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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (16 Viewers)

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co-worker just went to Colorado for a ski trip vacation for a week.  Got back last night and tested today for going back to school -- whole family positive and symptomatic.  

 
Doug B said:
The vaccines (really, the boosters) still reduce breakthrough Omicron infections -- and all the other COVID related outcomes. It is true that for those vaccinated last spring and unboosted, their circulating antibodies have dropped low enough for a nascent Omicron infection to get a foothold. Memory B and T cells will still generally ward off severe illness, though.

Again ... "not preventing" doesn't mean "no mitigation is happening".
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a thread where we didn't have to explain the exact same things to the exact same people every ####### day?

 
1) Nice to see @(HULK) 🍻

2) Definitely a Masochist streak

Cheers from the pub. Blantons doubles with a Guinness Mack makes for a nice early afternoon.  Always wear a mask to the restroom. 👍🏼 😜

 
Had invite for 6th row Grizzlies tickets to watch Ja continue the streak. Had to pass. Fails the personal dynamic risk-assessment calculator by a couple points. 
 

Plus the T-Wolves suck. If I declined Fakers ticks to see LeTron flop earlier this year I had to decline these right? 

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
This thread is the equivalent of Prometheus being chained to a rock and having an eagle eat his liver every day for eternity.
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I'm a fan, but to be fair; Pot:Kettle.

 
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New study linking Epstein-Barre to developing MS later in life.  Maybe something to think about for the "gee, it's inconvenient to test or to have my kid miss a day of day care" folks.  Perhaps there's a reason to avoid spreading a novel virus to the extent that we can...

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Wouldn't it be nice to have a thread where we didn't have to explain the exact same things to the exact same people every ####### day?
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Andy Dufresne said:
This thread is the equivalent of Prometheus being chained to a rock and having an eagle eat his liver every day for eternity.
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Every once in a while I click to see if there's an important update.  Instead it's the same couple of posters trolling every day. 

Because, you know,  it hilarious the hundreds of thousand of Americans and millions of people worldwide that have died from this. 

 
the rover said:
ignoring 3-4 people makes this thread so much better.
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Until people keep quoting them. Pages today with very little substance.

Statistics are hard enough for most. Medical statistics are that much more complicated and requires an understanding of what the numbers are even saying. On top of that, public health is a completely different ballgame. It reconciles the micro with the macro. 

There are literally degrees in public health that take significant time to understand and complete yet we still have people questioning the recommendations about testing and tracing and isolating when the true understanding of the reasoning behind these recommendations is not achieved. 

But, give someone a google search engine and access to some of the data (note, not all), and we have a collection of epidemiologists here that believe they have the right answers how to move forward. 

We get people railing against "Lord Fauci" and the CDC, and while none are without faults, they are still easily the best we have and who we should be taking our cues from.

I've mentioned it before, but some perfect displays of Dunning-Kruger in here.

 
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I still cannot figure out what is worse, those questioning/requestioning everything ... or those who feel the need to respond to them. I feel like déjà but with my sons when they were younger ...

Son 1: Jerkface

Son 2: know you are but what am 

That would go on for what seemed like hours (3 minutes) until Mrs. Punk would lose her mind and we all scattered. My sons are now grown men who have better things to do with their time and know better ... maybe we can learn something from them?

 
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Atomic Punk said:
I still cannot figure out what is worse, those questioning/requestioning everything ... or those who feel the need to respond to them. I feel like déjà but with my sons when they were younger ...

Son 1: Jerkface

Son 2: know you are but what am 

That would go on for what seemed like hours (3 minutes) until Mrs. Punk would lose her mind and we all scattered. My sons are now grown men who have better things to do with their time and know better ... maybe we can learn something from them?
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I'm pretty sure the people who complain about the questioners and the responders and continuing to tell everyone to put people on ignore are the worst. Soft like Charmin. Let people post and respond to what they want and ignore them if you don't wanna engage. Stop telling everyone else what to do.

 
the rover said:
ignoring 3-4 people makes this thread so much better.
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I'd really like people to stop replying to the folks who are obviously are trolling. The signal to noise ratio is WAY down. You can generally tell the trolls when they have multiple responses all in a row. It isn't a perfect test, but it is darn close. 

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Wouldn't it be nice to have a thread where we didn't have to explain the exact same things to the exact same people every ####### day?
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None of us have to engage those that show a lack of ability and/or willingness to properly absorb information that varies from their bias.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
co-worker just went to Colorado for a ski trip vacation for a week.  Got back last night and tested today for going back to school -- whole family positive and symptomatic.  
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I get the feeling going anywhere outside of your immediate travel circle (work, home, grocery) pretty much guarantee's you're at least exposing yourself to the 'cron. Not saying people should stop living their lives but we've intentionally limited our comings & goings for a while until this settles down. Had a trade show scheduled for Vegas at the end of the month I bowed out of. Not sure why it's still going on but regardless, seems like asking for it so decided to bail.

Just be smart and considerate. It ain't hard.

 
beer 30 said:
I get the feeling going anywhere outside of your immediate travel circle (work, home, grocery) pretty much guarantee's you're at least exposing yourself to the 'cron. Not saying people should stop living their lives but we've intentionally limited our comings & goings for a while until this settles down. Had a trade show scheduled for Vegas at the end of the month I bowed out of. Not sure why it's still going on but regardless, seems like asking for it so decided to bail.

Just be smart and considerate. It ain't hard.
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I did the same.  Skipping a conference of several thousand people, where you have like 20 meetings per day and then a separate meeting later in the week that would be like 20+ people all in a conference room and doing meals and drinks over two days right after.  100% chance of exposure.  

 
beer 30 said:
I get the feeling going anywhere outside of your immediate travel circle (work, home, grocery) pretty much guarantee's you're at least exposing yourself to the 'cron. Not saying people should stop living their lives but we've intentionally limited our comings & goings for a while until this settles down. Had a trade show scheduled for Vegas at the end of the month I bowed out of. Not sure why it's still going on but regardless, seems like asking for it so decided to bail.

