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Damn, that is right in my backyard. And I'm an ICU RN, so there's a chance I've already been exposed, or probably will be really soon. This flu season is already taxing our local resources: the number of available beds and vents hasn't been enough to keep up with the critically ill we have, just from flu.
"I got mine -- too bad for you!"
His take on masks made sense to me if you listen to the podcast. It is most helpful to stop the spread to others but not really helpful to protect yourself. I also think the panic shopping thing made sense as well (sort of like you are at the store then buy a couple of extra things).
That's been one benefit to Mardi Gras -- no one locally has focused on this. Stores and all still seem to have inventory as normal. I hadn't checked masks, probably won't get any ... but I am curious about using local mask availability as a proxy for "community preparedness".I went to Whole Foods last night; I had to make two trips for all the water, then loaded up on canned goods. People were looking at me like I was insane
Place was nice and empty, got prepared, now I'm done.
Again with the ####ting on the fan thing, wth is the fascination with ####ting on fans?!?!?
From the podcast, severe cases are 3+ weeks on ventilators for a good portion of the time. That is going to be a huge issue if this takes off. Not enough beds, not enough ventilators, cost prohibitive for most folks with subpar or no insurance. China's authoritarian regime has the ability to focus the economy on building hospitals & ventilators. I don't think the US will be doing that.
With the flu, you'd have to be infected by a different strain as the first strain you got would provide immunity from getting that same strain again.
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I got what my family needed. I never cleared shelves.
So ... that's the city's current official recommendations to the public. 90+% of locals will take that as "no action needed".
Generally true, but not 100% for all people. So far as I can tell, all viral infections are that way -- 99+% have lifetime immunity after recovery (or nearly so), while the rest can be reinfected.
I believe from a few rabbit hole trips on youtube that SHTF is the prepper's way of saying something like "Zombie Apocalypse"
Seems harsh / extremeI got what my family needed. I never cleared shelves.
Guaranteed that moron is planning on selling them for a profit. Those people are ########s. His attitude is the icing on the cake. I hope someone shot him in the parking lot and took his precious handwipes
The guy in that pod just tweeted a pretty good update on the situation:
I don’t trust China, I don’t care about their numbers, I don’t know that their numbers have any relevance and we are getting to the point where it almost doesn’t matter anymore.
Why would that cause panic, it means that we've been exposed to it already and the death rate out in the open is more like the flu.
We know the death rate isn’t like the flu. But if it turns out there are 200 people instead of 20, that could cause panic among some.
The panic will start when peoples' movement gets restricted, schools and offices get closed, etc. And I think that is coming sooner teacher than later. Within 2 weeks some schools will get closed here in the US.
I travel for work. I attend religious services. I’m headed to a soccer game Saturday night. I wonder how many of those will be happening in two months. In China none of them. In the US, will quarantine efforts be heeded?
If that many get it simultaneously, yes.
There is a kicked-around-the-Internet theory that while (a) the U.S. does have a significant number of infected COVID folks right now (as many as low five-figures), that (b) they're being folded into the general flu/bronchitis/pneumonia set of patients and nothing untoward is being observed. No extra deaths, no upticks in patients requiring ventilators, etc.
Okay then you should be aware that they can't handle the load they currently have. Now imagine 33 million (10% of US population) people heading to the hospital/emergency care etc for care.
There's no evidence that even in Hubei/Wuhan 10% of the population wound up in hospitals. Even if you think they euthanized people it was far from 10%.
Do we? I mean, really know it? The reporting of cases, the changes in testing criteria and methodology, and some government reluctance to hinder tourism and cause panic (China and Iran, specifically) make it unlikely we have an actual hardset, data-backed mortality rate, I think.
Cruise ship is a pretty solid indicator. Already (we are early) 4 deaths from 703 cases. That’s 5 times as deadly as flu and that number should rise.
Why would they all need to go in for emergency care? Why would even half of them require emergency room treatment?
81% of people that get it have mild cases.
