Ilov80s
Footballguy
That's good. Swimming makes perfect sense to continue with. Hopefully the weather is good for the whole season to be held outside. I thought Whitmer's suggestion made a lot of sense.
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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (14 Viewers)
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Well the issue is most schools do not have access to outdoor pools. I'm fortunate where I live to have many. But indoor pools, as of now, are closed. So even though the risk from swimming has been deemed "low", the season may not happen.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah, I would assume schools would have to use pools at public parks but are those functional? Will cities allow them?
culdeus
Footballguy
I know that back when the "Wait two weeks" crowd was stronger there was at least some causal relationships between cases and deaths that seemed to be breaking down.
While not definitive there seems to be some hope in the fact that ICU mortality rate is/was dropping over time. Up to the point where it hit NYC nearly 2/3 of the cases that hit the ICU were fatal. That is pretty staggering.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/anae.15230
While not definitive there seems to be some hope in the fact that ICU mortality rate is/was dropping over time. Up to the point where it hit NYC nearly 2/3 of the cases that hit the ICU were fatal. That is pretty staggering.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/anae.15230
matuski
Footballguy
JaxBill
Footballguy
Deaths aren't necessarily in last 24 hours. They're when the county coroner reports them to state. Coming off the weekend, they could have been for last few days. e.g. St. Lucie County reported 96 new cases but 14 deaths...and that brought their total to 180. Marion county almost identical numbers. Neither county reported any deaths yesterday. That's why the 7 day averages are helpful. Those appear to have topped out.
belljr
Footballguy
Just for an update
"made out of a polyester spandex material"
Was what was tested
All metrics were trending favorably, including deaths. Until today's death total of 276. There was also a slight increase on positivity to 10.3% today. The deaths were spread around the state. I haven't heard an explanation for today's increase in deaths.
Marc Bevand, looking at date of death, projected that daily deaths peaked a few days ago around 185. This could change his projections.
https://mobile.twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1292307991023071233
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/08/10/coronavirus-florida-latest-numbers-covid-19-cases-deaths-data/
A deeper dive into Marc Bevand's modeling, which is open source:
>> Notice how has an extremely wide confidence interval (dotted pink lines): by August 12 it estimates between 70 and 250 deaths/day. Whereas my best guess interval is 150-200. So how does the best guess estimate work? <<
https://mobile.twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1287650012340473858
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parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Not sure why this distinction matters since that is what most neck gaiters are made of.
Any stretchy material isn't good and if it isn't stretchy, then it really wouldn't work as a neck gaiter.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Yes. Really. The as of yet non existent free vaccine might require gas money.
It is very important to discuss and matters somehow.
https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1293270181754544128 (Marc Bevand, completely open source code and data).
>>Today Florida reported 276 new covid deaths, a new record. The dates of death of these fatalities were mostly in the last week, but some were older (notice 2 deaths added that occurred on 7/4)<<
A nice graphic from Marc Bevand of deaths by date of death, and yes, they appear to have topped out 1-2 weeks ago close to 160 for a 7-day moving average. Today's large total will balanced against low totals from the last couple of day.
belljr
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
So a stretchy bandanna.belljr said:Mine are 95% cotton
matuski
Footballguy
You mean all masks aren't equal, and people might not be doing it right? I swear there was a poster run out of this thread (or whatever covid thread) over this obvious claim a couple/few times.
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The noD
Footballguy
lol at claiming vindication over this as if you were crusading against neck gaiters. that's awesome.You mean all masks aren't equal, and people might not be doing it right? I swear there was a poster run out of this thread (or whatever covid thread) over this obvious claim a couple/few times.
No matter which side of the "argument" you are on you have to acknowledge that we are basically at a point where we have accepted 1k deaths a day. There's little to no outrage any more, little to no celebrating. Nothing in the numbers show that we should be slowing down too terribly much for a while still. And if more schools follow Georgia's lead then it won't slow down at all.belljr said:
Just found out my uncle is in the ICU with COVID. Breathing on his own but on oxygen. Based on his age and health history, there’s a decent chance that he won’t make it. We’ve never been close but still depressing to have it hit close to home.
Then one of the first things I see after hearing the news is a close friend from pharmacy school reposting someone’s post complete with anti-vaccine, claims of thousands of positives without being tested, anti-mask, etc. She works as a pharmacist at the same hospital my uncle is at. So frustrating.