Just be smart and considerate. It ain't hard.
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I'm trying to do something similar for the next few weeks too.  Not a self-imposed lockdown by any means, but just avoiding the worst of the worst.  For example, earlier this week we had a cattle-call type meeting involving about 100 or so people.  The topic was how to write good job ads with a special eye toward satisfying international visa requirements.  Do I really want sit there shoulder-to-shoulder with a bunch of people who are (at best) wearing the same ridiculous university-branded cloth masks that they were all issued two years ago?  Or would I rather sit in my office and keep cycling stuff off my to-do list?  Easy call.

(FWIW, I've sat through the same presentation on international hiring at least 3-4 times.  My takeaway is always "consult with the lady who handles this stuff in our international office because there ain't no way I'm remember all this stuff the next time I recruit somebody a year from now."  Not sure why that presentation requires constant updating.)

 
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Oh and our office building did a hard shutdown last Tuesday. I was already self quarantining so wasn't there but around lunch time they told everyone to head home until further notice. Handed everyone a test and said they would need to show a negative test to come back when the office reopens.

 
I had a bit of a sore throat two days ago but it was gone in a day.  No other symptoms.  No at home tests available anywhere.  I ordered some on Amazon a week ago that should arrive in a week or two.

I was kind of hoping I had it as I think everyone will end up getting it at some point and I want to get it over with.

 
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Gilroy34 said:
I had a bit of a sore throat two days ago but it was gome in a day.  No other syptoms.  No at home tests available anywhere.  I ordered some on Amazon a week ago that should arrive in a week or two.

I was kind of hoping I had it as I think everyone will end up getting it at some point and I want to get it over with.
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Anyone around you test positive especially in your household or proximate social bubble?
 

 
Redwes25 said:
Where are you located?  I had understood most of the country was still Delta around Christmas.  NYC, DC and a few otherplaces it was mostly Omicron.  
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Montgomery County, MD. We are DC's northern border, and as such, one of the early Omicron areas.

 
gianmarco said:
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Until people keep quoting them. Pages today with very little substance.

Statistics are hard enough for most. Medical statistics are that much more complicated and requires an understanding of what the numbers are even saying. On top of that, public health is a completely different ballgame. It reconciles the micro with the macro. 

There are literally degrees in public health that take significant time to understand and complete yet we still have people questioning the recommendations about testing and tracing and isolating when the true understanding of the reasoning behind these recommendations is not achieved. 

But, give someone a google search engine and access to some of the data (note, not all), and we have a collection of epidemiologists here that believe they have the right answers how to move forward. 

We get people railing against "Lord Fauci" and the CDC, and while none are without faults, they are still easily the best we have and who we should be taking our cues from.

I've mentioned it before, but some perfect displays of Dunning-Kruger in here.
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The most perfect form of Dunning-Kruger is when you see someone talk about Dunning-Kruger while using the famous "Mount Stupid" chart (which isn't an actual distribution of said effect). That is top tier irony.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
My vaxxed but not boosted friend whose whole family is positive from their vacation said last night was "the worst night of [his] life"
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I've seen/heard this too many times to give credence to the 'just a cold' crowd. It's definitely variable for people. Some get a nothingburger illness, and some have it terrible, some are hospitalized, and some die.

I haven't had it and want to never get it, or at least delay getting it as long as possible.

 
Omicron coronavirus variant is “inherently milder” among children under 5, with infection leading to “significantly less severe outcomes” This is important because this group remains unvaxxed.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.12.22269179v1.full.pdf

The study also showed about 70% reduction in hospitalizations, intensive care unit admissions and mechanical ventilation among children infected with Omicron compared with those infected with Delta. They also found a 29% reduction in visits to the emergency room. Data on deaths was not included, as there were so few reported.  

About 1% of children infected with Omicron were hospitalized, compared with about 3% of children with Delta. 
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Just found out that my brother, who is chief operating officer at a major city Children's Hospital, will be doing some shift work at the Hospital over the weekend and at night over the next week because the Hospital has so many staff out due to close contact or testing positive. So please consider this when you are saying that Omicron is not that bad. If you do get Covid, react badly to it, and have to go to the hospital, you may not get the best care due to staffing issues. Something to consider.

 
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belljr said:
I figure we are 1-2 weeks ahead of most places
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I think it is pretty mild relatively speaking though. Hospitals are still getting nailed but a lot these cases are young healthy people are have cold like symptoms at the worst. We are even reducing are guidelines for schools here. It was 7 days you had to be out, now it is 5 days as long as you don't have a fever and symptoms have improved. 

 
So the one twin 5yo recovered nicely after testing + on an at home test Friday.  Fever was gone by Monday morning and is back at school. No one else in our house has shown symptoms except....

No my 15yo vaxxed daughter has a stuffy nose, "scratchy" throat,  no fever. We kept her out of school today and made her stay in her room because she said 2 people she eats lunch with tested positive 

I email the s hool to let them know we kept her home, abundance of caution since she was close to the 2 positives yada Yada Yada and guess what? The school doesn't know about any positives from her class.  Apparently they all snap chat and tell each other but no one is telling the school so they don't have to sit out for x days or whatever.  1 is a teachers kid even.  

I had 18 of 37 boys at soccer practice last night.  Cancelled today and Monday.  The girls team had 11 show up.  Looks like the whole school will have it shortly.

Oh and even better, there is a teacher that has convinced some kids that once you have it once you can't get it again.  We are screwed.

 
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