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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (7 Viewers)

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You, yourself said it's not dangerous so how is that bad for individuals. 

Yes, if I happen to need a hospital in the next month, I agree that would be bad. How often do you people goto the hospital? I haven't been to a hospital in 5 years. I'm not gonna sit here and worry about such a rare event in my life.
A whole lot of “just wow”.  But I do think this is a view into this mindset.  I have a relative that was like that and he’s, luckily, getting good care in the hospital right now on o2 with covid.

Does anyone ever plan or want to go in to the hospital?  “If I need to in the next month, that would be bad” is short-sighted.

 
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I don't believe this is accurate. Antigen tests can give false negatives because they are less sensitive than PCR tests, but false positives are very rare. Mostly only caused by doing the test incorrectly, or cross-contaminating samples when performing multiple tests.

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/JCM.00083-21
You're exactly right and thank you for the correction. I edited my post. Apparently my head and hand were arguing while I was typing that post.

 
A whole lot of “just wow”.  But I do think this is a view into this mindset.  I have a relative that was like that and he’s l, luckily, getting good care in the hospital right now on o2 with covid.

Does anyone ever plan or want to go in to the hospital?  “If I need to in the next month, that would be bad” is short-sighted.
I'm boosted. I'm not gonna need to go on O2 for covid

 
Changing subjects...

My wife's best friend's (who is unvaxxed) elderly parent in laws told her they won't watch the kids anymore because the kids are unvaxxed and the best friend got mad at THEM. 

Some people

 
Do you have links for this? I can’t find anywhere how many of the over 700 employees that were let go from the Mayo clinic yesterday actually provided health care.
I don't think Mayo Clinic released that information. I'm not sure they will. Their priority is hiring to fill the positions of the 700 who basically quit by refusing to follow Mayo's vaccination requirements which they've known about for awhile now.

Mayo has 73,000 employees.

 
There's a difference. I've addressed the problem by doing everything that has been asked of me. Worn a mask I'm public settings, gotten a booster, quarantined when exposed, etc
So......what exactly is your point with any of what you are saying??

Condensed version will suffice. 

 
Have they released why the 73% of the Chicago teacher union voted to stay home?

Because those people need to be exposed and ridiculed.

Poor kids, poor parents.  Soo bad.

 
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A whole lot of “just wow”.  But I do think this is a view into this mindset.  I have a relative that was like that and he’s, luckily, getting good care in the hospital right now on o2 with covid.

Does anyone ever plan or want to go in to the hospital?  “If I need to in the next month, that would be bad” is short-sighted.
 People keep talking to vaxxed and boosted people as though they are not vaxxed and boosted.

Why?  Because the world is only feeding you one talk track.

 
Have they released why the 73% of the Chicago teacher union voted to stay home?

Because those people need to be exposed and ridiculed.

Poor kids, poor parents.  Soo bad.
Why should they be ridiculed?  They want a safe work environment including weekly testing.   Sounds more than reasonable.

 
Bad for hospitals, not individuals 
The responses to this post are kind of weird.  I know @jobarules has a reputation in this thread and I've butted heads with him too, but he's not fundamentally wrong about this.  If you're vaccinated, you shouldn't be too terribly worried about getting omicron on a personal level.  This is nowhere near as threatening as any pre-vaccine variant, and it's not even as bad as delta, which wasn't especially threatening to vaccinated people either.

Yes, I know, multiply a super-contagious but usually mild illness times 300 million people and you have a legitimate public health problem on your hands.  And people who live with immunocompromised folks or elderly people or other vulnerable populations have additional factors to consider.  But this thread is going to get kind of toxic if folks have to write a little dissertation full of those qualifiers every time they want to make an anodyne observation that at this point is pretty well-supported by the data.

Omicron is causing real problems for health care providers, and it's also making it difficult for businesses to stay open just because of staff shortages.  Those are real problems!  Even if covid-19 had a 0% fatality risk, any disease that shuts down schools and places of business would be a problem for society.  But there's a lot of good news out there too, and conditions for your average person are leaps and bounds better than they were a year ago today, when we were all trying to dodge covid for a few more months before our vaccine numbers got called.  

