*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (15 Viewers)

[KarmaPolice]

Not sure what makes people think this isn’t the case. 

Different areas and experiences.  Little hyperbole on his part, but I dont think 1/2 the people i know are talking it too seriously, and definitely not taking as many precautions.  

 

[RnR]

Just look at the pictures of people on the beaches. Go online to Facebook, Nextdoor, and other social media. Tons of people downplaying it still as just the flu.

I'd like to think we're being overexposed to the people who are exhibiting poor behavior. Let's face it, the 90+ percent of people who are mostly doing things correctly aren't headliners and engagement grabbers. It's easy to let that ~5-10% of morons warp our sense of what's going on when they're plastered on news, social media, etc. pretty much around the clock.

Even the things like the Disney World ordeal are still a pinprick of a 330 million population.

 

[skol asylum]

Otis lives in NYC iirc.

I check the Times Square webcams and Central Park webcams from time to time. I think it’s safe to say that the majority of people in NYC are taking this very seriously.  But that certainly doesn’t apply to the entire country.

Makes sense. In places like Arizona it's not real to alot of people.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Agree that NYers very much seem to be taking it seriously. And wishing more people would, and spending less time demonizing them. That probably happens when thousands of people start dying around you at once. 

 

[shader]

Yup too many still not cooperating and there are pockets where the density of idiots is high but I think overall we’re well over 90% compliance in most areas.

I seriously doubt that we are 90% in most areas, but then again, how would I know 

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Here's an idea for a drinking game.

Every time you hear "uncertain times", take a swig.

 

[gianmarco]

Not part of the 90%

All of these people should be fined heavily. Every. Last. One.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Makes sense. In places like Arizona it's not real to alot of people.

This is the dynamic that’s played out from country-to-country down to a county-by-county.

For whatever reason, people simply are thinking it’s going to happen somewhere else until it doesn’t.

 

[Flying Elvis]

From what I read, your immunity to a flu strain lasts for about a year after you recover, but you aren’t necessarily immune to other strains. I saw an interview with Dr. Fauci where he said he expects the same from this virus. So you can get reinfected, but not so soon after recovering.

I think the bigger part of it is that your body knows how to handle it better on that second go 'round, no? Once it is no longer truly novel, the immune system makes short work of it.

Here's an idea for a drinking game.

Every time you hear "uncertain times", take a swig.

or "uncharted territory" ... I'll have two swigs now, one for each.

 

[The Big Donkey]

Not part of the 90%

All of these people should be fined heavily. Every. Last. One.

@Capella   In Tampa,  great.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Not part of the 90%

All of these people should be fined heavily. Every. Last. One.

Are those New Yorkers in that FL church? The people on the FL beaches too, all New Yorkers right? But close the I95 because that’s the problem.

“Its a China problem, it’s an Italy problem, it’s a NY problem”. When will people accept personal responsibility and stay at home themselves? Do what they are supposed to do? It’s disgusting.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'd like to think we're being overexposed to the people who are exhibiting poor behavior. Let's face it, the 90+ percent of people who are mostly doing things correctly aren't headliners and engagement grabbers. It's easy to let that ~5-10% of morons warp our sense of what's going on when they're plastered on news, social media, etc. pretty much around the clock.

Even the things like the Disney World ordeal are still a pinprick of a 330 million population.

Of course, but let's not pretend that the idiots at Disney are just going to stay together and give it to themselves.  Those people and the spring breakers dispersed and spread out all over the country.  Probably not the people who are taking many precautions at work or at stores either.  That is a huge problem.  This is not something that we will be fine if we have 90% participation.  

Just think of all the restaurants, rest stops, airports, gas stations, etc.  Those 1000s of people were at while they were heading home.  

 

[[icon]]

Not part of the 90%

All of these people should be fined heavily. Every. Last. One.

ugh. Tampa. 
 

I swear, the world would be so much better if it wasn't for organized religion. 

 

[Capella]

@Capella   In Tampa,  great.

 Always Tampa 

 

[Flying Elvis]

This is the dynamic that’s played out from country-to-country down to a county-by-county.

For whatever reason, people simply are thinking it’s going to happen somewhere else until it doesn’t.

Exactly. To steal one of JB's favorite NFL Camp phrases, there has been a consistent "drumbeat" in various medical articles/tweets/etc. from Italy,  then Seattle/SF, in this post by Harris when discussing Paris, France, and now in discussion of NYC about responses being two weeks behind. 

 

[JetMaxx]

ugh. Tampa. 
 

I swear, the world would be so much better if it wasn't for organized religion. 

You will soon be right.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Agree that NYers very much seem to be taking it seriously. And wishing more people would, and spending less time demonizing them.

I think I just pulled a muscle tapping the elevator  button with my big toe. My floor is around shoulder height.



(ASIDE - Hand sanitizer on every floor by the elevator bank, my hands were busy - I usually do it with my elbow.)

