Scoresman
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Haha yeah they’re overreacting. I was picturing dozens of people.
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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (11 Viewers)
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Haha yeah they’re overreacting. I was picturing dozens of people.
3C's
Footballguy
My wife and about all of her immediate family caught/spread it around recently so I finally ordered some. Should be here today. Somehow I escaped it even though I was in the same room with all of them for a few hours right before everyone started showing symptoms, and with my wife in the car for an hour that day, and again 2 days later. Had a booster 2 months ago. Maybe vaccines work?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Turns out the MIL gave us like 10 kits no s out so NBD. But…yeah.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
People like this deserve to get Covid.
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Footballguy
No ****? Like every other illness.
Don't bother with the mask though... doesn't do much. Especially if you are dumb enough not to stay home - I have to assume you also don't know/care if your mask fits. Probably more of a signal/posture than what you believe is an effort to keep anyone safe.
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Footballguy
Don't know if this has been addressed or not - but yea, chronic respiratory issues are not new or unique to covid.
eta - allergies... allergies can do this. Let me know when they come out with the way to stop this, I'll be interested.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Last call for free tests coming up:
September 2, 2022: Free COVID-19 Test Program Will Be Suspended
This order for free at-home COVID-19 tests program will be suspended on Friday, September 2, 2022.
Learn more at COVID.gov/tests.
September 2, 2022: Free COVID-19 Test Program Will Be Suspended
This order for free at-home COVID-19 tests program will be suspended on Friday, September 2, 2022.
Learn more at COVID.gov/tests.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Free test and free vaccines are going away. Hopefully no new crazy variant this winter and this is able to just he handled seasonally with an annual or bi-annual vaccine.
Doug B
Footballguy
WAY too early to spike the football, but: Confirmed case counts dropped below 100k on August 17th and have stayed there every since. Even with number adjustments to come, it's clear that detected case counts have been dropping for some time now.
The death count numbers are more volatile, but even there it's almost 100% certain that the death counts peaked on August 5th (right now at 499) and have been gradually declining ever since.
COVID hospitalizations and ICU admissions have been dropping since the end of July, as well. Slowly to be sure, but moving in the right direction.
Osaurus
Footballguy
I maxed out the test kit limit.
belljr
Footballguy
Been declining here for a while - its really why I don't check in much - since we are always "ahead" of every one.
Even if you could ignore the ~75 million Americans over 60 (spoiler, you can't), the metrics for those under 60 are still far, far worse for covid than they are for the common cold. It's absurd to equate them.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
We sent the kids with masks to school today. We told them to wear them, but in a manner more laxed than last year. They are off for lunch and snack anyway, and I am not sure how well fitting they really are with kids and with literally only 1 other kid in each of their classes also wearing a mask, it may not really matter.
I will mask in most public settings and on public transportation, but probably not in the office for meetings etc. I wore one at the kindergarten open house last week, and was the only person in the class and 1 of 2 in the whole school that I saw masked.
I will mask in most public settings and on public transportation, but probably not in the office for meetings etc. I wore one at the kindergarten open house last week, and was the only person in the class and 1 of 2 in the whole school that I saw masked.
Big League Chew
Footballguy
They’re still making us wear masks at work. Pretty lame
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
is this just a regular office situation? Or something like a hopsital where it might make sense?
Big League Chew
Footballguy
Regular lame-o office. They base it off the town we’re in. If it’s ‘high’ Covid then we are required to mask.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Yea thats odd. Its pretty rare i see that nowadays. I generally wear a mask when i visit clients but its rare they tell us its required.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So FDA approved the bivalent vaccine from both companies. Any chance I can get the shot prior to my 9/14 trip to NYC which will have various meetings and meals?
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Still haven't had Covid, but given that I got my second booster in July I'm not rushing out to get the new bivalent vaccine, especially not with case counts relatively low. I suppose my blood clots put me at slightly elevated risk, but I'm on blood thinners so not really. I'll talk to my doctor at my next appointment and see what he says
You think that's bad... my wife's office requires unvaxxed to get tested AND wear a mask and vaxxed don't have to get tested or wear a mask.
Big League Chew
Footballguy
Who’s paying for the test
The city for now
worrierking
Footballguy
Interesting look at how different countries fared in the pandemic here:
maximumtruth.substack.com
DEEP DIVE: The Covid "Fudge Factor"
A map of Covid data corruption -- and the Covid approach that worked!
maximumtruth.substack.com
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I talked to my doctor and all I got was “if it’s been 6 months since your last one you can get one if you want”. Thanks doc
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Like I've been saying, it's ultimately a pretty low-stakes decision, so I'm not surprised your doctor isn't being all that definitive.
