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The short answer is that everyplace will have a different plan. I am not aware of any distribution plan in NoVA that requires active military or National Guard support. It is a possibility, so I will not discount it.
Unfortunately, a person like that won't believe the facts - mainstream media and all that. I'd carry on with life and minimize contact until this cools down.
We don't know for sure, but SARS-CoV-2 doesn't seem as prone to big mutations as influenza.
My kids have no problem sorting through the distortion. They just believe anything Mr. Beast says. Ain’t YouTube wonderful?
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NJ is under a 10pm curfew for indoor dining and drinking as of last Thursday. My town is considering an 8pm curfew for both.
Sadly with friends and family in SD it’s been hard to watch for awhile. I’ve seen several people go straight from posting memes mocking COVID to posting hospital updates about family members. They are doing nothing to try and slow it with little chance of that changing. They just don’t care.
Saw the same thing on facebook after a high school classmates dad died from Covid. His daughter posted that "dad was a gambler and was going to live his life". He was only 66 and I guess he lost.
The sad reality is that these smaller (population) rural states are setup perfectly to avoid huge COVID outbreaks if they just took it seriously and that’s why many didn’t get hit hard until the third spike. But then when it gets into the small communities, it takes over because there are limited resources that everyone has to use.
Somewhat agree. I wouldn’t say there are limited resources. The smaller population lends itself to needing less resources.
You don't....you just point out that for what they are believing to be true literally thousands of people have to be in the know and keeping their mouths shut. That's about all you can do. You can also ask what their sources of belief are and ask them if it's concerning to them that virtually none of them are in the medical field. After that, you dump it and move on.beer 30 said:
Resources was probably the wrong word to use, I meant that the small community likely has one grocery store, bank, etc that everyone has to use.
I’m sure there’s curriculum on logic and reason and argumentation. I have been listening to a lot of podcasts on mindfulness they talk a lot about cognitive biases as well.
Yea I know...all of it. Was hoping there was some low hanging fruit I could point said person to that might help sway them off their stance. There isn't, i know this so guess I'm just going to ignore the nonsense and not make a big deal about it. Blissful ignorance I guess. Thanks for the responses crew
I think the first thing you do is teach them what it means when we say "three sides to every story...your side, my side and the truth"...then work from there. It's part of the upbringing. I don't know how many conversations we've had this election cycle that started with one of my kids asking if a particular ad on tv was "true" or not.
Also by "health experts" and MSM telling people that they are evil for sitting alone on sparsely-populated beaches, but attending mass protests is totally safe and a-okay.
But they were wearing masks! Well except when they pulled them down to scream or spit at police. And during mugshots.
Agreed hate the county by county stuff. We couldn't have a bar league softball/volleyball seasons in Dane County yet all the surrounding counties they were having tournaments, operating like a normal summer. And yes local teams are traveling for sports activities. I have an acquaintance in Mount Horeb who's daughter plays club volleyball...they have a tournament in the Dells this upcoming weekend. People are so dumb.
This is nonsense. CNN must have said two dozens times that what people are doing is unsafe when they all congregated around the White House when Biden was declared the winner.
I don't know if I quite agree with this. For those of whom are not aware of my stance (I've stated it here in this thread, and I've stated it in the stock/cydy thread--I like many scientists and biologists (Bret Weinstein for one) am of the belief that covid-19 was a result of some sort of lab leak from gain-of-function research gone wrong with coronaviruses and I personally believe that there is a good chance that it can mutate fairly quickly and substantially because of this.Terminalxylem said:
Follow steak-umm on Twitter. Does an excellent job of explaining how to determine if a source is credible and how to identify and not amplify propaganda.
True to an extent, but some of the misinformation is a function of learning how we deal with a novel infection. As a scientist, you surely understand the process of hypothesis generation and revision based on available evidence, but not everyone realizes the state of the science is constantly subject to change. There weren’t any covid “experts” at the beginning of the pandemic, only historical public health guidance which hadn’t been rigorously tested, and assumptions based on other infections. It’s hard to be too dogmatic given those circumstances, and easy to understand when mistakes are made.
what about the studies that were done early on (March/April) that determined it had a natural structure, which wouldn't be the case if it was lab-made? (tl;dr: If lab made, it would have had a nearly identical structure to a known coronavirus. Their findings proved it to be a new structure.)
This line is oft repeated, but I’ve not heard or seen any infectious disease clinician or public health official take this stance. Did you have any particular “health expert” in mind?
This just seems to be what I hear from anyone that spends 2-3hrs a day on facebook.
Watch this. It’s worth the 20 minutes- I promise you. The scientific community at large is incentivized to say its natural because if it becomes established that a pandemic that caused more death and economic destruction than a nuclear bomb was a result of mistakes in scientific research— science could lose all future funding. When was the last time a disease naturally evolved quickly enough in a year to jump into several new species and then be super successful in spreading within those species instantly? Nature generally doesn’t work that quickly.
Mutations occur in all viruses to different degrees. Most are point mutations in the genetic code, occur randomly and have little clinical significance. Only when the mutation improves viral fitness (ability to replicate) and virulence is it concerning.
Can we chill with the hyperbole? And both SARS and MERS had animal cross vectors. That even leaves out bird, swine flus, mad cow, etc. Nature has a way of ####### with humans in particular.
I don't watch much news type stuff on YouTube, but I'll see if I can find anything reputable that I can read about it, thanks
I don’t need to be told to chill by a dude that earlier was claiming that hippos would kill more people than covid. You haven’t been exactly right up to this point
Well, they're sort of right. A whole lot people who should have known better set their credibility on fire this summer because of politics.