Surgical gloves & an N95 every time I leave the apartment.

 

[CurlyNight]

Low flying helicopter. Normally I wouldn't wonder why.

 

[facook]

Here's an idea for a drinking game.

Every time you hear "uncertain times", take a swig.

Add in "tough" "troubling" or "trying" times and you'll die of alcohol poisoning.

 

[facook]

ugh. Tampa. 
 

I swear, the world would be so much better if it wasn't for organized religion. 

You will soon be right.

Here we go.  Kinda shocked it took 517 pages.  Probably didn't, but I've skipped most of the last 120.  Gonna need an FFA sub-forum for church bashing I think.

The people still gathering in churches are dumb to do so.  Not all people who participate in "organized religion" are the same.

 

[Possum]

Let me know how it turns out, stuff coming in next week for me.

wasn't too hard - I made two of them and then got bored with it  

my first attempt actually worked out good, though not as nice as the one he makes in the video, but then I felt like the second one nailed the design. I figured out that you get better results if you make thinner folds when doing the accordion.

biggest PITA was trying to make those first three little tight rolls over the paperclip nose piece, the shop towel wouldn't stay folded for me there so I had to eventually just stick it down on both sides with little pieces of tape. After that it was cake, though - finished product definitely looks DIY, but it fits nice and seems like it'd give decent protection at least.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I just saw that Joe Diffie died from COVID.  He was a pretty big country music star in the 90s.  One of my favorites when I was into the Garth Brooks/Alan Jackson/Brooks & Dunn-led boom of the time.  

I'm sure it's not a big deal to most, but it was a time when I was in my teens and connecting with your parents isn't easy.  But my Mom and I connected through country music.

One of Joe Diffie's biggest hits was Prop Me Up Besides the Jukebox When I Die.  Yeah, I know it's hoakie, but I hope someone propped him up.

I am not even remotely a country music fan, but I know John Deere Green.  This is very sad because that song was part of my college years.  

 

[adonis]

I am not even remotely a country music fan, but I know John Deere Green.  This is very sad because that song was part of my college years.  

ON a hot summer night....

High school for me. Damn you're old.

 

[comfortably numb]

Sucks

Back and forth emails all weekend

I'm moving my manpower resources to help our refrigeration container division keep up with demand for refrigerated shipping containers to be used as morgues heading to NYC. 

 

[bentley]

This may be a stupid question, but is the 90% counted in terms of trips or total exposure to people? Like if I was supposed to be at a luncheon for 500 (which was cancelled) but instead ordered curbside and interacted with one person, was is that a 99+% reduction?

 

[BassNBrew]

Low flying helicopter. Normally I wouldn't wonder why.

Saw three fighter jets about 100 yards over the Blue Ridge Parkways doing rolls as they weaved in and out of the mountain ridges.

 

[adonis]

And to top it all off...our company considers itself "essential" which is arguable, but we're planning to ramp up operations in a little over a week.  We've been working remotely, social distancing, keeping small crews at work.

But work calls.  Paychecks require revenue.

I'm on the leadership team.  The messaging continues to reflect CDC and federal guidance, the business is doing all it can to protect workers, but business will go on.

This will be more and more common.

 

[adonis]

This may be a stupid question, but is the 90% counted in terms of trips or total exposure to people? Like if I was supposed to be at a luncheon for 500 (which was cancelled) but instead ordered curbside and interacted with one person, was is that a 99+% reduction?

Serious answer: https://youtu.be/gxAaO2rsdIs

Check that out for some variations among social distancing and other variables with the disease.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Not part of the 90%

All of these people should be fined heavily. Every. Last. One.

Just lock em in.

 

[KarmaPolice]

This may be a stupid question, but is the 90% counted in terms of trips or total exposure to people? Like if I was supposed to be at a luncheon for 500 (which was cancelled) but instead ordered curbside and interacted with one person, was is that a 99+% reduction?

I think people are talking in terms of % of participation of of the population.  

Not that the 500 people trimmed their contacts by 90%, but that 450 did the protocols, but the other 50 are having a block party, going to church, going out too much, etc.. 

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

John Prine has it. Is intubated and in critical condition 

 

[Possum]

John Prine has it. Is intubated and in critical condition 

 

[KarmaPolice]

I believe it's @shader that has done a good job with the updated numbers.   Is there a similar site that shows the cases each day by state or even by county?   Seems like when I search I just get generic local news with numbers, but I was talking to a couple co-workers about the potential exponential growth and the R0, but didn't know what WI or other individual states looked like.  

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

So this chart is pretty wild in light of everything that’s happened this month.  