I talked to my doctor and all I got was “if it’s been 6 months since your last one you can get one if you want”. Thanks doc
In a scenario where we had high uptake of the bivalent vaccines, I'd be curious to see if it had a real impact in lowering the infection rate. But given that's extremely unlikely to happen, it's ultimately a moo point
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So they approved both Pfizer (30mg) and Moderna (larger). I have had two Moderna shot so far, and have not tested positive for COVID, despite my household having it at once. I have been basically useless for 24-48 hours after each vaccine shot though. Should I go Pfizer to switch it up and maybe not be as sick after the shot, or stick with Moderna because it seems to have been working for me? Or who cares?
Scoresman
Footballguy
Looks like for the Omicron booster, the 4 month between shots rule has been lowered to 2 months between shots. Anyone know if this is another case of the government being stupid and ignoring the science?
I know that studies have shown that the 4 month rule is there because shots are less effective if you don't wait that long.
I know that studies have shown that the 4 month rule is there because shots are less effective if you don't wait that long.
Big League Chew
Footballguy
I caught the vid back in July. Was down for 24 hours. ¯\_(シ)_/¯
Big League Chew
Footballguy
Dude at work keeps claiming he tests positive. Been almost 6 times in 3 months. He just wants that telework
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
i havent really had much if any side effects that i recall with my 3rd and 4th boosters. YMMV.
Doug B
Footballguy
It really doesn't matter. Reactions are chaotic -- what happens to other people has no bearing on what will happen to you. You'll likely be out of service for that same day or two.
Moderna's bivalent dose will be larger than Pfizer's (50 mcg vs 30 mcg), but not as large of a difference as the original two-shot sequence (100 mcg vs 30 mcg).
Doug B
Footballguy
(NOTE: Recent figures in the Worldometers graphs get large adjustments as much as two weeks after they first drop. Accordingly, I've waited ten days to let the last-week Monday (August 22nd) numbers settle in. They will likely rise a bit more by next week's update, but it should only be by a small amount.)
Updating numbers to see where things have been standing recently from a top-of-the-mountain view. All figures below are 7-day averages from Worldometers U.S. graphs here. In the United States:
CASES ON THU 09/01/2022
Thu 01/13/2022 - 825,929 <--OMICRON SURGE 2022 HIGH
Tue 02/01/2022 - 425,029
Thu 02/17/2022 - 116,616
Mon 02/28/2022 - 62,205
Mon 03/14/2022 - 32,900
Sat 04/02/2022 - 27,309 <--2022 LOW
Mon 04/18/2022 - 40,892
Mon 05/02/2022 - 63,279
Mon 05/09/2022 - 81,594
Mon 05/16/2022 - 100,359
Mon 05/23/2022 - 110,986
Mon 05/30/2022 - 110,505
Mon 06/06/2022 - 107,061
Mon 06/13/2022 - 107,805
Tue 06/21/2022 - 100,101
Mon 06/27/2022 - 113,329
Mon 07/04/2022 - 115,444
Mon 07/11/2022 - 120,729
Mon 07/18/2022 - 132,496
Sat 07/23/2022 - 133,029 <-- SPRING/SUMMER SURGE HIGH
Mon 07/25/2022 - 132,140
Mon 08/01/2022 - 125,102
Mon 08/08/2022 - 111,853
Mon 08/15/2022 - 102,485
Mon 08/22/2022 - 93,857 (85,125 on 8/25/2022)
Sun 08/28/2022 - 83,657 <--provisional count
Tue 08/30/2022 - 77,809 <--provisional count
DEATHS ON THU 09/01/2022
Sun 01/29/2022 - 2,777 <--OMICRON SURGE 2022 HIGH
Fri 02/18/2022 - 2,190
Mon 02/28/2022 - 1,740
Mon 03/14/2022 - 1,105
Mon 03/28/2022 - 623
Mon 04/11/2022 - 487
Mon 05/02/2022 - 338
Mon 05/09/2022 - 298
Sat 05/14/2022 - 285 <--2022 LOW
Mon 05/16/2022 - 289
Mon 05/23/2022 - 324
Mon 06/06/2022 - 341
Mon 06/13/2022 - 365
Mon 06/20/2022 - 318
Mon 06/27/2022 - 354
Mon 07/04/2022 - 369
Mon 07/11/2022 - 396
Mon 07/18/2022 - 422
Mon 07/25/2022 - 444
Mon 08/01/2022 - 452
Mon 08/08/2022 - 497
Thu 08/11/2022 - 503 <--SPRING/SUMMER SURGE HIGH
Mon 08/15/2022 - 481 (449 on Thu 08/25/2022)
Tue 08/23/2022 - 441 <--provisional count
Mon 08/29/2022 - 349 <--provisional count
CASES: 7-day average of confirmed COVID cases in the U.S. peaked at 825,929 on 1/13/2022, and was provisionally 93,857 on 8/22/2022. Starting from a peak on July 23, 2022, the 7-day case numbers has continued to decline for over a month now.