 
What others have been saying

At the individual (micro level) covid for the fully vaxxed is not bad or a concern

At the macro level it is bad until the curve declines


Ummmmm, ok???  Most everyone is aware of this.  What exactly is your point with everything you are saying related these comments?

 
Question regarding getting the booster shot after a positive covid test.

I was scheduled to get my booster today, but my wife told me that with my positive test from last week, I needed to wait...so I bailed on the appointment.

How long after my positive do I need to wait to get the booster? Or do I need to get my info from a non-wife source moving forward (she's far more on top of all of this than I am)?

 
Question regarding getting the booster shot after a positive covid test.

I was scheduled to get my booster today, but my wife told me that with my positive test from last week, I needed to wait...so I bailed on the appointment.

How long after my positive do I need to wait to get the booster? Or do I need to get my info from a non-wife source moving forward (she's far more on top of all of this than I am)?


Once you are asymptomatic.  And have waited however many days the CDC is telling you is good enough.

 
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I keep seeing that 1,000,000 US cases in a day but worldometer is showing the high just over 600,000. Where is the million number coming from?

 
No you nailed it.  Not a concern anywhere for the kids or their parents.

The kids are much better off this way right?
Teachers should be forced to be exposed and to infect their families?   If the teachers get sick and die, does that help the kids learn?

 
So why does the US make up 1/5 of the world's covid cases?  More testing?  Better reporting?  More social interaction?

We've had 5x more cases today than China has had in two years.
I don’t trust numbers released by the Chinese government. Or pretty much anything released by them.

But our response has been terrible. The three factors you listed may all play a part in why our numbers are the way they are, in addition to a huge chunk of the population not taking the virus seriously.

 
Question regarding getting the booster shot after a positive covid test.

I was scheduled to get my booster today, but my wife told me that with my positive test from last week, I needed to wait...so I bailed on the appointment.

How long after my positive do I need to wait to get the booster? Or do I need to get my info from a non-wife source moving forward (she's far more on top of all of this than I am)?
This is an “ask your doctor” type thing. Or whatever @-fish- says. I have 5 employees in the same situation and they are asking me. That’s a problem!

 
States ranked by COVID hospitalization rates compared to2 weeks ago.

Louisiana
14-day change: 336% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 20

Florida
14-day change: 264% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 28

District of Columbia
14-day change: 258% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 97

Hawaii
14-day change: 208% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 13

Georgia
14-day change: 153% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 36

Mississippi
14-day change: 134% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 23

New Jersey
14-day change: 133% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 52

Alabama
14-day change: 117% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 23

New York State
14-day change: 110% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 50

South Carolina
14-day change: 108% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 23

Texas
14-day change: 94% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 25

Maryland
14-day change: 80% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 48

Connecticut
14-day change: 74% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 42

Virginia
14-day change: 74% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 30

California
14-day change: 73% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 17

Illinois
14-day change: 59% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 47

Tennessee
14-day change: 59% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 29

Massachusetts
14-day change: 50% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 28

North Carolina
14-day change: 49% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 29

Nevada
14-day change: 39% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 32

Washington
14-day change: 39% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 15

Rhode Island
14-day change: 33% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 34

Oklahoma
14-day change: 31% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 28

Missouri
14-day change: 29% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 43

Kentucky
14-day change: 28% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 37

Arkansas
14-day change: 23% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 24

Ohio
14-day change: 22% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 54

Pennsylvania
14-day change: 20% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 47

Delaware
14-day change: 15% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 45

Kansas
14-day change: 14% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 32

Vermont
14-day change: 14% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 11

Oregon
14-day change: 13% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 13

West Virginia
14-day change: 11% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 40

Wisconsin
14-day change: 6% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 33

Indiana
14-day change: 3% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 46

Montana
14-day change: 3% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 13

Colorado
14-day change: 2% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 21

South Dakota
14-day change: 1% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 28

Michigan
14-day change: 2% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 42