I think I’ve heard of this tweeter before...

https://twitter.com/fbg_dodds/status/1244434906618318848?s=21

 

[Man In The Box]

https://www.froggysfog.com/additional-products/chemicals/froggy-s-simply-sanitizer-hand-rub-formulation.html

1 GALLON 80% sanitizer $35.99 after 10% off code WEBSP (free shipping too) 

Thanks for posting. Our office has basically nothing. Hand soap and some days we have latex gloves (I bought my own) and that’s it. Haven’t seen hand sanitizer in my office in about a month. 

Had a co-worker forward this to our postmaster, and she got the district managers on board to chip in, and they ordered the 250 gallon drum. This is going to be a huge help to all offices in our district. Great find

 

[BassNBrew]

So this chart is pretty wild in light of everything that’s happened this month.  

I think I’ve heard of this tweeter before...

https://twitter.com/fbg_dodds/status/1244434906618318848?s=21

That's pretty amazing.

 

[Slapdash]

I believe it's @shader that has done a good job with the updated numbers.   Is there a similar site that shows the cases each day by state or even by county?   Seems like when I search I just get generic local news with numbers, but I was talking to a couple co-workers about the potential exponential growth and the R0, but didn't know what WI or other individual states looked like.  

Best bet is usually to find whomever is active on Twitter from your local news.  That is what I do.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Best bet is usually to find whomever is active on Twitter from your local news.  That is what I do.

Never been on the Twitter.  

ldguyalert:

 

[Redwes25]

I believe it's @shader that has done a good job with the updated numbers.   Is there a similar site that shows the cases each day by state or even by county?   Seems like when I search I just get generic local news with numbers, but I was talking to a couple co-workers about the potential exponential growth and the R0, but didn't know what WI or other individual states looked like.  

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ is the best source. If you go to the USA page it breaks it down by state. NYC publishes data for the city itself twice a day. 

 

[Flying Elvis]

This may be a stupid question, but is the 90% counted in terms of trips or total exposure to people? Like if I was supposed to be at a luncheon for 500 (which was cancelled) but instead ordered curbside and interacted with one person, was is that a 99+% reduction?

I don't think there's any actual count. I assume the "90%" is kind of a Steven Wright statistic. The reality is you should reduce your trips to supply runs that limit the number of stores you go to and the number of interactions you have to a minimum. 

Pretend you have the virus and you don't want to infect those in your community. Less contact means slower spread which helps slow the demand for hospitalization and critical care so your local healthcare system doesn't get overwhelmed. We are simply buying time for our neighborhood hospitals to prepare for a surge and see COVID-19 patients at a more manageable rate.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Makes sense. In places like Arizona it's not real to alot of people.

 Complete garbage. Please stop shlt posts like this. Accomplishes nothing

TIA

 

[Snorkelson]

Cv info

@KarmaPolice here’s another link that shows state by state testing and some other info. 

 

[BobbyLayne]

doctor suiting up

 

[SoBeDad]

Not part of the 90%

All of these people should be fined heavily. Every. Last. One.

Only in America? In Spain and Peru, I know that people are being arrested and fined for curfew violations. It's probably happening in many other countries, on a national level. And I've seen video of people in Peru, from their balconies and windows, cheering on police who arrested a guy who was walking his dog after the 8pm curfew. People in other countries are taking it more seriously than we are. The national 8pm curfew in Peru was just extended until April 15. 

 

[shader]

I believe it's @shader that has done a good job with the updated numbers.   Is there a similar site that shows the cases each day by state or even by county?   Seems like when I search I just get generic local news with numbers, but I was talking to a couple co-workers about the potential exponential growth and the R0, but didn't know what WI or other individual states looked like.  

You gotta go local if you want historicals.  Worldometers has some great charts but doesn’t break it down by state historically. 
 

I’m  sure someone in your area is charting it.  I have a friend who has a great excel spreadsheet for TN. 

 

[joffer]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ is the best source. If you go to the USA page it breaks it down by state. NYC publishes data for the city itself twice a day. 

Has NY reported their evening numbers yet?  If they have their daily #s are down! :hopeful:

 

[skol asylum]

 Complete garbage. Please stop shlt posts like this. Accomplishes nothing

TIA

Huh? All i said was in places like Arizona where it's not as widespread yet you hear people aren't taking it as serious as they should be.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Cv info

@KarmaPolice here’s another link that shows state by state testing and some other info. 

That date slider is amazing 

 

[Galileo]

Not part of the 90%

All of these people should be fined heavily. Every. Last. One.

Barricade the doors and leave them all in there for 14 days.   

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Some detailed thoughts on the model the WH is promoting.

These assumptions in particular seem overly sunny:

10. One of my biggest concerns about the paper is that if I understand it correctly, it assumes that once a state implements least 3 of {school closures, non-essential business closures, stay-home orders, travel restrictions}, transmission declines as it did in Wuhan.

11. The model also assumes that states that have not yet implemented 3 of the 4 above will do so within a week.

So the model the WH is using assumes that the entire US will be using the equivalent of Wuhan-level countermeasures  by next weekend.