DEATHS: 7-day average of confirmed COVID cases in the U.S. peaked at 2,756 on 1/29/2022, and was provisionally 441 on 8/23/2022. The 7-day average deaths on 8/11/2022 is the new spring/summer high, now adjusted to 503. Some large adjustments have been made in recent days to the August 8-11 numbers so while a decline in deaths still shows in the data, the rate of decline is very gradual at present.
For comparison: Low-water marks in the U.S. from summer 2021, 7-day averages after the initial thrust of vaccinations and before summer 2021's Delta surge.
CASES: 12,265 on 6/21/2021
DEATHS: 245 on 7/8/2021
Updating numbers to see where things have been standing recently from a top-of-the-mountain view. All figures below are 7-day averages from Worldometers U.S. graphs here. In the United States:
CASES ON THU 09/01/2022
Thu 01/13/2022 - 825,929 <--OMICRON SURGE 2022 HIGH
Tue 02/01/2022 - 425,029
Thu 02/17/2022 - 116,616
Mon 02/28/2022 - 62,205
Mon 03/14/2022 - 32,900
Sat 04/02/2022 - 27,309 <--2022 LOW
Mon 04/18/2022 - 40,892
Mon 05/02/2022 - 63,279
Mon 05/09/2022 - 81,594
Mon 05/16/2022 - 100,359
Mon 05/23/2022 - 110,986
Mon 05/30/2022 - 110,505
Mon 06/06/2022 - 107,061
Mon 06/13/2022 - 107,805
Tue 06/21/2022 - 100,101
Mon 06/27/2022 - 113,329
Mon 07/04/2022 - 115,444
Mon 07/11/2022 - 120,729
Mon 07/18/2022 - 132,496
Sat 07/23/2022 - 133,029 <-- SPRING/SUMMER SURGE HIGH
Mon 07/25/2022 - 132,140
Mon 08/01/2022 - 125,102
Mon 08/08/2022 - 111,853
Mon 08/15/2022 - 102,485
Mon 08/22/2022 - 93,857 (85,125 on 8/25/2022)
Sun 08/28/2022 - 83,657 <--provisional count
Tue 08/30/2022 - 77,809 <--provisional count
DEATHS ON THU 09/01/2022
Sun 01/29/2022 - 2,777 <--OMICRON SURGE 2022 HIGH
Fri 02/18/2022 - 2,190
Mon 02/28/2022 - 1,740
Mon 03/14/2022 - 1,105
Mon 03/28/2022 - 623
Mon 04/11/2022 - 487
Mon 05/02/2022 - 338
Mon 05/09/2022 - 298
Sat 05/14/2022 - 285 <--2022 LOW
Mon 05/16/2022 - 289
Mon 05/23/2022 - 324
Mon 06/06/2022 - 341
Mon 06/13/2022 - 365
Mon 06/20/2022 - 318
Mon 06/27/2022 - 354
Mon 07/04/2022 - 369
Mon 07/11/2022 - 396
Mon 07/18/2022 - 422
Mon 07/25/2022 - 444
Mon 08/01/2022 - 452
Mon 08/08/2022 - 497
Thu 08/11/2022 - 503 <--SPRING/SUMMER SURGE HIGH
Mon 08/15/2022 - 481 (449 on Thu 08/25/2022)
Tue 08/23/2022 - 441 <--provisional count
Mon 08/29/2022 - 349 <--provisional count
CASES: 7-day average of confirmed COVID cases in the U.S. peaked at 825,929 on 1/13/2022, and was provisionally 93,857 on 8/22/2022. Starting from a peak on July 23, 2022, the 7-day case numbers has continued to decline for over a month now.
DEATHS: 7-day average of confirmed COVID cases in the U.S. peaked at 2,756 on 1/29/2022, and was provisionally 441 on 8/23/2022. The 7-day average deaths on 8/11/2022 is the new spring/summer high, now adjusted to 503. Some large adjustments have been made in recent days to the August 8-11 numbers so while a decline in deaths still shows in the data, the rate of decline is very gradual at present.