Utah
14-day change: 2% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 14

Idaho
14-day change: 3% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 15

Iowa
14-day change: 4% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 25

North Dakota
14-day change: 4% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 29

Arizona
14-day change: 6% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 33

Nebraska
14-day change: 6% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 28

Minnesota
14-day change: 9% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 26

Alaska
14-day change: 14% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 8

Maine
14-day change: 14% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 27

New Hampshire
14-day change: 15% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 28

New Mexico
14-day change: 17% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 26

Wyoming
14-day change: 31% decrease
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 11

 
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Why should they be ridiculed?  They want a safe work environment including weekly testing.   Sounds more than reasonable.
Teachers were rightly moved up toward the front of the line for vaccination.  Their work environment is safe.  They're fine.  And the kids they work with were never in any real danger from covid, and they're nearly all eligible for vaccination now.

Schools are not nursing homes or hospitals.  They're perfectly fine if we choose to let them be fine.

 
Question regarding getting the booster shot after a positive covid test.

I was scheduled to get my booster today, but my wife told me that with my positive test from last week, I needed to wait...so I bailed on the appointment.

How long after my positive do I need to wait to get the booster? Or do I need to get my info from a non-wife source moving forward (she's far more on top of all of this than I am)?
You can get it as soon as symptoms are gone.

 
Teachers should be forced to be exposed and to infect their families?   If the teachers get sick and die, does that help the kids learn?
Teachers were rightly moved toward the front of the line for vaccination.  How many fully-vaccinated teachers have gotten sick and died from being exposed to kids?

 
I keep seeing that 1,000,000 US cases in a day but worldometer is showing the high just over 600,000. Where is the million number coming from?
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/united-states
There is something weird with recent numbers on both Johns Hopkins and Worldometers. They're normally a little different from each other, but generally pretty close to one another day to day.

However, in recent days, Worldometers shows a much higher total case number versus Johns Hopkins: 58,751,759 for WM, 57,058,734 for JHU (though JHU calls it 'confirmed cases').

But then, in recent days, Worldometers shows far fewer cases per day on their "Daily New Cases in the United States" graph (scroll down for graph, click on rightmost bars). JHU showed over a million on Monday 1/3, while WM's graph shows 518 K for the same date. 

 
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My doctor said, "can't hurt, but if you want to wait 90 days, that's fine too."  His only recommendation (same as the ER doc yesterday with my daughter) was wait until you're fully recovered.


You can get it as soon as symptoms are gone.
Thanks guys.

The wrinkle is my cough-variant asthma, which has been triggered by this and likely won't be going away any time soon (lingering cough). But with the covid in my veins, I'll probably just wait the cough out.

 
How long after my positive do I need to wait to get the booster?
There's no longer specific guidance on this. Past two weeks, you'll be considered good by most vaccine providers (though you might run into someone that asks you to wait longer).

Ask 100 doctors, you'll get varying answers from 14 days past symptoms to 90 days.

 
There's no longer specific guidance on this. Past two weeks, you'll be considered good by most vaccine providers (though you might run into someone that asks you to wait longer).

Ask 100 doctors, you'll get varying answers from 14 days past symptoms to 90 days.
Its like how long to wait before calling my beautiful baby after getting her number.

 
Do the vaccines not exist in thus reality?
So now we're in favor of mandates?

So hard to keep up with all of the contrarian positions.  Also,  vaccines don't protect third parties.   It's a virus.  How hard is it for you to understand that people do not live in bubbles?  It affects families, friends, groups of people, workplaces, and even hospitals.   

 
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Teachers were rightly moved toward the front of the line for vaccination.  How many fully-vaccinated teachers have gotten sick and died from being exposed to kids?
How many of their parents or grandparents got sick?   

It's a highly contagious virus.  It doesn't exist in a vacuum. 
That's something a lot of people don't consider.

Does it really matter much if kids tend to fare all right with COVID? What about kids as COVID conduits to other people?

I think schools can be and have been conducted in person with reasonable safety, but I don't agree with the "kids don't get it" angle. So what if "kids don't get it"? They're links in a chain, strands in a web.

 
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