possibility exists that NY could be at the 1M number this time next week...
Don’t think we can look at it that way.  New York didn’t suddenly explode with infections, they just got testing online very late and so they exploded with reported cases.

 
I just got a text from the dispensary.   Apparently weed is essential here.   They’re making special times for seniors.   

Yeah this lockdown is totally gonna work. 
Oh and no worries for me... I have enough weed to make it to June or so at least.  

 
Don’t think we can look at it that way.  New York didn’t suddenly explode with infections, they just got testing online very late and so they exploded with reported cases.
Good point. We can't confuse more testing with a higher rate or more deaths.

 
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Don’t think we can look at it that way.  New York didn’t suddenly explode with infections, they just got testing online very late and so they exploded with reported cases.
Possibly...given the fact that we haven’t even administered 1M tests nationwide.  At the same time, 10x in 4 days in the most dense part of the country when Cuomo said he didn’t see people social distancing anywhere near where they should have is ominous.

 
Good news...the issue is that in NY alone has a rate of infection that far surpasses Italy.  On Wednesday, it was reported NY had 1871 cases.  Italy reported a similar caseload (1697) on March 1.  On March 13, 12 days later...they surpassed 17k.  NY did that today...4 days later.  If NY’s rate of infection levels stay consistent like they have for the past 4 days, possibility exists that NY could be at the 1M number this time next week...
NY also ramped up their testing in a big way. NY has tested more people than CA and WA combined. Significantly ramped up testing is going to naturally result in the number of reported cases going up.

Hospitalizations and fatalities are probably more effective metrics to track.

NY has also implemented social distancing, albeit a sort of half measure of what’s really needed to flatten the curve of transmission.

 
According to worldometers, more than 12000 new cases in the US today.
One full third of all positives, from today.
I sincerely hope this is because of massively ramped up testing

 
So, I just found this and this could potentially become useful in trying to identify those with this.  Along those lines, I think there's a very high likelihood I had it as a carrier because I had this exact same experience about a week and a half ago.

Sudden loss of taste and smell reported in up to 30% of people with coronavirus

Another article

A couple times in my life I've had mild loss of taste and smell with a bad cold (lots of congestion, runny nose, etc.).  Nothing out of the ordinary.  But, a week and a half ago I felt as if I was coming down with something (right around the time things started to escalate).  I never had a fever but just overall didn't feel well, mild achiness.  However, the strange thing was that I had a sudden and COMPLETE loss of smell and almost all of my taste without any congestion or runny nose.  To the point where I couldn't smell anything even in the bathroom and tested out some strong and/or noxious smells (vinegar, laundry detergent) and couldn't smell it at all.  I had no taste of salt.  This lasted a few days.  Along with that, I almost had this feeling that I could breathe easier, which was also strange.  It still isn't fully back to normal but it's improving for sure.

Reading that article, I'm convinced that there's a very good chance that's exactly what I had.  I traveled to Atlanta at the very end of February/first of March for a weekend when there were a lot of people around.  These symptoms came about ~10 days afterward.

Anyway, just a PSA in case you have or had any of the above to just be aware.

 
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The Italy numbers are GREAT news....for Italy.

But it gives us something to shoot for and get optimistic about.  
 

The exponential growth can be stopped. 

 
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Good news...the issue is that in NY alone has a rate of infection that far surpasses Italy.  On Wednesday, it was reported NY had 1871 cases.  Italy reported a similar caseload (1697) on March 1.  On March 13, 12 days later...they surpassed 17k.  NY did that today...4 days later.  If NY’s rate of infection levels stay consistent like they have for the past 4 days, possibility exists that NY could be at the 1M number this time next week...
Testing is also up like 800% so the rate is not accurate

 
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ETA2 Ro can also be used to calculate the proportion of the population needed to be immunized to achieve herd immunity: 1 - 1/Ro
I assume this is both vaccinated (if such exists) + people who've recently had the illness?

So we won't see (short-term?) herd immunity unless/until something like 80-90% of us have been infected?

 
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