Then one of the first things I see after hearing the news is a close friend from pharmacy school reposting someone’s post complete with anti-vaccine, claims of thousands of positives without being tested, anti-mask, etc. She works as a pharmacist at the same hospital my uncle is at. So frustrating.
culdeus
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
Vindicated of being right? I mean it was never in doubt was it?lol at claiming vindication over this as if you were crusading against neck gaiters. that's awesome.
matuski
Footballguy
You got one part right, can you finish the thought on why any mask isn't the answer for the masses? And/or what I argued for?
Just making sure you understand what you are arguing against.
But thank you for confirming part of it.
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matuski
Footballguy
Do you, because the prior dogpiling I received over the claim certainly didn't fill me with confidence.
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matuski
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Should people go door to door across the entire country to give everyone the vaccine?
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Yeah, that guy was a real &%$#You mean all masks aren't equal, and people might not be doing it right? I swear there was a poster run out of this thread (or whatever covid thread) over this obvious claim a couple/few times.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I honestly can't imagine reading a study that shows
even a VALVED N95 mask stops over 80% of droplets and that a surgical mask stopped 99% and a mask made by Grandma stops over 90%
and then thinking that I would go dunk on people about fit testing.
WDIK2
Footballguy
Omaha city council voted unanimously in favor of a mask mandate today.99 of the 100 largest cities in the US have mask mandates. The one holdout? #40 Omaha, NE.
Effective immediately. Will see what happens.
mr roboto
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
That people take this stuff personally, and get personal over it. Over the fact someone disagrees with mask dogma, or this, or that. On a fantasy football forum.
I don't ever stop being surprised. I guess everyone has their triggers, just amazed that this is one of them.
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Penguin
Footballguy
C'Mon, like Jessie Pinkman always said, "Science B!tch!"That people take this stuff personally, and get personal over it. Over the fact someone disagrees with mask dogma, or this, or that. On a fantasy football forum.
I don't ever stop being surprised. I guess everyone has their triggers, just amazed that this is one of them.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I mean, the guy spent an inordinate amount of bandwidth saying, basically, "mask mandates are pointless if people aren't wearing fitted masks," and now along comes Grandma to pwn him with her homemade masks, and he still thinks he deserves a victory lap.
JaxBill
Footballguy
@AP: Unlike every other state with major nursing home outbreaks, New York only counts resident deaths that occur in the home, not in hospitals. That could make New York's official toll, already among the nation's highest, a significant undercount. http://apne.ws/xCLrxDl
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beer 30
Footballguy
File it in the "water is wet" folder
But yea this too. Some people need to see the proof, here you go.
The Commish
Footballguy
It was our highest total yet, but it should be coming down now. Looks like casese aren't getting over 10K a day anymore.belljr said:
The Commish
Footballguy
Kinda stops the "social distancing is enough" shtick at least, right?File it in the "water is wet" folder
But yea this too. Some people need to see the proof, here you go.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Unfortunately no. Already seeing pushback from doctors that this doesnt mean anything because we dont know infectious dose.
And these arent no name people. If you google Angela Rasmussen you can see she is quoted all over the place.
belljr
Footballguy
So now there is an update to that study yesterday about masks and what was really tested.
What a cluster
Doug B
Footballguy
That Duke study, IMHO, was way far from a conclusion-setting experiment. I think many people knew that a sun gaiter through which you can blow out a candle would not confer much protection. Sure, some people didn't know better, used such gaiters, and thus got away with "half-arsing" their compliance with local mask mandates. From a top-of-the-mountain view -- so what? Even the Duke study never concluded "Fit-tested N95 or nothing!".
Can't speak for everywhere, but around here -- which is a huge hunting/fishing area where gaiters are popular -- very few people are relying on stretchy sun gaiters as their COVID-19 protection. So few that they are not, in aggregate, a transmission threat to the public (given otherwise responsible behavior).
Doug B
Footballguy
Update to the Duke mask study? Would you mind posting a link? I went looking for the update on Google News, but I'm only turning up references to the initial study.
The Commish
Footballguy
What percentage of virus expelled was collected by any of the masks? Isn't that the actually question?You mean all masks aren't equal, and people might not be doing it right? I swear there was a poster run out of this thread (or whatever covid thread) over this obvious claim a couple/few times.
Doug B
Footballguy
People just need to use a little sense (I know, I know):
Step 1 - Light a candle (birthday, aromatherapy, Roman ... it doesn't matter)
Step 2 - Don your favorite gaiter in such a way that you can abide by your local mask mandate
Step 3 - Lean down and attempt to blow out the candle. Really try ... don't softly whistle. Apply some lung power.
If candle goes out: Use something else for COVID-19 source control in public
If candle stays lit: Eh ... at least make sure the part of the gaiter covering your face is folded over so you have two layers of fabric over your mouth and nose. Or else get a proper mask.
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