For comparison: Low-water marks in the U.S. from summer 2021, 7-day averages after the initial thrust of vaccinations and before summer 2021's Delta surge.
CASES: 12,265 on 6/21/2021
DEATHS: 245 on 7/8/2021
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I thought this was a helpful article:
A Simple Rule for Planning Your Booster Shot
TLDR:
A Simple Rule for Planning Your Booster Shot
TLDR:
- If you're high-risk, get a shot right away
- If you've never had Omicron and are six months out from your last shot, get a shot
- If you have had Omicron, you can probably wait. Also depends on whether you're mostly interested in preventing serious illness or avoiding getting infected altogether
- If you want to wait it out a few months, probably not a big deal
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Update?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
CDC approved boosters. Not sure when you can start booking.
Battersbox
Footballguy
The Pandemic Erased Two Decades of Progress in Math and Reading
The results of a national test showed just how devastating the last two years have been for 9-year-old schoolchildren, especially the most vulnerable.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I've never gotten covid. No intention of getting any more boosters.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
YLE:
yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com
Considerations for your fall booster
This fall, everyone should get a bivalent COVID-19 booster.
yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Like I've been saying, it's ultimately a pretty low-stakes decision, so I'm not surprised your doctor isn't being all that definitive.
I talked to my doctor and all I got was “if it’s been 6 months since your last one you can get one if you want”. Thanks doc
YLE:
Considerations for your fall booster
This fall, everyone should get a bivalent COVID-19 booster.
@ignatiusjreilly - even something halfway as good and concise as this article by YLE would be helpful. His advice was essentially worthless. Hell, even saying "I don't know, please consult someone else" would be better than what he told me. I don't expect my GP to know everything but I do expect after 2 years for him to have a more definitive answer.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
And I know you just said you aren't surprised and ultimately I'm not either. Just annoyed.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Fall Boosters ACIP Meeting: Cliff notes
Today ACIP— the external advisory committee to the CDC— met to discuss the bivalent fall boosters in the United States. This committee’s main purpose is to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of vaccines as well as policy recommendations for dissemination (who should get one and when).
yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com
Doug B
Footballguy
Brutal honesty: Just collecting Internet anecdotes over the past 2+ years ... but it's apparent that too many doctors, nurse practitioners, and nurses know little about COVID in general and COVID vaccinations in particular. If personally invested in learning more and staying on top of COVID, medical training can be invaluable in parsing dense, not-for-laymen information. The flip side, though: If you're a medical provider and you decided early on that COVID was overblown ... that stance tends to get baked in and you'll err on the side of fewer vaccinations (i.e. dissuade patients from boosters) and fewer non-pharmaceutical interventions.
Corollary: It's very easy -- if you care to -- to find a doctor who'll pretty much tell you what you want to hear about COVID. Not saying that anyone here doctor-shopped to specifically find cavalier-about-COVID doctors. Just saying that it's not remarkable that many healthcare providers have turned out to not be particularly gung-ho about addressing COVID.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Anyone able to schedule the updated booster yet?
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Encouraged my parents to get it ASAP, my mother called Sam's Club, they said they were expecting to receive the vaccines in the next few days. Weren't making appts (yet).
ETA - then got into a discussion with my father about how mRNA vaccines do not alter your DNA. :smh:
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Doug B
Footballguy
In the past, whenever a vaccine was first available locally, there was always some lag time after the EUA was handed down. I'm sure there's some delivery & logistics that have to be spun up before the new vaccines make it to our drugstores.
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One silver lining about living in a red area: I likely won't need to make an appointment to get the bivalent booster. It will likely be a walk-up service at one of our independent non-chain drugstores.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
The articles I was reading had said the product was already shipping and could be available as early as today, so I was hopeful to get it this weekend and feel good enough to go into the office Tuesday. Rite Aid site says "Updated COVID-19 boosters coming soon (boosters for 12+ currently unavailable per FDA/CDC guidance)."
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
When i had covid and spoke to a doctor when i rebounded, the doctor told me that though i was symptomatic, if i didnt have a fever i was fine to go out maskless because "you cant be contagious if you dont have a fever". I asked even if im testing positive on an antigen test? And they said that i would test positive on an antigen for 90 days. I said, are you sure you dont mean PCR and the doctor said, no both i will test positive on for 90 days. So if i dont have a fever i am good to go. This was when i was in the thick of my covid symptoms. But really im not surprised by the ignorance of general covid information.
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